SRIDEVI RULES INDIAN CINEMA
Muqudar
She is the best thing that has happened to Indian Cinema... She has the
best talent, best dancing abilities, best face, best eyes, best VOICE
(yes, she sounds nice), Best Smile (look at her in Ram Avitar), Best
personality... no overacting; no underacting....good hit songs unlike...
Madhuri (Chole ke Peche... and Dakh Dakh Karne Laga)... Lamhe... no one
could have done a better job than her in that movie... Madhuri would have
flopped...having known the fact that Lamhe was a flop in India... I
believe that it was not because of her acting it became a flop... it was
because India was not ready to accept that story... (by the way wonderful
dancing and acting in Lamhe)... Nagina... EXCEPTIONAL!!!!!!! Look at her
dance there... now Madhuri can't even come close!!!!!! Laadla, Lamhe,
Chaandni, Judaai... look at all of the different roles Sridevi has done...
she has proven herself in all of them!!! She has even proven herself in
outrageous movies such as Nagina and Chandramukhi....She has talent and
experience.... Sridevi did not become popular like Madhuri did... Sridevi
didn't do dance numbers like that from Teezab, Khalnayak, Beta... you
don't see Sridevi doing that... Sridevi became popular because of
heartwarming movies like Lamhe, and comedy movies such as Mr. India.. and
good movies such as Sadma... She has proven herself again.. with Judaai...
that role was meant for her... If Madhuri would have done that role...
Madhuri would have been declared a flop right away..... In my opnion
Sridevi saved that movie from being a disasterous flop with her acting...
not even Urmila could have saved it.... only the best of the best...
Sridevi.....could have and did so.... and there is no way Anil could have
saved it... he needs to save his career... Sridevi has represented Indian
Cinema quite well.... She delivers comedy (best comedian actress... no,
Madhuri can't compare), best sensitive movies (chaandni), best social
movies (Judaai)... what else is there?? And for those of you who hate
her... there is a message for you... She said herself that she is not
going to stop coming in movies... she will continue to make her presence
felt.... She is the best... no doubt about it... if you have any comments
please do email me... and please support your comments with good
evidence.... thank you......
Prasad Tammana
In article UAA1...@ladder01.news.aol.com, muq...@aol.com (Muqudar) writes:
> She is the best thing that has happened to Indian Cinema... She has the
Nice summary right at the beginning of the post :-) Good to see so many Sridevi
fans. Cool! You've inspired me into renting a Sri movie this weekend :-)
Prasad
shr...@imap1.asu.edu
Muqudar (muq...@aol.com) wrote:
: She is the best thing that has happened to Indian Cinema... She has the
: best talent, best dancing abilities, best face, best eyes, best VOICE
: (yes, she sounds nice), Best Smile (look at her in Ram Avitar), Best
: personality... no overacting; no underacting....
Boy!This guy looks totally infatuated by Sridevi.
:good hit songs unlike...
: Madhuri (Chole ke Peche... and Dakh Dakh Karne Laga)... Lamhe... no one
Have u seen "Kate nahi Kathte" from Mr. India?? and songs from "Justice
Chaudhry" and "Masterjee" ????
And also that rain song in the mega-Bomb "RKRCKR"???
And oh..yes, another one from "Joshilay" showing her full midrib.
: dance there... now Madhuri can't even come close!!!!!!
Madhuri beats Sridevi any day in Dancing!
Remeber the dance in "Thaanedar" and of course the "Mohini" song
in "Tezaab".
Movies have become hits just because of Madhuri's dances...
Laadla, Lamhe,
: Chaandni, Judaai... look at all of the different roles Sridevi has done...
True,Sridevi did more diverse roles and is much better than Madhuri in "Histrionics".
: she has proven herself in all of them!!! She has even proven herself in
: outrageous movies such as Nagina and Chandramukhi....
Chandramukhi??Her acting was awful in that.
: good movies such as Sadma... She has proven herself again.. with Judaai...
: that role was meant for her... If Madhuri would have done that role...
: Madhuri would have been declared a flop right away.....
U seem to be having some heavy "Sour Grapes" about Madhuri's popularity.
How can u say BTW that if Madhuri would have had that role, it would've flopped.
And the movie could've been a hit because of Urmila too.
: saved it... he needs to save his career... Sridevi has represented Indian
: Cinema quite well....
Ah..there comes the ULTIMATE Statement...
: her... there is a message for you... She said herself that she is not
: going to stop coming in movies... she will continue to make her presence
: felt.... She is the best... no doubt about it... if you have any comments
Uh..oh..One Hit and u start screaming disturbing the whole Mohalla...
tomorrow if Madhuri has a Hit i guess u will still disturb the Mohalla
by crying loud!!!
BTW,U are LATE, Buddy..Sridevi has already found her RIGHT Guy... :)
Shridhar.
Ikram Ahmed Khan
shr...@imap1.asu.edu wrote:
> Have u seen "Kate nahi Kathte" from Mr. India?? and songs from "Justice
> Chaudhry" and "Masterjee" ????
> And also that rain song in the mega-Bomb "RKRCKR"???
> And oh..yes, another one from "Joshilay" showing her full midrib.
Shridhar, you *must* have taken this occasion to do some
biblical research. So, is it true that Sridevi has one less
rib than (say) you??
:) :) :)
Later,
Ikram.
Meenakshi Abbi
shr...@imap1.asu.edu wrote:
>
> Muqudar (muq...@aol.com) wrote:
> : She is the best thing that has happened to Indian Cinema... She has the
> : best talent, best dancing abilities, best face, best eyes, best VOICE
> : (yes, she sounds nice), Best Smile (look at her in Ram Avitar), Best
> : personality... no overacting; no underacting....
>
> Boy!This guy looks totally infatuated by Sridevi.
I think its cute..:)
Maybe I should put out a "Why I love Salman" post:)
well maybe not... that can get too long.
>
> :good hit songs unlike...
> : Madhuri (Chole ke Peche... and Dakh Dakh Karne Laga)... Lamhe... no one
>
> Have u seen "Kate nahi Kathte" from Mr. India?? and songs from "Justice
> Chaudhry" and "Masterjee" ????
> And also that rain song in the mega-Bomb "RKRCKR"???
> And oh..yes, another one from "Joshilay" showing her full midrib.
The one thing I noticed about madhuri and sri devi is that in most of their
songs they do not look cheap (whereas if another actress did it they would)
Now I have not seen all of SRi Devi or MAdhuri's songs so I cannot comment
on all of them..
but Dhak Dhak, Choli Ke peeche, KAte nahi kathe, and JAnne wale zara rukjaa (RKRCKR)
were not cheap imo.. I think they were done really well.. and thats because
Madhuri and Sri can dance.. so they do not need to
do exaggerated moves to unlike Raveena (in Mast MAst).
>
> : dance there... now Madhuri can't even come close!!!!!!
>
> Madhuri beats Sridevi any day in Dancing!
> Remeber the dance in "Thaanedar" and of course the "Mohini" song
> in "Tezaab".
> Movies have become hits just because of Madhuri's dances...
I think Sri and MAdhuri are the best dancers we have
today. I think one of the best dances
is Mere HAthon Mein from Chandni.
Have movies really become hits because of MAdhuri's dances??
>
> : she has proven herself in all of them!!! She has even proven herself in
> : outrageous movies such as Nagina and Chandramukhi....
>
> Chandramukhi??Her acting was awful in that.
That movie was just awful.. the less said about the better..
and I do not think that this one movie should be held against her.
The one good thing was that song..
"Chaha raha hain pyar ka nasha" Sri was great as usual:)
She was great in Nagina though.
>
> : good movies such as Sadma... She has proven herself again.. with Judaai...
> : that role was meant for her... If Madhuri would have done that role...
> : Madhuri would have been declared a flop right away.....
>
> U seem to be having some heavy "Sour Grapes" about Madhuri's popularity.
> How can u say BTW that if Madhuri would have had that role, it would've flopped.
> And the movie could've been a hit because of Urmila too.
I do not think the movie would have flopped if MAdhuri was in it.
FAce it.. MAdhuri is more popular now... but as the role was written
for Sri Devi, noone else could have done it like her.
I hope both MAdhuri and Sri get back on their toes cuz none of the
other actresses have what they have.
> BTW,U are LATE, Buddy..Sridevi has already found her RIGHT Guy... :)
Shridhar.. let the guy dream:)
Meenakshi
Prasad Tammana
In article 7E...@uclink4.berkeley.edu, Meenakshi Abbi <ma...@uclink4.berkeley.edu> () writes:
>
> I think Sri and MAdhuri are the best dancers we have
> today. I think one of the best dances
> is Mere HAthon Mein from Chandni.
