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Arjun Pandit

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Aug 21, 2006, 1:28:16 PM8/21/06
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3.5 years back, the lady opined:

=========
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/comp/articleshow?arti...

"After Darr, Shahrukh Khan has stopped venturing into the unknown. I
feel an actor of his calibre is far better positioned to take risks
than a virtual beginner like me."
=========

A Swades, Paheli and an Asoka down the road, we know that SRK is only
suited for NRI films made by Karan Johar and Yash Chopra, anything else
and it is likely to be a flop. A opinion accepted by his fans like V.
Even Bipasha delivered in a deglam role like Corporate (a multiplex
hit).

Way to go girl! Rock on!

don2...@rediffmail.com

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Aug 22, 2006, 1:33:42 AM8/22/06
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If Bips is the visionary, you are a goddamn idiot.

Look who's talking about venturing into the unknown. Someone who's as
good as a caberet dancer in every movie.

The least she and morons like you can do is to show respect for an
actor who has done so well for 16 years. By taking potshots at SRK, you
are proving yourself no better than Kris(khal)nayak in
rec.sport.cricket who does the same to Tendulkar.

Don

Arjun Pandit

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Aug 23, 2006, 2:11:08 PM8/23/06
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don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:

> Arjun Pandit wrote:
> > Way to go girl! Rock on!
>
> If Bips is the visionary, you are a goddamn idiot.
>

Given that I am "debating" with you even after all these years, I
should be a goddamn idiot.

> Look who's talking about venturing into the unknown. Someone who's as
> good as a caberet dancer in every movie.

Atleast its better than doing cabaret dancing at weddings in front of
unknown people, all for a few dollars more.

>
> The least she and morons like you can do is to show respect for an
> actor who has done so well for 16 years. By taking potshots at SRK,

Someone who has taken potshots at AB, Kamal Hassan etc should not be
saying the above.


> you
> are proving yourself no better than Kris(khal)nayak in
> rec.sport.cricket who does the same to Tendulkar.
>

There is a difference. In RAMLI analogy, Tendulkar = AB and Kaif = SRK.
Kaif has his share of supporters in RSC but most wont debate his
uselessness. Likewise SRK has his share of supporters in RAMLI but most
wont debate that he is mostly pathetic. OTOH, mostly everyone on RSC
will agree SRT is an alltime great just like most on RAMLI would do so
about AB.

don2...@rediffmail.com

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Aug 24, 2006, 4:34:37 AM8/24/06
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Arjun Pandit wrote:

> There is a difference. In RAMLI analogy, Tendulkar = AB and Kaif = SRK.

AB was at his peak in 70s and 80s. So, AB = SMG. SRK has dominated
since 16 years, almost same as SRT. So SRK=SRT. I knew this will not
enter your biased
head. You can say RD = AK as there are always comparisons between RD
and SRT
but you know as well as me who is better of the two.

Of course, Arjun Pandit aka Ravi Iyengar = Bonda Bosads of RSC, always
wanting to pull down the best player of the team, in this case the
biggest star.

Don

Sharath

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Aug 24, 2006, 8:27:48 AM8/24/06
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I do take pot-shots at SRK but you can't compare Bips with SRK. The
performance of Corporate which you mentioned is a below average
movie.....check the facts at boxofficeindia.com
I think you're forgetting her roles in last year's No Entry and Omkaara
and she was pathetic in Raakth which was a good role.
She's better off striking those stupid poses at the cameras, maybe you
should see Ben Stiller in "Zoolander" and you'll see the poses I'm
referring to.

Sharath

V

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Aug 24, 2006, 10:28:57 AM8/24/06
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Sharath wrote:
> I do take pot-shots at SRK but you can't compare Bips with SRK.

Ofcourse AP is kidding. He probably watched KANK first day first show.
But is always game for a good discussion on RAMLI :)

Arjun Pandit

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Aug 24, 2006, 1:52:52 PM8/24/06
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Sharath wrote:
> I do take pot-shots at SRK but you can't compare Bips with SRK.

