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Faith and humility

The Hindu

When extolling the glory of the Lord, the Upanishads state that all
their descriptions are inadequate since the Lord is beyond what can
be grasped by words and hence beyond the human mind and intellect.
But even the import of the Upanishads is not easily understood by
many of us. It is indeed a great wonder that the soul-stirring hymns
of Azhwars have the power to make the experience of God a tangible
reality in the common people, because these hymns reflect the
exclusive rapport they enjoyed with the Lord, said Shri R.
Aravamudhachariar in a lecture.

The object of the philosophical discussions of the Upanishads is thus
available in the form of an experience and the process of seeking God
with the qualities of humility and faith is also instilled. For
instance, the Lord's Maya is a concept that pervades all creation and
is difficult to grasp.

Krishna, as a child growing up in Ayarpadi, was beset with many
threats to His life from the demons despatched by Kans. The Lord, as
was His wont, exhibited extraordinary prowess far beyond a child's
capacity, to protect Himself. Though the people of Ayarpadi were
witnesses to glimpses of the Supreme Being when he lived in their
midst they were prevented to recognise this truth fully because of
the Lord's Maya.

Yashoda's attempt to tie the child Krishna to a grinding stone as a
punishment teaches the invaluable lesson of humility without which
God cannot be attained. It also shows God's compassion towards the
Jeevatma. The rope that Yashoda used was not just long enough and
every time she added an extra length of string, it still fell short.
She did manage to tie the Lord finally only because the Lord chose to
be bound by her. It is also to be noted that only when we shed all
ego can we behold the Lord. To those without any attachment to self
ego He is easily accessible. The Bhagavat Puran's extensive
descriptions of Lord Krishna's childhood have provided a rich source
for the experiences of the Azhwars and Acharyas. The Lord's bountiful
nature is evident and they entreat the Jeevatma to seek His refuge
for salvation.

More at:
http://www.hindu.com

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

TRIBUTES TO HINDUISM

1. Mahatma Gandhi:

"Hinduism has made marvelous discoveries in things of
religion, of the spirit, of the soul. We have no eye for
these great and fine discoveries. We are dazzled by the
material progress that western science has made. Ancient
India has survived because Hinduism was not developed
along material but spiritual lines.

"India is to me the dearest country in the world, because
I have discovered goodness in it. It has been subject to
foreign rule, it is true. But the status of a slave is
preferable to that of a slave holder."

2. Henry David Thoreau:

"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous
and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in
comparison with which our modern world and its literature
seems puny.

"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like
the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes
a loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me
like the full moon after the stars have come out, wading
through some far stratum in the sky."

3. Arthur Schopenhauer:

"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and
so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the
solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death."

4. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Gita:

"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as
if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but
large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old
intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which
exercise us."

The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his Vedanta
ecstasy.

5. Wilhelm von Humboldt pronounced the Gita as:

"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical
song existing in any known tongue ... perhaps the deepest
and loftiest thing the world has to show."

6. Lord Warren Hastings, the Governor General, was very
much impressed with Hindu philosophy:

"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive,
when the British dominion in India shall long have ceased
to exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth
and power are lost to remembrances."

7. Mark Twain:

"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left
undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most
extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds.
Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked.

"Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of
human speech, grandmother of legend, great grandmother of
tradition. The land that all men desire to see and having
seen once even by a glimpse, would not give that glimpse
for the shows of the rest of the globe combined."

8. Rudyard Kipling to Fundamental Christian Missionaries:

"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle
the Hindu brown for the Christian riles and the Hindu
smiles and weareth the Christian down; and the end of the
fight is a tombstone while with the name of the late
deceased and the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here who
tried to hustle the east".

9. Jules Michelet, a French historian, said:

"At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races
and religions, the womb of the world." This is what he
said of the Raamyana in 1864: "Whoever has done or willed
too much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught
of life and youth .. . Everything is narrow in the West -
- Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant.
Let me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for
a little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the
Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of
divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace
reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite
sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all
living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of
love, of pity, of clemency."

10. Shri Aurobindo:

"Hinduism.....gave itself no name, because it set itself
no sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion,
asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single
narrow path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or
cult than a continuously enlarging tradition of the
Godward endeavor of the human spirit. An immense many-
sided and many staged provision for a spiritual self-
building and self-finding, it had some right to speak of
itself by the only name it knew, the eternal religion,
sanaatan dharm...."

11. Will Durant would like the West to learn from India,
tolerance and gentleness and love for all living things:

"Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and
spoliation, India will teach us the tolerance and
gentleness of the mature mind, the quiet content of the
unacquisitive soul, the calm of the understanding spirit,
and a unifying, a pacifying love for all living things."

