why aus is so violent
harmony
partisan thingy - they call it god - which wants others killed.
as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera and
straighten out the mess.
http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/
Seon Ferguson
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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What about India? Your racist government believes they are superior just
because they lie and say they have had more lives. The racist barbaric caste
system is even worse then our system. Hypocrite.
Hunter
<snip>
Easy question to answer, managed it in the subject line.
Arindam Banerjee
The Govt. is not super religious, dear bundree. Many people are religious
(80% if you believe stats).
> which means they have a mono partisan thingy - they call it god - which
> wants others killed.
No, you stupid bundree. The Jehovah God of the Jews that most worship in
Oz tells people to behave properly, by giving them ten commandments. Thou
shalt not kill - is one of the ten commandments.
> as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera
> and straighten out the mess.
heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh-heh
Australia today leads the world in soundness of finances, excellence in
living conditions, peacefulness of existence, wealth of beauty and creative
insight, capacity for superb research, leisure and grace, tolerance and
diversity - for the vast majority of genuine Australians.
Cheers, bundree. Up your tail, swing in joy, go eat a banana.
Arindam Banerjee.
>
> http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/
>
>
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
HD
No, it is because we have too many Indians here.
harmony
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lookie here, dear. no opposition political party in india is makin an issue
of things you are cookin up in well known predictable kirastani style. but
we all know for a fact that the aus opposition is making an issue of
religion there. there.
Arindam Banerjee
> news:4b7c691f$0$12440$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>> it is because the oz govt is super religious - which means they have a
>> mono partisan thingy - they call it god - which wants others killed.
>> as they say, like leaders like people. time for u.n. to step in canbera
>> and straighten out the mess.
>>
>> http://www.democrats.org.au/campaigns/separation_of_church_and_state/
>>
>>
> What about India?
It is a rotten state ruled by a mediocre foreign (and white) woman with very
many corrupted or stupid sycophants in her tow. She is voted to power
because the population thinks that the right-wing alternative (harmony-class
bundurrHindus supported by jBm-class bundurrJews and their rich and
unscrupulous WASP slaves) is worse.
> Your racist government believes they are superior just because they lie
> and say they have had more lives.
The government of India has had nothing good or useful to do with genuine
Indians for nearly a thousand years. Because India has been enslaved for
nearly a thousand years, and the process continues.
> The racist barbaric caste system is even worse then our system.
heh-heh, why do oz racists have issues with the Indian caste system? Caste
is not racist at all - it is endogamous and very useful. For it allows the
retention of skills, group values and unity, in an atmosphere of personal
freedom, and quite irrespective of state authority.
What exactly is the oz system? As far as I can see, it is based upon a
bunch of cynical clowns on TV or radio making wisecracks.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Note: bundurr means monkey
Check out:
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Hypocrite.
>
Chris Diesel
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You accuses Australians of being racist and them claim the Indian Caste
system is not racist. Now I've heard it all, that would have to be one of
the most stupid statements I've ever heard! Presumably, maintaining India's
child work force, killing your wife over a dowry dispute, throwing a wife
onto her husband funeral pyre and killing female babies are all ok with you
too?
> What exactly is the oz system? As far as I can see, it is based upon a
> bunch of cynical clowns on TV or radio making wisecracks.
I can see you just plan stupid and ignorant.
> Cheers,
> Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
"Chris Diesel" <die...@noaddress.com.au> wrote in message
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When I say "oz racists" I mean just that. I don't accuse all Australians of
being racist, I say that there are such things as oz racists. It does NOT
mean that all Australians are racists. You have comprehension issues, I am
afraid.
There are most certainly horrible racists in Australia, and the Herald-Sun
has just published the photos of two white racists who beat a sweet harmless
black Sudanese boy to death just because he was black and they wanted a beat
him to death simply because he was black. Since these two racists are now
in jail, put there by decent Australians who form the majority that is,
there is no question of this majority supporting the racist murderers.
Life here in Australia is rather less violent on the whole. Going by my own
experience, that is. But then, I have led a comparatively privileged life
here, and the new immigrants are facing much more hardship than I had to.
Of course, any non-white can be murdered by the racists, as this guy was.
But in India, too, you could be shot or blown up by Sikh terrorists, Muslim
fanatics, ideologically driven Naxals, police shootings, religious riots,
wars, etc. Then there are the ordinary criminals, who while comparatively
non-violent are nevertheless not exactly peaceful. Then there are diseases,
famines, floods, strikes, gheraos, processions, snakes... no end to
excitement of a perilous nature in India.
