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Jan 8, 2010, 1:28:38 AM1/8/10
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Among other leaders, Mahatma Gandhi had the incredibly huge task of
uniting the Bharatiya population against the British barbarians. He,
Subhash Chandr Bose, who gave the title of "Mahatma" to Gandhiji, and
others were obviously successful in uniting Hindus and others for
the mission. "Eeshwar allah tero naam" was task-specific.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b464197$0$5362$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> would the modern generation take responsibility for its own afairs, or would
> it
> persist in blaming their forebears? to gandhi's credit, he did not blame his
> forebears
> for the ills of his time.
>
>
> "Athish Ravikanth" <athishr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:08b59752-658e-47d8...@34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
> > Jai Hind,
> >
> > Fortunately Gandhi died on January 30, 1948 at the hands of Godse,
> > otherwise, if he lived longer, his love for Muslims would have created
> > more problems for India. We would have been nourshing independant
> > states Hyderabad and Junagarh, besides J&K. Gandhi and Nehru would not
> > have allowed police action and Sardar Patel would have been faded
> > into history.
> >
> > As a matter of fact Godse did more service for Hindus than what
> > Gandhi, who made Hindus chant 'Ishwar Allah tero naam', but not a
> > single Muslim is ever heard of singing it. Both Gandhi and Nehru are
> > the culprits for Hindus since they were instrumental in making the
> > Muslims as equal partners in truncated India where they are now
> > demanding preferential rights.
> >
> > It is ungratefulness that under the false notions of secularism
> > Hindus have forgotten the martyerdom of Godse who sacrificed his life
> > for our motherland.
> >
> >
> > Jai Hind
> > Athish Ravikanth
> > 9379030409, 9945969917
> > http://groups.google.co.in/group/bharat-jagruti-morcha?hl=en
>
>

harmony

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:38:15 PM1/8/10
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well put.
it is not easy for many to comprehend the maze through which the indian
leaders had to navigate india into freedom. their steadfastness, patience,
foresight, virtuosity, political savvy against an politically gifted brits,
faith in their cause and in themselves despite severely limited means are
indeed exemplary. they leave a legacy of public ethics and morals the
civilized world still gets goosebumps out of, and one that it tries emulate
and falls short; some fall so flat they are called congressis.


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Jan 8, 2010, 6:47:12 PM1/8/10
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You are correct about Congressees. They are GINO (Gandhians In Name Only).
How many GINOs does it take to change a light bulb?
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None. They can see neither the light nor the bulb.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b47c1ea$0$5351$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:

>
> well put.
> it is not easy for many to comprehend the maze through which the indian
> leaders had to navigate india into freedom. their steadfastness, patience,
> foresight, virtuosity, political savvy against an politically gifted brits,
> faith in their cause and in themselves despite severely limited means are
> indeed exemplary. they leave a legacy of public ethics and morals the
> civilized world still gets goosebumps out of, and one that it tries emulate
> and falls short; some fall so flat they are called congressis.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

Seon Ferguson

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Jan 8, 2010, 6:50:38 PM1/8/10
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Yep Gandhi said Brittan should surrender to the Nazi's. That shows his true
colors.

P. Rajah

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Jan 11, 2010, 4:53:23 PM1/11/10
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harmony

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Jan 13, 2010, 11:57:50 AM1/13/10
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say what? sure you are not confused?
ww2 experts inform that millions of worried brits were for peaceful
surrender after the fall of france and as the luftwaves were bearing down
ferociously on britain. the operating thinking was that hitler actually
loved britain and would not inflict terrible damage if there was a
surrender.


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bringyagrogalong

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Jan 14, 2010, 5:22:25 AM1/14/10
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"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Yep Gandhi said Brittan should surrender to the Nazi's.

It's fortunate that Edward VIII was no longer king, because he would
have taken him up on it.

Krudd the Dud

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Jan 14, 2010, 6:51:12 PM1/14/10
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:22:25 -0800 (PST), bringyagrogalong
<sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:

>> Yep Gandhi said Brittan should surrender to the Nazi's.
>
>It's fortunate that Edward VIII was no longer king, because he would
>have taken him up on it.

Changed your tune, have you?

No longer a Nazi sympathiser?