Who is comparing Bips with SRK. All I am pointing out is that even Bips
felt 3+ years back that all SRK was doing was romantic movies. And she
was spot on ...


> The
> performance of Corporate which you mentioned is a below average
> movie.....check the facts at boxofficeindia.com

http://www.indiafm.com/trade/business_talk/219.html


> I think you're forgetting her roles in last year's No Entry and Omkaara
> and she was pathetic in Raakth which was a good role.

I did not comment on her acting abilities, so I am not sure what you
are trying to achieve.

Arjun Pandit

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Aug 24, 2006, 2:21:01 PM8/24/06
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don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
> Arjun Pandit wrote:
>
> > There is a difference. In RAMLI analogy, Tendulkar = AB and Kaif = SRK.
>
> AB was at his peak in 70s and 80s. So, AB = SMG. SRK has dominated
> since 16 years, almost same as SRT. So SRK=SRT. I knew this will not
> enter your biased
> head. You can say RD = AK as there are always comparisons between RD
> and SRT
> but you know as well as me who is better of the three.
>

SMG

Sharath

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Aug 25, 2006, 12:11:31 PM8/25/06
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Arjun Pandit wrote:

> I did not comment on her acting abilities, so I am not sure what you
> are trying to achieve.

Refer to this statement in the first post


Even Bipasha delivered in a deglam role like Corporate (a multiplex
hit).

Way to go girl! Rock on!

If you meant that Bips delivered a hit with a deglam role, then the
credit goes more to Madhur Bandarkar cuz most of the multiplex crowd
know it's his movie. And as you mentioned the film is a hit in
multiplexes only, it didn't do well in single cinemas. If you were to
give credit to Bips for a hit, it would be Jism.

As for the second option of Bips acting abilities, you have mentioned
that you weren't referring to her acting abilities.


Sharath

Arjun Pandit

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Aug 28, 2006, 2:30:44 PM8/28/06
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Sharath wrote:
> Arjun Pandit wrote:
>
> > I did not comment on her acting abilities, so I am not sure what you
> > are trying to achieve.
>
> Refer to this statement in the first post
> Even Bipasha delivered in a deglam role like Corporate (a multiplex
> hit).
>
> Way to go girl! Rock on!
>
> If you meant that Bips delivered a hit with a deglam role, then the
> credit goes more to Madhur Bandarkar cuz most of the multiplex crowd
> know it's his movie.

Corporate wasn't aimed at audience in non city areas, so it becoming a
multiplex city hit suffices. Yes, its a hit because of MB and I agree
to that. But the audience accepted her in a deglam role, says a lot
doesn't it? Unlike SRK, who has a tough time getting accepted in
anything other than romantic mushy movies. That is what I meant by the
comment that she delivered.

The "Way to go girl" is in response to the spunk she displayed in
pooh-poohing SRK. In an age of sycophancy (Please refer V's post on how
many people love SRK), her remarks come across as fresh air and that is
great.

> And as you mentioned the film is a hit in
> multiplexes only, it didn't do well in single cinemas.

It wasn't intended for them, so its good enough.

> As for the second option of Bips acting abilities, you have mentioned
> that you weren't referring to her acting abilities.
>

So, what is your point? BTW, can you use quotes when you reply. Becomes
difficult to separate your reply from my original post. If you use
Google Groups, use the "Reply" under "Show Options" of each post.

Sharath

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Aug 29, 2006, 8:37:14 AM8/29/06
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Pandit, you just wasted a whole lot of space on this topic. The point
is that the movie was a hit cuz of Madhur......people didn't go to the
movie cuz Bips was in it. And I don't need your stupid suggestions on
how to post on Google groups.......you contradicted yourself with your
posts, that's why I'd to copy/paste your post. The movie was trashed by
most of the corporate world for the depiction and I hope they recovered
their costs!

Arjun Pandit

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Aug 29, 2006, 1:47:15 PM8/29/06
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Sharath wrote:
> Pandit, you just wasted a whole lot of space on this topic.

Thank you. I enjoy being a pain in the ass.

> The point
> is that the movie was a hit cuz of Madhur......

And where did I deny that?.

