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Jan 28, 2010, 3:03:01 AM1/28/10
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In article <335074dc-8ff3-44d6...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
Mirza Ghalib <mgha...@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> "Badi Mushkil hai, Ajab mera Dil hai, na jaane kise chahe, na jaane
> kise dhoondhey"
>
> From the picture "Chingari" (around 1955)
>
> After a long search I found this Lata oldie at the following address
>
> http://www.in.com/music/chingari/songs-61891.html

Good find. Allow me to translate it for those who don't
know the language:

It is very difficult. Strange is my heart, neither does it
know how to desire someone, nor does it know how to find someone.

I have corrected Lata ji's last name in the Subject header.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

Mirza Ghalib

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Jan 29, 2010, 2:08:05 AM1/29/10
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On Jan 28, 12:03 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <335074dc-8ff3-44d6-8291-9e73913e2...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
>  Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:

>
>
>
> > "Badi Mushkil hai, Ajab mera Dil hai, na jaane kise chahe, na jaane
> > kise dhoondhey"
>
> > From the picture "Chingari" (around 1955)
>
> > After a long search I found this Lata oldie at the following address
>
> >http://www.in.com/music/chingari/songs-61891.html
>
> Good find. Allow me to translate it for those who don't
> know the language:
>
> It is very difficult. Strange is my heart, neither does it
> know how to desire someone, nor does it know how to find someone.
>
> I have corrected Lata ji's last name in the Subject header.
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti

Thanks for the correction. There is no reference to this film
at the customary places, such as IMDB. Even a search
under google did not locate it. Perhaps it was a megaflop
or was not released at all. In any case, the cast and
crew were as follows:

Year produced: 1954
Producer: CO. OP. PICS.
Director: S.SHRIWASTAWA
Music: MANOHAR
Cast: NALINI JAYWANT, SHEKHAR, PRAN, LEELA MISRA,
SUNALINI DEVI.

Mirza Ghalib

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Jan 29, 2010, 2:26:46 AM1/29/10
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On Jan 28, 12:03 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <335074dc-8ff3-44d6-8291-9e73913e2...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
> Om Shanti

And the lyrics were written by the great Shailendra.

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Jan 29, 2010, 3:41:36 AM1/29/10
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In article <d2b4459a-bf98-4150...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
Mirza Ghalib <mgha...@yahoo.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

> > In article <335074dc-8ff3-44d6-8291-9e73913e2...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.=
> com>,
> > =A0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:


> >
> >
> >
> > > "Badi Mushkil hai, Ajab mera Dil hai, na jaane kise chahe, na jaane
> > > kise dhoondhey"
> >
> > > From the picture "Chingari" (around 1955)
> >
> > > After a long search I found this Lata oldie at the following address
> >
> > >http://www.in.com/music/chingari/songs-61891.html

> > Good find. Allow me to translate it for those who don't
> > know the language:
> >
> > It is very difficult. Strange is my heart, neither does it
> > know how to desire someone, nor does it know how to find someone.
> >
> > I have corrected Lata ji's last name in the Subject header.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti

> Thanks for the correction. There is no reference to this film
> at the customary places, such as IMDB. Even a search
> under google did not locate it. Perhaps it was a megaflop
> or was not released at all. In any case, the cast and
> crew were as follows:
>
> Year produced: 1954
> Producer: CO. OP. PICS.
> Director: S.SHRIWASTAWA
> Music: MANOHAR
> Cast: NALINI JAYWANT, SHEKHAR, PRAN, LEELA MISRA,
> SUNALINI DEVI.

One web site lists the producer as Corporate Pictures and the release
date as Saturday, January 1, 1955. But it is difficult to visualize
a flop with Pran in it. A friend who passed on recently was a
walking Filmfare and imdb rolled into one. He would bug everyone
with his favorite trivia question: in how many films did Pran not
play and villain and which ones? Who would want to see a film in
which he played any other role!

and/or www.mantra.com/jai

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Jan 29, 2010, 4:04:14 AM1/29/10
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In article <a03e9f43-8b71-4af6...@w27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Mirza Ghalib <mgha...@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> And the lyrics were written by the great Shailendra.

