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calvin
Dec 16, 2012, 11:31:06 AM12/16/12
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The review of 'Savages' in ramc-f reminded me that
'All Fall Down' (1962), which features the Sibelius
2nd Symphony in addition to Alex North's score,
is a movie that I could never find on DVD and
Netflix doesn't have. But now I see that there is
a DVD released in 2009 and available at amazon.
But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
description' says: "This product is manufactured
on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
this practice news to anyone else?
Why this movie should be harder to see than others
is a mystery. It is directed by John Frankenheimer,
from the book by James Leo Herlihy, screenplay by
William Inge, and has a starry cast: Warren Beatty,
Eva Marie Saint, Karl Malden, Angela Lansbury, and
Brandon De Wilde.
'All Fall Down' (1962), which features the Sibelius
2nd Symphony in addition to Alex North's score,
is a movie that I could never find on DVD and
Netflix doesn't have. But now I see that there is
a DVD released in 2009 and available at amazon.
But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
description' says: "This product is manufactured
on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
this practice news to anyone else?
Why this movie should be harder to see than others
is a mystery. It is directed by John Frankenheimer,
from the book by James Leo Herlihy, screenplay by
William Inge, and has a starry cast: Warren Beatty,
Eva Marie Saint, Karl Malden, Angela Lansbury, and
Brandon De Wilde.
Invid Fan
Dec 16, 2012, 2:06:10 PM12/16/12
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In article
<20ef576f-1959-46c7...@b11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
the only way to get seasons 4-7 of Night Court.
> Why this movie should be harder to see than others
> is a mystery. It is directed by John Frankenheimer,
> from the book by James Leo Herlihy, screenplay by
> William Inge, and has a starry cast: Warren Beatty,
> Eva Marie Saint, Karl Malden, Angela Lansbury, and
> Brandon De Wilde.
Most likely, movies the studio felt had a similar audience didn't sell
on DVD, so rather than just let it be out of print they're doing this.
I consider it a good thing, given the alternative is to let films be
out of print.
--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'
<20ef576f-1959-46c7...@b11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
> description' says: "This product is manufactured
> on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
> this practice news to anyone else?
>
WB, I believe, has a while list of films available this way, and it's
> But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
> description' says: "This product is manufactured
> on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
> this practice news to anyone else?
>
the only way to get seasons 4-7 of Night Court.
> Why this movie should be harder to see than others
> is a mystery. It is directed by John Frankenheimer,
> from the book by James Leo Herlihy, screenplay by
> William Inge, and has a starry cast: Warren Beatty,
> Eva Marie Saint, Karl Malden, Angela Lansbury, and
> Brandon De Wilde.
on DVD, so rather than just let it be out of print they're doing this.
I consider it a good thing, given the alternative is to let films be
out of print.
--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'
hislop
Dec 16, 2012, 8:34:19 PM12/16/12
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On 17/12/2012 6:06 AM, Invid Fan wrote:
> In article
> <20ef576f-1959-46c7...@b11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> calvin<cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
>> description' says: "This product is manufactured
>> on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
>> this practice news to anyone else?
>>
> WB, I believe, has a while list of films available this way, and it's
> the only way to get seasons 4-7 of Night Court.
>
>> Why this movie should be harder to see than others
>> is a mystery. It is directed by John Frankenheimer,
>> from the book by James Leo Herlihy, screenplay by
>> William Inge, and has a starry cast: Warren Beatty,
>> Eva Marie Saint, Karl Malden, Angela Lansbury, and
>> Brandon De Wilde.
>
> Most likely, movies the studio felt had a similar audience didn't sell
> on DVD, so rather than just let it be out of print they're doing this.
> I consider it a good thing, given the alternative is to let films be
> out of print.
>
Perhaps the DVD quality could be higher on some though.
> In article
> <20ef576f-1959-46c7...@b11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> calvin<cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
>> description' says: "This product is manufactured
>> on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
>> this practice news to anyone else?
>>
> WB, I believe, has a while list of films available this way, and it's
> the only way to get seasons 4-7 of Night Court.
>
>> Why this movie should be harder to see than others
>> is a mystery. It is directed by John Frankenheimer,
>> from the book by James Leo Herlihy, screenplay by
>> William Inge, and has a starry cast: Warren Beatty,
>> Eva Marie Saint, Karl Malden, Angela Lansbury, and
>> Brandon De Wilde.
>
> Most likely, movies the studio felt had a similar audience didn't sell
> on DVD, so rather than just let it be out of print they're doing this.
> I consider it a good thing, given the alternative is to let films be
> out of print.
>
I've got a Columbia movie (Sony pictures) on DVD-R, The Love-Ins (1967)
with a total size of less than 3 gb, the picture quality is good enough
but could have been better.
The prints usually look quite good though, probably because no one has
touched them for years.