> And I don't need your stupid suggestions on
> how to post on Google groups.......

These are not stupid suggestions. There is something called Netiquette.
You seem to have got onto internet only recently. And it shows in the
posts you make to RSC and here.

> you contradicted yourself with your
> posts, that's why I'd to copy/paste your post. The movie was trashed by
> most of the corporate world for the depiction and I hope they recovered
> their costs!

Ah. You talk about contradiction in my posts? Here are two sentences
from a single post of yours.

> The point is that the movie was a hit cuz of Madhur......

> The movie was trashed by
> most of the corporate world for the depiction and I hope they recovered
> their costs!

How can the movie be a hit if it didn't recover its costs? You seem to
me more messed up than I initially thought, how can someone not
remember what he must have written just a minute back.

Sharath

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Aug 30, 2006, 12:24:47 AM8/30/06
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The link you posted regarding the performance of the movie was just a
few days after the movie was released. That was the only place where I
saw that the movie was declared a hit!!

Arjun Pandit

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Aug 30, 2006, 3:03:16 PM8/30/06
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So why didn't you counter it with some other piece rather than buying
it and also using it in your posts (Like claiming Corporate was a hit
because of MB). If it wasn't a hit as per you, Madhur Bhandarkar
shouldn't even come into the picture.

Its like
1. I write something
2. you don't agree with it but you do not say so leading me to believe
you agree with 1
3. you write a whole load of stuff saying why what I told in 1 happened

4. and then you come back and say that what I told you in 1 didnt
happen

I am thoroughly confused.

Sharath

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Aug 31, 2006, 1:28:00 AM8/31/06
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I didn't think this discussion would be so long. The point you are
missing is that Corporate got a lot of attention cuz of Madhur and so
does Bips. Secondly Bips doesn't get a credit for a delivering a
half-baked hit. In case you want you can take the first prize for this
post.

Gafoor

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Aug 31, 2006, 1:36:33 AM8/31/06
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Sharath wrote:
> I didn't think this discussion would be so long. The point you are
> missing is that Corporate got a lot of attention cuz of Madhur and so
> does Bips.

so does Bips what?

don2...@rediffmail.com

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Aug 31, 2006, 10:52:58 AM8/31/06
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Arjun Pandit wrote:

> Thank you. I enjoy being a pain in the ass.

Ravi Iyengar, what a letdown from the days of 1998 when you used to
kick the ass of Tambi Dude in rsc with valid points!!!!!

Don

Arjun Pandit

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Aug 31, 2006, 2:21:00 PM8/31/06
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Shridhar Narayan Iyer, well I have atleast had a downfall. You seem to
be at the same level. In 98, you used to get your butt kicked by all
and sundry, in 2006, you still get your butt kicked by all and sundry.
Of course, one cant go below pits. Spare yourself the misery yaar, just
stay away.

Arjun Pandit

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Aug 31, 2006, 2:21:45 PM8/31/06
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Sharath wrote:
> In case you want you can take the first prize for this
> post.

Where do I come and collect it?

Sharath

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Sep 1, 2006, 12:05:19 AM9/1/06
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At the friendly neighbourhood grocery store near you........Take it
easy Pandit

And what's up with Gafoor.........btw define Gafoor??

Gafoor

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Sep 1, 2006, 12:21:38 AM9/1/06
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What are you on about?


don2...@rediffmail.com

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Sep 1, 2006, 4:30:00 AM9/1/06
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Arjun Pandit wrote:
> don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
> > Arjun Pandit wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you. I enjoy being a pain in the ass.
> >
> > Ravi Iyengar, what a letdown from the days of 1998 when you used to
> > kick the ass of Tambi Dude in rsc with valid points!!!!!
>
> well I have atleast had a downfall.

So you admit that????

> You seem to
> be at the same level. In 98, you used to get your butt kicked by all
> and sundry, in 2006, you still get your butt kicked by all and sundry.

It is good to have many enemies. All great people in this world have
had lot of enemies.

BTW, who got his ass kicked? Tambi Dude spelled the death of Agarkar in
2002, he is still there. You were suggesting SRK is all done with in
2002, he is still the Badshah in 2006.