If you're looking for some good dances of Sridevi you should see the
Telugu movies, "Kshana Kshanam" and "Jagadeka Veerudu Atiloka Sundari".
As a matter of fact "Dhak Dhak" is flicked from "Jagadeka Veerudu Atiloka Sundari",
the corresponding song is "Abba nee tiyyani debba". Sridevi sets the screen on
fire in that song. Madhuri in "Dhak Dhak" seemed so lame in comparison...to me
anyway!
> Have movies really become hits because of MAdhuri's dances??
I wonder. But then I don't know of any movies of Sridevi that became hit solely
because of her dances, though its definitely among her strengths. She just has
a great screen presence. If I didn't make it clear enough, to me Sridevi is
the better dancer :-)
Prasad
Amit Vaswani
> She is the best thing that has happened to Indian Cinema... She has the
> best talent, best dancing abilities, best face, best eyes, best VOICE
> (yes, she sounds nice),
A lot of people would agree with me : Sridevi has the most irritating &
shrieky voice.
> personality... no overacting; no underacting....good hit songs unlike...
Sridevi is one of the irritating stars who overacts.
> Madhuri (Chole ke Peche... and Dakh Dakh Karne Laga)...
hehehehe....r u trying to say that Dhak Dhak & Choli Peeche were not hits?
As far as vulgarity is concerned, it is a well known fact that Sridevi
used to star in Tamil porn movies before she becme a star. As for Dhak
Dhak & Choli ke peeche , I think it is upto the viewer's mind, some feel
that they are vulgar & others don't.
>Lamhe... no one
> could have done a better job than her in that movie... Madhuri would have
> flopped...having known the fact that Lamhe was a flop in India... I
> believe that it was not because of her acting it became a flop... it was
> because India was not ready to accept that story... (by the way wonderful
> dancing and acting in Lamhe)... Nagina... EXCEPTIONAL!!!!!!!
I agree that Lamhe flopped because of the story & Sridevi was
exceptionally good in that movie. However, when u say Madhuri would have
flopped u sound more of a Madhuri hater than a Sridevi lover.
> Look at her
> dance there... now Madhuri can't even come close!!!!!! Laadla, Lamhe,
> Chaandni, Judaai... look at all of the different roles Sridevi has done...
> she has proven herself in all of them!!! She has even proven herself in
> outrageous movies such as Nagina and Chandramukhi....She has talent and
> experience....
Agreed that Sridevi is an awsome dancer & amongst the best Indian cinema
has ever seen, but once again, I feel like laughing when u say Madhuri
can't come close. In one of the opinion polls conducted by Movie magazine,
Madhuri figured amongst the top 5 dancers os all time in Hindi cinema &
Sridevi no where.
> Sridevi did not become popular like Madhuri did... Sridevi
> didn't do dance numbers like that from Teezab, Khalnayak, Beta... you
> don't see Sridevi doing that...
Of course, fully agreed Sridevi did not become popular like Madhuri did.
Madhuri never starred in Tamil porn movies before her rise to fame.
Sridevi did.
>Sridevi became popular because of
> heartwarming movies like Lamhe, and comedy movies such as Mr. India.. and
> good movies such as Sadma... She has proven herself again.. with Judaai...
> that role was meant for her... If Madhuri would have done that role...
> Madhuri would have been declared a flop right away.....
Once again, u sound like more off a Madhuri hater than a Sridevi lover.
However, it is true that Sridevi's performances in all of the above movies
were good ( I haven't seen Judaai though). Talk about Dil & Beta, where
Madhuri gave a strong performance & virtually overshadowed the others.
This is not my opinion but of people who have seen the movies : Beta
should have been called Beti & Raja should have been called Rani. How
about, Saajan which was a romantic film & HAHK which was a family
entertainer. It was Madhuri who put an end to the wave of vulgarity
which had plagued Hindi cinema at that time, with HAHK. DDLJ & others came
later.
>In my opnion
> Sridevi saved that movie from being a disasterous flop with her acting...
> not even Urmila could have saved it.... only the best of the best...
> Sridevi.....could have and did so.... and there is no way Anil could have
> saved it... he needs to save his career... Sridevi has represented Indian
> Cinema quite well....
This is another laugh, why didn't she save Lamhe then??? After all Lamhe
was a great movie & she won the best acteress award. So what if the story
was different. How about Roop Ki Raani Choron Ka Raja?? Don't say that the
other factors went aganist the movie. When a movie is a hit, u say Sridevi
did it against alll other odds, u can't say that she is not responsible
for her flops then. As far as representing Indian cinema is concerned, I
think Nargis , Nutan, Meena Kumari & Hema Malini have done a better job.
I have also proved above that Madhuri has an done an equally good of
representing Hindi cinema if not better.
>She delivers comedy (best comedian actress... no,
> Madhuri can't compare), best sensitive movies (chaandni), best social
> movies (Judaai)... what else is there?? And for those of you who hate
> her... there is a message for you... She said herself that she is not
> going to stop coming in movies... she will continue to make her presence
> felt.... She is the best... no doubt about it...
That's great news for those who hate her. She has become so old now that
she will make a fool of herself if she continues coming in movies.
I am a Madhuri fan, but not obssesed with her & biased about others. I can
appreciate good performances from others, even Sridevi whom I hate.
-Amit Vaswani.
A True Madhuri Fan from Tezaab to Koyla.
1988 - Tezaab
1989 - Ram Lakhan, Tridev
1990 - Dil
1991 - Saajan
1992 - Beta
1993 - Khalnayak
1994 - Hum Aapke Hain Koun
1995 - Raja
1997 - Koyla
& many many more to come.
TheSmurf
> Have movies really become hits because of MAdhuri's dances??
Absolutely !! Look at Madhuri's string of hits in the late 80's and
early 90's. All of them had at least one really danceable, hummable hit
song with Madhuri bedecked in her full glory (sorry yaar .. Madhuri
makes me sigh too much) :-) From "Ek Do teen" In TEZAAB, where front row
"majnus" were throwing paisa at the screen to her "scintillating" dance
in Beta, Madhuri made movies with her "Dhak Dhak's". In addition,
"Tamma Tamma" from THANEDAAR and "Choli Ke Peeche" from KHALNAYAK, were
major reasons for the success of the aformentioned films. As far as
acting goes, Sri takes the cake. But, IMHO, she also ate em all and that
is why I never really cared too much for her looks :-)
And Muqadar bhai, to wean you off this Sri madness, let me recommend you
listen to "Chandni O Meri Chandni" 50 times on repeat. Sridevi ki bhoot
khud-be-khud utar jayega :-)
Cheers
Manz
r_kr...@hotmail.com
In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.97050...@ernie.WPI.EDU>, Amit says...
>
>As far as vulgarity is concerned, it is a well known fact that Sridevi
>used to star in Tamil porn movies before she becme a star. As for Dhak
>Dhak & Choli ke peeche , I think it is upto the viewer's mind, some feel
>that they are vulgar & others don't.
Sridevi acted in a tamil blue film. Sure its a well known fact. Its also a
well known fact that pigs fly.
Mr Amit, please do not make a fool of yourself by such stupid claims. I am
a tamil and and I can assure you that she never acted in any porn movies.
There are scores of other tamils who will agree with me. If she had acted
then surely someone would have seen it.
She did act in some Malyalam movies initially where she showed a generous part
of her t**s, but Madhuri did the same in Dhak Dhak.
PS: I am not getting into Sri vs Madhuri flame war.
shr...@imap1.asu.edu
Prasad Tammana (ptam...@lsil.com) wrote:
: In article 7E...@uclink4.berkeley.edu, Meenakshi Abbi <ma...@uclink4.berkeley.edu> () writes:
: >
: If you're looking for some good dances of Sridevi you should see the
: Telugu movies, "Kshana Kshanam" and "Jagadeka Veerudu Atiloka Sundari".
Hello!!! Sridevis' best dance to date has been the "Kisi ke haath na aayegi"
from CHAALBAAZ.
And if u want to see Sridevi's performances, then see "MOONDRAM PIRAI" in
Tamil and also "Pynaaru vydanile" from Tamil.IMO(i mean obviously)[hehe..changed it]
Sridevi has been nothing but another Glamor Doll for those cheap dream sequences
(except Kshanam Kshanam) in Telugu cinema. They just utilised her beauty providede
by her makeover in Bollywood.If one industry which has tapped Sri's good acting ability
well, that is Tamil Cinema(her HOME industry) and Bollywood.Period.
: > Have movies really become hits because of MAdhuri's dances??
1."Ek Do Teen" certainly was a major factor in Tezaab's success. It had become a
RAGE all over India in 1988.