Just the luck of the draw - if you get the short straw, you are up for it!
> and them claim the Indian Caste
> system is not racist.
It is not racist, as I said. It is however endogamous, meaning that one
marries within the caste. Within the caste you may have black, brown,
yellow, white complexions - these complexions corresponding ot various races
are all acceptable in principle but the fairer the colouring the higher the
chances of appreciation. So the caste system is not racist - but if the
racists want to maintain their racism, caste is a useful system to follow.
That way, a white caste could remain white, by being endogamous (whites only
marrying whites). Thus, oz racists (did I mean you?) need not knock the
caste system, as it should suit them. In other words, caste is not racist
but racists could use caste to maintain their racism. Do you understand?
This is an important point.
> Now I've heard it all, that would have to be one of
> the most stupid statements I've ever heard!
Please read what I have written a bit more carefully, if you can.
> Presumably, maintaining India's
> child work force,
No one maintains that. The child work force exists because they would
starve to death if they did not work. India has not been free for a
thousand years, and there are many evils that result from such a lack of
freedom.
> killing your wife over a dowry dispute,
Not all Indians do that. The foreign racists-bigots would not be screaming
about India's huge population if wives got murdered over dowry disputes!
Anyway, dowry has vanished in those areas where it was strong, thanks to the
killing of females fetuses. Now it is difficult to get girls, around Delhi!
Your thinking is dated. Technological advances have had a vast impact upon
social norms.
> throwing a wife
> onto her husband funeral pyre
In the rare cases of satidaaha (the VOLUNTARY self-immolation of a pure and
noble woman) there was no question of throwing the wife on the funeral pyre.
She would ascend the pyre, in full wedding finery, and perish with the head
of her husband in her lap, in the ultimate display of love and sprituality,
seeking reunion in the afterlife. Only the most noble women were allowed
this privilege. The high quality of family life that Indians enjoy, comes
as a direct consequence of such feminine self-sacrifice.
> and killing female babies are all ok with you
> too?
Not okay with me, for I have two daughters who are now independent and
happy. Yes the Delhi and female doctor told us that we could have them
killed, but we were shocked instead. But why should racist-bigots object to
Indians killing female babies, there will surely be less brown and pagan
Indians as a result? Evidently, emotion beats self-interest! :) :)
>> What exactly is the oz system? As far as I can see, it is based upon a
>> bunch of cynical clowns on TV or radio making wisecracks.
>
> I can see you just plan stupid and ignorant.
I am the greatest genius of all time. Proofs below:
http://adda-enterprises.com/MMInt/MMInt.htm
http://adda-enterprises.com/htnwebsite/home.htm
>> Cheers,
>> Arindam Banerjee
>
>
>
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This is one of the best replies in a long time.
Brilliant!
Seon Ferguson
"Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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It sounds like politicians in Australia. Most of us don't want an ETS but
the government is still pushing it. I am willing to admit that the
government uses Hinduism as an excuse to maintain their control. That's what
governments do.
>>>> The racist barbaric caste system is even worse then our system.
>>>
>>> heh-heh, why do oz racists have issues with the Indian caste system?
>>> Caste is not racist at all - it is endogamous and very useful. For it
>>> allows the retention of skills, group values and unity, in an atmosphere
>>> of personal freedom, and quite irrespective of state authority.
>>
Why do Indian racists have a problem with aus racists? Lol
Holly crap while researching it I came across this wikipedia article
Faced with a bewildering array of thousands of autonomous and hierarchically
fluid communities (Jatis), the late 19th century British colonial
administration decided to categorise and rank the entire Hindu population of
India by placing each of the Jatis within the theoretical Varna scheme for
the purposes of the decennial Census, and ostensibly for eventual
administrative convenience.[citation needed] The 1901 Census was led by
Herbert Hope Risley, an ICS officer with strong pet racial beliefs about the
Indian population. Simultaneous with this first ever codification into
secular law of Varna-based caste identities during the British empire,
communities (Jatis) sought to place themselves on higher levels of Varna
categories. On the other hand, most of the Jatis grouped into the lower
caste categories rejected the Varna categories as they found this arbitrary
classification unreasonable, unfair and unacceptable, as it did not reflect
the reality. This newly frozen materialization of caste created a growing
resentment firstly against the system itself and secondly against the
Brahmins, who were seen to be the beneficiaries of the arrangement which now
officially anointed their place at the top of the social hierarchy. The
revolt of the Justice Party and Periyar in the south, by the Maharaja of
Kolhapur and the outstanding scholar Dr Ambedkar in western India against
this, in the early decades of the twentieth century, has had a profound,
long-lasting impact on the Indian society and politics, which continues to
this date.
