SPLASHES FROM HINDU MAHASAGAR 6 - Facinating Hindu History by Chand K Sharma *** Jai Maharaj posts
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Splashes from Hindu Mahasagar -- 6 - Facinating Hindu History
Splashes from Hindu Mahasagar -- 6
Facinating Hindu History
Pagan religions all over the world have used icons or symbols to
represent abstract and intangible objects. The fanciful gallery of
mythological deities in Biblical stories, Arabian Nights, and The
Canterbury Tales are collections of human imagination. Blowing of
strong wind would normally be indicated through waving trees, flying
of lighter objects and rising of dust. Similarly super human power of
gods and goddesses has been suggested through four arms, heads, and
other such embellishments. In this connection Hindu history has much
more to offer to the world as a piece of art and literature.
One of the most remarkable features of Hindu history is that unlike
other faiths, it is not confined to any area and time, but historical
characters have imprints left over the entire universe. There are
several descriptions related to inter-planetary movements of not only
of gods and goddesses, but also of sages and mortal beings. The gods,
goddesses and many of the sages are timeless and ever lasting. They
appear and disappear, are clad in glittering costumes, are powerful
and resourceful to grant boons and can inflict destruction through
curse as well. Every God possesses weapons to destroy the evil, as
well as flowers to shower blessings.
Hindus laid greater importance on the preservation of environment
also. Animals and useful plants such as Peepal, Beil, Tulsi, and
Banyan were associated with various gods and goddesses; to be loved,
nurtured, and even worshiped. Sources of water, mountains and other
elements of nature are also respected as gods and goddesses. Animals
were also included in history thereby recognizing their right to co-
exist with others. Even Pig and snakes, hated in other faiths find a
respectable place in Hindu history, since no one is under rated. Many
animals are associated with Gods as carriers. Some animals were given
the status of Gods and goddesses to impress that Omnipresence of the
Almighty.
Every religion has drawn its own concept of heaven and hell that are
comparable to the prevailing of the religion originated. Islamic
Heaven is cool, shady and has plenty of water sources fruit grow and
nymphs are on duty to serve the believers. There Hell is always
burning hot with lot many apparatus of torture in motion to punish
the non believers and worshipers of idols. On the contrary Biblical
Heaven has Sun shine, and their hell is full of Ice. All the
religions have placed heaven above and Hell below. The administration
of heavenly sites is in the hands of Devas, Angles, Nymphs, Hoors and
Apasras who are well versed in the art of dressing up, dancing and
music. Like wise in Hinduism pious people reside in Swarga and
sinners in Narka irresective of their being believers or non-
believers. The only difference is that Narka residents have chances
of relocating themselves in Swarga with good deeds done when they are
reborn. Propagators of religion not believing in re-birth have no
option of relocating even if they atoned later and desired to do some
good.
Though Hindus believe in one God, but view the same God in three
different modes while in action and that is known as the Trinity of
Supreme God:
Brahm is the Creator God. He is traditionally depicted with four
heads, faces and arms. Each head recites one of the four Vedas. The
hands hold a water-pot used in creating life, a string of rosary
beads used to keep track of the Universe's time, the text of the
Vedas, and a lotus flower. He is the husband of goddess Saraswati.
His mount is Hamsa (Swan). Brahm only occasionally interferes in the
affairs of the gods, and even more rarely in mortal affairs. He is
generally painted old, probably to signify that creativity, wisdom,
and experience without resources and power is like an old and
helpless person.
Vishnu is known as preserver. He is usually depicted as a four-armed
humanoid with blue skin, often sitting or resting on a lotus flower
or relaxing on Sheshnag bed with Lakshami (goddess of wealth) in
attendance, indicating a person possessing everything of ultimate
luxury. His mount is Garuda. He is identified with his Avatars
(Incarnations) to re-establish orderliness in the World.
Shiv is the destroyer. Shiv is represented as immersed in deep
meditation, on Mount Kailash. However, even though he represents
destruction, he is viewed as a positive force, the Destroyer of Evil.
His vahan (mount) is 'Nandi', the Bull. He is usually represented by
the symbol of Shiv ling. His consort is 'Parvati', a goddess who
comes in many different forms, one of whom is Kaali, the goddess of
death. As Nataraj Shiv is the Lord of the Dance, and also symbolizes
the dance of the Universe, with all its delicately balanced heavenly
bodies and natural laws which complement and balance each other. He
is also symbolized as doing his great dance of destruction, called
Taandava signifying praleya -- the doom's day, implying total
dissolution of the universe.