2."Dum Dama Dam" was shot especially for the re-release of Dil and was a major
factor in helping Dil's overallphenomenal success at the Box-office.
BTW, this song also became a rage all over India.
3."Dhak Dhak" from Beta.Certainly, noone can argue that this song was not a major
factor in the film's success.[the film was mediocre BTW].
4."Choli ke peeche"--again a rage.The biggest rage seen in recent times.
5."Nazren Mili Dil Dhadka" from "Raja"...a screwed-up film like Raja making it big at the Box-office
..imagine the power of Madhuri's dances.
Shridhar.
Muqudar
You are not biased.... hmmm "even though I hate Sridevi"..... who in hell
cares if you hate her.... "I am a Madhuri fan".... Who cares if you are a
Madhuri fan.....??????? I know Madhuri has done good films... but HAHK
was not all that good.... just because a movie becomes a hit... you don't
automatically asume that the actress or actor did a good job... She didn't
do a good job... infact I found the movie boring.... (songs not that well
also)..... Beta Khalnayak..... were ok.... but if she is such a great
actress why did she have to dance to such numbers... obviously any idiot
can understand that she wanted to get popular and that was the only way
she had to get ahead of Sridevi... by showing off her body.....
Amit Vaswani
On 8 May 1997, Muqudar wrote:
> You are not biased.... hmmm "even though I hate Sridevi"..... who in hell
> cares if you hate her.... "I am a Madhuri fan".... Who cares if you are a
> Madhuri fan.....???????
Well I didn't ask u to care, did I?? Go suck a lemon.
>I know Madhuri has done good films... but HAHK
> was not all that good.... just because a movie becomes a hit... you don't
> automatically asume that the actress or actor did a good job... She didn't
> do a good job... infact I found the movie boring.... (songs not that well
> also)..... Beta Khalnayak..... were ok.... but if she is such a great
> actress why did she have to dance to such numbers... obviously any idiot
> can understand that she wanted to get popular and that was the only way
> she had to get ahead of Sridevi... by showing off her body.....
>
Well it was u who found HAHK boring & felt that Madhuri didn't do a good
job. But, the millions of people who flocked to see the movie not once but
many times didn't thought otherwise. The people who voted for her to be
Best Actress at Filmfare thought otherwise. I am sorry but u r too
obsessed with Sridevi to think about a good performance from Madhuri.
As regards, u saying about Madhuri showing off her body, go watch Jutice
Chowdhary & Sridevi's earlier movies with Jeetendra & then talk.
Also, Madhuri never starred in Tamil porn folms like Sridevi.
I know about this, not from magazines, I am a Bombayite & my cousins are
in the film line, I know all the stories about who's what.
-Amit.
The Charming Mumbaikar.
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Lutchmee Kalawon
Hi!
In my opinion, Sridevi is better than MAdhuri in every way. She
has a lot of class. I wish I could understand telegu or tamil so that I
could check out her movies in that industry. She is an amazing dancer with
a lot of grace and talent. Madhuri on the other hand is a good dancer
but she lacks the magic that Sridevi brings out in her dancing. I
mean has Madhuri ever done a song which one good actually appreciate
based on the art componenet of dancing. Someone already mentionned this
but I it is a good example: Sridevi in Lamhe is just unbeatable! She took
such simple steps and made the songs look so beautiful. I think it was
only in Sangeet that she was decent. Actually she did a good job with
that song in Koyla...Sanson ki mala! I was impressed! But when talking
about dancing I think the only person who could give Sridevi any
competition would be Meenakshi Seshadri...note her performance in Damini!
The only problem with her is that she also lacks grace. I guess when you
look at the dances the difficulty of the steps also have to be taken into
account! In the new crowd there is nobody who can match these three
actresses! To sum up...Madhuri is a good dancer, Meenakshi is better and
Sridevi is the BEST!
Preeti
ANWAR SADAT
<shr...@imap1.asu.edu> wrote:
>Have u seen "Kate nahi Kathte" from Mr. India?? and songs from "Justice
>Chaudhry" and "Masterjee" ????
>And also that rain song in the mega-Bomb "RKRCKR"???
>And oh..yes, another one from "Joshilay" showing her full midrib.
Exactly. And add a couple of really cheap and suggestive songs/dances
from INQUILAAB to that list too! And let's remember that, as time
passes, the trend is for dances to become more and more vulgar, and
actresses are revealing more as a result. You can't compare Sri Devi's
dances to Madhuri's dances because there is a big gap in between. A lot
of things can change in 10 years. What I'm trying to say is... For HER
TIME, some of Sri Devi's dances were also cheap. If Sri Devi had debuted
in the late 80's rather than in the early 80's, I'm sure she would have
revealed more also. Just like (to use an extreme example) if Nargis or
Madhubala had debuted in the 1990's, we can expect them to have done
cheaper roles also. It's not Madhuri who dictates what will happen in
the movies... she's just responding to the audience demands of her time.
Sri Devi was responding to the audience demands of her time. Zeenat
Aman, Parveen Babi.... Nargis, Madhubala... they were all responding to
the audience demands of THEIR TIME.
Taking everything into consideration, Madhuri never did anything
extremely vulgar or "out of the ordinary." She never went out of her way
to expose in order to get attention. It was just a part of the dances
that she had to do. Mamta Kulkarni is the type of actress who went out
of her way to expose... who did something "out of the ordinary" to get
attention. Madhuri never really did anything like this. And while films
like TEZAAB, BETA, and KHAL NAYAK made Madhuri a superstar, it's
HUM AAPKE HAIN KOUN..! that __really__ made her into the mega-star that
she is today. And HAHK, as we all know, is probably the CLEANEST film
you'll find nowadays! And furthermore, Madhuri was not just some
decoration piece who took back seat to the male star in that film. She
was the *heart* and *soul* of the film. Given, the acting itself was
nothing extraordinary, but the role did not call for extraordinary
acting. It was her incredible dances, beauty, and OVERALL CHARISMA that
made her performance one to remember.
>Madhuri beats Sridevi any day in Dancing!
>Remeber the dance in "Thaanedar" and of course the "Mohini" song
>in "Tezaab".
>Movies have become hits just because of Madhuri's dances...
Let's not forget the all-time classic "Choli Ke Peeche" from KHAL
NAYAK. This song/dance, IMO, was cleverly and tastefully done,
especially when compared to all the Choli Ke Peeche "clones" that
followed it..!
As far as dances go, I don't even see how people are comparing Sri Devi
to Madhuri. Madhuri's dances are so great, even her flop films always
have a memorable hit song/dance. Examples are ANJAAM, YAARANA, and
PREM GRANTH.
>: she has proven herself in all of them!!! She has even proven herself in
>: outrageous movies such as Nagina and Chandramukhi....
>
>Chandramukhi??Her acting was awful in that.
Awful isn't the word. "Pass-me-the-doggie-bag" is more like it...
Just my two cents,
- Sadat
Meenakshi Abbi
ANWAR SADAT wrote:
> Taking everything into consideration, Madhuri never did anything
> extremely vulgar or "out of the ordinary." She never went out of her way
> to expose in order to get attention.
I don't find any of Madhuri's dances vulgar..
but I remember one scene with her
and Vinod Khanna which was less than
tasteful in my opinion.
I do not remember the movie.. the only
thing I remember is that the song was nice.
I don't even think Mamta has done something
like this.
> > As far as dances go, I don't even see how people are comparing Sri Devi
> to Madhuri. Madhuri's dances are so great, even her flop films always
> have a memorable hit song/dance. Examples are ANJAAM, YAARANA, and
> PREM GRANTH.
Yeah, but Sri Devi is an excellent dancer.....
Chandni, MR, India, Lamhe, Chalbaaz etc..all of Sri's dances
are good as well regardless of the film..
even in Chandramukhi.. she was good in
Chaha raha hain pyar ka nasha.
Lately, in Raja, Raj Kumar and Yaarana, I have found Madhuri's dancing
to be repetetive and though not vulgar, not as good as her previous dances.
Meenakshi
Ikram Ahmed Khan
ANWAR SADAT wrote:
> Just like (to use an extreme example) if Nargis or
> Madhubala had debuted in the 1990's, we can expect them to have done
> cheaper roles also.
Sadat, yeh kya ho rahaa hai??
Sheh!! Madhubala jaisii laD.kii ke baare meN yeh sochna bhi
"ghor paap" hai!!
:) :) :)
Actually, to put it as delicately as possible, Madhubala's collar
bones looked lovely in 'Tarana'. :) :) Her face is enuff to take
care of a thousand Madhuri (or Sridevi, for that matter) latkas and
jhatkas.... My Opinion!!
> It's not Madhuri who dictates what will happen in
> the movies... she's just responding to the audience demands of her time.