Dude the Caste system was started by British racists! Why the hell do you
still have it in place! That's fucked up man.
>> You accuses Australians of being racist
>
> When I say "oz racists" I mean just that. I don't accuse all Australians
> of being racist, I say that there are such things as oz racists. It does
> NOT mean that all Australians are racists. You have comprehension issues,
> I am afraid.
> There are most certainly horrible racists in Australia, and the Herald-Sun
> has just published the photos of two white racists who beat a sweet
> harmless black Sudanese boy to death just because he was black and they
> wanted a beat him to death simply because he was black. Since these two
> racists are now in jail, put there by decent Australians who form the
> majority that is, there is no question of this majority supporting the
> racist murderers.
> Life here in Australia is rather less violent on the whole. Going by my
> own experience, that is. But then, I have led a comparatively privileged
> life here, and the new immigrants are facing much more hardship than I had
> to.
> Of course, any non-white can be murdered by the racists, as this guy was.
> But in India, too, you could be shot or blown up by Sikh terrorists,
> Muslim fanatics, ideologically driven Naxals, police shootings, religious
> riots, wars, etc. Then there are the ordinary criminals, who while
> comparatively non-violent are nevertheless not exactly peaceful. Then
> there are diseases, famines, floods, strikes, gheraos, processions,
> snakes... no end to excitement of a perilous nature in India.
> Just the luck of the draw - if you get the short straw, you are up for it!
>
See the majority of Australians are against those racist thugs. But where is
the evidence that attack was racially motivated? Is that what the police
said? Why is it when white people commit a crime against a minority they are
racist but when a minority commits a crime against a white person the crime
is not racially motivated?
>> and them claim the Indian Caste
>> system is not racist.
>
> It is not racist, as I said. It is however endogamous, meaning that one
> marries within the caste. Within the caste you may have black, brown,
> yellow, white complexions - these complexions corresponding ot various
> races are all acceptable in principle but the fairer the colouring the
> higher the chances of appreciation. So the caste system is not racist -
> but if the racists want to maintain their racism, caste is a useful system
> to follow. That way, a white caste could remain white, by being endogamous
> (whites only marrying whites). Thus, oz racists (did I mean you?) need
> not knock the caste system, as it should suit them. In other words, caste
> is not racist but racists could use caste to maintain their racism. Do
> you understand? This is an important point.
>
It was started by the British. Of course it's racist!!!
>> Now I've heard it all, that would have to be one of
>> the most stupid statements I've ever heard!
>
> Please read what I have written a bit more carefully, if you can.
>
I didn't write the other stuff.
Seon Ferguson
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Your freaking government believes in the caste system! Why is it ok for one
government to advocate a religion but bad for another government to advocate
another? All religion is a bunch of made up fairy tales that brainwash
children and try to control us.
harmony
"govt believes in caste system"? what the heck does that mean?
caste sytem is not religion, ok?
speaking of brainwashing, you got a whole bunch of unlearning to do about
caste. the church has done a number on ya - so, what else is new?
Seon Ferguson
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Lol the church didn't tell me shit. I read about the Caste system in a book
about Hinduism. But your right it has nothing to do with Hinduism and in
fact I agree with Hinduism and Buddhism more then Christianity. I believe in
karma and reincarnation and God (which is why I am not a Buddhist) but dude
the church hasn't had any affect on me in a long time. I don't even believe
Jesus was a historical figure! I think he was basically just a result of a
bunch of recycled myths that were turned Jewish in hopes that the Jews would
think he was the Messiah. Plus none of the characters in the OT existed so I
don't know where you get this "I'm brainwashed by the church" stuff.
As for the gvt believes in the caste system you said the opposition in
Australia believes in religion so I meant the government in India supports
the Caste system.
Arindam Banerjee
>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Arindam Banerjee
>
> This is one of the best replies in a long time.
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Thanks!
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Arindam Banerjee
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I don't know what you mean. Does the Aus govt use Hinduism as an
excuse to maintain control - like, do they say sotto voce that if you
don't do this or that we will all turn Hindus and look at what the
Hindus are like in India?
> >>>> The racist barbaric caste system is even worse then our system.
>
> >>> heh-heh, why do oz racists have issues with the Indian caste system?