> Of course, one cant go below pits. Spare yourself the misery yaar, just
> stay away.

Looks like you are beyond repair. I tried my 2 cents but to no avail.

Don

don2...@rediffmail.com

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Sep 1, 2006, 4:37:35 AM9/1/06
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Sharath wrote:
> I didn't think this discussion would be so long.

You are dealing with the great Ravi Iyengar who dosen't have a life
beyond newsgroups. So, he will do whatever he can to keep useless
things going on and on.

Gafoor is none other than J Shiva, another Mumbai-bred South Indian who
spends half his time irritating others in the newsgroups. (btw, both
these guys used to be sensible *once*). Do not even utter anything bad
about Mumbaikars with these guys or else they will chase you down to
boredom :). Also, Gafoor has a great liking for stats and can twist any
topic to his favour using half-baked stats. He has put "Love Ke Liye
Kuch Bhi Karega" in his top 5 Hindi movies of all times. ROTFL :) :)

Don

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don2...@rediffmail.com

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Sep 1, 2006, 8:15:29 AM9/1/06
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Tambi Dude wrote:

> don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
> >He has put
> > "Love Ke Liye Kuch Bhi Karega" in his top 5 Hindi movies of all
> > times. ROTFL :) :)
>
> I think Gafoor meant the side story of Snehal Dhabi (aaj kapoor)
> , Johny Lever and not the whole movie.
> That humour was indeed very good though not as good SRK's Duplicate.
>
> rk-

No i am pretty sure it was the whole movie. I am too lazy to search for
that post of his describing it as among the best 5 Hindi movies he has
ever seen. Again, can't stop ROTFLing on that :)...

Don

ltusenet

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Sep 1, 2006, 8:48:23 AM9/1/06
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Simple question Don IYER, Do you think Duplicate was better?


>
> Don

Gafoor

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Sep 1, 2006, 12:41:08 PM9/1/06
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Tambi Dude wrote:
> don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
>> He has put
>> "Love Ke Liye Kuch Bhi Karega" in his top 5 Hindi movies of all
>> times. ROTFL :) :)
>
> I think Gafoor meant the side story of Snehal Dhabi (aaj kapoor)
> , Johny Lever and not the whole movie.

For me, LKLKBK was among the top 10 movies of the last decade.
I have watched it 10-15 times.
Not just Aaj Kapoor & Johnny Lever, but the whole movie.
Aftab, Sonali Bendre, Dilip Tahil, Fardeen, Twinkle everyone was
good. Even the pandu hawaldar who features for 1 minute (answers
Dilip Tahil's phone call) was very good. The pimp who features for
a few minutes (he is also there as Vivek Oberoi's film crazy sidekick
in Company) was great. Sarat Saxena as the pan chewing cop was
good.

I would also put it amongst the top 10 best Hindi comedies
I have ever seen.

Gafoor

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Sep 1, 2006, 12:43:48 PM9/1/06
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Gafoor wrote:
> Tambi Dude wrote:
>> don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
>>> He has put
>>> "Love Ke Liye Kuch Bhi Karega" in his top 5 Hindi movies of all
>>> times. ROTFL :) :)
>>
>> I think Gafoor meant the side story of Snehal Dhabi (aaj kapoor)
>> , Johny Lever and not the whole movie.
>
> For me, LKLKBK was among the top 10 movies of the last decade.
> I have watched it 10-15 times.
> Not just Aaj Kapoor & Johnny Lever, but the whole movie.
> Aftab, Sonali Bendre, Dilip Tahil, Fardeen, Twinkle everyone was
> good. Even the pandu hawaldar who features for 1 minute (answers
> Dilip Tahil's phone call) was very good. The pimp who features for
> a few minutes (he is also there as Vivek Oberoi's film crazy sidekick
> in Company) was great. Sarat Saxena as the pan chewing cop was
> good.

