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Mike Henley

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Sep 17, 2003, 5:58:56 AM9/17/03
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while growing up in the early eighties, i had an older brother who
used to watch a movie series in which there was a pair of buddies, one
of them was a handsome womanizing guy and the other was overweight and
i think with a beard, it was mostly comedy with action, not
particularly intelligent but i think it was entertaining.

Both of them were white. It was a series in the sense that there were
several movies with the same guys, in much the same way kevin smith
does his movies now with his jay and silent bob characters.

I think people who liked charles bronson also liked those guys.

Do you know what they're called?

John Harkness

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Sep 17, 2003, 7:00:09 AM9/17/03
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The guys are Terence Hill and Bud Spencer, the films are Italian, but
I don't think the fifteen or so films they did together were
necessarily a series, though they did do five or six films that were
-- A Man Called Trinity, Trinity is Still My Name, etcetera.

John Harkness

John Dean

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Sep 17, 2003, 9:28:49 AM9/17/03
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Or Burt Reynolds and Dom DeLuise in the Cannonball / Smoky stuff
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John Dean
Oxford
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Mike Henley

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Sep 17, 2003, 11:31:37 AM9/17/03
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John Harkness <j...@allstream.net> wrote in message news:<mbfgmv4nbcsa3r5rd...@4ax.com>...

I was really surprised to learn about italian cinema; the whole notion
that european cinema was at one time a happening thing is bizarre
considering how things are these days. The whole spagetti western
thing is totally absurd. What happened to that italian films
phenomenon?

W. Lydecker

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Sep 17, 2003, 11:56:16 AM9/17/03
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Mike Henley commented: "...the whole notion that european cinema was

at one time a happening thing is bizarre considering how things are
these days. The whole spagetti western thing is totally absurd."
##################################< Strange as it may seem, someday the
film situation "these days" may seem "bizarre" to film historians.
Styles come and go. SWs made a film star of Clint Eastwood, and gave
veteran actors an extended career. Spaghetti Westerns were around for
about a decade or more. There are still many fans of the Leone
Eastwood films. Veterans like Wallach; Spencer and Hill, are still
revered mainly for their "Spaghettis". * * * * *
Different strokes...

Elko Tchernev

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Sep 18, 2003, 3:36:07 AM9/18/03
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John Harkness wrote:

> On 17 Sep 2003 02:58:56 -0700, mnhe...@msn.com (Mike Henley) wrote:
>
>
>>while growing up in the early eighties, i had an older brother who
>>used to watch a movie series in which there was a pair of buddies, one
>>of them was a handsome womanizing guy and the other was overweight and
>>i think with a beard, it was mostly comedy with action, not
>>particularly intelligent but i think it was entertaining.
>>

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>
> The guys are Terence Hill and Bud Spencer, the films are Italian, but
> I don't think the fifteen or so films they did together were
> necessarily a series, though they did do five or six films that were
> -- A Man Called Trinity, Trinity is Still My Name, etcetera.
>

Can somebody figure out the name of a movie with Terence Hill
(unless I'm mistaken about him - the way I mistakenly thought it was
Malcolm McDowell in the Stunt Man, instead of the nobody Railsback). As
far as I remember the plot, his protagonist is the lawyer of a woman
that is tried and convicted for killing her husband. After serving her
sentence, she finds out her husband is alive and had set her up in order
to get rid of her and live with his lover. So this time she really kills
him, only to go to prison again, as this is Italy and there is no double
jeopardy rule in that legal system.
The movie might be 'The true and the false',
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0067941/
but the idiot reviewer on IMDB includes just enough (lack of) detail in
his comments to make it impossible to tell.

beabea

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Sep 19, 2003, 3:58:32 PM9/19/03
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 03:36:07 -0400, Elko Tchernev wrote:
> Can somebody figure out the name of a movie with Terence Hill
> (unless I'm mistaken about him - the way I mistakenly thought it was
> Malcolm McDowell in the Stunt Man, instead of the nobody Railsback). As
> far as I remember the plot, his protagonist is the lawyer of a woman
> that is tried and convicted for killing her husband. After serving her
> sentence, she finds out her husband is alive and had set her up in order
> to get rid of her and live with his lover. So this time she really kills
> him, only to go to prison again, as this is Italy and there is no double
> jeopardy rule in that legal system.
> The movie might be 'The true and the false',
> http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0067941/
> but the idiot reviewer on IMDB includes just enough (lack of) detail in
> his comments to make it impossible to tell.

I did a little search on the web in italian and from the info I found in
this site (in italian)
http://www.mymovies.it/snc/recens.asp?Id=27412
the movie is actually 'The true and the false' (il vero e il falso) or at
least the plot it's the same.

Ciao,
beatrice.
--
Remember: Kitsch never goes out of style

beabea

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Sep 19, 2003, 4:26:02 PM9/19/03
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On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:58:32 +0200, beabea wrote:
> I did a little search on the web in italian and from the info I found in
> this site (in italian)
> http://www.mymovies.it/snc/recens.asp?Id=27412
> the movie is actually 'The true and the false' (il vero e il falso) or at
> least the plot it's the same.

I still think the movie its the same, but I've read the plot more
closely and actually there are some differences.
I roughly translate (sorry for my english) the plot summary that's on
the site above mentioned:
"A woman is unfairly accused of killing her husband's (Claudio)
mistress. When she exit from prison she finds out that the mistress is
alive and is living with Claudio. The woman than kills her husband's
lover and seeing herself accused once again committs suicide"

Elko Tchernev

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Sep 19, 2003, 4:55:51 PM9/19/03
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beabea wrote:

Yes! Thanks so much! That cursed IMDB reviewer could have included
some plot in his (stupid) rantings. I don't know Italian, so I didn't do
the search you did; I should have - I can easily understand the
description on the Italian page. And it highlights the strange morphing
memory undergoes - in the movie, it is actually the lover, not her
husband, that the heroine is accused of killing and later kills.
Cheers,

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