12. Joseph Campbell:

"It is ironic that our great western civilization, which
has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite
wonders of a universe of untold billions of galaxies
should be saddled with the tightest little cosmological
image known to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose
Kalpas and their ideas of the divine power which is
beyond all human category (male or female). Not so alien
to the imagery of modern science that it could not have
been put to acceptable use.

"There is an important difference between the Hindu and
the Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates
man, but man cannot say that he is divine in the same
sense that the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all
things are incarnations of that power. We are the sparks
from a single fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism
believes in the omnipresence of the Supreme God in every
individual. There is no 'fall'. Man is not cut off from
the divine. He requires only to bring the spontaneous
activity of his mind stuff to a state of stillness and he
will experience that divine principle with him."

13. Sir Monier-Williams:

The Hindus, according to him, were Spinozists more than
2,000 years before the advent of Spinoza, and Darwinians
many centuries before Darwin and Evolutionists many
centuries before the doctrine of Evolution was accepted
by scientists of the present age.

14. Carl Sagan, (the late scientist), asserts that the
dance of Nataraj signifies the cycle of evolution and
destruction of the cosmic universe (Big Bang Theory). "It
is the clearest image of the activity of God which any
art or religion can boast of."

15. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, a professor of Eastern
Religions at Oxford and later President of India:

"Hinduism is not just a faith. It is the union of reason
and intuition that cannot be defined but is only to be
experienced. Evil and error are not ultimate. There is no
Hell, for that means there is a place where God is not,
and there are sins which exceed his love."

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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Jay Stevens Maharaj aka the jumpin' jackass jyotishit wrote:

> Faith and humility

Two subjects you know nothing whatsoever about, Jay.............

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Internal Report presented to the GBC in 1986
"First of all Bhavananda Bhavananda aka Charles Bacis Child molester
Bhavananda ex swamiCharles Bacis homosex Swami (Charles Bacis) was
caught having anal sex with a young boy in Mayapura. (Tamal Krishna aka
Thomas Herzig, covered up this incident according to Yasodanandana
dasa). Bhavananda's history is alleged to include his being present when
the underground pornographic movie 'Chelsea Girls' was filmed, in which
the 'girls' are actually homosexuals. This movie is full of grotesque
homosexual relations like oral sex, anal sex, etc. The notorious Andy
Warhol worked on it, and Bhavananda is said to be his friend.

"The next known case was in 1983, the one with the taxi driver (a
chauffeur hired by the Vrindavana temple). This taxi driver also
admitted he was having homosexual relations with Bhavananda's appointed
temple president for the Vrindavana temple as well.

"Bhavananda was riding in the taxi and he grabbed the driver's genital
and began working it. Being a pimp, the driver just smiled and kept
driving. Later Bhavananda paid this driver 300 rupees to let him suck
the driver's genital. They went on to Delhi and he did it again and
Bhavananda gave the taxi driver another 200 rupees.

The report details more "genital sucking" performed on the taxi driver
and anal sex. Bhavananda praised the size of the driver's genitals.
Shortly afterwards Jagat Guru, Bhagavan, Mukunda, Sivarama, Tamal
Krishna and Ramesvara Swamis were all given reports of these incidents.
They said they would handle it. Giriraja Swami was then called in to
make further investigations, and he concluded that the stories were
true. Yet, somehow or other, the issue mysteriously remained dead in the
water.

Of course the investigation had to be reopened shortly thereafter. A
black devotee named Krishnacharana dasa complained that the GBC's "guru"
Bhavananda, had sexually assaulted him in Vrindavana. This devotee also
confirmed that Bhavananda like to swallow semen after he had "sucked on
other's genitals."

DEGRADATION
The document continues with the caption: "A Trail of Degradation"
stating, "Everyone has noticed that whenever there is a homosexual in
his zone, he gets the favor of Bhavananda. In summary, in the next few
years that Bhavananda managed Vrindavana, he established a number of
homosexual and other fallen people as his main men and admirers. A
homosexual man was brought in, and the man's son was soon caught
engaging in homosexual acts. The temple guard was a homosexual. A boy
from the goshala was caught engaging in homosexual acts. The temple
president was a homosexual."

LONG AND DARK HISTORY
"Mayapura has the longest and darkest history of homosexuality.
Bhavananda (backed by the majority of the GBC) runs a very tight ship of
fallen souls there, starting with Satadhanya, who for a long time was
having sex with men and women (remember he was supposed to be a celibate
sannyasi). Just last year Satadhanya had homosexual relations with a
young boy who had to go to the hospital for stitches in his anus. One of
Jayapataka's disciples admitted that Satadhanya had sex with him in
Prabhupada's room in Calcutta.

http://www.harekrsna.org/gbc/black/bhav.htm

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