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Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
Dear Sirs/friends,
Here is a copy of my letter to the Pioneer for kind
information and action as deemed fit.
Ram Gopal
(For favour of publication)
Sir, I am sorry to say that Mr. Swapan Dasgupta's article,
"Pakistan's affront a certificate for India", (Sunday Pioneer,
January 24), is shocking.
It appears that the recent decline in Hindutva movement and
rise of Islamism has prompted Mr. Dasgupta to get into the pro-Pak
band-wagon. His observations that, by ignoring Pakistani cricketers,
the IPL has given Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle to
arouse further hatred for India and, in suggesting that Pakistan
should introspect over why its players are not wanted, the Indian
government has complicated matters, are just indicative of his
changed perception.
Mr. Dasgupta has forgotten that all the honour, hospitality
and money showered on Pakistani musicians by India and Indian fans
during the past 50 years have done nothing either to improve Indo-Pak
relations or inducing Pakistan to accord similar facility to Indian
musicians to perform on Pakistani soil. He knows well that Pakistan
has nothing to offer to India or Indians, except hatred and terrorism
and yet Dasgupta has chosen to plead their case. That India 'has
become the power centre of world cricket' or that 'India is a point
of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis' is no reason for India to go
an extra mile with special offers to Pakistani personnel. We ought to
know that while the so-called unbigoted Pakistanis are interested in
Indian wealth and beauty, the bigoted ones, who form the majority,
are hell bent on converting Hindus to Islam and making Hindu India an
Islamic State.
Yours faithfully,
Ram Gopal
End of forwarded article from Ram Gopal
Pakistan's affront a certificate for India
By Swapan Dasgupta
The Pioneer
Sunday, January 24, 2010
The sharp reaction in Pakistan to the non-inclusion of any of its
players in next season's IPL may seem needlessly petulant. The IPL,
after all, is a privately-sponsored tournament and if team owners
collectively decide that it is not worth the hassle to involve
Pakistani cricketers, it can hardly be said to be a calculated
affront to the Pakistani state and its people. It's a bit like a
Pakistani music director claiming that Aamir Khan has insulted his
country by refusing to sign him up for his next blockbuster. Life is
not always a great conspiracy; momentous decisions are often taken on
mundane considerations, peripherally related to lofty matters of
state.
Nevertheless, I am heartened by the shrillness of the reaction in
Pakistan. If anything, it only goes to prove that Pakistanis attach a
great deal of value to the glamour of playing cricket in India. In
the 1970s, when India was a struggling socialist country, mired in
shortages, the ultimate prize for cricketers was a berth in an
English country side. I recall the outpouring of national pride when
the dashing Farokh Engineer kept wicket for Lancashire in the 1970s.
Pakistanis must have felt an equal measure of pride seeing Asif Iqbal
captain Kent, Majid Khan open the innings for Glamorgan, Zaheer Abbas
top the averages for Somerset and Intikhab Alam prop up Surrey. That
was because England was perceived as the headquarters of cricket.
Overseas cricketers even lusted for contracts with club sides in the
Lancashire League.
An associated feature of this craving to be recognised in England was
the dejection, which quickly turned to anger, if something went
wrong. Sourav Ganguly was contracted to play for Lancashire in 2000.
Unfortunately, he was not a great success. According to a report in
Wisden Cricketer (helpfully included in Sourav's Wikipedia entry),
"The imperious Indian -- dubbed 'Lord Snooty' -- deigned to represent
Lancashire in 2000. At the crease it was sometimes uncertain whether
his partner was a batsman or a batman being despatched to take his
discarded sweater to the pavilion or carry his kit bag. But mutiny
was afoot among the lower orders. In one match Ganguly, after
reaching his 50, raised his bat to the home balcony, only to find it
deserted."
Predictably, there were many in India (and too many in Bengal) who
equated Sourav's adjustment problems with English racism. They were
reacting in a manner entirely becoming of subject peoples who have
nothing apart from victimhood for succour.
What we are seeing in Pakistan is eerily reminiscent of an earlier
generation's love-hate relationship with English cricket. Today,
India is the power centre of world cricket; it controls the economics
of cricket. There is a natural desire to find a place in Indian
cricket -- and the public adulation is a bonus. Equally, the anguish
of exclusion invariably results in intemperate accusations of bias
and national humiliation.