> Sri Devi was responding to the audience demands of her time.
Now, this is an interesting point, Sadat. Lemme talk about this
(without going into the Sridevi vs. Madhuri war... why?? *I* choose
not to go into that war}. Let's take Sridevi's career. Sridevi started
off her comeback to Hindi films with Himmatwala. Definitely among
her audience demand waala roles. { euphemisms are sooo rare these days
:( :)}. This continued on for a while. Her position was precarious
during the initial years as JayaPradha was being touted as her
competitor. Then JayaP did her 'Sanjog' and dropped off. But just
prior to all this, 'Hero' had come and everybody hailed Meenakshi
as her competitor. {That led to the ill-fated 'Joshilay' :)}.
So, Sridevi during her initial years was never really the No. 1 with
no competitor. But Meenakshi too fell by the wayside soon. Almost as
soon as that happened, out went the orders.... "Madam" will not do
any revealing stuff.... This was the Chandni era.... Things looked
hunky dory for Sri until suddenly 'Tezaab' happened. She had a
challenger pretty soon after that what with SubhashG going all out
and promoting her... Sri still didn't relent all that much. She
thought that Madhuri too would pass.... Hence a Lamhe. But Madhuri
built a reputation on doing ummm.... "alluring" dances. 'Sailaab'
ran because of one dance of Madhuri, claimed people. Everybody went
in for the Madhuri craze big way. Sridevi's "sherni" ran not
because of her dancing "alluring" dances... same goes even for
Nagina... no "alluring" dances. {Good dances no doubt... but no
"alluring" stuff :)}. But people then started feeling that Madhuri
was becoming the No. 1. Sridevi herself felt the heat. RKRCKR which
was slowly limping towards completion, they decided, needed an
"alluring" item from Sri. It was shot at almost the last moment...
with Sri specially reducing for it... so the mags claimed. And thus
came 'O jaanewaale zara ruk jaana, tujhko raaheN bulaati haiN'...
But it all went downhill for Sri after that... RKR... failed and
so did some other films of her.. And Madhuri went from strength
to strength...
So, summary - Sri when solely at the top did decide to go "against
public demand" and still made successful movies. At that time,
there was no competition to her.. She was Queen of the Hill {nice
one, wot?? :)} and she dictated the policy of no "alluring" dances
and no revealing...
*Now* let's pick up with Madhuri and her career. She did 'Dhak Dhak'
and firmly displaced Sri from her throne. Till that time, it was still
kinda shaky, as to who was ahead, but 'Beta' did it. Since that time
let's take a look at Madhuri's dances and whether she decided to go
against the "alluring" dances part. The answer is a "no". She did
decide when at the top, that she would go in for more acting roles...
"Sangeet"... But even it had a very questionable song in it. It
bombed too. She tried a few films which didn't have any such situations
{What was that double role in one of 'em she is an auto driver??}
but found those films flopping. She decided to go with the "public
demand" which seemed to be more dances. I certainly wouldn't call her
dress sense in RaajKumar or Prem Granth or even Koyla to be
exactly "pure" :). Even the "tastefully done" 'Choli ke peechhe',
I can argue had some rather questionable dance movements.
Summary - Madhuri tried to do what Sridevi did when she reached the
top, but failed....
I think going by how HemaM or Rekha or Nutan {she appeared in a
swimsuit in one of her first film, if not the first :)} and their
behavior on reaching the top, and even Sridevi for that matter,
Madhuri's reign didn't have the same 'cleansing' effect on her.
I would definitely say that HemaM managed to get over the
'SapnoN ka Saudagar' days, same for Rekha's earlier duds and
I think even Sridevi did it in her absolute monarch days. They
dictated public opinion by dictating the roles that they would
or would not do..... Madhuri, it seems to me, failed in this
aspect.
More discussion welcome.....
Later,
Ikram.
Meenakshi Abbi
Prasad Tammana wrote:
> > Have movies really become hits because of MAdhuri's dances??
>
> I wonder. But then I don't know of any movies of Sridevi that became hit solely
> because of her dances, though its definitely among her strengths. She just has
> a great screen presence. If I didn't make it clear enough, to me Sridevi is
> the better dancer :-)
>
> Prasad
I think Madhuri and Sri both have great
Screen presence but I agree
with you that Sri Devi has more..
theres just something about her.
Meenakshi
Jagadish Chandra Bose
In article <5kr3ql$c...@news.asu.edu>, shr...@imap1.asu.edu says...
>
>Prasad Tammana (ptam...@lsil.com) wrote:
>
>: In article 7E...@uclink4.berkeley.edu, Meenakshi Abbi <ma...@uclink4.berkeley.edu> () writes:
>: >
>
>: If you're looking for some good dances of Sridevi you should see the
>: Telugu movies, "Kshana Kshanam" and "Jagadeka Veerudu Atiloka Sundari".
>
>Hello!!! Sridevis' best dance to date has been the "Kisi ke haath na aayegi"
>from CHAALBAAZ.
were the best. You seem to incesnsed by the fact that somebody said
that her best dances are from a telugu movie :). Of course I never
doubted your objectivity :) :)
>
>And if u want to see Sridevi's performances, then see "MOONDRAM PIRAI" in
>Tamil and also "Pynaaru vydanile" from Tamil.IMO(i mean obviously)[hehe..changed it]
>Sridevi has been nothing but another Glamor Doll for those cheap dream sequences
>(except Kshanam Kshanam) in Telugu cinema. They just utilised her beauty providede
Looks like you havent seen films like Jagadeka Veerudu and Atiloka Sundari
and Govinda Govinda (Thats why you are able to use IMO :) ). She is
absolutely superb in those and the dances are some of her best. True
telugu cinema did not use her histrionic ability too much - those type
of roles were reserved for Jayasudha (who would beat hands down at
acting prowess any day)and Suhasini.
> by her makeover in Bollywood.If one industry which has tapped Sri's good acting ability
>well, that is Tamil Cinema(her HOME industry) and Bollywood.Period.
Of course i would consider any sentences with Hello!, Period and Ting
Tong from you as your personal opinion. She is as much a telugu as you
are a south indian and I am a Bengali. She is from Tamil Nadu but her
mother tongue is telugu.
Muqudar
When my aunt went to see a concert in Canada (Juhi, Raveena, Madhuri,
Sridevi).... everyone agreed that Sridevi looked the best.. this was
before 1994 it was in 1993... Sridevi completely overshadowed everyone
else......
Meenakshi Abbi
Wow. .there was a concert with all those 4..
I am just surprised that there was a concert
with MAdhuri and Sri Devi together..
pretty neat.. ..
did any actors come?
and I am surprised if they did..
with MD and SD being there..
Meenakshi
Amit Vaswani
On 10 May 1997, Muqudar wrote:
> When my aunt went to see a concert in Canada (Juhi, Raveena, Madhuri,
> Sridevi).... everyone agreed that Sridevi looked the best.. this was
> before 1994 it was in 1993... Sridevi completely overshadowed everyone
> else......
>
>
Muqudar all that I can tell you is that there is a world beyond Sridevi.
She may be one of the greatest actresses ever in Hindi cinema, but it is
foolish on your side to be so narrow minded that u cannot think beyond
her.
V. Chowdary Jampala
In article <3373649D...@raleigh.ibm.com>, Ikram says...
(I liked Ikram's post and agree with most of what he said.
Just making a couple of points.)
>in for the Madhuri craze big way. Sridevi's "sherni" ran not
>because of her dancing "alluring" dances... same goes even for
>Nagina... no "alluring" dances. {Good dances no doubt... but no
>"alluring" stuff :)}.
I don't know their definition of 'alluring', but I found Sridevi to be
quite 'alluring' in that number she does in Nagiana in a yellow saree trying
to prevent Rishi K. from going out. During that same period, Sridevi did two
films in Telugu - atilOka veeruDu jagadEka sundari (dubbed in Hindi as Aadmi
aur apsara, I think) and kshanamkshanam (dubbed in Hindi as hairaan; if you
are a Sreedvi fan, it would be a sin to miss this film :)) which
probably rank among Sridevi's best movies; 'alluring' is not even close enough
to describe her in those movies.
But, if 'alluring' is defined as cavorting around in a certain kind of
costumes with a particular class of dance movements, Sridevi did cut that
down once she reached the top.
All said and done, two of the last four Sridevi films are bonafide hits
(Laadla and Judaai), films in which she has solid performances in what are
essentially rather negative and deglamorized roles. So, there is more to her
than just being 'alluring'.
Regards. -- V. Chowdary Jampala
Muqudar
I ABSOLUTELY LOVED YOUR ESSAY ON SRIDEVI VS. MADHURI IKRAM!!!