Mirza Ghalib

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Jan 15, 2010, 12:13:04 AM1/15/10
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Read this article before you give Gandhi a clean chit.

http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/fascism/gandhimistake.html

Seon Ferguson

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"bringyagrogalong" <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
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I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. But I didn't realise the king had
that kind of powers back then.

bringyagrogalong

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Jan 15, 2010, 7:33:17 AM1/15/10
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Krudd the Dud <never.had.a.woman...@loser.com> waffled:

> bringyagrogalong <sof...@aapt.net.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yep Gandhi said Brittan should surrender to the Nazi's.
>
> > It's fortunate that Edward VIII was no longer king, because he would
> > have taken him up on it.
>
> Changed your tune, have you?
>
> No longer a Nazi sympathiser?

How can someone who credits Stalin and the communists for destroying
the stinking scourge of Nazism be a Nazi sympathiser.

Have you got a screw loose?

harmony

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Jan 15, 2010, 1:07:10 PM1/15/10
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"Mirza Ghalib" <mgha...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/fascism/gandhimistake.html>>


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you need to re-read the link you provide, dear.
your link talks about mahatma's mistakes; but it does not say he adivesd the
brits to surrender - or that if he did say it, was a mistake.

however, a lot of terrified british people did want to give in (as i
indicated above):
here is an excerpt:

On the night of 7-8 September 1940 German bombers made a night raid on
London, beginning a period of bombing of UK cities known as the Blitz that
lasted until the early summer of 1941. Until the outcome of the Battle of
Britain established British superiority in the air from October 1940, raids
on London also sometimes occurred during the day. From November 1940 other
industrial cities were targeted, such as Coventry, Birmingham, Cardiff, and
Liverpool, with occasional raids on London. About 40,000 people were killed,
and more than a million homes destroyed. Nazi leader Adolf Hitler hoped that
the repeated bombing would be so unbearable that the British people would
force Winston Churchill's government to make peace with Germany. The
government issued Morrison or Anderson shelters for protection and Londoners
spent nights crowded into the stations of the London Underground railway.
Government propaganda encouraged the spirit of struggling through and
overcoming common threats to ensure that unity was maintained. Symbolic
gestures such as King George VI and Queen Elizabeth remaining in London at
Buckingham Palace, even when it was bombed, and then touring the streets of
the capital boosted morale. Prime Minister Winston Churchill also stayed in
London, and regularly visited victims of the Blitz to help instil the
resolve to carry on. However, although most put on a brave appearance, the
people of London were terrified and many did feel like giving in.


Krudd the Dud

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Jan 16, 2010, 12:50:31 AM1/16/10
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:29:31 +1100, "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> It's fortunate that Edward VIII was no longer king, because he would
>> have taken him up on it.
>
>I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. But I didn't realise the king had
>that kind of powers back then.

He didn't.

SerGay, the undereducated fool that he is, doesn't know any better.
>

Seon Ferguson

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"Krudd the Dud" <never.make.a....@gutless.wonder.com> wrote in
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I guess some people don't study history. That power was taken away from the
king or queen of England a long time ago.

Hunter

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Jan 15, 2010, 11:04:01 PM1/15/10
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harmony wrote:
> say what? sure you are not confused?
> ww2 experts inform that millions of worried brits were for peaceful
> surrender


Was that about the same time that a shitload of gutless turncoat Indians
wet their pants and went and fought for Germany and Japan even though
both countries considered themselves as the master-races and Indians as
no more than talking dogs? And didn't they turn out to be piss-weak
against the might of the good Indians that recognised the threat that
Germany and Japan presented and wiped the floor with your shithead mates?

"Hitler's secret Indian army"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3684288.stm


Seon Ferguson

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> harmony wrote:
>> say what? sure you are not confused?
>> ww2 experts inform that millions of worried brits were for peaceful
>> surrender
>
>

I'm not sure if that was in a reply to me but if Brittan surrendered Hitler
would have killed all the Jews, gypsies and homosexuals and Brittan (and
probably the rest of the world by now) would be a fascist dictatorship where
if you criticise the government you would be sent to concentration camps. Is
that the kind of world you would prefer? Some things are worth fighting for.
WW2 was one of them. I would much rather live in a society of corrupt
politicians only looking out for their own agenda then that nightmarish one.

Hunter

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Jan 17, 2010, 12:08:33 AM1/17/10
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I'm assuming you're replying to harmony there.

Seon Ferguson

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message

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Yeah for some reason windows mail doesn't show every post to the thread.
It's annoying. And with agent I have to wait until it downloads every thread
since 2003.