Pakistan's affront is the best certificate for Indian cricket and, by
implication, the Indian economy. Along with Bolywood, the IPL is
evidence of India's soft power. Whether we like it or not, IPL is no
longer perceived as a private sector initiative; Lalit Modi's
preferences have a bearing on wider perceptions of India. When the
Bangladeshi bowler Mashrafe Mortaza was 'bought' by Shah Rukh Khan's
team last year for a whopping $600,000, it didn't merely attract
newer fans for Kolkata Knight Riders, it earned India immeasurable
goodwill in a neighbouring country that is prone to be rather prickly
in its dealings with the big neighbour.
From the perspective of statecraft, it would have made eminent sense
for the IPL to have acquired the services of a few Pakistani
cricketers. Instead, we are confronted by the needless spectacle of
most Pakistanis perceiving the exclusion as a national affront.
India is a point of envy for most non-bigoted Pakistanis; the bigoted
ones hate India for precisely that reason. There is a tendency in
Pakistan to contrast its own miserable plight (which includes a daily
dose of suicide-bombing) with the liberal dynamism of India. Many
Pakistanis feel towards India the same way as India feels for the US.
There is a desperate desire to be acknowledged.
By ignoring its cricketers, the IPL has unwittingly given a cynical
Pakistani Establishment a convenient handle with which to arouse
further hatred of the traditional enemy. In suggesting that Pakistan
should introspect over why its players are not wanted, South Block
has complicated matters and given a private matter an official twist.
At the heart of the problem is the insufficient realisation in India
that we are no longer a pathetic Third World country. A ham-handed
Home Ministry mindset still seems to dictate many of our responses to
complex issues. For example, the silly post-Headley visa regulations
meant that many writers from overseas couldn't make it to the Jaipur
Literary Festival. The two-month bar on multiple entries into India
also meant that some chose to give the event a miss, rather than make
convoluted travel plans.
I don't know the extent to which a one-size-fits-all visa regime
strengthens national security. But imagine if Britain or the US had
imposed similar restrictions on overseas visitors. Would we have
nodded our acquiescence of their homeland security or would we have
cursed them solidly and charged them with xenophobia?
National security is paramount. But before we insist that every knee-
jerk restriction is put into effect indiscriminately, it would be
beneficial to consider the reaction if we were at the receiving end.
The inability to be discerning cost the US enormous good will. India
would do well to learn the lessons and move towards an uncompromising
but enlightened national security regime, one that is blessed with
intelligence and discretion.
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Monday, January 25, 2010
1. GOI has already declared that IPL is a totally private business
body and GOI has nothing to do with any of the functions of IPL. So
much for GOI.
2. The leaders of various bids declared openly that in view of
several bomb blasts by Pak based terror groups esp. 26/11 and Pak
continuing to send terrorists across the border with no serious
attempt to solve the issue, Indian population apprehend the safety of
the Pak players if they visit India.
If an incident like Srilanka team attacked in Lahore, happens in
India by same Taliban or Al Quaeda, not only the IPL but GOI would be
held totally accountable for such probable tragedy and blamed by Pak
Govt.
The bidders hence avoided any Pak player, though GOI favoured their
inclusion by issue of visa-s all of them including those outside the
Country then.
3. Pakistan has the habit of over-reacting to situations to blame
India. One of the participants in TV discussions stated, when Pak
Govt has consistently been denying Dawood Ibrahoim's presence there
though all details of his presence has been known and extending all
support/ logistics to terrorists, how could you expect Indians to
extend such invoitations risking their own lives?
4. Now Bangladesh Govt. has released the report that Mussarraf
himself visited Dhaka in 2002 and had a 1hr.30 min. discussions with
ULFA Chief in a Hotel there!! Were they discussing the belle-s in
Bangladesh?
Pak has been doing everything possible to destabilise and destroy
India since 1948 and still continues to do so. Though several
Pakistani children were operated for cardiac deformities freely in
Bangalore and regular visit and performance of musicians and artists
from Pakistan are encouraged by India, has there been any improvement
of relations?
End of forwarded article from S. Kumar
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Monday, January 25, 2010
So has Swapan Dasgupta joined the scotch drinking, psec, Hindu
bashing sickos?
End of forwarded article from S. Ram
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Monday, January 25, 2010
Cricket diplomacy will take time to yield dividends.
More players from across the world are willing to join IPL and are
making statements to endear themselves to the IPL's Indian clientele.
Mathew Hayden and Adam Gilcrist issued statements condemning the
attacks on Indians in Oz. Ponting did not make any statement but
opted out of IPL- 3.
The Shri Lankans are firmly in the Indian boat.
The Bangladeshis are making statements that no one would expect from
them two years back.
Mahmadullah considers MS Dhoni his role model.
Tamim Iqbal was lavish in his praise of Indian players and the
camaraderie between Bangla and Indian players.