> >>> Caste is not racist at all - it is endogamous and very useful. For it
> >>> allows the retention of skills, group values and unity, in an atmosphere
> >>> of personal freedom, and quite irrespective of state authority.
>
> Why do Indian racists have a problem with aus racists? Lol
They are of different colours, and experience competition. One lot
tries to gain a footing, the other lot tries to dislodge.
I don't think you understood what you yourself quoted. The quote was
very useful, by the way, so thanks. There has always been enormous
competition among the jatis in India, just as there is competition
between the white and non-white racists in Australia now. Two
different castes, see?
In this case, it definitely was racially motivated and the Herald-Sun
gave a front-page report. The judge thought the attack was racially
motivated. The defendant said that he had once helped a black guy,
but that was not extenuating.
> Why is it when white people commit a crime against a minority they are
> racist but when a minority commits a crime against a white person the crime
> is not racially motivated?
It may be that the white guy does it for sport/fun (as in this
instance) whereas the black guy does it out of criminality (for
robbery, etc.) If the black guy says he did it for sport/fun then
yes it is racially motivated.
> >> and them claim the Indian Caste
> >> system is not racist.
>
> > It is not racist, as I said. It is however endogamous, meaning that one
> > marries within the caste. Within the caste you may have black, brown,
> > yellow, white complexions - these complexions corresponding ot various
> > races are all acceptable in principle but the fairer the colouring the
> > higher the chances of appreciation. So the caste system is not racist -
> > but if the racists want to maintain their racism, caste is a useful system
> > to follow. That way, a white caste could remain white, by being endogamous
> > (whites only marrying whites). Thus, oz racists (did I mean you?) need
> > not knock the caste system, as it should suit them. In other words, caste
> > is not racist but racists could use caste to maintain their racism. Do
> > you understand? This is an important point.
>
> It was started by the British. Of course it's racist!!!
No, the jati system existed for millenia. The British tried to put the
jatis under the varna system, and the different varnas they renamed as
castes. I don't think you understand, but never mind.
>
> >> Now I've heard it all, that would have to be one of
> >> the most stupid statements I've ever heard!
>
> > Please read what I have written a bit more carefully, if you can.
>
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Anyone has an answer to such question
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> posted:
Most people don't know that the word "caste" is foreign to Bharat.
Seon Ferguson
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Even though you are a hater I will point out that Brittan was the one who
introduced the caste system so they could use it to control people. It has
as much to do with Hinduism and Binladen has to do with Islam.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
"Seon Ferguson" <seo...@gmail.com> posted:
> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
> > - Jai Maharaj
> Even though you are a hater . . .
I am not a hater; I was not brought up as a Muslim or Christian.
I am a Hindu.
> I will point out that Brittan was the one who
> introduced the caste system so they could use it to control people. It has
> as much to do with Hinduism and Binladen has to do with Islam.
My post from last year:
HINDUISM IS NOT TO BLAME FOR TYRANNY OF CASTE SYSTEM
By Dr. Vidya Bhushan Gupta
The vast majority of Westerners believe that Hinduism ranks its
followers according to caste.
Missionaries have used caste to convert Hindus, and politicians
throughout the world have used it to chastise India for social ills
ranging from poverty to nuclear explosions. Hindus have been tarred
with labels such as "Homo hierarchical." And Hinduism has been
characterized as a religion that teaches indifference to the plight
of fellow human beings.
Is the doctrine of caste rooted in revealed Hindu scriptures? Or
did victorious invaders insert it into secondary scriptures in
order to maintain their dominance?
The Vedas, Hinduism's only revealed scriptures, mention varna (from
Sanskrit root vri, meaning "to choose"), a fourfold classification
of chosen vocations. According to the allegory of cosmic Purusha in
the Vedas, all people are created from the same God. The
intellectuals are Brahmins who, like the brain of the cosmic
Purusha, think and speak; the warriors, like the arms, defend;
vaisyas (traders and farmers), like the thighs and the abdomen,
produce and consume; and the shudras (untouchables), like the feet,
do physical labor.
A text in the great Indian epic "Mahabharata" categorically states
that originally there were no classes; all people were Brahmanic to
begin with. The existing distribution arose from character and
occupation. Those given to sensual pleasures and violence became
warriors; those who subsisted by agriculture became vaisyas, and so
on. Thus, group membership was determined by aptitude and attitude,
not by birth.
In ancient times, there were examples of people who moved from one
class to another because of the vocation they chose. For example,
Valmiki, who was an untouchable, became a Brahmin, author, and a
sage after he changed his wild ways and wrote the Hindu epic
"Raamaayan."
