The Martian Chronicles airs Sunday on THIS movie channel
SFTV_troy
Timerider and Stargate SG-1. The channel is 17-2 in Philadelphia...
for other places see this list:
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Ubiquitous
>3 to 9 p.m. Sunday. It's part of a daylong sci-fi marathon including
>Timerider and Stargate SG-1. The channel is 17-2 in Philadelphia...
>for other places see this list:
Are you talking about that aweful NBC adoptation from the early 1980's?
kjwkjw
wrote:
How can a show be awful with cutting-edge special effects like this
one? (kidding, of course)
Even for a made-for-tv 1979/1980 series, these were horrible. Throw
in some cheesy music and I can't even force myself to watch it again.
Ubiquitous
wrote:
>>Are you talking about that aweful NBC adoptation from the early 1980's?
>
>How can a show be awful with cutting-edge special effects like this
>one? (kidding, of course)
Heh.
> Even for a made-for-tv 1979/1980 series, these were horrible. Throw
>in some cheesy music and I can't even force myself to watch it again.
Oh my, I remember that cheesy organ music now! Thanks for the earworm!
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Ray Bradbury's w/ Rock Hudson and Bernadette Peters. 3 series, two
hours each - a) the landing or a few surviving Martian illusions for
the masses, b) colonisation or how a few turns to one for borrowing
Heinlien's Grok effect, c) last of residual earthmen, and a Brave New
post apocalyptic world.
Fairly muddled all but a fanzoid of minor obscurities -- aka: Robinson
Caruso on Mars, Enemy Mine -- still, 6 hours is six hours, in a
passing note for Bradbury.
I found them dubbed, besides, in Spanish, which I ran by a nice
Mexican kid. Figured no subtitles would be a treat. "No mass", he
said -- he didn't want nothing, no more to do with the likes. Either
too many Texan actors or perhaps it really take long to go from
desensitized to spoiled and discriminating with any quantity of movies
is my theory.
I didn't bother looking up how to say: Don't like it, fine -- there's
a BBC televised collection for every Shakespeare play.
krp
"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
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The one with Rock Hudson cavorting on the Mars surface in a T-shit. No
pressure suit and impervious to 200 below zero temps.
SFTV_troy
> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
>
>
>
> The one with Rock Hudson cavorting on the Mars surface in a T-shit. No
> pressure suit and impervious to 200 below zero temps.
(shrug) When I looked at imdb.com, it was around 7 stars rating so I
figured it might be worth mentioning here on r.a.s.t
I'm now watching an exciting movie about a time-traveling motorcyclist
on hulu.com (I use the word "exciting" sarcastically). Timerider.
That too was on "this" yesterday.
TT
I watched it back in the day...and thought it was awesome and chilling.
I still remember couple moments from the series, so it made quite an
impression on me.
I see it's on youtube, starting from episode 2:
TT
I was of course talking about "Martian Chronicles"
Michael Black
It's been 35 years since I read the book, but I thought that was part of
it. Not only is the book more fantasy than science fiction, but there was
an illusion or something about Mars that caused scenes to happen as if
the people were still on Earth.
Michael
Ubiquitous
>I'm now watching an exciting movie about a time-traveling motorcyclist
>on hulu.com (I use the word "exciting" sarcastically). Timerider.
>That too was on "this" yesterday.
Wasn't that a low-budget 1980's move, or did they *shudder* base a
TV series on the movie?
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Ubiquitous
I suspect when the book was originally written we didn't know about
Mars' atmosphere, but I was willing to overlook it.Actually, I think
there was some terraforming that took place at some point.
The illusion was caused by the Martians, who used their telepathy
to get rid of the pesky Earthlings.
Videot Savant
Videot Savant
> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 05:05:35 -0500, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> >>3 to 9 p.m. Sunday. It's part of a daylong sci-fi marathon including
> >>Timerider and Stargate SG-1. The channel is 17-2 in Philadelphia...
> >>for other places see this list:
>
> >Are you talking about that aweful NBC adoptation from the early 1980's?
>
> How can a show be awful with cutting-edge special effects like this
> one? (kidding, of course)
>
> Even for a made-for-tv 1979/1980 series, these were horrible. Throw
> in some cheesy music and I can't even force myself to watch it again.
Part one was pretty good, punk. It was parts 2 and 3 that kinda
sucked badly.