Hunter

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Jan 17, 2010, 2:28:36 AM1/17/10
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The missing posts have nothing to do with your news reader (although
it's a crappy news reader!!) You're using giganews, presumably because
you're either an iinet or westnet customer. iinet had a great news
service but since they dumped it and adopted westnet's giganet
connection it's gone to shit (I'm with iinet and got the same as you
until I gave up on it). Not only will it drop a lot of posts, it will
even drop a lot of posts you send.

Try signing up with these guys, http://www.eternal-september.org/ , I
moved over to there on the advice of a bloke over in another newsgroup
and have not had a problem since, and it's free.

Seon Ferguson

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message

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Oh thanks I think you recommended it before. I will try to sign up for it so
who knows, maybe my next post will be from it (as long as you can use them
on windows mail that is)

Seon Ferguson

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"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Well I signed up, let's hope this one will download all the posts.

Hunter

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Jan 17, 2010, 4:24:41 AM1/17/10
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Seon Ferguson wrote:
> "Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> Oh thanks I think you recommended it before. I will try to sign up for
>> it so who knows, maybe my next post will be from it (as long as you
>> can use them on windows mail that is)
> Well I signed up, let's hope this one will download all the posts.


It does, it can be a little slower at times, but in general is a much
more reliable service. By the way you're still going through giganews in
this post, I take it you haven't cut over yet?

bringyagrogalong

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Jan 17, 2010, 5:16:27 AM1/17/10
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Why don't you two girls get a room.

Hunter

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Jan 17, 2010, 5:32:42 AM1/17/10
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Ahhh, and there's that pedophile-protecting stooge rearing his ugly head
again. What's the matter? The priests boot you out of their private
little club again?

harmony

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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of course, it is no cure for your ignorance.


Hunter

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Jan 18, 2010, 1:13:51 PM1/18/10
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Ignorant of your parsitic ways? Not at all, not only have I picked them
from a mile away, but so have plenty of Indians commented on them as
well. And I mean Indians, you know, people that live in India, not
parisitic life-forms like you that refuse to live in India because you
love living in the West yet fraudulantly claim to be Indian, when you'd
know less about India these days than most tourists. You're pathetic really.

harmony

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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ok now having exhibited youe ignorance some more, you have proved to be
stupid, uncouth too.


Hunter

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Jan 18, 2010, 7:10:49 PM1/18/10
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By defining what you are? Not at all you stateless parasite.

harmony

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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exhibit "n" of your stupidity.


Seon Ferguson

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"Hunter" <hunt...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message

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I still can't read Harmony's posts under the new server you recommended. But
it's no loss.

Hunter

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You're still posting from Giganews so presumably you're still reading
from Giganews? And no, you're not missing much with the parasites posts
being dropped.

harmony

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you no losses keep mounting. hunter's ignorant rants are wearing out on ya.


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is besharm arindam ko na aataa hai gaanaa, na bajaanaa |

