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Valentine's Day 'leads to free sex'

9News
Sunday, February 14, 2010

Muslim leaders in Indonesia have told the faithful not to celebrate
Valentine's Day because it is sinful and leads to "free sex".

"We forbid Muslims to celebrate Valentine's Day," said Abdullah
Cholil, an East Java leader of Nahdlatul Ulama, the mainly Muslim
country's biggest Islamic organisation.

"The day is often celebrated by young, unmarried people. They
celebrate Valentine's Day by holding hands or having free sex, which
they are not supposed to be doing," he said.

Lalilurrahman, the East Java branch chief of the country's highest
Islamic body, the Indonesian Ulema Council, said the celebration of
romance and love was a Western tradition and therefore should not
interest Muslims.

"Valentine's Day originated from Western culture. It's not in
accordance with Islamic and Eastern culture," he said.

Shopping centres in Indonesia's major cities are decked out with
Valentine's Day gift offerings as well as displays marking Chinese
New Year.

Most Indonesians are moderate Muslims, and few pay much attention to
the moral edicts of local Islamic leaders.

More at:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=1012149

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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Are you saying that young unmarried people don't do free sex on any
other day except on Valentine Day?

Do you think young unmarried people wait until Valentine Day to have
free sex? How old are you? LOL

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No, I am not the author of the article.

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In article <41128994-2572-4966...@s36g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Bang Adil <Bang...@aol.com> posted:

>
> Are you saying that young unmarried people don't do free sex on any
> other day except on Valentine Day?
>
> Do you think young unmarried people wait until Valentine Day to have
> free sex? How old are you? LOL

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

>
> > Valentine's Day 'leads to free sex'
> >
> > 9News
> > Sunday, February 14, 2010
> >
> > Muslim leaders in Indonesia have told the faithful not to celebrate
> > Valentine's Day because it is sinful and leads to "free sex".
> >
> > "We forbid Muslims to celebrate Valentine's Day," said Abdullah
> > Cholil, an East Java leader of Nahdlatul Ulama, the mainly Muslim
> > country's biggest Islamic organisation.
> >
> > "The day is often celebrated by young, unmarried people. They
> > celebrate Valentine's Day by holding hands or having free sex, which
> > they are not supposed to be doing," he said.
> >
> > Lalilurrahman, the East Java branch chief of the country's highest
> > Islamic body, the Indonesian Ulema Council, said the celebration of
> > romance and love was a Western tradition and therefore should not
> > interest Muslims.
> >
> > "Valentine's Day originated from Western culture. It's not in
> > accordance with Islamic and Eastern culture," he said.
> >
> > Shopping centres in Indonesia's major cities are decked out with
> > Valentine's Day gift offerings as well as displays marking Chinese
> > New Year.
> >
> > Most Indonesians are moderate Muslims, and few pay much attention to
> > the moral edicts of local Islamic leaders.
> >

> > More at:http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=3D1012149


> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
> >

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DM

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Feb 13, 2010, 10:53:21 PM2/13/10
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> Muslim leaders in Indonesia have told the faithful not to celebrate
> Valentine's Day because it is sinful and leads to "free sex".

Whats wrong with free sex?
Most people support the concept.
Its fee-for-service sex that draws the most criticism.

DM

harmony

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Feb 13, 2010, 10:55:44 PM2/13/10
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on v day they feel encouraged, contributing to problem.
a lot of unwanted teen pregnancy is v's fault - and poeple like you for
helping commericalize it.

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"Bang Adil", writes the poster. One woners if this Adil is underage or
suffering from VD.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b777444$0$12432$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:

>
> on v day they feel encouraged, contributing to problem.
> a lot of unwanted teen pregnancy is v's fault - and poeple like you for
> helping commericalize it.

> "Bang Adil" <Bang...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:41128994-2572-4966...@s36g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
>
> Are you saying that young unmarried people don't do free sex on any
> other day except on Valentine Day?
>
> Do you think young unmarried people wait until Valentine Day to have
> free sex? How old are you? LOL

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

Bang Adil

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Feb 13, 2010, 11:29:11 PM2/13/10
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On Feb 13, 7:53 pm, DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote:
> > Muslim leaders in Indonesia have told the faithful not to celebrate
> > Valentine's Day because it is sinful and leads to "free sex".
>
> Whats wrong with free sex?
> Most people support the concept.

I don't support free sex. I usually buy her dinner first, take her to
the movie, and those are not free.

Bang Adil

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Feb 13, 2010, 11:45:14 PM2/13/10
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On Feb 13, 7:55 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> on v day they feel encouraged,

I felt encouraged every day, and not only on Valentine day. When she
looks good, smells good and make certain
gestures that can only mean one thing, do you think I have to get a
PhD degree to know what to do next?

Valentine day has nothing to do with with what you or I want to do
after dark...

contributing to problem.
> a lot of unwanted teen pregnancy is v's fault - and poeple like you for
> helping commericalize it.
>

> "Bang Adil" <BangA...@aol.com> wrote in message

DM

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On Feb 14, 2:29 pm, Bang Adil <BangA...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 13, 7:53 pm, DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote:
>
> > > Muslim leaders in Indonesia have told the faithful not to celebrate
> > > Valentine's Day because it is sinful and leads to "free sex".
>
> > Whats wrong with free sex?
> > Most people support the concept.
>
> I don't support free sex. I usually buy her dinner first, take her to
> the movie, and those are not free.

Why isn't she paying her own way?
Sounds like fee-for-service to me.

