Ingrid Bergman in "Orient Express"
Kerrison
Ingrid Bergman won Best Supporting Actress for her part in the film.
It was for doing her sole big scene in one single take lasting 4-and-
half-minutes, not fluffing her lines during the course of it, and
keeping a straight face (well, almost) while spouting the most
preposterous accent imaginable. Well, bravo, she deserved it. Anthony
Perkins, on the other hand, deserved a big slap for the silliest
performance in the movie, with Wendy Hiller a close runner-up for
hers.
Here's the Bergman scene, her one-take Award-winnning performance
starting at 2:20 and ending at 6:50 ...
william
> Having just watched "Murder on the Orient Express" I realised why
> Ingrid Bergman won Best Supporting Actress for her part in the film.
Bergman apologized for that win and suggested that Valentina Cortese
deserved it. Pure class and a astute eye toward acting and films.
She's one of the few winners that has some "real" sense of self.
William
www.williamahearn.com
Dave in Toronto
wrote:
Thanks for the link. You're right about the "(well, almost)" I think
some of those little grimaces she made were an alternative to her
breaking into peals of laughter.
Dave in Toronto
michael
now and again in that scene. She sounds like a regular Swede speaking
English. She didn't have to act for that scene, she simply played a swede
with bad english. Even so, she was a great actress, and i don't mind her
getting it either.
"Kerrison" <kerrison1...@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i melding
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Dave in Toronto
> I am Scandinavian. Bergman as you know was swedish, which is what she speaks
> now and again in that scene. She sounds like a regular Swede speaking
> English. She didn't have to act for that scene, she simply played a swede
> with bad english. Even so, she was a great actress, and i don't mind her
> getting it either.
>
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> > Having just watched "Murder on the Orient Express" I realised why
> > Ingrid Bergman won Best Supporting Actress for her part in the film.
> > It was for doing her sole big scene in one single take lasting 4-and-
> > half-minutes, not fluffing her lines during the course of it, and
> > keeping a straight face (well, almost) while spouting the most
> > preposterous accent imaginable. Well, bravo, she deserved it. Anthony
> > Perkins, on the other hand, deserved a big slap for the silliest
> > performance in the movie, with Wendy Hiller a close runner-up for
> > hers.
>
> > Here's the Bergman scene, her one-take Award-winnning performance
> > starting at 2:20 and ending at 6:50 ...
>
>
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It was the dialogue ("Little brown babies") as much as the accent that
amused me.
Dave in Toronto
Kerrison
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> It was the dialogue ("Little brown babies") as much as the accent that
> amused me.
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I agree about the dialogue ("I vos born backwards ...") but on a
second viewing of this long take I think she may have fluffed one or
two moments after all. For example, at about 5:30 in that You Tube
link she says "... she teach English to children .. to foreign
children ..." which suggests that the word "foreign" was in the script
but she forgot and immediately corrected herself. Her expression at
that point as she gazes at Finney suggests she's about to corpse, but
being the professional she was, they both carry on till the end of the
scene.
I've since looked her up on Wikipedia and see that Alton wanted to do
that scene all in one take and that she was delighted with the idea.
What is slightly puzzling are the references to her being tall, yet
Wiki says she was 5'7" which surely doesn't count as "tall". Now if
she'd been 6 feet I could have understood the reference, but
5'7" ? ... There must have been some very short leading men around if
that's what they thought.
Dave in Toronto
> On Jan 2, 3:53 am, Dave in Toronto <dmatthew...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
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> > On Jan 1, 9:02 pm, "michael" <grus...@yahoo.no> wrote:
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> > > I am Scandinavian. Bergman as you know was swedish, which is what she speaks
> > > now and again in that scene. She sounds like a regular Swede speaking
> > > English. She didn't have to act for that scene, she simply played a swede
> > > with bad english. Even so, she was a great actress, and i don't mind her
> > > getting it either.
>
> > > "Kerrison" <kerrison126-spar...@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i meldingnews:e79f2d30-4e29-4b01...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > Having just watched "Murder on the Orient Express" I realised why
> > > > Ingrid Bergman won Best Supporting Actress for her part in the film.
> > > > It was for doing her sole big scene in one single take lasting 4-and-
> > > > half-minutes, not fluffing her lines during the course of it, and
> > > > keeping a straight face (well, almost) while spouting the most
> > > > preposterous accent imaginable. Well, bravo, she deserved it. Anthony
> > > > Perkins, on the other hand, deserved a big slap for the silliest
> > > > performance in the movie, with Wendy Hiller a close runner-up for
> > > > hers.