WONDERFUL......... Absolutely I think I will print it or atleast save
it... thank you so much for one of the best messages I have ever read on
this board......
Muqudar
It is true, I don't know about the actors but it was all four of
them...... and as for "Amit, the Charming Mumbaikar" bhai..... There is
more to my life than movies and actors and actresses.....
Peeyush
I think you are missing something here. Just cause you are Tamil means no
way that you are to know every thing about Tamil movies and all people
who have acted in any movie. There are so many Hind watching people on
this NG here but I assure you a good percentage of them do not know that
Shekhar Suman was jailed for acting in a porno movie (that too after he
had acted in other Hindi movies). It has nothing to do with pigs can fly..
people who act in pornos are also human beings.. though not a single pig
can fly.
I do not know whether it si true or not, but I cannot dismiss it
categorically. I remember we had a major hue and cry (and people running
around to find that tape) when I was in 8th grade and there was a heavy
rumor that there is a porno tape wth Sridevi in it. No one I know could
get a copy of that, but for sure, there is no smoke without fire.
But of course this means nothing to whether Sri Devi is a good actress or
not. In my view, SriDevi is a better actress and Madhuri is much much
better looking.
For Sridevi's acting you can watch any good movie of her. Take Judai for
instance, or Chalbaaz (not mentioning Sadma since I thought it was over
hyped in terms of Sridevi's acting.. according to me it was Kamal hasan
who should have been commended for his performance). There are so many
good movies of her that I cannot name them.. just have a general
impression of her acting ability.
And if you think SriDevi is more beautiful, watch Madhuri in Prem
Pratigya.. and come back and tell me one movie in which Sri Devi could
exhibit so much of pure unadulterated beauty.
-Peeyush
shr...@imap1.asu.edu
Ikram Ahmed Khan (iak...@raleigh.ibm.com) wrote:
: not to go into that war}. Let's take Sridevi's career. Sridevi started
: off her comeback to Hindi films with Himmatwala. Definitely among
Sridevi and comeback to Hindi films?? I guess that was with ARMY.
Sridevi started starring in Hindi films to the time scale u are
referring, not a COMEBACK.And yes, she started with "Solva Sawan"
and not with "Himmatwala".
: kinda shaky, as to who was ahead, but 'Beta' did it. Since that time
Madhuri was offcially placed at No.1 after RKRCKR flopped in '93 and
then HAHK went on to become a huge hit.Until then, as of '93-93 to '94,
it was a close call between Madhuri, Sridevi and Juhi Chawla(after
the successes of HHRPK and Darr and after she won the FF award).But Madhuri
was the most popular among these three.
Shridhar.
Muqudar
Thank you Peeyush for the truth....
Ikram Ahmed Khan
V. Chowdary Jampala wrote:
> But, if 'alluring' is defined as cavorting around in a certain kind of
> costumes with a particular class of dance movements, Sridevi did cut that
> down once she reached the top.
Ummm... yes. Though, Sridevi in 'mere haathoN meN nau-nau' would
fit the 'technical dictionary' meaning of 'alluring' {perhaps},
I was using 'alluring' as a euphemism for more 'interesting' things. :)
>
> All said and done, two of the last four Sridevi films are bonafide hits
> (Laadla and Judaai), films in which she has solid performances in what are
> essentially rather negative and deglamorized roles.
I think we might need to make it 3 out of 4.
Army was supposed to be an average hit. Or that was what I had gathered.
KSKJhoota was an unmitigated disaster, I think....
Later,
Ikram.
ps. Of course, 'Army' was a hit due to SRK :) :) wot?? :) :)
Reshma
Unless you see judaai, you wouldnt know sridevi's acting capabilities: she
surpass any actresses today, just watch judaai: then you can give your
biased /unbaised opinion of her, you haven't seen sridevi act unless you
see her in judaai: no wonder she was No.1 for so many years before
madhuri. btw, have you noticed that most of madhuri's superb acting movies
have flopped like anjaam, prem granth, prahaar, sangeet, prem pratigya,
sailaab???? I thought she was excellent in the prior movies except prem
granth, but they didnt budge in the box office: That only proves that only
ifyou give madhuri dixit a movie with atleast one vulgar song
choreography, then people will come see her. I prefer her act rather than
show her body, same goes for all actress. I am looking forward to
mrityudand, althought it might not be a hit, since its partially a art
movie. Madhuri dixit is having problem remaining at the top these days
with so many flop movies, its so easy to reach the top but so hard to
maintain it. I am not a fan of madhuri, but love her in movies where she
shows her acting abilities. you think that madhuri can pull a SADMA?
NOone but SRIDEVI can manage a a performance like that opposite kamal
hassan. Try doing a charlie chaplin getup: think madhuri can look
believable? Madhuri should make movies where she shows her talent as an
actress not her belly. We expect a lot from a accomplished actress, not
yarana, rajkumar, or for that matter prem granth and koyla.
Reshma
MY TWO PENNies Worth
Ikram Ahmed Khan
shr...@imap1.asu.edu wrote:
>
> Ikram Ahmed Khan (iak...@raleigh.ibm.com) wrote:
>
> : not to go into that war}. Let's take Sridevi's career. Sridevi started
> : off her comeback to Hindi films with Himmatwala. Definitely among
>
> Sridevi and comeback to Hindi films?? I guess that was with ARMY.
> Sridevi started starring in Hindi films to the time scale u are
> referring, not a COMEBACK.And yes, she started with "Solva Sawan"
> and not with "Himmatwala".
I think there was a significant time span between Solva Sawan
and Himmatwala. Also, SolvaS had flopped miserably. Hence the word
'comeback'.....
>
> : kinda shaky, as to who was ahead, but 'Beta' did it. Since that time
>
> Madhuri was offcially placed at No.1 after RKRCKR flopped in '93 and
Officially?? By whom?? :)
But you're right, I was neglecting Juhi in the picture...
Later,
Ikram.
Lavina
All,
Just read that Sribaby just had a baby of her own.
Any ideas if she had a baby boy or a baby girl?
TheSmurf
Sorry, but I remember prem pratigya to have been an average "hit".
Besides, Mithun was what made that movie good. She was alright ..
laterz
Manz
Harit Modi
Hi Lavina,
It's already a long time since she had a baby (some time in March, I
believe).
It was a girl. Let's hope it's a double-acting (like Lamhe and
Khudagawah). :^)
The name of the father was announced only 2-3 months before the baby:
Boney Kapoor
Some extracts from a report:
Sridevi has a girl
Anil Kapoors ma-in-law helped the cesarean on Thursday at the Breach
Candy hospital in Bombay, both mother and daughter are doing fine,
hospital sources said.
This thing was kept a secret from the family also, he let on. Sridevis
baby is very cute. Ekdum ma pe gayee hai, said a visitor to the
hospital.
Good luck to both,
Harit
--
Harit Modi (0ff): 608 262 1721
E-mail: ha...@cs.wisc.edu
Homepage: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~harit/papers.html
=============================================
Muqudar
What are the best movies of Sridevi.. I mean the best..must see.... I know
the following are good:
Lamhe
Judaai
Gumraah (well I liked it)
Mr. India
Mr. Bechara ( it was funny)
Chaalbaaz
Nagina
Nagina 2 (think this was a hit) (most people don't know if this movie
existed but I have seen it)
what else tell me more.......
Muqudar
Madhuri doesn't have the presence that Sridevi does..... Sridevi by far
will have a deeper effect on anyone than Madhuri
Ikram Ahmed Khan
Muqudar wrote:
>
> What are the best movies of Sridevi.. I mean the best..must see.... I know
> the following are good:
>
> Lamhe
> Judaai
> Gumraah (well I liked it)
> Mr. India
> Mr. Bechara ( it was funny)
> Chaalbaaz
> Nagina
> Nagina 2 (think this was a hit)
This would be Nigahen (*ed SunnyD and AnupamK}
> what else tell me more.......
Well, there is always Sadma. And I personally like quite a few of
those Padmalya movies... Wot zany stuff!! :) :)
Keep adding....
Later,
Ikram.
Ikram Ahmed Khan
Muqudar wrote:
>
> True...atleast Sridevi is not repetitive.. look at all of her movies
> Nagina, Chaalbaaz, Mr. India, Chandni, Ram Avitar (the one song... have
> any of you guys seen this movie??) She was good in that one song.. you
> will see which song I am talking about if you have seen it...
You are probably talking about
'Unglii pe angooThi, angooThi meN nageena
tere bin, ho~~~~
tere bin, ik bhi din,
mushkil ho gaya jeena....'
Later,
Ikram.
