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May 24, 2010, 3:03:58 AM5/24/10
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In article <b985e9b3-8031-4c3d...@a39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Mirza Ghalib <mgha...@yahoo.com> posted:
>
> This was an real incident which took place about 10 years ago.
> The place was near Meerut in Uttar Pradesh. A Muslim soldier, Arif,
> gets married to young girl, Gudiya (means doll in Hindi), but has to
> report to the army shortly after. He was captured by the Pakis, and
> like others kept in captivity for several years, during which no one
> on the Indian side knew his whereabouts. Eventually he was
> declared a deserter, and presumed lost by the family. After six years
> of waiting without a clue, under pressure from her parents the girl
> is married another suitor, Taufiq. They bond, she is pregnant with
> his child, when life takes an unexpected turn. Arif is released, is in
> good
> standing, and returns to his home. He wants to get his wife back.
>
> Now interesting questions arise because of Islam. Since there
> was no formal divorce, a local Mullah decrees that she must
> return to Arif. The soon-to be-born child would stay with the mother,
> Emotions did not count, and the wishes of the girl were immaterial.
> It did happen that way. There was anguish for the girl all along.
> Finally the girl succumbed in 2006 to emotional upheavals and
> "organ failures", as reported in a 2008 movie, "Kahani Gudiya Ki."
>
> II recently watched it on a Disk. In my own opinion, it is a very good
> movie. If Islam did not come in the picture, what should have been
> the right place for Gudiya under the new circumstances? In my
> opinion, she should have stayed with the second husband.
>
> In the movie the names of the two husband have been changed to
> Aslam and Feroz, respectively. As a post script both husbands
> have remarried, the child has been given to Gudiya's mother and
> father
> for raising, even though the natural father should have raised him,
> according to Islam.
>
> Perhaps expectedly, Muslims have been demanding a ban on this
> movie. See the following news item:
>
> http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/hindi/article/38237.html
>
> If you are going to plunk nine dollars to watch crap like
> "My Nane is Khan", two dollars in a DVD rental for the "Kahani"
> is a better investment.

If it were to be remade into the typical libtard, Hollywood movie of
today, the two *husbands* would marry each other, raise the kid and
live happily in San Francisco, or Mumbai for that matter.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

Mirza Ghalib

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May 25, 2010, 12:00:08 AM5/25/10
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On May 24, 12:03 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> In article <b985e9b3-8031-4c3d-b580-8454e402d...@a39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
>  Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:

And both would have kids from the bride in common
by artificial insemination.

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May 25, 2010, 10:55:56 AM5/25/10
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In article <fad21089-bb83-45a3...@s4g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
Mirza Ghalib <mgha...@yahoo.com> posted:

> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> > In article <b985e9b3-8031-4c3d-b580-8454e402d...@a39g2000prb.googlegroups=
> ..com>,
> > =A0Mirza Ghalib <mghali...@yahoo.com> posted:

> >
> > > This was an real incident which took place about 10 years ago.
> > > The place was near Meerut in Uttar Pradesh. A Muslim soldier, Arif,
> > > gets married to young girl, Gudiya (means doll in Hindi), but has to
> > > report to the army shortly after. He was captured by the Pakis, and
> > > like others kept in captivity for several years, during which no one
> > > on the Indian side knew his whereabouts. Eventually he was
> > > declared a deserter, and presumed lost by the family. After six years
> > > of waiting without a clue, under pressure from her parents the girl
> > > is married another suitor, Taufiq. They bond, she is pregnant with
> > > his child, when life takes an unexpected turn. Arif is released, is in
> > > good
> > > standing, and returns to his home. He wants to get his wife back.
> >
> > > Now interesting questions arise because of Islam. Since there
> > > was no formal divorce, a local Mullah decrees that she must
> > > return to Arif. The soon-to be-born child would stay with the mother,
> > > Emotions did not count, and the wishes of the girl were immaterial.
> > > It did happen that way. There was anguish for the girl all along.
> > > Finally the girl succumbed in 2006 to emotional upheavals and
> > > "organ failures", as reported in a 2008 movie, "Kahani Gudiya Ki."
> >
> > > II recently watched it on a Disk. In my own opinion, it is a very good
> > > movie. If Islam did not come in the picture, what should have been
> > > the right place for Gudiya under the new circumstances? =A0In my

> > > opinion, she should have stayed with the second husband.
> >
> > > In the movie the names of the two husband have been changed to
> > > Aslam and Feroz, respectively. As a post script both husbands
> > > have remarried, the child has been given to Gudiya's mother and
> > > father
> > > for raising, even though the natural father should have raised him,
> > > according to Islam.
> >
> > > Perhaps expectedly, Muslims have been demanding a ban on this
> > > movie. See the following news item:
> >
> > >http://www.indiaglitz.com/channels/hindi/article/38237.html
> >
> > > If you are going to plunk nine dollars to watch crap like
> > > "My Nane is Khan", two dollars in a DVD rental for the "Kahani"
> > > is a better investment.
> >
> > If it were to be remade into the typical libtard, Hollywood movie of
> > today, the two *husbands* would marry each other, raise the kid and
> > live happily in San Francisco, or Mumbai for that matter.
> >
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> And both would have kids from the bride in common
> by artificial insemination.

In the story now, the bride needs a goal beyond raising the children
and keeping peace in the family. What shall that be? Conflicts need
to be created, and also a sub-protagonist to help her achieve her goal.

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