, , , the great.
Cue up a song by Mukesh ji.

Mirza Ghalib

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Jan 29, 2010, 11:51:34 AM1/29/10
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On Jan 29, 12:41 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <d2b4459a-bf98-4150-963b-65660dd15...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
>  Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:

As for Badi Mushki song, just enjoy the absolutely flawless
rendering by Lataji. And the wordings by Shailendra, depicting
the conflicts in a young maiden's mind leaving adolescence
and entering youth Very beautiful.

Re Pran, one that I can recall was Aah (1953), where Pran played
the role of Rajkapoor's doctor friend. Rajkapoor's character
discovers he is going to die of TB in a short time, but he
hides that fact from Nargis's character, and persuades
Pran's character to marry her.

The other I recall was a comedy type, named "Do Jasoos",
(mid 70s) or something like that. I remember the last scene
in which one of them (as a comic sequence) is seen
walking in a Burqa.

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Jan 29, 2010, 3:13:21 PM1/29/10
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In article <d35e7b50-f50f-4028...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
Mirza Ghalib <mgha...@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > In article <d2b4459a-bf98-4150-963b-65660dd15...@b1g2000prc.googlegroups.=

> com>,
> > =A0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > > In article <335074dc-8ff3-44d6-8291-9e73913e2...@b1g2000prc.googlegro=
> ups.=3D
> > > com>,
> > > > =3DA0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:

> >
> > > > > "Badi Mushkil hai, Ajab mera Dil hai, na jaane kise chahe, na jaane
> > > > > kise dhoondhey"
> >
> > > > > From the picture "Chingari" (around 1955)
> >
> > > > > After a long search I found this Lata oldie at the following addres=

> s
> >
> > > > >http://www.in.com/music/chingari/songs-61891.html
> > > > Good find. Allow me to translate it for those who don't
> > > > know the language:
> >
> > > > It is very difficult. Strange is my heart, neither does it
> > > > know how to desire someone, nor does it know how to find someone.
> >
> > > > I have corrected Lata ji's last name in the Subject header.
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> > > Thanks for the correction. There is no reference to this film
> > > at the customary places, such as IMDB. Even a search
> > > under google did not locate it. Perhaps it was a megaflop
> > > or was not released at all. In any case, the cast and
> > > crew were as follows:
> >
> > > Year produced: 1954
> > > Producer: CO. OP. PICS.
> > > Director: S.SHRIWASTAWA
> > > Music: MANOHAR
> > > Cast: NALINI JAYWANT, SHEKHAR, PRAN, LEELA MISRA,
> > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0SUNALINI DEVI.

> >
> > One web site lists the producer as Corporate Pictures and the release
> > date as Saturday, January 1, 1955. =A0But it is difficult to visualize
> > a flop with Pran in it. =A0A friend who passed on recently was a
> > walking Filmfare and imdb rolled into one. =A0He would bug everyone

> > with his favorite trivia question: in how many films did Pran not
> > play a villain and which ones? Who would want to see a film in

> > which he played any other role!
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> As for Badi Mushki song, just enjoy the absolutely flawless
> rendering by Lataji. And the wordings by Shailendra, depicting
> the conflicts in a young maiden's mind leaving adolescence
> and entering youth Very beautiful.
>
> Re Pran, one that I can recall was Aah (1953), where Pran played
> the role of Rajkapoor's doctor friend. Rajkapoor's character
> discovers he is going to die of TB in a short time, but he
> hides that fact from Nargis's character, and persuades
> Pran's character to marry her.
>
> The other I recall was a comedy type, named "Do Jasoos",
> (mid 70s) or something like that. I remember the last scene
> in which one of them (as a comic sequence) is seen
> walking in a Burqa.