All the three reflections are in fact one God performing three
different functions of creation, preservation and finally destruction
same way as a human can be son to the parents, husband to the wife,
and parent of his children. All the three separate functions are
performed by the same person but the person is viewed differently by
his parents, wife and children. The concept of Trinity wraps in
itself the 'Theory of division of power' that was propounded by
Montesquieu of France, much later. Supreme God is personified into
the Trinity of Brahm Vishnu and Shiv. While Brahm, Vishnu and Shiv
function within their respective areas of creativity, preservation,
and destruction respectively and do not trespass or interfere in to
the field of each other's. They consult each other whenever there is
any crisis in the universe. Thus 'Government of the Universe'
reflects 'division of power' as well as 'interdependence' that
Montesquieu preached to the political thinkers of the west in
ninteenth century.
Hindu supreme Gods are not confined to any geopgraphical place and
period. They neither have any beginning or any ending. They are
universal.
Chand K Sharma
End of forwarded message from Chand K Sharma
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
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Franz Gnaedinger
trying to suffocate sci.lang. Is it a coincidence that he began
his new campaign of massive abusement of our scientific group
around New Year, in sight of 2012 ? year of the alleged end of
the Mayan calendar, in reality a false claim based on a wrong
calculation, and even if the long calendar cycle of the Maya
ended in 2012 it would not mean the end of the world, just
a new calendar cycle. The year 2012 makes astrologers
creep out of their holes, they can frighten people again and
sell them their horoscopes. That false doctor Jai Maharaj
sells horoscopes and abuses our forum for making propaganda
for his astrological firm, pretending that he posts in favor of
the Hindu community, while in fact seeing his marekting niche
among those people he apparently believes are especially
prone to superstition, and therefroe the right and yielding
target of his astrological enterprise.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Franz Gnaedinger
Repeating my message because that false doctor Jai Maharaj
is spamming sci.lang at an increasing rate.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Franz Gnaedinger
He is decided to ruin sci.lang.
johnk
> He is decided to ruin sci.lang.
Correction: He HAS decided, not IS decided.
You are two peas in a pod.
Franz Gnaedinger
That false doctor of the false name goes on with his
massive attack of sci.lang, so I repeat my message again.
Franz Gnaedinger
That false doctor of the false name goes on and on
abusing sci.lang.
johnk
> That false doctor of the false name goes on and on
> abusing sci.lang.
I ignore his threads. At least he doesn't take over legitimate
discussions with his own make-believe non-sense, eh Franz?
harmony
"johnk" <jhoba...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5f460b6a-1d8a-48fa...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
if you learn to speak sanskrit, you will understand it all better. it is
really not that hard.
Trond Engen
> "johnk":
>
>>> That false doctor of the false name goes on and on
>>> abusing sci.lang.
>>
>> <<I ignore his threads. At least he doesn't take over legitimate
>> discussions with his own make-believe non-sense, eh Franz?>>
>
> if you learn to speak sanskrit, you will understand it all better. it
> is really not that hard.
Hahaha! Tell that to your Guru Raj. In English.
--
Trond Engen
Panu
> "johnk" <jhobartk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
I would not be surprised to know johnk speaks better sanskrit than Jay
Stevens the fake-Indian from Hawaii.
johnk
I don't know sanskrit. If he posts anything linguistic I wouldn't
know, all I see are off topic posts about priests raping children so I
just ignore him. At least he doesn't take over legitimate threads.
hab...@anony.net
name.
Panu
> He has to be a Pakistani ISI agent out to give Indians a bad
> name.
Hey, that occurred to me already. Probably his Pakhto is better than
his Sanskrit.
Franz Gnaedinger
On and on that false doctor of the false name goes
abusing sci.lang, spammiing our scientific forum,
often with messages on child abuse by Christian
missionaries. This has nothing to do with linguistics,
and reveals a cynic calculation. Who can say anything
against a protest against child abuse? If you protest
against his spamming you are revealed as someone
who secretly supports child abuse, and so, he hopes,
nobody will speak up against his abuse of sci.lang,
instead, belonging to the accused western world,
we are supposed to crumble away in shame and
allow him to go on with his massive attack on our
forum. But he didn't count with me. I raise my voice
against every religious propaganda in here, also
Christian one, I spoke against missioning all my life,
quoting Matthew 7:16: "Ye shall recognize them
by their fruits" - what counts are not words but what
people do, how they live, what example they give.
And most of all I write against child abuse and child
pornography especially in the web, my reasoning
based on my theory of the two pillars of the law.
A couple of years ago I sent a paper of mine to the
top chief of the Zurich police. A minor chief told me
that my letters contain useful ideas. I am active in
these fields, I don't crumble away before the implicit
accusations of that false doctor of the false name
and his cynic calculation that he can make money
out of child abuse, pretending to care for the Hindu
community while all he has in mind is to catch
new customers for his astrological enteprise.
johnk
Was it a request for early release from the ward?
>A minor chief told me
> that my letters contain useful ideas. I am active in
> these fields,
Wow, so you believe a cop but don't trust experts? Your ramblings are
not at all useful since there is no methodology.
