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special effects should watch the flood at the Pan Pacific Hotel in
Sinagpore. Will go to see the movie again just for that
The songs are superb especially the paisa (money) one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoAmHayKQjc&feature=fvst
Pity they left out the wet saree one !
Apparently they are going to add it to the movie next week. Mohra ,
that brilliant , also had one of these dances, by Raveena (not the tip
tip rain) but the one with Nasureedin shah deleted but you can see it
on some dvds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaR04R470hU&feature=related
Didnt see this one either, maybe its played at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjK1xgT6vTk&feature=PlayList&p=41A04C0012C276E7&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=10
Unlike most Bollywood movies , one tends to remain detached
from the antics on the screen. Maybe because there is no moral being
preached and no relative dying. Watch it for the songs and dances and
the flood.
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> � Anybody who thinks Bollywood cant match or even surpass Hollywood in
> special effects should watch the flood at the Pan Pacific Hotel in
> Sinagpore. Will go to see the movie again just for that
> � � � � Pity they left out the wet saree one !
> Apparently they are going to add it to the movie next week. Mohra ,
> that brilliant , also had one of these dances, by Raveena (not the tip
> tip rain) but the one with Nasureedin shah deleted but you can see it
> on some dvds.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaR04R470hU&feature=related
>
> � � � � Unlike most Bollywood movies , one tends to remain detached
> from the antics on the screen. Maybe because there is no moral being
> preached and no relative dying. Watch it for the songs and dances and
> the flood.
a silly laugh riot all the way. Do not watch without a shot of vodka !
michael
i have only seen one Indian film, Slumdog Millionaire. Do you know if there
are good indian films without singing, a thriller or a comedy. Something
without that weird music. I would like to try one, you see.
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ModerateMallu
> Hi, I know Bollywood is the greatest film producer on the planet today,
> but i have only seen one Indian film, Slumdog Millionaire. Do you know
> if there are good indian films without singing, a thriller or a comedy.
> Something without that weird music. I would like to try one, you see.
>
Actually songs are the most remembered things about largely forgettable
formulaic Bollywood movies. That said, I cannot think of any more than
two to three movies that did not have songs in them
(1) Ittefaq - from the late 60s/early 70s starring Rajesh Khanna and
Nanda. It was a pretty good suspense movie by Yash Chopra.
(2) Jaane Bhi Do Yaaro - from the late 80s/early 90s Naseeruddin Shah
and Ravi Baswani. Was a good satire about corruption in India, and a
real laugh riot in parts. This movie too did not have any songs
(3) Black - early 2000s starring Rani Mukherji and Amitabh Bachchan had
no more than a couple of songs in it.
(4) 27 Down - early 70s. I'm a bit hazy on the details of this movie. I
remember it had Rakhee Gulzar and Sadhu Meher.
Maybe there are more. However, 1 and 2 will meet your criteria. :-)
Even if the movie has no songs, it will still have a background score,
which might be weird.
michael
titles they reccomend over in rec.art.past-films seem to be Pather Panchali
and saalam Bombey. But i prefer easy entertainment, if possible.
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ModerateMallu
> Thank you very much! I will see if I can get hold of one of them. Other
> titles they reccomend over in rec.art.past-films seem to be Pather
> Panchali and saalam Bombey. But i prefer easy entertainment, if possible.
>
No worries. The movies (except 27 Down) that I suggested are
"mainstream," i.e., Bollywood. :-) There are not all that bad - easy
entertainment as you put it.
Pather Panchali would be considered "serious cinema." If I had my
choice, I would definitely go with Pather Panchali, and follow it up
with Satyajit Ray's "Aparajito" and "Apur Sansar." The three make up the
Apu trilogy, and represent the finest of Indian cinema (non-Hindi,
non-Bollywood). The music for the movies was scored by Pandit Ravi
Shankar. There was a brief period in the 70s/80s when good serious
movies were made in Hindi, Bengali, Malayalam, Tamil, and Kannada.
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didnt find it as funny as Life Partner which did have a moral to it
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>
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Did you make any positive influence on the vodka.
Don
> Thank you very much! I will see if I can get hold of one of them. Other
> titles they reccomend over in rec.art.past-films seem to be Pather Panchali
> and saalam Bombey. But i prefer easy entertainment, if possible.
>
>
>
>
> > On 11/28/2009 7:15 PM, michael wrote:
> >> Hi, I know Bollywood is the greatest film producer on the planet today,
> >> but i have only seen one Indian film, Slumdog Millionaire. Do you know
> >> if there are good indian films without singing, a thriller or a comedy.
> >> Something without that weird music. I would like to try one, you see.
>
> > Actually songs are the most remembered things about largely forgettable
> > formulaic Bollywood movies. That said, I cannot think of any more than two
> > to three movies that did not have songs in them
>
> > (1) Ittefaq - from the late 60s/early 70s starring Rajesh Khanna and
> > Nanda. It was a pretty good suspense movie by Yash Chopra.