Muqudar
True...atleast Sridevi is not repetitive.. look at all of her movies
Nagina, Chaalbaaz, Mr. India, Chandni, Ram Avitar (the one song... have
any of you guys seen this movie??) She was good in that one song.. you
Lamhe.... Roop ki rani (even though it was not a hit, still good though)
also, look at Judaai..... everything is new and up to date......
CyberMonk
r_kr...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Point accepted. I did not mean that being a tamil makes me an authority on
> Sridevi. However I am sure that she never acted in any blue film. This kind
> of rumor's do come but no one ( I repeat no one) has seen any blue film of
> hers. If she had acted in a BF , then surely someone must have a copy of
> it. Where is it?
You're a Tamil , then what the hell r u doing in this newsgrp . go back to ur own
stinking soc.culture.Tamil and eat curry.
And by the way, Mannn!!! who want to see Sridevi in a blue film. She's so fucking DARK,
especially during those times, that no one can even see her making love to someone in
a dark room.
Hope u got my point!!!
The Lone Warrior.
ANWAR SADAT
In article <19970517213...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
Muqudar <muq...@aol.com> wrote:
>Madhuri doesn't have the presence that Sridevi does..... Sridevi by far
>will have a deeper effect on anyone than Madhuri
Watch the opening credits of HAHK with Madhuri in black and white,
looking the camera in the eye and singing the theme song. That's what I
call presence. Sri Devi laughing a-- off in LAMHE and screaming her lungs
off in KHUDA GAWAH also has a strong presence... but not necessarily the type
of presence that I enjoy.
My two cents,
- Sadat
Muqudar
Watch the opening credits of HAHK with Madhuri in black and white,
looking the camera in the eye and singing the theme song. That's what I
call presence. Sri Devi laughing a-- off in LAMHE and screaming her lungs
off in KHUDA GAWAH also has a strong presence... but not necessarily the
type
of presence that I enjoy.
My two cents,
- Sadat
Well, you sound like Madhuri is all that... but she isn't... Sri made a
really good impression in both of those movies... watch 'em again and this
try pay attention
Amit Vaswani
> Watch the opening credits of HAHK with Madhuri in black and white,
> looking the camera in the eye and singing the theme song. That's what I
> call presence. Sri Devi laughing a-- off in LAMHE and screaming her lungs
>
> off in KHUDA GAWAH also has a strong presence... but not necessarily the
> type
> of presence that I enjoy.
>
irritating. She is so fat too (Mr. India).
> My two cents,
Not even 1 cent for Sridevi.
> - Sadat
>
> Well, you sound like Madhuri is all that... but she isn't... Sri made a
> really good impression in both of those movies... watch 'em again and this
> try pay attention
if people ever paid attention to Hindi films, Sridevi would've been no
where today.
Reshma
On Tue, 20 May 1997, Amit Vaswani wrote:
> > Watch the opening credits of HAHK with Madhuri in black and white,
> > looking the camera in the eye and singing the theme song. That's what I
> > call presence. Sri Devi laughing a-- off in LAMHE and screaming her lungs
> >
> > off in KHUDA GAWAH also has a strong presence... but not necessarily the
> > type
> > of presence that I enjoy.
> >
> Fully agreed, Sridevi doesn't anything but laugh & sound shrieky &
> irritating. She is so fat too (Mr. India).
>
Get real, watch her in chalbaaz. Madhuri is JUST AS FAT IF NOT MORE>>watch
yaarana, koyla, rajkumar, khalnayak, should i go on?????
>
> > My two cents,
> Not even 1 cent for Sridevi.
NOt even 1/2 cent for madhuri---she is redundant!!!!!!
>
> > - Sadat
> >
>
> > Well, you sound like Madhuri is all that... but she isn't... Sri made a
> > really good impression in both of those movies... watch 'em again and this
> > try pay attention
>
> if people ever paid attention to Hindi films, Sridevi would've been no
> where today.
Who says people pay attention when madhuri acts??? all her acting wise
movies have flopped..people want to watch madhuri show her FAT BELLY than
her BRAIN: why would anyone do movies at first when they are so
studious:she probably sucked in school that is why she chose movies...she
should
have stucked to studying..maybe she would have done something more
memorable!
Reshma
Ikram Ahmed Khan
Peeyush Ranjan wrote:
> And yes.. back to your
> dear Sribaby. At around the same time, she came in lotsa movies with
> Jeetendra. First of all.. look at her choice.. Jeetendra of all
> people!!!!
Ummm... Was that supposed to be a compliment to "Sribaby"?? :)
After all, she had a whole lot of hits with "Jeetendra of all people"??
:) :) :)
Later,
Ikram.
Prasad Tammana
In article 70...@sdd.hp.com, Peeyush Ranjan <pee...@sdd.hp.com> () writes:
>
> In case you don't know... Sri Devi was listed as one of the ugliest cine
> celebrities of the world by Time (I think it was Time).
^^^^^^^^
Doesn't sound like you know it either. Its hard to believe that Time
will come up with such a topic as "ugliest cine celebrities", sounds more
like a "National Enquirer" headline. I'd be curious as to which issue it
is, so I can try to get hold of it. No, that won't change my opinion on
how Sridevi looks, but will just tell me how opinionated articles in Time
can be and maybe I'll cancel my subscription to Time and save some money :-)
> I don't say that Madhuri is extraordinary actor.. but she surely can
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In fact Madhuri is not even an ordinary actor simply because she's an actress :-)
> Now that sounds bitter.. do you have any personal hassles with her???
Comparison aside, when you called Sridevi plain ugly, or at least sounded like
you concur with what you claim to be the judgement of Time, I wanted to ask you
the same question - do you have any personal hassles with her???!!!
Prasad
Peeyush Ranjan
Reshma wrote:
> Get real, watch her in chalbaaz. Madhuri is JUST AS FAT IF NOT MORE>>watch
> yaarana, koyla, rajkumar, khalnayak, should i go on?????
Seems like you have some janam janam ka bair with Madhuri. Who are you
talking about as being FAT?? You mention Chalbaaz for Sridevi and then
come up with all the recent movies of Madhuri. If you compare that way,
go and watch Hifazat, one of the first few movies Madhuri appeared in.
Anil picks her up by her waist in one scene, and almost the whole waist
could fit in one hand of his. Now is that fat?? And yes.. back to your
dear Sribaby. At around the same time, she came in lotsa movies with
Jeetendra. First of all.. look at her choice.. Jeetendra of all
people!!!! Anyway, we are talking about figure here. So, she was the one
who made the term "thunder thighs" a common phrase. Ohmygod.. look at
her thighs in Himmatwala.. looks like two fat blobs of meat supporting a
third blob.
Of course, as far as acting goes, IMHO, Sridevi is far beyond Madhuri.
Madhuri is an average actress.. can not emote crying and emotionally
heavy scenes very effectively, something which SriDevi is really good
at. But as far as beauty goes, Sridevi is no comparison for Madhuri.. it
is not a fair game.. Madhuri is much above Sridevi.
In case you don't know... Sri Devi was listed as one of the ugliest cine
celebrities of the world by Time (I think it was Time).
>
> NOt even 1/2 cent for madhuri---she is redundant!!!!!!
Oh.. is she?? And the producers have been stupid to still be signing her
up, eh? Can you imagine an Ek Do Teen without Madhuri's smiles?? You
may, but no _guy_ can.. believe me.
>
> Who says people pay attention when madhuri acts??? all her acting wise
> movies have flopped..people want to watch madhuri show her FAT BELLY than
Since when has a flop or a hit been a measure of the actor/actress's
acting capability?? If that was the case pathetic acting examples, like
SRK's in Darr, would have been a flop. There is a lot more which goes
into making a movie a hit.
I don't say that Madhuri is extraordinary actor.. but she surely can
act. Why people pay attention is something to be wondered about here..
since I know I don't pay attention to watch her act.. I just like her
presence on the screen.. and she looks good IMHO.
> her BRAIN: why would anyone do movies at first when they are so
> studious:she probably sucked in school that is why she chose movies...she
> should
> have stucked to studying..maybe she would have done something more
> memorable!
Now that sounds bitter.. do you have any personal hassles with her???
May be not for you, but I can bet there are scores of guys for whom
Madhuri has done lots of memorable things.. I am glad she "stucked" to
acting :) whether she sucked in school or not I dunno.. (she most
probably didnt.. was doing Microbiology, no joke) but she surely doesn't
as far as beauty is concerned.
- Peeyush
Thought for the mail:
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"I quite agree with you," said the Duchess; "and the moral of
that is -- `Be what you would seem to be' -- or, if you'd like it put
more simply -- `Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it
might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not
otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be
otherwise.'"
-- Lewis Carrol, "Alice in Wonderland"
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Ikram Ahmed Khan
Peeyush Ranjan wrote:
> And yes.. back to your
> dear Sribaby. At around the same time, she came in lotsa movies with
> Jeetendra. First of all.. look at her choice.. Jeetendra of all
> people!!!!