Caste or jati as we see today, the hierarchical division of society
into about 2,000 rigid professional groups, is not mentioned in the
Vedas; however, the word "jati" is mentioned once as a group of
people born from a common progenitor. Caste seems to have been
juxtaposed on the concept of varna in secondary Hindu scriptures
such as the Puranas and Manusmriti at a later date. According to
one of the Puranas, in the beginning of time the whole human race
was of uniform perfection and happiness. Separation into castes did
not take place until a later time, when human behavior
deteriorated.
We can only speculate about the reasons for the corruption of these
secondary scriptures. Was it done to maintain the dominance of the
victorious Aryans over the dark-skinned Dravidians (another meaning
of the word "varna" is color)? Was it done to maintain a constant
supply of skilled and semiskilled laborers?
Assigning a specific role to every individual helped India maintain
social order in the face of the barbarian attacks in medieval
times, according to Abbe Dubois, a Christian missionary who worked
in India in the last century. A similar order was also prevalent in
ancient Egypt.
Although this rigid division of labor helped Indian villages
survive political upheavals, it became an instrument of
exploitation and oppression. People who were born from a union of
higher and lower castes and those who did not belong to any caste
became pariahs or untouchables, living on the fringes of society.
Caste is a sociocultural phenomenon in South Asia, not an article
of Hindu faith. Even the most conservative Muslims of Pakistan and
Sikhs of Punjab are caste-conscious. A 27-year-old Pakistani man
attending an American university was prohibited by his conservative
Muslim father from marrying a woman out of his caste. High-caste
Sikhs do not marry among low-caste Sikhs.
Such distinctions are not unusual in societies that have a long
history of colonialism. Catholics were treated as belonging to a
lower caste during the heyday of British rule in Ireland. The
British treated Indians of all castes as pariahs during the days of
the Raj. Slavery existed among the Hebrews in ancient Israel. St.
Paul regarded slavery as legal. "Let every man remain in the
calling in whch he was called. Wast thou a slave when called? Let
it not trouble thee" (1 Corinthians 7:2O-21).
St. Augustine considered slavery an expression of divine order, as
a punishment for sins. Thus the Hindu scriptures cannot be faulted
for caste any more than the Bible can be faulted for slavery.
Social evils are a product of the time, and scriptures should be
interpreted in their historical context.
Though the injustice of the caste system lingers in sections of
Indian society, Hindus and the Indian government have made great
efforts to eliminate this evil. Two reformers of the 19th century,
Raja Ram Mohan Roy and Swami Dayananda, worked tirelessly to argue
the case against casteism.
Dayananda correctly interpreted the Vedas to prove that varna does
not refer to color but to choice, to choose a profession according
to one's aptitude and attitude. Mahatma Gandhi embraced the
untouchables as children of God, lived among them, and died among
them.
India's founding fathers abolished untouchability in 1949 and
incorporated an affirmative-action plan in the constitution. The
Indian constitution guarantees 22.5 percent of the seats for
untouchables and people of lower castes. Affirmative action has
increased to the extent of 50 percent in a few states. India's
current president is from a lower class.
Short of a revolution followed by authoritarian rule, this is the
best Hindus could have done to redeem themselves from the social
sin of caste. Let's not disregard Hinduism's positive aspects:
seeing the world as one family; looking at the virtues in others,
not at their color or caste; and recognizing that God of one color
has produced people of different colors for beauty's sake.
Meanwhile, we must maintain the reform that began more than 50
years ago.
- - -
DR. VIDYA BHUSHAN GUPTA of Closter specializes in
developmental-behavioral pediatrics. He teaches at
two hospitals affiliated with the New York Medical
College and holds a research appointment at Columbia
University. He has written a handbook of developmental-
behavioral pediatrics and has published widely in
scientific journals and in the lay press. A native of
India who came to the United States in 1984, he edited
the newsletter of the Arya Samaj of Bergen County from
1991-1992 and translated Sandhya, the daily prayer of
the Hindus, into English.
* * *
"There is no superior caste. The Universe is the work of the
Immense Being. The beings created by him were only divided into
castes according to their aptitude."
- Mahaabharat, Shanti Parva 188
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Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
Om Shanti
"A king, though endowed with little prowess,
starting on an expedition at the proper time, in
view of the good positions of the planets, achieves
greatness that is eulogised in the scriptures."
- Brhat Samhita, 104.60
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Seon Ferguson
"use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote in
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I'm even more confused now. What is a aptitude and why is one group more
superior than the other? Obviously the British tried to use it for their own
advantage.