Merrick Baldelli
<SFTV...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>(shrug) When I looked at imdb.com, it was around 7 stars rating so I
>figured it might be worth mentioning here on r.a.s.t
Then again, considering the source of this information being
shared to r.a.s.t... Thanks.. Pass..
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krp
"Michael Black" <et...@ncf.ca> wrote in message
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I think the book was written in the 40's. We didn't know anything much about
Mars, atmosphere, gravity, temperatures and the like. It was just a RED
PLANET back then. My point is that the film is a bit preposterous in
today's reality.
krp
> et...@ncf.ca wrote:
>>On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, krp wrote:
>>> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Are you talking about that aweful NBC adoptation from the early
>>>> 1980's?
>>>
>>>
>>> The one with Rock Hudson cavorting on the Mars surface in a T-shit.
>>> No pressure suit and impervious to 200 below zero temps.
>>
>>It's been 35 years since I read the book, but I thought that was
>>part of it. Not only is the book more fantasy than science fiction,
>>but there was an illusion or something about Mars that caused scenes
>>to happen as if the people were still on Earth.
>
> I suspect when the book was originally written we didn't know about
> Mars' atmosphere, but I was willing to overlook it.Actually, I think
> there was some terraforming that took place at some point.
There recently was a documentary on cable about teraforming Mars. It
said the process would take at least a century, maybe a thousand years.
While the planet could be considerably warmed, 90% of the planet would
remain too cold for human survival. While the atmosphere could thicken it
would still be about that of Earth's tallest mountains. Not T-shirt weather.
You might get as warm as 40 degrees F at the equator, but most of the planet
would still be at 100 degrees F below zero. They said that having Mars
duplicate Earth was not in the cards.
SFTV_troy
> SFTV_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >I'm now watching an exciting movie about a time-traveling motorcyclist
> >on hulu.com (I use the word "exciting" sarcastically). Timerider.
> >That too was on "this" yesterday.
>
> Wasn't that a low-budget 1980's move, or did they *shudder* base a
> TV series on the movie?
Movie. Pre-terminator.
Professor Bubba
<kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
"The book" is a collection of short stories written over the course of
several years during the 1940s. It was published in 1950. Since we're
living through the timeframe given in the book (for instance, a nuclear
war occurs on Earth in late 2005), recent editions have cheated and
advanced the timeframe by about a generation so that the war now
happens in 2036.
And, again, it's a fantasy. The Mars in the book isn't the Mars we
know, and it was never supposed to be.
Michael Black
But I remember something about very earthlike scenes on Mars, even picket
fences, that isn't so much a reflection of not knowing about Mars, but of
what Bradbury was trying to write about. Most of his writing is more
fantasy than science fiction, and that seemed to be the explanation.
Michael
krp
"Professor Bubba" <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> wrote in message
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I was an avid S/F reader in the 50's as a child. Much of Heinlein's,
Asimov's and the other major authors of that day would be considered
non-scientific by today's standards. The simple fact is that for many
reasons (many deliberate) we were very ignorant about things like the
atmosphere on Mars and the like. Do you ever wonder why the aliens largely
have to arms and 2 legs, 2 eyes and somehow they ALL speak English? (Notable
exceptions exist.) For a little boy of 89, however, they were utterly
fascinating. The made for TV "Martian Chronicles" might be tolerable as
escapist entertainment if they weren't so damn dreadful. Even Rock Hudson,
Darren McGavin and Roddy MacDowell STUNK to high heaven in it.
krp
>>>>>> 3 to 9 p.m. Sunday. It's part of a daylong sci-fi marathon
>>>>>> including
>>>>>> Timerider and Stargate SG-1. The channel is 17-2 in Philadelphia...
>>>>>> for other places see this list:
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you talking about that aweful NBC adoptation from the early
>>>>> 1980's?
>>>>
>>>> The one with Rock Hudson cavorting on the Mars surface in a T-shit.
>>>> No pressure suit and impervious to 200 below zero temps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It's been 35 years since I read the book, but I thought that was part of
>>> it. Not only is the book more fantasy than science fiction, but there
>>> was
>>> an illusion or something about Mars that caused scenes to happen as if
>>> the people were still on Earth.
>>
>> I think the book was written in the 40's. We didn't know anything much
>> about Mars, atmosphere, gravity, temperatures and the like. It was just a
>> RED PLANET back then. My point is that the film is a bit preposterous in
>> today's reality.