Indian players (like Sachin and Zaheer) are visiting their IPL
counterpart's (Ashraful) home.
I think the IPL decision to exclude Pakistanis is good. It will
soften up the Pakistani players attitude towards India and let the
clubs read into the statements that follow the exclusion.
There are Pakistanis in IPL. Wasim Akram is the bowling coach of KKR.
India needs to weed out the antiIndians like Afridi, Shoiab Malik,
Sohail Tanvir and look for players like Shoiab Akthar and Younus
Khan.
End of forwarded article from M. W.
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Monday, January 25, 2010
I think the Pakistani players who are no doubt very professional
players, are kicking themselves for missing out all the glamour and
big money of the IPL for the simple reason that they belong to a
country that represents a criminal culture. Not only Dawood Ibrahim
but also Osama Bin Laden are their exalted tenants.
If they could they would have started a Pakistani version of PPL.but
alas they neither have the financiers nor have the international
players who would be willing to come and play in their country, for
love of cricket or money.
We can not blame the Indian sponsors for staying clear and not
bidding for their players and take the all the risks associated
security risks.
End of forwarded article from D. T.
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Monday, January 25, 2010
The decision to bar Pak players came from GOI (and not the IPL
organizers / franchisee) The primary beneficiary of the ban were
players like Md Kaif and Damyn Martin.
This is a little detour in Indian diplomacy from the days of dining
Musharraf.
Obviously Pakistan is in sticky wicket now than before, they are
reacting as anticipated.
GOI and the Pak board cleared the visit more than a month before the
auction. Something happened between then and the auction date.
Secretary Gates visited India and Pakistan during that time. Pakistan
lost a bit of leverage vs US while India gained some vs China. But
Pakistan fought India out of multinational (Pak, Iran, Turkey,
Central Asian republics) forums on Afghanistan.
India can't fight Pakistan on Islam but can do so on stability.
Bangladesh's economy & stock markets are set to boom, after Sk Hasina
took power and visited New Delhi.
Pak needs to wait longer.
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Monday, January 25, 2010
I could not believe Indians have matured so much as to exclude
Pakistan players from IPL.
Like they say "der ast, durust ast".
There is no need for anyone to shed tears for the exclusion of
Pakistan players from IPL. It should have been done long time ago.
India has been victim of Pak terrorism since even before partition
took place. The first act of terrorism in the name of partition took
place in Calcutta in 1946. That should have sent alarm signals to all
right thinking Hindus. IF that was not enough then the massacres in
Punjab and Sindh should have sealed the public opinion. The issues of
kashmir and present day terrorism should have never been allowed to
take roots.
Hindus in India don't owe anything to Pakistan. It is they who wanted
a separate nation -- they got what they wanted. Now what do they have
to do with India. While they are crying over exclusion of their
players, even today Indian films are officially banned in Pakistan.
Why is Indian media shedding tears over this episode? What they
should be discussing is Pakistan's duplicity.
Pakistan can keep its players, singers, poets, writers and terrorists
within its borders -- India will be fine without them.
End of forwarded article from V. K.
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Monday, January 25, 2010
"A Pakistani court served notices on the federal government and the
national association of film producers seeking their response to a
petition seeking a ban on the exhibition of Indian films to protest
the exclusion of Pakistani cricketers from the IPL."
- A news report in Times of India.
When did Pakistan remove ban in screening Indian films in Pakistan? I
know for along time Indian Films were banned there though they were
available widely on videos.
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Monday, January 25, 2010
<<<<< The decision to bar Pak players came from GOI (and not
the IPL organizers / franchisee) >>>>>
With the Cengress ruling in Rajsthan and defeating Mody in the State
Cricket Board by fielding a Congress Minister against him, do you
expect the Congress led UPA Govt. could make Mody toe their line?
Still the undercurrents cannot be ruled out.
But the bidders have clearly stated that apprehensions of security of
the Pak. players in the light of Bus bombing of Srilanka team and
likely repetition of the same by sleeper cells of LeT and Taliban in
India, has been the main factor influencing such decision not to bid
fo Pak players.
End of forwarded article from S. K.
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Monday, January 25, 2010
There were specific bids on Abdur Razzak, Kamran Akhmal and Shahid
Afridi from the franchisees. There were replaced by Shane Bond, Md.
Kaif and Damyn Martin at the last minute.
The directive came from MEA.
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Monday, January 25, 2010
V. K. raises an important issue.
In a programme "Hard Talk" (BBC, July 28, 1999), Dilip Kumar
justified the ban of Hindi films in Pakistan on the grounds that the
industry in that country needs time to come up to the standards of
the Indian films.
