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"Between Two Worlds" with John Garfield DVD now on Ebay!

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ginzy

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:19:32 AM11/24/09
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"Between Two Worlds" with John Garfield is one of the best fantasy
noir films of
all time. A nice looking DVD is now available on Ebay!

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ginzy

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Jim Beaver

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Feb 16, 2010, 12:46:24 PM2/16/10
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"ginzy" <gin...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Between Two Worlds" with John Garfield is one of the best fantasy
> noir films of
> all time.

I see we've reached the point where "noir" means "black and white."

Jim Beaver

william

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Feb 16, 2010, 2:26:35 PM2/16/10
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That's a tad reductionist. "Noir" actually means black and white plus
fedoras and a gat. Having just spent way too long researching the
roots and definition(s) of "film noir" I can tell you with some
authority that the term is absolutely meaningless and is based on
wrong-headed assumptions. There. I feel better now.

William
www.williamahearn.com

Jim Beaver

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Feb 16, 2010, 7:42:20 PM2/16/10
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"william" <wlah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I agree, and figured you of all people would get the sarcasm of my remark.
BETWEEN TWO WORLDS is in black-and-white, but it's got about as many fedoras
and gats as THE KING AND I. For the OP to refer to it as noir suggested to
me that HIS definition of noir must mean anything not in color. A joke on
my part.

Jim Beaver


william

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Feb 16, 2010, 8:13:12 PM2/16/10
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On Feb 16, 7:42 pm, "Jim Beaver" <jumble...@prodigy.spam> wrote:
> "william" <wlahe...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I did get the sarcasm. I should have instead pointed out that John
Ford's "The Long Voyage Home" is listed as a "noir" in Silver's
encyclopedia of film noir. It seems to be "noir" based solely on Gregg
Toland's use of shadows. "Between Two Worlds" isn't one that I've
seen. As for gats and fedoras that was sarcasm as some films now being
considered "noir" are Lang's "Clash By Night," "Jeopardy" (with
Barbara Stanwyck) and "Deep Valley" (with Ida Lupino). So your
assertion that anything in B&W is "noir" isn't sarcasm as much as
prescience since "Casablanca" and "Citizen Kane" are now considered
"noir" by some.

William
www.williamahearn.com


Jim Beaver

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Feb 17, 2010, 1:39:49 AM2/17/10
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"william" <wlah...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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RESPONSE:

Well, the sarcasm was aimed at the OP and nothing more. BETWEEN TWO WORLDS,
by the way, and which you may know, is about passengers on a mysterious
ocean liner who turn out to be dead and are in transit to their individual
afterlives. It's all fog and lens diffusers and it looks more like the
Cagney MIDSUMMER NIGHT'S DREAM than THE LONG VOYAGE HOME.

Jim Beaver


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