Seon Ferguson
"Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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No in Australia all religious groups have equal rights and can practice
their own religion. While some politicians may be devoutly Christian that
doesn't mean it is run on religious principles (despite what the liar Petzl
may tell you) we are a secular country.
Yeah I re read it and now get it. They existed in India at the time but the
British turned it racist, right? And there is competition but we don't
exclude any group based on skin color.
Ok maybe that one was but why is it whenever there is an attack the Indian
media says it is racist? Sure they are racist morons in Australia who give
this great country a bad name. But not every crime committed is racist.
>> Why is it when white people commit a crime against a minority they are
>> racist but when a minority commits a crime against a white person the
>> crime
>> is not racially motivated?
>
> It may be that the white guy does it for sport/fun (as in this
> instance) whereas the black guy does it out of criminality (for
> robbery, etc.) If the black guy says he did it for sport/fun then
> yes it is racially motivated.
>
But what happens if the white guy does it because of a robbery and would
have targeted the student no matter what his or her skin color is? Is that
racist?
Arindam Banerjee
Which part of the Australian constitution says that Australia is a
secular country? Why should anyone think that Australia is a secular
country, when most obviously it is a Christian country? Going by the
vast number of marvellous churches everywhere, the number of holidays
around Easter and Christmas, the high public importance of Archbishops
and Cardinals, the existence of so many private Christian schools, the
door-knocking exercises regularly carried out by Christians, why
should one not think that Australia is a Christian country? What have
other sects including atheists got in comparison? True the Australian
Govt and also the public are tolerant of the minorities such as Hindus
like me - far more than say Saudi Arabia. Thank goodness for that!
Wrong. If anything, the British turned Indians reverse-racists. That
is, they started hating themselves, despising their own ancient
culture, craving the attention of whites, always happy to put
themselves down, in order to gain favour. A great feeling of
inferiority was inculcated. In short they had and have an inferiority
complex, and that a racist does not have! Everything about us is
wrong, whatever they (meaning those blessed with a white backside) say
is right! Such is the attitude of the Abominable Garg, etc.
> And there is competition but we don't
> exclude any group based on skin color.
Don't exclude from what? Who is "we"?
I know. This is very wrong. Sometimes there is racism involved but
definitely not in every case. A long while age my family and I were
attacked, but they were simply drunks and out of their senses. I
managed to reason with the least drunk among them, and I have to say
that my being Indian actually helped in that case. We got away
without harm, and they even gave us a honour salute!
> Sure they are racist morons in Australia who give
> this great country a bad name. But not every crime committed is racist.
In fact most violent crimes done in Australia are not racist in
nature. Crimes within the family, crimes within the mafia, social
evils, etc. are the most common violent crimes and there is no racism
there. Not that they are any more pleasant, though - just plain
evil. Still, on the whole, Australia is much more safe than India.
> >> Why is it when white people commit a crime against a minority they are
> >> racist but when a minority commits a crime against a white person the
> >> crime
> >> is not racially motivated?
>
> > It may be that the white guy does it for sport/fun (as in this
> > instance) whereas the black guy does it out of criminality (for
> > robbery, etc.) If the black guy says he did it for sport/fun then
> > yes it is racially motivated.
>
> But what happens if the white guy does it because of a robbery and would
> have targeted the student no matter what his or her skin color is? Is that
> racist?
No, of course not.
Arindam Banerjee
<australia.mining-pion...@neuf.fr> wrote:
> On Feb 23, 1:29 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone has an answer to such question
They love making money quickly?
FarmI
> Which part of the Australian constitution says that Australia is a
> secular country?
Chapter 5, Section 116.
Arindam Banerjee
"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
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What are the words?
Is there a preamble in the Australian constitution stating that Australia is
a secular country? The Indian constitution has one, where India is
constitutionally a socialist, secular and democratic state.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
Sunny
>
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> news:4b852577$0$25779$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> "Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> Which part of the Australian constitution says that Australia is a
>>> secular country?
>>
>> Chapter 5, Section 116.
>
> What are the words?
Lazy sod.
FarmI
> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> news:4b852577$0$25779$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> "Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>
>>> Which part of the Australian constitution says that Australia is a
>>> secular country?
>>
>> Chapter 5, Section 116.
>
> What are the words?
google will help you find it.
> Is there a preamble in the Australian constitution stating that Australia
> is a secular country?
No.
> The Indian constitution has one, where India is constitutionally a
> socialist, secular and democratic state.