Ummm... Was that supposed to be a compliment to "Sribaby"?? :)
Reshma
On Thu, 22 May 1997, Peeyush Ranjan wrote:
>
> > Get real, watch her in chalbaaz. Madhuri is JUST AS FAT IF NOT MORE>>watch
> > yaarana, koyla, rajkumar, khalnayak, should i go on?????
>
> Seems like you have some janam janam ka bair with Madhuri. Who are you
> talking about as being FAT?? You mention Chalbaaz for Sridevi and then
When i said, watch her in chalbaaz...i meant she looked more anorexic than
ever...i saw her in a concert, she looked very slim for her height. She
looked very beautiful when she and anil kapoor performed " kate nahin kati
hai yeh raat"
> come up with all the recent movies of Madhuri. If you compare that way,
> go and watch Hifazat, one of the first few movies Madhuri appeared in.
> Anil picks her up by her waist in one scene, and almost the whole waist
> could fit in one hand of his. Now is that fat?? And yes.. back to your
Maybe you are the one who didnt understand what i was talking about when
i said watch her in chaalbaaz.
I said MADHURI IS JUST AS FAT AS SRIDEVI IN RECENT MOVIES....if you think
i am just saying this because i have something against her, then you need
to see yaarana, rajkumar and other recent movies of her. ofcourse madhuri
was slim way back then...but just like the rest of us, she has changed
over the years.....but compared to other actresses, she has also gained
some weight.
dear Sribaby. At around the same time, she came in lotsa movies with
> Jeetendra. First of all.. look at her choice.. Jeetendra of all
> people!!!! Anyway, we are talking about figure here. So, she was the one
What's is wrong with jeetendra? He is a good actor. Madhuri has done two
movies with him also. what is your point?!?!?!?
> who made the term "thunder thighs" a common phrase. Ohmygod.. look at
> her thighs in Himmatwala.. looks like two fat blobs of meat supporting a
> third blob.
Yeah i know that, but that look was in back then, so she would have
vanished into thin air as an actress...think about the time period first
then talk about the title!
>
> Of course, as far as acting goes, IMHO, Sridevi is far beyond Madhuri.
> Madhuri is an average actress.. can not emote crying and emotionally
> heavy scenes very effectively, something which SriDevi is really good
> at. But as far as beauty goes, Sridevi is no comparison for Madhuri.. it
> is not a fair game.. Madhuri is much above Sridevi.
>
Get REAL! Sridevi is JUST AS beautiful as MADHURI, when did i say
otherwise...you got some serious problems with sridevi(the best solution
for you to ignore her movies)
To me madhuri has a traditional indian face of kinda like sati-savitri,
something like nargis in mother india...she looks exceptional in saris.
Whereas sridevi has a round bubbly face for the dresses kinda, she looks
great in western clothes, saris dont suit her face at all, but she can
look great, example chandni and judaai.I disagree, i think madhuri does an
fantastic job with heavy sense but flunks in comedy.
> In case you don't know... Sri Devi was listed as one of the ugliest cine
> celebrities of the world by Time (I think it was Time).
>
Boy i can think of other celebrities who are uglier than sridevi, are you
saying they said that madhuri is prettier? Why would time magazine choose
such an insulting topic, i would expect something better from a
world-renouned mag.
> >
> > NOt even 1/2 cent for madhuri---she is redundant!!!!!!
>
> Oh.. is she?? And the producers have been stupid to still be signing her
> up, eh? Can you imagine an Ek Do Teen without Madhuri's smiles?? You
> may, but no _guy_ can.. believe me.
>
Producer want star who will give them profit, they dont give a damn about
what kinda acting he/she is doing...i wouldnt blame her 100%, but she
signs movies with directors who is willing to pay her enough money,
because they "believe" she brings in the doe.
> >
> > Who says people pay attention when madhuri acts??? all her acting wise
> > movies have flopped..people want to watch madhuri show her FAT BELLY than
>
> Since when has a flop or a hit been a measure of the actor/actress's
> acting capability?? If that was the case pathetic acting examples, like
> SRK's in Darr, would have been a flop. There is a lot more which goes
> into making a movie a hit.
that is why indian commercial movies are laughed at, because what makes a
good actor/.actress is determined by their acting abilities. SRK was great
at what he did in DARR. Indian stars cannot measure up to western star,
because they are not given the chance to prove what they stand for, that
is acting!!! That is why art films usually flop, because they have
character development and brilliant performances. That is why commercial
movies such as Anjaam,
Damini, Sadma, Lamhe, Bhairavi,
other heroine oriented movies have flopped.
>
> I don't say that Madhuri is extraordinary actor.. but she surely can
> act. Why people pay attention is something to be wondered about here..
> since I know I don't pay attention to watch her act.. I just like her
> presence on the screen.. and she looks good IMHO.
>
I dont think she would approve of her "fan" saying that, i think she want
people to flock to the theater to watch her perform not dance. I am sure
she doesnt like to be thought of like that..she is highly accomplished
actress and she deserves to be treated like one. I am for one is looking
forward to seeing her in mrityudand.
>
> Now that sounds bitter.. do you have any personal hassles with her???
No, i myself am a microbiology student, and wonder why would anyone take a
360 turn to acting from such a fasinating subject.
> May be not for you, but I can bet there are scores of guys for whom
> Madhuri has done lots of memorable things.. I am glad she "stucked" to
> acting :) whether she sucked in school or not I dunno.. (she most
> probably didnt.. was doing Microbiology, no joke) but she surely doesn't
> as far as beauty is concerned.
> When did is ay that she sucked in beauty? man you are putting words in
my mouth...now that sucks!
Reshma
Peeyush Ranjan
Prasad Tammana wrote:
> Doesn't sound like you know it either. Its hard to believe that Time
> will come up with such a topic as "ugliest cine celebrities", sounds more
> like a "National Enquirer" headline. I'd be curious as to which issue it
> is, so I can try to get hold of it. No, that won't change my opinion on
> how Sridevi looks, but will just tell me how opinionated articles in Time
> can be and maybe I'll cancel my subscription to Time and save some money :-)
It was not meant to sound so bad!!!
Time came out with a top-list of famous people who are not good looking
but are still famous movie stars. From India featured Sri Devi, Amitabh
Bachchan and NT Rama Rao.
BTW, I had very clearly added a "(I think it was Time)" which should b
enough to imply that I am not sure about who was it.. and anyway, it was
in 1987-88 so it is not amazing that I don't remember the magazine.. it
might even be National Geographic :) (just kidding.. don't go crazy on
that one now).
> > Now that sounds bitter.. do you have any personal hassles with her???
>
> Comparison aside, when you called Sridevi plain ugly, or at least sounded like
> you concur with what you claim to be the judgement of Time, I wanted to ask you
> the same question - do you have any personal hassles with her???!!!
I have no personal hassles with SriDevi.. but the original post was
putting Madhuri down in every aspect.. acting, looks, everything.. it
said Madhuri sucked in all aspects. Now that was what I had hassles
about. Madhuri is no day worse looking that Sridevi.. no way! I was just
giving points in favor of my opinion.
--
- Peeyush
Thought for the mail:
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You're never too old to become younger.
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shr...@imap1.asu.edu
Reshma (gs0...@panther.Gsu.EDU) wrote:
: Who says people pay attention when madhuri acts??? all her acting wise
: movies have flopped..people want to watch madhuri show her FAT BELLY than
: her BRAIN:
Oh..u see Sridevi to check out how much BRAIN (as defined by u) that she has got, huh?
: why would anyone do movies at first when they are so
: studious:she probably sucked in school that is why she chose movies...she
: should
: have stucked to studying..maybe she would have done something more
: memorable!
: Reshma
And u know it better, right?
Seems like u are too itched at Madhuri's success rate with today's guys to
make any reasonable discussion.
Madhuri beats Sridevi in Presence and Beauty any day; the reverse is true when it
comes to Histrionic acting.
Shridhar.
Iqbal Maskatiya
Muqudar wrote:
>
> Watch the opening credits of HAHK with Madhuri in black and white,
> looking the camera in the eye and singing the theme song. That's what I
> call presence. Sri Devi laughing a-- off in LAMHE and screaming her lungs
>
> off in KHUDA GAWAH also has a strong presence... but not necessarily the
> type
> of presence that I enjoy.
>
>
> - Sadat
>
> Well, you sound like Madhuri is all that... but she isn't... Sri made a
> really good impression in both of those movies... watch 'em again and this
> try pay attention
Madhuri has been compared to Madhubala, the most beautiful of Indian
actors (PC) of all time. Her images in HAHK were outstanding; such that
the great Indian painter Hussain was inspired to do a series on her.