Franz Gnaedinger
Franz Gnaedinger
A few days away because I had a flu, and sci.lang
is choked by messages of that sociopath of the
false title and false name.
johnk
.
>
> A few days away because I had a flu, and sci.lang
> is choked by messages of that sociopath of the
> false title and false name.
And you are going to choke it more with your crap.
António Marques
> A few days away because I had a flu, and sci.lang is choked by messages
> of that sociopath of the false title and false name.
See what can happen if you leave us for a second?
Franz Gnaedinger
particular sociopath who calls himself Dr. Jai Maharaj,
using a false name and adorning it with a false title,
pretends to defend the cause of the Hindu community
while just boosting his astrological business, fishing
for clients among the Hindus he apparently considers
an especially superstitious bunch of people. That
sociopath should not be encouraged by another -path,
namely my longtime stalker of the many aliases,
Panu Petteri Höglund alias John Bulkington alias
Patrick Karl alias craoibhin66 alias he himself as his
own good friend and pupil Sean Connor soconn1
alias he himself as his own brother in arms and
stalking aide John Hobart Kyle jhobartkyle johnk
alias he himself as his own bride Annina Kaartinen
alias a Rumanian professor who claims to have
discovered the origin of language alias he himself
as his own bride Maria Kupari.
Franz Gnaedinger
is going on.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Splashes from Hindu Mahasagar -- 6 - Fascinating Hindu History
Franz Gnaedinger
Jai Maharaj and adorns his false name with a false
title goes on massively spamming sci.lang, of the 30
threads presently on the first page of the topics list
15 are by him. I will go on repeating what I have to
say about him, in previous messages quoted below.
My word has a weight, also among the Hindu
community, for I am pointing out the value of Indian
mathematics, I worked about the Harappan tablets,
I can prove that there is a direct line from Harappa
to the Vedic religion, and I can take it up with Dr.
Steve Farmer, assistant of Witzel. Dr. Farmer
felt sorry for me that I believe the nonsense of
Asko Parpola, there being a gap of two thousand
years between 'Pashupati' and the first mentioning
of Murukan. But my work is here to stay, I can show
that the RigVeda go straight back to the mythology
of Ice Age Eurasia. So my word will have a weight
in these matters, my messages will be read again,
and I can tell for sure that Jay Steves who is at present
carrying out his second long-term massive attack on
sci.lang is a sociopath, and a cynic at that, fishing
for clients among the Hindus he considers a particularly
superstitious bunch, trying to win them for his astological
business. He pretends to be defending the Hindu cause,
but he is just making money, and he doesn't care whether
a newsgroup is choked by him, not even if that newsgroup
is seriously concerned with the culture of ancient India,
and providing new and fascinating links between Harappa
and the RigVeda, outwitting Witzel and his adlatus Farmer.
No, that sociopath Jay Stevens aka Dr. Jai Maharaj doesn't
care at all, all he cares about is the money he sucks in
from Hindu clients whom he makes believe his astro-crap.
Franz Gnaedinger
to engage himself for the Hindu community
while all he cares for is the cash he can suck out
of his Hindu clientele whom he considers particularly
prone to superstition, prime material to be ground
in his astrological mill. He found the (almost) perfect
scheme of turning the misery of other people into
money. And he feels that his pseudo-engagement
gives him the right to ruin sci.lang. Jay Stevens
aka Dr. Jai Maharaj is a capital sociopath, a cynic
and a cancer combined.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai
Franz Gnaedinger
Franz Gnaedinger
rid of Jay Stevens alias Dr. Jai Maharaj whom you
call a sad monkey. This morning 20 of 30 threads
on the title page of the Google topics list are by him.
Everything is false about him, his Usenet name,
his title, his pretended engagement for the Hindu
community, his pretended compassion for abused
children. His only concern is to acquire clients who
pay good money for his astrological nonsense,
and he coldly calculates that he can find them
among Hindus: they are many, they are prone
to superstition, and, being of a minor intelligence,
he thinks, they won't see through his cynic scheme
and find out what he really has in mind.
Franz Gnaedinger
johnk
This thread of Dr. J's would be long gone if not for some idiot who
keeps bringing it back. Igonore his threads. He types headers in all
caps so his posts are easy to see and ignore......unlike other trolls.
Franz Gnaedinger
Seven messages in crying titles yesterday. Does the
sociopath now feel a martyr because I maintain this thread,
allowing him to post ever more messages, making ever
more money?
Franz Gnaedinger
name and false title and false engagement encourages
others to abuse our forum for commercial purposes,
see the many sex threads started yesterday.
Franz Gnaedinger
Franz Gnaedinger
I will take measures soon.
Franz Gnaedinger
against that sociopath Jay Stevens aka Dr. Jai Maharaj
who adorns his false name with a false title and believes
he can abuse our scientific forum for his concealed
interest of making money, a real interest hid behind
a false engagement.