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b60ad8e$0$12456$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>
> ye soor kidhar jee, besoor bandarjee?
>
>
> "Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:156c13b8-5496-46e3...@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 26, 6:29 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:5a1ba2be-b258-430b...@e37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jan 23, 3:41 am, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> >
> > >news:1da27dad-ba0c-4808...@u41g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jan 21, 4:06 pm, TheKeral <KalluMallu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > On 1/20/2010 12:22 AM, Mirza Ghalib wrote:
> >
> > > > > All the above writing is fine, but what did he do to save
> > > > > the Czechs from subjugation by Germany?
> >
> > > > That question is a bit unfair. Was Gandhi supposed to liberate all.
> > > > His
> > > > writings show a single purpose - to make Indians their own masters in
> > > > India, nothing more, nothing less. Gandhi's "bizarre" [your word] idea
> > > > was to achieve that aim through non-violent means. As with all people,
> > > > he did get the news from around the world and did have definite
> > > > opinions
> > > > on the goings on. But, other than proffer a prescription or two, I
> > > > don't
> > > > believe he wanted to embark on "jihad" worldwide.
> >
> > > > > Also how many Chechs read this article in "The Harijan."
> > > > > All I know there were underground operations by
> > > > > these vanquished people throughout the war. In that
> > > > > they did not use Ahinsak techniques as Gandhi wished.
> >
> > > > It does not matter whether or not the Czechs read the "Harijan," and I
> > > > don't think Gandhi went off the deep end to "convince" Czechs to
> > > > follow
> > > > his views/philosophy.
> >
> > > > The whole point of my posting the correspondence is to put paid on the
> > > > falsehood that he was some sort of closet Hitler admirer, or some sort
> > > > of coward to advocate that Britain capitulate to the Nazis. What is
> > > > pretty clear is that he distrusted (not hated) Hitler, Mussolini,
> > > > Stalin, Churchill, _and_ Roosevelt [the first three particularly so].
> >
> > > > > I have no animosity towards Gandhi. None. But I think
> > > > > his thinking was bizarre. You seem to differ. That
> > > > > is the beauty of free minds in a free society.
> >
> > > > It is not all that boolean (as in "you are with us, or you are against
> > > > us" :-) ). There are some qualities of Gandhi that are truly
> > > > admirable,
> > > > and some just plain silly/childish. He lived his life openly and
> > > > honestly, which no one can emulate these days, IMO.
> >
> > > The last bit is rubbish - there are very many people who live their
> > > lives not only openly and honestly, but also decently, without
> > > megalomania and hypocrisy.
> >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Arindam Banerjee
> >
> > > lol. jyoti basu comes to mind readily.
> > > yes, of course he lived openly and honestly.
> > > basu was openly and honestly a commie violent crook.
> > > commies are violent by definition -as are the other two m.
> > > ha hhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > Stupid bundree, did I every praise Jyoti Basu? The only good thing I
> > can thnk about him was that he graduated from Presidency College with
> > English as his major subject.
> >
> > I was talking about my family, my friends and relatives, my bosses, my
> > neighbours - each and every one of them is far more moral, decent and
> > productive than your disastrous and most incredibly indecent great-
> > unca gandi - traitor to Hindus.
> >
> > Cheers, bundree. Up your tail, swing in joy, go eat a banana.
> >
> > Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee
> > ------------
> >
> > bengal mein bandarjee nacha, kisine na dekha.
> > tum to keral ki peke nache, hai re kisne na dekha
>
> Bad effort, bundree. See below for something far better (though I am
> hardly proud of it, needless to add)
>
> - Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Pesh hai:
>
> uchcchee bundree pyaree bundree rooTha-rooThee chhore day
> jhat-pat chh-laang lugakar tu phat-a-phat foot lay
> doom ooThkar kayla khakar tu jungle-o may jhoom
> jhoom barabar jhoom ray bundurr yay raha humaara hukoom
>
>

Arindam Banerjee

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Jan 27, 2010, 7:15:47 PM1/27/10
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Oi all ye bundurrs and bundrees, hutt. Up your tails, swing in joy, go
eat bananas.

As for tunes:

"jhoom barabar jhoom ray bundree jhoom barabar jhoom"

"kaisa bundurr hai yay bundurr jai bundurr maharaj"

"uchchhee bundree pyaree bundree rooTha-rooThee cchore day"

Jo naam sumjhayy woh bundurr (ya bundree) hai.

Cheers,


Arindam (bin Einstein ban Gandi) Banerjee


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Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> is besharm arindam ko na aataa hai gaanaa, na bajaanaa |
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
>

> In article <4b60ad8e$0$12456$bbae4...@news.suddenlink.net>,


>  "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
>
>
>
>
>
> > ye soor kidhar jee, besoor bandarjee?
>

> > jhoom barabar jhoom ray bundurr yay raha humaara hukoom- Hide quoted text -

harmony

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kya kaha jaye jai maharaj ji. sharm ki baat hai ye arindam ke liye.
na to raag ka pata hai, na chhand ka.
lowg kaha kaha se tapak padte hai is pavitra sci pe.


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aapanay suchch kahaa, harmony ji |
yeh arindam kehataa hai ki naatak-vaatak jaanataa hai . . . kaisay
jaanataa hogaa jub sangeet kaa to usko koi pataa hee nahee(n)?
bungaal say baahar aakar sab kuchchh bhool gayaa bundaa, aur sci ko
bhee apavitr banaataa hai |

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

In article <4b6220d1$0$12438$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net>,
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:

>
> kya kaha jaye jai maharaj ji. sharm ki baat hai ye arindam ke liye.
> na to raag ka pata hai, na chhand ka.
> lowg kaha kaha se tapak padte hai is pavitra sci pe.

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

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