What India has in its Constitution or in any Preamble has no bearing
whatsoever on what Australia has in its Consitution.
Seon Ferguson
" Sunny" <womba...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Why should he look it up? You are the people who made the claim. It is on
you to provide evidence to back up that claim.
Arindam Banerjee
> "Arindam Banerjee" <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>
> news:nzhhn.9622$pv....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> > "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
> >news:4b852577$0$25779$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> >>> Which part of the Australian constitution says that Australia is a
> >>> secular country?
>
> >> Chapter 5, Section 116.
>
> > What are the words?
>
> google will help you find it.
>
> > Is there a preamble in the Australian constitution stating that Australia
> > is a secular country?
>
> No.
>
> > The Indian constitution has one, where India is constitutionally a
> > socialist, secular and democratic state.
>
> What India has in its Constitution or in any Preamble has no bearing
> whatsoever on what Australia has in its Consitution.
Okay, found it in about 60 seconds. Basically they say that a
person's religion will not impact upon any Govt. appointment, all
religious rights will be protected, and so on. Good.
Sounds secular enough to me from the Indian perspective - there
secularism does not mean atheism. Quite the reverse, a secular state
can and should be deeply spiritual as it is genuinely tolerant.
Of course, what is religion and what passes for religion, are two
different things.
Cheers,
Arindam Banerjee
harmony
there is a bible verse at chapter 5, section 116.
Seon Ferguson
"harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Lol thanks for proving my point. That's about as helpful as asking a young
Earth creationist about evolution.
P. Rajah
Since you lazy sods find a simple Google search too taxing(and as for
pradipshit parekh, additionally suffering from hallucinations brought on
by the realization of zero self-worth), here are the words from Chapter
V, Section 116 of the Australian Constitution, along with a reference
where you can read all of it:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any
religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for
prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test
shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust
under the Commonwealth.
Now perhaps pradipshithead parekh aka "harmonkey" can indicate where the
alleged Bible verse is in Chapter 5, Section 116, quoted above.
Seon Ferguson
"Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Good for you but that shows they didn't specifically target Indians. The
Indian media would have you believe there is some sort of conspiracy among
racists to target Indian students. I want to know why?
>> Sure they are racist morons in Australia who give
>> this great country a bad name. But not every crime committed is racist.
>
> In fact most violent crimes done in Australia are not racist in
> nature. Crimes within the family, crimes within the mafia, social
> evils, etc. are the most common violent crimes and there is no racism
> there. Not that they are any more pleasant, though - just plain
> evil. Still, on the whole, Australia is much more safe than India.
>
Yep exactly that isn't to say they are no racists in Australia. Sadly I must
admit they are many people who would hate someone just because of their skin
color.
Seon Ferguson
"P. Rajah" <us...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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I wanted harmony to show us where the Bible verse was. You can't just say
"Do your own research"
Greatest Mining Pioneer of Australia of all Times
Then change towards a more respectful & loving way of life ... indeed
as it is you are as well guilty of the whole set up as the rest ! Look
at your hands & teeth !
... See, reddened with the blood of innocent victims sacrificed on
the altar of your lust, greed & ignorance !
Hence why complain when you pay the bill ?
With kind but sorry regards
Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold Mine)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology
~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~
for background info.
http://warrigalpress.com.au/grule.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/index.html
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/tel/nac.html
http://members.iimetro.com.au/~hubbca/turcaud.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/bbing/stories/s28534.htm
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947
Bob Hawke
the HOT Aussie sun have warped you brain worse than anyone could imagine. Or
on the other hand has it just shrunk - you know just got smaller and smaller
until it's the size of a pin head in a big empty shell.
But all those veins still go in there all feeding that tiny little nodule
which tries to work so hard, but never quite gets there.
You pooer French demented sod !!!
There are a number of things you can do in order to get by with your
affliction.
Firstly you must realize that you have a problem in the first plasce.
Surely you must realize that you are a demented Nutter. If you don't
believe me, please take my word for it, you DEFINITELY are a NUTTER.
The second thing you must do is to minimize the amount of work you give that
poor little pin sized organ of yours. You must treat it with respect and
nurture it.
Don't nover load it. Forget all about that COSMIC BULLSHIT. It's all CRAP.
The third thing you must do is to stop confusing that small organ if yours
with conflicting information. Stop talking with poor old Horus and Titi.
They are with us no longer and no amount of talking to them will do you any
good.
Your worst enemy though are those nasty little fairies at the bottom of your
garden. You must avoid them at ALL costs. They are no good for your small
pin-head sized brain. They fill yoir brain with all sorts of demented CRAP.