Sridevi is attractive but so is everyone else in Bollywood ( used very
loosely ) however, it takes something very special to be Madhuri Dixit.
She is a fine actor and she should be appreciated. Sridevi is also a
good actor ( though her "idiot" acting still gets on my nerves ) and
should be appreciated for her popularity; howver, when compared, Madhuri
Dixit wins.
Iqbal Maskatiya
Muqudar
: Reshma
Shridhar.
Umm.... you are wrong Shridhar....... Sridevi is the best.... I think Tabu
has a better chance than Madhuri... to come to Sridevi level performance
and looks.....
Ikram Ahmed Khan
Iqbal Maskatiya wrote:
> Madhuri has been compared to Madhubala, the most beautiful of Indian
> actors (PC) of all time.
Nice way of putting it. :) I disagree with anybody who says that, btw...
And Madhuri looks 'traditional' as Nargis is "traditional"!!!!!
Can't we find enough adjectives that we have to use such silly
metaphors?? Sridevi ko Sridevi rehne do aur Madhuri ko Madhuri...
And now, continue the fight....
What is PC tho??
Later,
Ikram.
Muqudar
True I don't see any smilarities between Madhuri and Madhubala except that
their names start with a Madhu..... How dare you try to degrade the
immoral Madhubala by comparing her with Madhuri.... that is wrong... they
are two different persons and don't look a dimes worth a like... people
just made that connection just because of the name (Madhu)... I disagree
strongly....
Muqudar
Ok here is the real fact... this is coming straight from Madhuri.... she
said that Sridevi is still number one in her opinion (acting-wise) she has
also stated that She doesn't look good in real life... Madhuri said "I
just look good on the screeen." that is fact enough coming from the
actress that some of you admire... she is not a bad actress.. she is
better than the new bunch... but I am just stating that she is not better
than sridevi in acting.... looks I will give credit to Madhuri for that
smile (even though I personally believe that Sridevi has a better one or
just as nice) and I would also like to give Sridevi credit for her
eyes.... eyes reflect more beauty than smiles... sridevi has those perfect
eyes... Madhuri's are too small.... atleast Sridevi can compare with
Madhuri with the smile...but Madhuri can't even come close to Sri when it
comes to eyes... is there anyone on this planet... who can??!?!?!?!?!?!
Avinash Ghirnikar
for all those we wax eloquent about sridevi's beauty keep one *fact* in mind:
her face has been visited by a surgeon's scalpel - she has had plastic surgery.
in particular, a *nose* job. given this situation all references to her
ethereal beauty etc. are moot!!
also remember that india today had run a cover story on madhuri about her
becoming a *one-woman* industry (plagiarizing the one-man industry term coined
for amitabh) - circa when *raja* was to be released! so sheer
success wise, she has been the only actress who has even evoked comparisons
to the great bachchan.
liking somebody's acting style is a matter of opinion. i find sridevi's voice
and overdone mannerisms extremely irritating. in fact, got a kick out of
madhuri's impression of sridevi (done with aplomb and ease just for a few
fleeting seconds) in khalnayak!
--
avinash
Ikram Ahmed Khan
Avinash Ghirnikar wrote:
> also remember that india today had run a cover story on madhuri about her
> becoming a *one-woman* industry (plagiarizing the one-man industry term coined
> for amitabh) - circa when *raja* was to be released! so sheer
> success wise, she has been the only actress who has even evoked comparisons
> to the great bachchan.
Sri has also been called the female AB. Remember all the hype while
Khudagawah was being made... Also, the press reports during Sherni
and Inquilaab & so on... Heck, HemaM has been called a one-woman
industry for her success with Ramkali!!
Let's stick to Sridevi has a bad voice, and Madhuri has a big tummy
& so on, shall we? :) :) :) Oooops, I forgot the fake nose.... :)
Round 1 - Madhuri, huh??
Later,
Ikram.
Ikram Ahmed Khan
Muqudar wrote:
>
> True I don't see any smilarities between Madhuri and Madhubala except that
> their names start with a Madhu..... How dare you try to degrade the
> immoral Madhubala by comparing her with Madhuri.... that is wrong...
I am sure he meant 'immortal'... So, stop laughing, y'all.... :(
Later,
Ikram.
Muqudar
Later,
Ikram.
Yes I did thanks Ikram :)
V. Chowdary Jampala
In article <338C5BA4...@raleigh.ibm.com>, Ikram says...
>
>Avinash Ghirnikar wrote:
>> also remember that india today had run a cover story on madhuri about her
>> becoming a *one-woman* industry (plagiarizing the one-man industry term coined
>> for amitabh) - circa when *raja* was to be released! so sheer
>> success wise, she has been the only actress who has even evoked comparisons
>> to the great bachchan.
>
>Sri has also been called the female AB. Remember all the hype while
>Khudagawah was being made... Also, the press reports during Sherni
>and Inquilaab & so on... Heck, HemaM has been called a one-woman
>industry for her success with Ramkali!!
Don't forget Rekha in 1984/5 (Harry Reasoner in 60 minutes did an
interview with her and Sunday carried her on cover with the title 'Queen
Bee).
Regards. --- V. Chowdary Jampala
SapnaW1
I thought all those movies of Sri Devi were good but I must add
"Kudha Gwava" and "Tofa" and "Chandani"
Muqudar
Hi Sapna.... welcome :)
jahangir...@yahoo.com
> She is the best thing that has happened to Indian Cinema... She has the
> best talent, best dancing abilities, best face, best eyes, best VOICE
> (yes, she sounds nice), Best Smile (look at her in Ram Avitar), Best
> personality... no overacting; no underacting....good hit songs unlike...
> Madhuri (Chole ke Peche... and Dakh Dakh Karne Laga)... Lamhe... no one
> could have done a better job than her in that movie... Madhuri would have
> flopped...having known the fact that Lamhe was a flop in India... I
> believe that it was not because of her acting it became a flop... it was
> because India was not ready to accept that story... (by the way wonderful
> dancing and acting in Lamhe)... Nagina... EXCEPTIONAL!!!!!!! Look at her
> dance there... now Madhuri can't even come close!!!!!! Laadla, Lamhe,
> Chaandni, Judaai... look at all of the different roles Sridevi has done...
> she has proven herself in all of them!!! She has even proven herself in
> outrageous movies such as Nagina and Chandramukhi....She has talent and
> experience.... Sridevi did not become popular like Madhuri did... Sridevi
> didn't do dance numbers like that from Teezab, Khalnayak, Beta... you
> don't see Sridevi doing that... Sridevi became popular because of
> heartwarming movies like Lamhe, and comedy movies such as Mr. India.. and
> good movies such as Sadma... She has proven herself again.. with Judaai...
> that role was meant for her... If Madhuri would have done that role...
> Madhuri would have been declared a flop right away..... In my opnion
> Sridevi saved that movie from being a disasterous flop with her acting...
> not even Urmila could have saved it.... only the best of the best...
> Sridevi.....could have and did so.... and there is no way Anil could have
> saved it... he needs to save his career... Sridevi has represented Indian
> Cinema quite well.... She delivers comedy (best comedian actress... no,
> Madhuri can't compare), best sensitive movies (chaandni), best social
> movies (Judaai)... what else is there?? And for those of you who hate
> her... there is a message for you... She said herself that she is not
> going to stop coming in movies... she will continue to make her presence
> felt.... She is the best... no doubt about it... if you have any comments
> please do email me... and please support your comments with good
> evidence.... thank you......
As mature adults, we should STOP comparing Sridevi with Madhuri. Both are brilliant actresses. Even both of them confessed that they are not rivals. And even if there's a rivalry between them, it's healthy. I think both Sridevi and Madhuri had the exceptional merit of carrying a film on their own shoulders. They never let themselves to be overshadowed by their heroes. They both were great dancers. Of course, as an individual, both Sridevi and Madhuri are different. I guess, Juhi Chawla can't dance like Sridevi or Madhuri but she's a wonderful actress. If Sridevi can pull off a Charlie Chaplin to perfection in Mr. India then Madhuri can brilliantly pull off the disguise of a fat, old woman in Raja. None is lesser than the other. Both of them are perfect in their own ways. Some people say that Sridevi enjoyed more success than Madhuri. This might be true due to the fact that Sridevi didn't have any tough contender in her time apart from Meenakshi Seshadri who was not even a regular at movies at that point of time. While Madhuri had a series of contenders like Juhi, Manisha Koirala, Kajol and even Karisma Kapoor at her time. But even then, Madhuri held herself well in movies that she did. I think we should stop being childish by pitting Madhuri against Sridevi. Both of them are gems!