> The sociopath goes on and on and on abusing sci.lang.
> I will take measures soon.
>
> > The abuse of sci.lang by the sociopath of the false
> > name and false title and false engagement encourages
> > others to abuse our forum for commercial purposes,
> > see the many sex threads started yesterday.
>
> > > Seven messages in crying titles yesterday. Does the
> > > sociopath now feel a martyr because I maintain this thread,
> > > allowing him to post ever more messages, making ever
> > > more money?
>
> > > > Dusan, where are you?
>
> > > > > Dusan, where are you? We need your help in getting
> > > > > rid ofJayStevensalias Dr. Jai Maharaj whom you
> > > > > call a sad monkey. This morning 20 of 30 threads
> > > > > on the title page of the Google topics list are by him.
> > > > > Everything is false about him, his Usenet name,
> > > > > his title, his pretended engagement for the Hindu
> > > > > community, his pretended compassion for abused
> > > > > children. His only concern is to acquire clients who
> > > > > pay good money for his astrological nonsense,
> > > > > and he coldly calculates that he can find them
> > > > > among Hindus: they are many, they are prone
> > > > > to superstition, and, being of a minor intelligence,
> > > > > he thinks, they won't see through his cynic scheme
> > > > > and find out what he really has in mind.
>
> > > > > >JayStevenswho calls himself Jai Maharaj and
> > > > > > adorns his false name with a false title pretends
> > > > > > to engage himself for the Hindu community
> > > > > > while all he cares for is the cash he can suck out
> > > > > > of his Hindu clientele whom he considers particularly
> > > > > > prone to superstition, prime material to be ground
> > > > > > in his astrological mill. He found the (almost) perfect
> > > > > > scheme of turning the misery of other people into
> > > > > > money. And he feels that his pseudo-engagement
> > > > > > gives him the right to ruin sci.lang.JayStevens
> > > > > > aka Dr. Jai Maharaj is a capital sociopath, a cynic
> > > > > > and a cancer combined.
>
> > > > > > > That sociopathJayStevenswho calls himself
> > > > > > > Jai Maharaj and adorns his false name with a false
> > > > > > > title goes on massively spamming sci.lang, of the 30
> > > > > > > threads presently on the first page of the topics list
> > > > > > > 15 are by him. I will go on repeating what I have to
> > > > > > > say about him, in previous messages quoted below.
> > > > > > > My word has a weight, also among the Hindu
> > > > > > > community, for I am pointing out the value of Indian
> > > > > > > mathematics, I worked about the Harappan tablets,
> > > > > > > I can prove that there is a direct line from Harappa
> > > > > > > to the Vedic religion, and I can take it up with Dr.
> > > > > > > Steve Farmer, assistant of Witzel. Dr. Farmer
> > > > > > > felt sorry for me that I believe the nonsense of
> > > > > > > Asko Parpola, there being a gap of two thousand
> > > > > > > years between 'Pashupati' and the first mentioning
> > > > > > > of Murukan. But my work is here to stay, I can show
> > > > > > > that the RigVeda go straight back to the mythology
> > > > > > > of Ice Age Eurasia. So my word will have a weight
> > > > > > > in these matters, my messages will be read again,
> > > > > > > and I can tell for sure thatJaySteves who is at present
> > > > > > > carrying out his second long-term massive attack on
> > > > > > > sci.lang is a sociopath, and a cynic at that, fishing
> > > > > > > for clients among the Hindus he considers a particularly
> > > > > > > superstitious bunch, trying to win them for his astological
> > > > > > > business. He pretends to be defending the Hindu cause,
> > > > > > > but he is just making money, and he doesn't care whether
> > > > > > > a newsgroup is choked by him, not even if that newsgroup
> > > > > > > is seriously concerned with the culture of ancient India,
> > > > > > > and providing new and fascinating links between Harappa
> > > > > > > and the RigVeda, outwitting Witzel and his adlatus Farmer.
> > > > > > > No, that sociopathJayStevensaka Dr. Jai Maharaj doesn't
Me, ...again!
(see quoted material at end)
You guys could consider spamming his spam, thus flushing all his crap by
dillution.
Also, edit sci.lang off the cross post list but add insults designed to
attract his response and hope he does not edit back on your s.l ng.
There are hacker approaches to slowing down his spam but you'd have to be
very careful to keep yourself concealed.
Also, since he represents being a "Vedic Astrology" (for hire?), you could
also promote the idea that anyone can find free astrology services on the
internet, thus, maybe, undercutting his astrology business.
I can't think of anything more useless than astrology except, maybe, being
homeless. Maybe he's really homeless? All his obsession with sex abuse by
Christian clergy is a hint that he was sexually abused by one when he was
a kid and all this is "payback." Maybe he needs to see a shrink?
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