Pran in a scene from "Do Jasoos":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cHdVomdjAM

I don't recall if Pran smoked a cigarette in the doctor role in
"Aah", nor think that his non-villain roles did him good or the
films at the box office.

bharat

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Jan 29, 2010, 11:27:10 PM1/29/10
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On Jan 30, 1:13 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <d35e7b50-f50f-4028-ae3c-19dd17e4c...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,

films at the box office- Jai maharaj -Jyotioshi OS.
You seem to have forgotten UPKAAR

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Jan 29, 2010, 11:55:33 PM1/29/10
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In article <6e9ec18a-4a79-4d85...@f17g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
bharat <shu...@gmail.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <d35e7b50-f50f-4028-ae3c-19dd17e4c...@k5g2000pra.googlegroups.=

> com>,
> > =A0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > > In article <d2b4459a-bf98-4150-963b-65660dd15...@b1g2000prc.googlegro=

> ups.=3D
> > > com>,
> > > > =3DA0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > > > > > In article <335074dc-8ff3-44d6-8291-9e73913e2...@b1g2000prc.googl=
> egro=3D
> > > ups.=3D3D
> > > > > com>,
> > > > > > =3D3DA0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:
> >
> > > > > > > "Badi Mushkil hai, Ajab mera Dil hai, na jaane kise chahe, na j=

> aane
> > > > > > > kise dhoondhey"
> >
> > > > > > > From the picture "Chingari" (around 1955)
> >
> > > > > > > After a long search I found this Lata oldie at the following ad=
> dres=3D

> > > s
> >
> > > > > > >http://www.in.com/music/chingari/songs-61891.html
> > > > > > Good find. Allow me to translate it for those who don't
> > > > > > know the language:
> >
> > > > > > It is very difficult. Strange is my heart, neither does it
> > > > > > know how to desire someone, nor does it know how to find someone.
> >
> > > > > > I have corrected Lata ji's last name in the Subject header.
> >
> > > > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > > > Om Shanti
> > > > > Thanks for the correction. There is no reference to this film
> > > > > at the customary places, such as IMDB. Even a search
> > > > > under google did not locate it. Perhaps it was a megaflop
> > > > > or was not released at all. In any case, the cast and
> > > > > crew were as follows:
> >
> > > > > Year produced: 1954
> > > > > Producer: CO. OP. PICS.
> > > > > Director: S.SHRIWASTAWA
> > > > > Music: MANOHAR
> > > > > Cast: NALINI JAYWANT, SHEKHAR, PRAN, LEELA MISRA,
> > > > > =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0SUNALINI DEVI.

> >
> > > > One web site lists the producer as Corporate Pictures and the release
> > > > date as Saturday, January 1, 1955. =3DA0But it is difficult to visual=
> ize
> > > > a flop with Pran in it. =3DA0A friend who passed on recently was a
> > > > walking Filmfare and imdb rolled into one. =3DA0He would bug everyone

> > > > with his favorite trivia question: in how many films did Pran not
> > > > play a villain and which ones? Who would want to see a film in
> > > > which he played any other role!
> >
> > > > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > > > Om Shanti
> >
> > > As for Badi Mushki song, just enjoy the absolutely flawless
> > > rendering by Lataji. And the wordings by Shailendra, depicting
> > > the conflicts in a young maiden's mind leaving adolescence
> > > and entering youth =A0Very beautiful.

> >
> > > Re Pran, one that I can recall was Aah (1953), where Pran played
> > > the role of Rajkapoor's doctor friend. Rajkapoor's character
> > > discovers he is going to die of TB in a short time, but he
> > > hides that fact from Nargis's character, and persuades
> > > Pran's character to marry her.
> >
> > > The other I recall was a comedy type, named "Do Jasoos",
> > > (mid 70s) or something like that. I remember the last scene
> > > in which one of them (as a comic sequence) is seen
> > > walking in a Burqa.
> >
> > Pran in a scene from "Do Jasoos":http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-cHdVom=

> djAM
> >
> > I don't recall if Pran smoked a cigarette in the doctor role in
> > "Aah", nor think that his non-villain roles did him good or the
> > films at the box office. - Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi

> You seem to have forgotten UPKAAR

Yes (elderly, lots of information in the brain cells,
slower-than-before seek time -- but no dementia). "Upkaar"
was a launchpad onto different types of roles for Pran.

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