>
> > (2) Jaane Bhi Do Yaaro - from the late 80s/early 90s Naseeruddin Shah and
> > Ravi Baswani. Was a good satire about corruption in India, and a real
> > laugh riot in parts. This movie too did not have any songs
>
> > (3) Black - early 2000s starring Rani Mukherji and Amitabh Bachchan had no
> > more than a couple of songs in it.
>
> > (4) 27 Down - early 70s. I'm a bit hazy on the details of this movie. I
> > remember it had Rakhee Gulzar and Sadhu Meher.
>
> > Maybe there are more. However, 1 and 2 will meet your criteria. :-)
>
> > Even if the movie has no songs, it will still have a background score,
>
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For easy entertainment and to get the real feel of Bollywood with all
its colors and entertainment, watch
1. Sangam - mid 60s
2. Padosan - late 60s
3. Jewel Thief - mid 60s
4. Sholay - mid 70s
5. Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge - mid 90s
Don't miss 4 and 5 as they are the most successful Bollywood movies
ever.
Don
ModerateMallu
Nice choices and good entertainment value for the dollar. But Michael's
constraint was that there be no songs in the movie. The narrows the
choices considerably.
The "best" movies were made in black and white in the 50s/early 60s (a
wholly biased opinion from an old fogey :-)) Lots of these movies
actually had plots. Kaaghaz ke Phool and Pyaasa by Guru Dutt were
outstanding movies from that era. Good music and songs too.
Anyways, check out the Bollywood Top25 (nice collection) published by
the Times of India in 2005
Romanise
Guru Dutt playing (adopted?) son to help mother against conniving
brothers. Remember what film it was?
Michael
if they excluded songs. The chinese movie industry, however, has managed to
produce good thrillers like Infernal Affairs and great drama films.
(However, they have had some success with spreading their annoying obsession
with Kung Fu.)In your case, however, I think that Bollywood needs to
compromise to get a bigger audience. But then again, their audience is
already huge! I will check each of your titles at Imdb.com.
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> Guru Dutt playing (adopted?) son to help mother against conniving
> brothers. Remember what film it was?
It was Sautela Bhai, I think.
Had good songs but not of good visual quality on You Tube.
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multiple costume changes showing the latest fashion , are the best
part of Bollywood movies.
That is why one can stay transfixed for two and half hours while one
goes to sleep in a Hollywood movie within an hour as its monothematic,
all tension or all comedy. Bollywood movies have a bit of everything .
Try watching the recent 'Life Partner'.
michael
that he can't imagening watching movies without songs. It's just that the
style of music is so strange to us in the west that we don't understand it.
I watched Pather Panchali (1955) by the way, and that was a great film,
although a little sad.
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Don
> Yes, I guess you are right- I have an indian friend online and he tells me
> that he can't imagening watching movies without songs. It's just that the
> style of music is so strange to us in the west that we don't understand it.
We Easterners of the world have adpated to Western movies with no
songs and not much emotions so why you people cannot do the same for
our movies. If we remove the songs/dances from our movies when what is
the difference between Eastern and Western movies. Indian movies have
songs and dance as the soul of their movies not to mention the
emotions that go with them. This is our culture and so if people of
the West want to appreciate the uniqueness of our movies and enjoy a
different genre of movies, you will need to accept the song/dance/
emotions associated with Indian cinema.
Don
>
> I watched Pather Panchali (1955) by the way, and that was a great film,
> although a little sad.
>
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>
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> > Michael songs with their double meanings , superb choreography and
> > multiple costume changes showing the latest fashion , are the best
> > part of Bollywood movies.
> > That is why one can stay transfixed for two and half hours while one
> > goes to sleep in a Hollywood movie within an hour as its monothematic,
> > all tension or all comedy. Bollywood movies have a bit of everything .
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michael
films to watch. But again, you are right. I might have been a little
disrespectful of your peculiarities. Sorry
Next, I am trying Nollywood, and you will be pleased to hear that I have
some offensive things to say about them as well.
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Don
> I didn't intend to offend any cultural pride. I was just looking for some
> films to watch. But again, you are right. I might have been a little
> disrespectful of your peculiarities. Sorry
I did not take any offense from your post. I was just debating that if
you want to see songless movies from Indian cinema and i mean you are
interested in Bollywood in particular, then you are just wasting your
time. Bollywood's brand is song/dance/emotions/comedy all in one.
There are many movies in India made without songs but that comes under
the genre of serious parallel cinema. But if you are interested in
only entertainment as provided by Bollywood, you need to accept the
unique aspect of Bollywood which is escapist entertainment cinema with
all the songs, dances and melodrama. Appreciate this aspect of
Bollywood and you will start enjoying these movies.
Don
>
> Next, I am trying Nollywood, and you will be pleased to hear that I have
> some offensive things to say about them as well.
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and its not so rythmic or predictable as Western music and that makes
it much more enjoyable.