>
> > > > Here's the Bergman scene, her one-take Award-winnning performance
> > > > starting at 2:20 and ending at 6:50 ...
>
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> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > It was the dialogue ("Little brown babies") as much as the accent that
> > amused me.
>
> > Dave in Toronto- Hide quoted text -
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> I agree about the dialogue ("I vos born backwards ...") but on a
> second viewing of this long take I think she may have fluffed one or
> two moments after all. For example, at about 5:30 in that You Tube
> link she says "... she teach English to children .. to foreign
> children ..." which suggests that the word "foreign" was in the script
> but she forgot and immediately corrected herself. Her expression at
> that point as she gazes at Finney suggests she's about to corpse, but
> being the professional she was, they both carry on till the end of the
> scene.
>
> I've since looked her up on Wikipedia and see that Alton wanted to do
> that scene all in one take and that she was delighted with the idea.
> What is slightly puzzling are the references to her being tall, yet
> Wiki says she was 5'7" which surely doesn't count as "tall". Now if
> she'd been 6 feet I could have understood the reference, but
> 5'7" ? ... There must have been some very short leading men around if
>
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imdb lists her as 5'9'' - Tallish I guess - Albert Finney is the same
height but I think in Murder on the Orient Express he was deliberately
made to look smaller, by the use of strategic camera angles etc, for
the sake of the character - I'm not to familiar with the Hercules
Poirot of the books but I belive he's described as a small man.
Dave in Toronto
Howard Brazee
<dmatt...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>imdb lists her as 5'9'' - Tallish I guess - Albert Finney is the same
>height but I think in Murder on the Orient Express he was deliberately
>made to look smaller, by the use of strategic camera angles etc, for
>the sake of the character - I'm not to familiar with the Hercules
>Poirot of the books but I belive he's described as a small man.
Of course heels help.
I was surprised that in the movie _Julie and Julia_, they showed
Steep's platform shoes so obviously. It would have been easy to hide
them.
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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
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Smokie Darling (Annie)
> On Jan 2, 3:54 am, Kerrison <kerrison126-spar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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> > On Jan 2, 3:53 am, Dave in Toronto <dmatthew...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 1, 9:02 pm, "michael" <grus...@yahoo.no> wrote:
>
> > > > I am Scandinavian. Bergman as you know was swedish, which is what she speaks
> > > > now and again in that scene. She sounds like a regular Swede speaking
> > > > English. She didn't have to act for that scene, she simply played a swede
> > > > with bad english. Even so, she was a great actress, and i don't mind her
> > > > getting it either.
>
> > > > "Kerrison" <kerrison126-spar...@yahoo.co.uk> skrev i meldingnews:e79f2d30-4e29-4b01...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > > > Having just watched "Murder on the Orient Express" I realised why
> > > > > Ingrid Bergman won Best Supporting Actress for her part in the film.
> > > > > It was for doing her sole big scene in one single take lasting 4-and-
> > > > > half-minutes, not fluffing her lines during the course of it, and
> > > > > keeping a straight face (well, almost) while spouting the most
> > > > > preposterous accent imaginable. Well, bravo, she deserved it. Anthony
> > > > > Perkins, on the other hand, deserved a big slap for the silliest
> > > > > performance in the movie, with Wendy Hiller a close runner-up for
> > > > > hers.
>
> > > > > Here's the Bergman scene, her one-take Award-winnning performance
> > > > > starting at 2:20 and ending at 6:50 ...
>
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > It was the dialogue ("Little brown babies") as much as the accent that
> > > amused me.
>
> > > Dave in Toronto- Hide quoted text -
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>
> > I agree about the dialogue ("I vos born backwards ...") but on a
> > second viewing of this long take I think she may have fluffed one or
> > two moments after all. For example, at about 5:30 in that You Tube
> > link she says "... she teach English to children .. to foreign
> > children ..." which suggests that the word "foreign" was in the script
> > but she forgot and immediately corrected herself. Her expression at
> > that point as she gazes at Finney suggests she's about to corpse, but
> > being the professional she was, they both carry on till the end of the
> > scene.
>
> > I've since looked her up on Wikipedia and see that Alton wanted to do
> > that scene all in one take and that she was delighted with the idea.