At the same time he claims that the highest civilian award given to
him by the Pakistan government was for his artistic capability.
I do not think the ban has been lifted, to the best of my knowledge.
End of forwarded article from A. C.
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Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Pakistani theatre owners lobbied for a lifting of the ban, because
most people watch pirated Indian videos at home and the theatres go
empty. A few Indian movies were granted permission during Musharraf's
last days in office.
India is too big a market and too good a brand for Pakistanis to
ignore. By the law of market forces they would be consumuing the best
product in the neighbourhood and working in the best paying
profession.
The only products that get past border security are e-content -
movies and cricket matches.
Its in Indian interest to get more Paksitani players and movies stars
working in India. In the short term, it will invoke an interest in
Indian product lines. In the long term, the role models of Pakistani
society will make themselves marketable by speaking good about India.
Isn't that what the trackII diplomats want?
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Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Dear Friends,
Our respected Home minister has been talking to the congress media
like the NDTV and all upa chamcha stations by saying that the IPL
people have not respected the pak cricketers who are one of the best.
He says it is an injustice to the game of cricket! what nonsense, how
can the game of cricket be more important than how the people of
India feel about the folks from Pakistan? How about the sentiments of
the family killed in various pak sponsered terrorism in India? Now
every week we see the security forces fighting in wars in kashmir.
Indian FM makes tough statements and the PAK responds with total
disregard.
when did the Pak players have an absolute right to play in india?
we are better off with out having any sports links with enemy
countries!
Let the PAK players go and play in UK and make money. What if some
crazy terrorist attacks some buses, or hotels housing the cricketers?
IPL will go to dogs and the terrorism will win hands down. will
India have to ask permission from PAk for any major event In India.?
Well the common wealth games are coming. Let us see how mr MAC and
his team manage and protect all. There will be 100 plus pak
particcipants and thousands would be illegal immigarnts! for these
UPA guys, islam, muslims, pakistan and their vote bank politics are
all interlinked. they care a damn what happens to a country known as
hindustan or Bharat.
End of forwarded article from D. G.
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Tuesday, January 26, 2010
how would it be in india's interest to promote papistani artistes
when we have millions of non working hindus artists right here?
there are plenty of jihadi artists working in indian movies thanks to
dawood bhaijaan and his funding
Feeding a snake with milk increases its venom, no nectar is
produced. - Chanakya
End of forwarded article from D. S.
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Tuesday, January 26, 2010
it is under this home minister that for the first time in the history
of india, republic day flag hoisting was not held at lal chowk in
shrinagar in kashmir, wilting to the threats of terrorists holed up
somewhere nearby!!
instead of ensuring the sovereignty of the country by getting the
flag hoisted at lal chowk, home minister is busy appeasing muslims
and pakistani-s on such insignifica matters of governance of the
country!!
has the upa-ii/ goi yielded to the terrorists agains as in 1990?
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Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Pakistan is a big market.
Today IPL is tying up with Google to telecast live all over. No
state/Doordarshan control.
Tomorrow the same will happen with movies.
Banning Pak players do not make any economic sense for IPL. They did
it under directives from MEA.
If the superstars of Pak moviedom migrate to India, there won't be
any Pak moviedom and a bger client base for Indian movies/ songs. If
moviestars are other Pak role models speak positively on India, RAW
can focus on other mission critical initiatives.
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Tuesday, January 26, 2010
very short sighted point of view
the goal should be to keep out jihadis from anything with the label
indian
indian culture was not created by jihadis
in fact for the last 1400 years t hey have tried to wipe it off the
map of the world
hindu culture should be controlled by hindus at all t ime so that
jihadis do not end up potraying hindu women as prostitutes whose goal
is to entertain jihadi men
thinking like rana pratap will not make us victorius
jihadis are good at doing just one thing - jihad
let them keep doing that
there is no need for garbage jihadis like AR Rahman to take credit
for hindu music and pretend it is the contribution of jihadis
harmony
his article. but the article has paki finish where he seemingly castigates
indian action. what the heck is meant by ".... arouse further hatred of
(india)?" mr. dasgupta, what hatred could possibly go beyond terror-killing
when you speak of further hatred? and you are wrong; usa did not lose
goodwill because of homeland security. au contraire, mr. dasgupta. the world
applauded usa for not allowing next attack on american soil. indians only
could wish for such a dicisive action. it was the iraq war that lost usa its
goodwill, not the homeland security. are you not smart enough to see that?
quite unlike you, no american scribe advocated inviting al quaida volleyball
team to visit usa. a good article that went kaput.
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