RichA
Dec 17, 2012, 3:25:15 AM12/17/12
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On Dec 16, 2:06 pm, Invid Fan <in...@loclanet.com> wrote:
> In article
> <20ef576f-1959-46c7-a3bb-29fca0a7c...@b11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
This is roughly the ratio of movies on various formats:
Film:
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VHS:
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DVD:
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Blu-Ray:
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See a pattern?
> In article
> <20ef576f-1959-46c7-a3bb-29fca0a7c...@b11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Film:
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VHS:
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DVD:
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Blu-Ray:
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See a pattern?
nick
Dec 17, 2012, 8:11:46 AM12/17/12
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On Dec 16, 11:31 am, calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> The review of 'Savages' in ramc-f reminded me that
> 'All Fall Down' (1962), which features the Sibelius
> 2nd Symphony in addition to Alex North's score,
> is a movie that I could never find on DVD and
> Netflix doesn't have. But now I see that there is
> a DVD released in 2009 and available at amazon.
>
> But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
> description' says: "This product is manufactured
> on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
> this practice news to anyone else?
>
Coincidentally, a CD my mother wanted for Christmas was available on
> The review of 'Savages' in ramc-f reminded me that
> 'All Fall Down' (1962), which features the Sibelius
> 2nd Symphony in addition to Alex North's score,
> is a movie that I could never find on DVD and
> Netflix doesn't have. But now I see that there is
> a DVD released in 2009 and available at amazon.
>
> But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
> description' says: "This product is manufactured
> on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
> this practice news to anyone else?
>
Amazon but only as a CD-R, "manufactured on demand". I thought, no
matter how good the quality, a manufactured CD-R isn't very Christmas
gift-y and passed on it. First I've heard of Amazon doing it. I
know some of the film studios do it. When the remake of Don't Be
Afraid of the Dark was released some time back, there was some
complaining that the classic original TV movie was only available on
DVD-R.
Bill Anderson
Dec 17, 2012, 8:51:31 AM12/17/12
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nick
Dec 17, 2012, 9:05:32 AM12/17/12
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labor of burning the disc. That little bit of saved effort might turn
out to be the thing that saves him from heat stroke in the warehouse
and a trip to the hospital in one of those ambulances Amazon has on
call at all times.
Bill Anderson
Dec 17, 2012, 9:36:11 AM12/17/12
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<sniffle> cares for strangers.
hislop
Dec 17, 2012, 9:47:14 AM12/17/12
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Surely more on DVD than VHS.
hislop
Dec 17, 2012, 9:52:10 AM12/17/12
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On 17/12/2012 6:06 AM, Invid Fan wrote:
> In article
> <20ef576f-1959-46c7...@b11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> calvin<cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
>> description' says: "This product is manufactured
>> on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
>> this practice news to anyone else?
>>
> WB, I believe, has a while list of films available this way, and it's
> the only way to get seasons 4-7 of Night Court.
>
>> Why this movie should be harder to see than others
>> is a mystery. It is directed by John Frankenheimer,
>> from the book by James Leo Herlihy, screenplay by
>> William Inge, and has a starry cast: Warren Beatty,
>> Eva Marie Saint, Karl Malden, Angela Lansbury, and
>> Brandon De Wilde.
>
> Most likely, movies the studio felt had a similar audience didn't sell
> on DVD, so rather than just let it be out of print they're doing this.
> I consider it a good thing, given the alternative is to let films be
> out of print.
>
I doubt they tried to sell much of them before on DVD.
> <20ef576f-1959-46c7...@b11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> calvin<cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> But here's the odd thing. The amazon 'product
>> description' says: "This product is manufactured
>> on demand using DVD-R recordable media." Is
>> this practice news to anyone else?
>>
> WB, I believe, has a while list of films available this way, and it's
> the only way to get seasons 4-7 of Night Court.
>
>> Why this movie should be harder to see than others
>> is a mystery. It is directed by John Frankenheimer,
>> from the book by James Leo Herlihy, screenplay by
>> William Inge, and has a starry cast: Warren Beatty,
>> Eva Marie Saint, Karl Malden, Angela Lansbury, and
>> Brandon De Wilde.
>
> Most likely, movies the studio felt had a similar audience didn't sell
> on DVD, so rather than just let it be out of print they're doing this.
> I consider it a good thing, given the alternative is to let films be
> out of print.
>
Selling is largely marketing, not just releasing the product.
They don't see the point in marketing these movies, except en masse.
Ultimately movies should just be available without a 'selling point'
being so important. They can make money for the service.
I see this DVD-R on demand as a good thing.
Not everyone is supposed to want all these movies, assuming many people
do is a marketing decision.
trotsky
Dec 17, 2012, 1:59:26 PM12/17/12
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the stuff you see on their site is sold by other vendors.
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Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Dec 17, 2012, 6:19:55 PM12/17/12
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In article <50cf9de4$0$9072$815e...@news.qwest.net>,
Brian Kraft <bkr...@nyx.net> wrote:
>calvin wrote in part:
>and you might have a moral dilemma about downloading it.
It's not clear to me why a manu-on-demand DVD is "harder to see" anyway.