> > What is slightly puzzling are the references to her being tall, yet
> > Wiki says she was 5'7" which surely doesn't count as "tall". Now if
> > she'd been 6 feet I could have understood the reference, but
> > 5'7" ? ... There must have been some very short leading men around if
> > that's what they thought.
>
They also say that Tom Cruise is listed between 5'9" and 5'10" (I've
seen both heights in his profile).
Consider that Sophia Loren *towered* over Alan Ladd (according one
interview she did with Johnny Carson, Ladd had to stand on a box for
their love scenes), I think that many popular actors were much shorter
in the earlier days.
Albert Finney is the same
> height but I think in Murder on the Orient Express he was deliberately
> made to look smaller, by the use of strategic camera angles etc, for
> the sake of the character - I'm not to familiar with the Hercules
> Poirot of the books but I belive he's described as a small man.
Hercule was a small and fastidious man. Almost petite.
Howard Brazee
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> Without looking, how tall would you guess Teller to be?
Okay.... Might help if I had any clue about whom you were speaking.
Teller? Penn&Teller <giggle>?
Halmyre
ebf5c5...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, Barnab...@yahoo.com says...
I'm sure I've seen a picture somewhere of the built-up shoes Bogart wore for
his scenes with Bergman in 'Casablanca'.
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Kerrison
> In article <742904db-2fe3-4bb1-bfa9-
> ebf5c5f59...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, Barnabus1...@yahoo.com says...
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Internet references to Bogart's height seem to vary between 5'7" and
5'10" ... What is more surprising is that Silvester Stallone appears
to be no taller than 5'7" in bare feet!
Howard Brazee
Yep, that's his legal name.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 07:47:38 -0800 (PST), "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
>
> >On Jan 2, 8:07 pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
> >> Without looking, how tall would you guess Teller to be?
>
> >Okay.... Might help if I had any clue about whom you were speaking.
> >Teller? Penn&Teller <giggle>?
>
> Yep, that's his legal name.
See, the problem is, I never remember which one is which... I'm think
that Teller is the shorter of the two, so I'd say he is probably 5'8
to 5'10 (isn't the other guy like huge? 6'5" or something).
Dave in Toronto
> Without looking, how tall would you guess Teller to be?
>
> --
I would say about 5'6".
Dave in Toronto
Smokie Darling (Annie)
You know, in reality, he probably is. After I made my guess, I went
and checked on imdb. I was right in the right area (for *that*
profile).
Imdb says that Gary Sinise is 5'10", and he is probably at least 2
inches shorter than that (I've met him, and I'm 5'10").
Dave in Toronto
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I think the heights given - especially of the male actors - in studio
biographies and on imbd have to be taken with a grain of salt. I find
even in real life shortish males often tend to add an inch or two when
asked their height.
Dave in Toronto
Dave in Toronto
wrote:
> On Jan 3, 10:24 am, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 3 Jan 2010 07:47:38 -0800 (PST), "Smokie Darling (Annie)"
>
> > <Barnabus1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >On Jan 2, 8:07 pm, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
> > >> Without looking, how tall would you guess Teller to be?
>
> > >Okay.... Might help if I had any clue about whom you were speaking.
> > >Teller? Penn&Teller <giggle>?
>
> > Yep, that's his legal name.
>
> See, the problem is, I never remember which one is which... I'm think
> that Teller is the shorter of the two, so I'd say he is probably 5'8
> to 5'10 (isn't the other guy like huge? 6'5" or something).
O.K. Penn is the big guy and he's 6'6" according to Wikedia, Penn is
his first name, his surname is Jillette-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Penn_Jillette -
Dave in Toronto
Smokie Darling (Annie)
I remembered Penn Jillette. Then had to dig around in my head and
remember if Penn was the tall one (lol). I was pretty close to right
on his height too, for an off the top of the head thing.
David Oberman
<dmatt...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>O.K. Penn is the big guy and he's 6'6" according to Wikedia, Penn is
>his first name, his surname is Jillette-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>Penn_Jillette -
Mick Fleetwood is 6'6" too.
Howard Brazee
<dmatt...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Without looking, how tall would you guess Teller to be?
>>
>> --
>
>
>I would say about 5'6".
That's what I would have guessed too. The point in this thread is,
who you stand next to makes a *huge* difference in perception. In
this case he stands next to a very big man.