>>
>>
> But I remember something about very earthlike scenes on Mars, even picket
> fences, that isn't so much a reflection of not knowing about Mars, but of
> what Bradbury was trying to write about. Most of his writing is more
> fantasy than science fiction, and that seemed to be the explanation.
Mr. Bradbury is an overbearing, pretentious ass. He has been so free to
castigate other authors while his own leaves little room to be so free
condemning others. All of the major authors of the 50's were getting it
wrong. Bradbury did love to preach as if he had always gotten science
correct. He didn't.
Professor Bubba
<kr...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Can't disagree with that.
> He has been so free to
> castigate other authors while his own leaves little room to be so free
> condemning others. All of the major authors of the 50's were getting it
> wrong. Bradbury did love to preach as if he had always gotten science
> correct. He didn't.
Bradbury continues to be ... difficult. On one recent occasion he was
introduced on TV for an interview, and the first thing out of his mouth
(no question had been asked yet) was that he'd just seen one of those
fighting-robots shows on TV, and that it was the stupidest thing he'd
ever seen because, well, robots were fighting, and he thought that was
stupid. He just didn't get it at all -- the show wasn't about the
fighting robots, it was about the budding geniuses who'd designed
themand worked out all the problems, etc. (What did he think the
robots should be doing? Painting cars?) Bradbury has had a lot of
practice being a crabby old man (he's been one for sixty years or so
already) and now he's aged into the role.
But as to The Martian Chronicles, it isn't hard sf or even soft sf.
It's a collection of fantasy stories. Mars might as well be the Old
West for all the difference it makes.
Flasherly
> In article <4b4396e8$0$4849$9a6e1...@unlimited.newshosting.com>, krp
While you're at it, in passing, might as well bring in Bradbury's The
Illustrated Man. I wasn't aware Martian Chronicles was in any sense
contingent, stylistically, upon coherently attempting to bridge a
collection of stories.
I don't sense this the case with the Martian Chronicles, or one being
as apparent, as it with The Illustrated Man. The thought of living
tattoos, obligated to live out events past and future, is allied to a
story from Kafka or Camus -- as punishment, a rime is painfully
tattooed, pain being the medium to conscious realization.
In any event, The Illustrated Man appealed to me. Later I went after
Bradbury for how the movie came into being;- collective stories, which
are culled for an overall impression within thematically reoccurences
shifted, (a creative interpretation), back upon a tattooed motif in
relating selected stories the movie includes. Stories, in part, that
go back to early SciFi writers, and those whom had experience from
WW2;-- one of Bradbury's, about a group of men stranded in spacesuits,
and their radio communications about dying might correlates with the
Sundome interval from Illustrated Man.
The Martian Chronicles appears well enough focused upon events that
interrelate, over time, to generally a Mars colonization experience.
Can't say I've read Bradbury's material for an intent later formed in
bringing them together for the Martian series. Only that Illustrated
Man is a more disjointed effect expected from literally stringing
together a script from topically disparate stories. Hard to imagine,
also, without Rod Steiger to carry it off.
inf...@mindspring.com
>But I remember something about very earthlike scenes on Mars, even picket
>fences
That was an illusion the Martians used to trick the Earthlings. The
Martians were able to read the minds of the astronauts and recreate
specific scenes from each of their pasts. When the astronauts were
lulled into a false sense of security, the Martians killed them.
Ubiquitous
>"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> I suspect when the book was originally written we didn't know about
>> Mars' atmosphere, but I was willing to overlook it.Actually, I think
>> there was some terraforming that took place at some point.
>
> There recently was a documentary on cable about teraforming Mars. It
>said the process would take at least a century, maybe a thousand years.
>While the planet could be considerably warmed, 90% of the planet would
>remain too cold for human survival. While the atmosphere could thicken it
>would still be about that of Earth's tallest mountains. Not T-shirt weather.
>You might get as warm as 40 degrees F at the equator, but most of the planet
>would still be at 100 degrees F below zero. They said that having Mars
>duplicate Earth was not in the cards.
There's also the problem of Mars no longer having a magnetic field...
If memory serves, in the book, Mars was terraform by some guy who planted
trees which created an earth-like atmosphere in a manner not at all unlike
that depicted at the end of Total Recall.