It gets there just as quick, and the bits are the same..
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Brian Kraft <bkr...@nyx.net> wrote:
>calvin wrote in part:
>
>>Why this movie should be harder to see than others
>>is a mystery.
>
>So close yet so far. It's found uplist, in alt.binaries.dvd.classics
>>Why this movie should be harder to see than others
>>is a mystery.
>
>and you might have a moral dilemma about downloading it.
It's not clear to me why a manu-on-demand DVD is "harder to see" anyway.
It gets there just as quick, and the bits are the same..
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calvin
Dec 17, 2012, 6:29:04 PM12/17/12
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On Dec 17, 6:19 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> It's not clear to me why a manu-on-demand DVD is "harder to see" anyway.
> It gets there just as quick, and the bits are the same..
Because I had been looking for it for a long time
> It's not clear to me why a manu-on-demand DVD is "harder to see" anyway.
> It gets there just as quick, and the bits are the same..
and it wasn't on DVD until 2009, and it still isn't
available on Netflix.
Invid Fan
Dec 17, 2012, 11:45:55 PM12/17/12
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In article
<6fb0f7bd-60d3-4714...@f19g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
Lots of stuff never gets to Netflix, but I do agree with burn on demand
titles you often never hear of their release. It's similar to a band
releasing songs on their own web site: if you never randomly go there,
or other fan related sites, you'll never hear about it.
<6fb0f7bd-60d3-4714...@f19g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
titles you often never hear of their release. It's similar to a band
releasing songs on their own web site: if you never randomly go there,
or other fan related sites, you'll never hear about it.
calvin
Dec 17, 2012, 11:55:44 PM12/17/12
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On Dec 17, 11:45 pm, Invid Fan <in...@loclanet.com> wrote:
> calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > On Dec 17, 6:19 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> > > It's not clear to me why a manu-on-demand DVD is "harder to see" anyway.
> > > It gets there just as quick, and the bits are the same..
>
> > Because I had been looking for it for a long time
> > and it wasn't on DVD until 2009, and it still isn't
> > available on Netflix.
>
> Lots of stuff never gets to Netflix, but I do agree with burn on demand
> titles you often never hear of their release. It's similar to a band
> releasing songs on their own web site: if you never randomly go there,
> or other fan related sites, you'll never hear about it.
>
The thing is, which I mentioned in another
> calvin <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> > On Dec 17, 6:19 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> > > It's not clear to me why a manu-on-demand DVD is "harder to see" anyway.
> > > It gets there just as quick, and the bits are the same..
>
> > Because I had been looking for it for a long time
> > and it wasn't on DVD until 2009, and it still isn't
> > available on Netflix.
>
> Lots of stuff never gets to Netflix, but I do agree with burn on demand
> titles you often never hear of their release. It's similar to a band
> releasing songs on their own web site: if you never randomly go there,
> or other fan related sites, you'll never hear about it.
>
post, this is a movie directed by John
Frankenheimer in his heyday, with notable
writers, and a stellar cast. I have nothing
against 'manufacture on demand'. I have the
DVD in my amazon cart now.
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hislop
Dec 18, 2012, 9:33:38 AM12/18/12
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On 18/12/2012 3:45 PM, Invid Fan wrote:
> In article
> <6fb0f7bd-60d3-4714...@f19g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
> calvin<cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 17, 6:19 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan<tednolan>) wrote:
>>> It's not clear to me why a manu-on-demand DVD is "harder to see" anyway.
>>> It gets there just as quick, and the bits are the same..
>>
>> Because I had been looking for it for a long time
>> and it wasn't on DVD until 2009, and it still isn't
>> available on Netflix.
>
> Lots of stuff never gets to Netflix, but I do agree with burn on demand
> titles you often never hear of their release. It's similar to a band
> releasing songs on their own web site: if you never randomly go there,
> or other fan related sites, you'll never hear about it.
>
Not entirely true. The 'on demand' DVDs show up on Amazon.
> In article
> <6fb0f7bd-60d3-4714...@f19g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
> calvin<cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 17, 6:19 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan<tednolan>) wrote:
>>> It's not clear to me why a manu-on-demand DVD is "harder to see" anyway.
>>> It gets there just as quick, and the bits are the same..
>>
>> Because I had been looking for it for a long time
>> and it wasn't on DVD until 2009, and it still isn't
>> available on Netflix.
>
> Lots of stuff never gets to Netflix, but I do agree with burn on demand
> titles you often never hear of their release. It's similar to a band
> releasing songs on their own web site: if you never randomly go there,
> or other fan related sites, you'll never hear about it.
>
I buy so many movies on line I don't really think I'm missing out on
knowing releases this way. Nothing really shows up in stores or hire
stores, especially in Australia. DVD players in Australia routinely are
sold without region encoding, but they usually don't tell you that.
I've bought several on demand DVDs now. Mostly movies of the late 60s.
A completely non existent range in stores.
Kingo Gondo
Dec 21, 2012, 2:07:07 AM12/21/12
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