Forgot to mention Tanikella whatever - Twinkle's father in the movie &
Saif - both of the were also very good. Saif's expression when Sonali
tells compares her father's treatment of Saif to that of her dog
Zany was fabulous.

dp

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Sep 1, 2006, 2:25:05 PM9/1/06
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Gafoor wrote:
<snip stuff agreed with>

> I would also put it amongst the top 10 best Hindi comedies
> I have ever seen.

Top 10 among comedies? Should easily be in top 3. I can only think of
Jaane bhi do yaaro which is clearly superior to it.

dp

Arjun Pandit

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Sep 1, 2006, 2:39:23 PM9/1/06
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don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
> Arjun Pandit wrote:
> > don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
> > > Arjun Pandit wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you. I enjoy being a pain in the ass.
> > >
> > > Ravi Iyengar, what a letdown from the days of 1998 when you used to
> > > kick the ass of Tambi Dude in rsc with valid points!!!!!
> >
> > well I have atleast had a downfall.
>
> So you admit that????
>

Whatever you say.

> > You seem to
> > be at the same level. In 98, you used to get your butt kicked by all
> > and sundry, in 2006, you still get your butt kicked by all and sundry.
>
> It is good to have many enemies. All great people in this world have
> had lot of enemies.

These are not enemies. There are people who laugh at your idiocy.

>
> BTW, who got his ass kicked? Tambi Dude spelled the death of Agarkar in
> 2002, he is still there.

He has hardly played tests since then. How many tests has he played
since 2002? IIRC, Tambi Dude spelt the death of Agarkar in tests and he
has been prophetic.

> You were suggesting SRK is all done with in
> 2002, he is still the Badshah in 2006.
>

My views on SRK are all well documented in the recent thread that you
chose to run away from. KANK ran to <30% occupancy in Week 2.
HEHEHEHEHE.

Arjun Pandit

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Sep 1, 2006, 2:50:49 PM9/1/06
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don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
> Sharath wrote:
> > I didn't think this discussion would be so long.
>
> You are dealing with the great Ravi Iyengar who dosen't have a life
> beyond newsgroups.

No. of posts by Arjun Pandit in 2006: 89 (http://tinyurl.com/gb46m)
(out of which 20-30 must have been in the last 2 weeks)
No. of Posts by Don 2006 (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) in 2006: 90
(http://tinyurl.com/jfkdo)
No. of Posts by Ram Jaane (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) since Jan 2006: 157

These are two IDs I know of. There are countless others like Ram Prasad
Sharma etc he uses.

You win hands down Shridhar Narayan Iyer when it comes to living in
newsgroups.

Warm Regards,
AP

don2...@rediffmail.com

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Sep 2, 2006, 4:41:09 AM9/2/06
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Arjun Pandit wrote:

> No. of posts by Arjun Pandit in 2006: 89 (http://tinyurl.com/gb46m)
> (out of which 20-30 must have been in the last 2 weeks)
> No. of Posts by Don 2006 (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) in 2006: 90
> (http://tinyurl.com/jfkdo)
> No. of Posts by Ram Jaane (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) since Jan 2006: 157

Detective Pandit, thanks for taking the time for the stats. Are you
sure Don = Ram Jaane???? Even if it is so, how do i know which other
ids apart from Pandit that you post from???? BTW, stats don't tell the
same story as Sharath found about your useless self in this thread.


Don

don2...@rediffmail.com

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Sep 2, 2006, 4:41:25 AM9/2/06
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Arjun Pandit wrote:

> No. of posts by Arjun Pandit in 2006: 89 (http://tinyurl.com/gb46m)
> (out of which 20-30 must have been in the last 2 weeks)
> No. of Posts by Don 2006 (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) in 2006: 90
> (http://tinyurl.com/jfkdo)
> No. of Posts by Ram Jaane (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) since Jan 2006: 157

Detective Pandit, thanks for taking the time for the stats. Are you


sure Don = Ram Jaane???? Even if it is so, how do i know which other
ids apart from Pandit that you post from???? BTW, stats don't tell the

whole story as Sharath found about your useless self in this thread.


Don

don2...@rediffmail.com

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Sep 2, 2006, 8:39:10 AM9/2/06
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Arjun Pandit wrote:

> Whatever you say.