The fourth thing you must do, Le-Turd, is to stay away from that cheap red
plonk you French Frogs grow over there. It is full of all sorts of
pollutants from the polluted soil and groundwater you poor Frogs have to
bear over there.
What you need is some good quality Australian wine - not cheap French plonk.
It will poison your brain even further. Remember Napoleon suffered the same
fate. He died from all the poisons which accumulated in his body.
The fifth thing you must do is to stop shoving that rubber hose up your
arse. If God had intended us to do that we would have all been born with
reubber hoses stuck up our arses. It is simply no good for you., Your poor
little arsehole has to cope with too much already. You shit out of it and
you also talk out of it, so it is overworked already.
And Le-Turd stop playing with it, remember it is at the arse end of your
world.
The sixth thing you must do is to stop WANKING. Remember you have been
inducted into the French hall of fame as France's GREATEST WANKER. Have you
heard anything from the city administrators of La Rochelle yet? I sent then
an email about nominating you as a famous person who has lived in La
Rochelle.
The seventh thing you must do is to come to trhe conclusion that you were
wrong all along and that you are not a famous geologist but you are just
some poor demented, deluded French Nutter.
Finally you must apologize and learn how to repent. You must get down on
your knees and bow your head. You must then place your head between your
knees and shove your head up your arse.
If you repent to the correct degree and shove your head up your arse far
enough, you will completely dissappear and your problems (and ours) will be
SOLVED.
FarmI
>> news:nzhhn.9622$pv....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
>>> news:4b852577$0$25779$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>>>> "Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> Which part of the Australian constitution says that Australia is a
>>>>> secular country?
>>>>
>>>> Chapter 5, Section 116.
>>>
>>> What are the words?
>>
>> Lazy sod.
>>
> Why should he look it up? You are the people who made the claim. It is on
> you to provide evidence to back up that claim.
He asked which part of the Constitution says that Aus is a secular country.
He was told which Chapter and Section of the Constitution gives him that
information. He found it because he was given the information.
FarmI
______________________________________
Well religion does tend to reflect personal beliefs. I can't see how
Scientology meets the critera of being a religion, but its followers think
differently.
FarmI
> "Arindam Banerjee" <adda...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
>> I know. This is very wrong. Sometimes there is racism involved but
>> definitely not in every case. A long while age my family and I were
>> attacked, but they were simply drunks and out of their senses. I
>> managed to reason with the least drunk among them, and I have to say
>> that my being Indian actually helped in that case. We got away
>> without harm, and they even gave us a honour salute!
>>
> Good for you but that shows they didn't specifically target Indians. The
> Indian media would have you believe there is some sort of conspiracy among
> racists to target Indian students. I want to know why?
Do you really think that is so hard to figure out? Aren't the reptiles of
the Press the same the world over?
Sensationalism sells better than mere factual reporting. Until culprits are
caught and tried there is no way of knowing if the crimes are racially
biased or if it's just thieves taking advantage of people alone and with
limited chance of the thieves being caught.
Seon Ferguson
"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
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Um exactly
Seon Ferguson
"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
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That idea crossed my mind actually. And it sure as hell works as well.
Arindam Banerjee
The definition and criteria of religion should not be any issue in a
truly secular state. Is this debated?
FarmI
________________________________________
Probably but then only amongst drunks in pubs or in places similar to this
but then you couldn't count pubs or this forum as being in any way serious.
harmony
"FarmI" <ask@itshall be given> wrote in message
this obviously means the whoe australia is behaving unconstitutionally.
Google icw OE stuff Usenet
soc.culture.indian,aus.politics,rec.arts.movies.local.indian,alt.computer.consultants,alt.politics.economics,
FarmI <ask@itshall be given> posting via OE in reply to a posting from
Google Groups, wrote:
See http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
>> Well religion does tend to reflect personal beliefs. I can't see how
>> Scientology meets the critera of being a religion, but its followers think
>> differently
>
> The definition and criteria of religion should not be any issue in a
> truly secular state. Is this debated?
> ________________________________________
See http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
> Probably but then only amongst drunks in pubs or in places similar to this
> but then you couldn't count pubs or this forum as being in any way serious.
See http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
The app. fixes the 'missing ">" problem' , in OE replies
to posts made from Google Groups, without tampering with OE.
The patch was written by an OE user because MS couldn't be bothered.
As a Usenet news reader Goggle makes a passable archive.
So ...... pass.