DM

Kopral Johnny

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Maharaj) wrote in
news:20100213Oh81ZUJ868n188Sf7Jzf901@JlEOx:

then how come long before St Valentine Days firstly ever
celebrated, but this so-called paedophil prophet 'Mo and
his followers had so oftenly practised Free Sex with their
female slaves ... and even goats ???

not to mention this teaching of 72 virgins with big boobs
are waiting for you in heaven, so ready to get f*^ked ???

what's the explanation to that ??? still blaming the
Valentine ?

Kopral Johnny

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DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:8ec9216f-7c3b-47d4-
bbf6-a3b...@z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

there is NO free lunch ( except maybe at yr parents'
house)

Kopral Johnny

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"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4b777444$0$12432
$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net:

> on v day they feel encouraged, contributing to problem.
> a lot of unwanted teen pregnancy is v's fault - and
poeple like you for
> helping commericalize it.

then you should blame Qoran as well, with its nikah-siri
teaching, logically speaking :) LOL

you can have (free) sex with as many women as you like
as long as you can afford it financially and of course you
would need to have this one piece of paper called Surat
Nikah, period !

DM

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On Feb 14, 4:16 pm, Kopral Johnny <kopral_joh...@ggmail.com> wrote:
> DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:8ec9216f-7c3b-47d4-
> bbf6-a3bbe0893...@z10g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

My sex has always been free.
If you expect to pay for yours, perhaps you are doing it wrong.

DM

Kopral Johnny

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DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:b60273ee-951a-434e-
8c61-09b...@p13g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

> My sex has always been free.
>

of course, since you wank all the time ! LOL

Roniora

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damn.... where is the world coming to at,nowadays? whats wrong with
free sex? young or old ? as long as they ain't cheating on their loved
ones, i don't think its anything unfair. besides, who the fuck are
these motherfucking faggots to govern the free will of people and term
this as western wrongdoings that corrupt the world? its all in
perception.

beauty lies in the eyes of the beholders.
and so i think terming premarital sex as wrong or sin lies in the
perception of the doer. don't do it if u don't feel its good. but
don't go preaching like a saint

instead, look upto more pressing issues like women's rights in
afghanistan, etc kind of countries..
why all the barbarism i simple for the life of me can't understand

harmony

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Feb 14, 2010, 5:54:45 PM2/14/10
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v-d is to teen pregnancy what the marlboro man does for lung cancer.
time for the national hiv institute to come out against v-day like the
national cancer institute has come out against smoking.
you wouldn't want v-day any more than you would want a national smoking day.


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DM

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On Feb 14, 6:08 pm, Kopral Johnny <kopral_joh...@ggmail.com> wrote:
> DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:b60273ee-951a-434e-
> 8c61-09bc7346a...@p13g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

>
> > My sex has always been free.
>
> of course, since you wank all the time ! LOL

Studies show that 90% of men masturbate, and that 10% of men lie in
surveys.
You'd be one of the 10% I'd wager.

DM

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Unfortunately, there is a National Smoking Day:

http://takingliberties.squarespace.com/taking-liberties/2010/1/27/national-smoking-day-wtf.html

but I get your point.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b787f37$0$12446$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:

>
> v-d is to teen pregnancy what the marlboro man does for lung cancer.
> time for the national hiv institute to come out against v-day like the
> national cancer institute has come out against smoking.
> you wouldn't want v-day any more than you would want a national smoking day.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

Kopral Johnny

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DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:e23d68f5-2ead-4ebd-
a3cd-d1d...@u19g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

dont push your luck , LOL

DM

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On Feb 16, 2:49 am, Kopral Johnny <kopral_joh...@ggmail.com> wrote:
> DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:e23d68f5-2ead-4ebd-
> a3cd-d1d03e84e...@u19g2000prh.googlegroups.com:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 14, 6:08 pm, Kopral Johnny <kopral_joh...
> @ggmail.com> wrote:
> >> DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:b60273ee-951a-
> 434e-
> >> 8c61-09bc7346a...@p13g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>
> >> > My sex has always been free.
>
> >> of course, since you wank all the time ! LOL
>
> > Studies show that 90% of men masturbate, and that 10% of
> men lie in
> > surveys.
> > You'd be one of the 10% I'd wager.
>
> > DM
>
> dont push your luck , LOL

Don't tell me you are one of the 10% of blokes who prefer having sex
with other blokes?
No wonder you have to pay women for it. Why do you bother?

DM

Kopral Johnny

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DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:e96e755f-e601-4bf9-
9312-453...@v20g2000prb.googlegroups.com:

> On Feb 16, 2:49�am, Kopral Johnny <kopral_joh...
@ggmail.com> wrote:
>> DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:e23d68f5-2ead-


4ebd-
>> a3cd-d1d03e84e...@u19g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Feb 14, 6:08�pm, Kopral Johnny <kopral_joh...
>> @ggmail.com> wrote:
>> >> DM <d-m...@adfa.edu.au> wrote in news:b60273ee-951a-
>> 434e-
>> >> 8c61-09bc7346a...@p13g2000pre.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> >> > My sex has always been free.
>>
>> >> of course, since you wank all the time ! LOL
>>
>> > Studies show that 90% of men masturbate, and that 10%
of
>> men lie in
>> > surveys.
>> > You'd be one of the 10% I'd wager.
>>
>> > DM
>>
>> dont push your luck , LOL
>
> Don't tell me you are one of the 10% of blokes who
prefer having sex
> with other blokes?
> No wonder you have to pay women for it. Why do you
bother?
>
> DM
>

there's no free lunch , back to square one

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