?????

> These are not enemies. There are people who laugh at your idiocy.

Lot of people laugh at Sonia Gandhi every day. But she has been voted
as one of the most powerful women in the world by Forbes. Lot of
people still laugh at Gandhi and i know you support people of that ilk
(namely RSS). I am no one as compared to them but atleast can get
inspired by their experiences.

> He has hardly played tests since then. How many tests has he played
> since 2002? IIRC, Tambi Dude spelt the death of Agarkar in tests and he
> has been prophetic.

He predicted end of Agarkar's Test career after Eng. tour of 2002.
After that, Agarkar has played around 10 Tests including the only
match-winning performance by an Indian fast bowler in Aus after Kapil
Dev.

> My views on SRK are all well documented in the recent thread that you
> chose to run away from. KANK ran to <30% occupancy in Week 2.
> HEHEHEHEHE.

After 2002, SRK has given hits like Chalte CHalte, Kal Ho Na Ho, Main
Hoon Na, Veer Zaara and Kabhie Alvida Na Kehna. Two of them went on to
become super hits. Not bad for a person whose career was predicted as
over in 2002 by your ignorant self.
ANd btw, he is the highest paid star in Bollywood (16 crores per
film) and still called the reigning superstar of Bollywood - King Khan.

I wil sing an Akshay Kumar song for you...."Chullu Bhar Paani Mein Doob
Ja...Chullu Bhar Paani Mein Doob Ja..."

Don

Gilly's Danda

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Sep 2, 2006, 8:43:05 AM9/2/06
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don200...@rediffmail.com wrote:


> I wil sing an Akshay Kumar song for you...."Chullu Bhar Paani Mein Doob
> Ja...Chullu Bhar Paani Mein Doob Ja..."

Good. I hope you've recorded it this time.

A

don2...@rediffmail.com

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Sep 2, 2006, 8:44:32 AM9/2/06
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Arjun Pandit wrote:
> don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
> > Sharath wrote:
> > > I didn't think this discussion would be so long.
> >
> > You are dealing with the great Ravi Iyengar who dosen't have a life
> > beyond newsgroups.
>
> No. of posts by Arjun Pandit in 2006: 89 (http://tinyurl.com/gb46m)
> (out of which 20-30 must have been in the last 2 weeks)
> No. of Posts by Don 2006 (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) in 2006: 90
> (http://tinyurl.com/jfkdo)
> No. of Posts by Ram Jaane (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) since Jan 2006: 157
>
> These are two IDs I know of. There are countless others like Ram Prasad
> Sharma etc he uses.

So you spent this much time in usenet trying to find how much one posts
and
how much he has posted in last 2 weeks. No wonder i stick to my
priginal point that
you spend most of your time loitering around in usenet talking crap.

Don

Arjun Pandit

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Sep 4, 2006, 1:48:57 PM9/4/06
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don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:

> ANd btw, he is the highest paid star in Bollywood (16 crores per

http://www.indiafm.com/news/2006/09/04/7752/index.html

Tsk, Tsk. No compensation for SRK's guard losing his life on the job.

Arjun Pandit

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Sep 4, 2006, 1:54:36 PM9/4/06
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don2...@rediffmail.com wrote:
> Arjun Pandit wrote:
>
> > No. of posts by Arjun Pandit in 2006: 89 (http://tinyurl.com/gb46m)
> > (out of which 20-30 must have been in the last 2 weeks)
> > No. of Posts by Don 2006 (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) in 2006: 90
> > (http://tinyurl.com/jfkdo)
> > No. of Posts by Ram Jaane (Shridhar Narayan Iyer) since Jan 2006: 157
>
> Detective Pandit,

There is no detective giri in this. It is called Google Search. but for
someone who thinks Sun Sparc as an OS might find Google Search as
rocket science.

> thanks for taking the time for the stats. Are you
> sure Don = Ram Jaane????

Yeah, both are chut**as. Difficult to pick the bigger chut**a from the
two, so I treat both of them as the same. See a shrink Don, you need to
see one really badly.

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