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jw...@hotmail.com

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98
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I read an article a few years ago in a porn mag a fewyears ago and they
mentioned, Annie Sprinkle and TraciLords. Although in an other mag I read
Traci was of polishheritage. Avalon porn actress of the early 90's said she
was jewish.

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sran...@aol.com

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Mar 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/17/98
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In article <rame.890079607p6622@bash>,

All three are Jewish. Annie's real name is Ellen Steinberg and she is
currently married to a Jewish lawyer(a woman).
Traci's father(Mr. Kuzma) is a Jewish immigrant from the Ukraine, and her
mother, Patricia Briceland, is of Swedish extraction.
Avalon frequently donned earrings shaped like Stars of David in her
performances.

Sheldon Ranz

jw...@hotmail.com

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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sranz6969, you said there were about twenty jewish men inthe porn stud
category, you did such a good job namingall the jewish actresses how about
naming the men as wellbesides Ron Jeremy(the hedgehog).

Opherian

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Mar 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/18/98
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> Traci's father(Mr. Kuzma) is a Jewish immigrant from the Ukraine, and her
>mother, Patricia Briceland, is of Swedish extraction.

The Rabbi Stiffkugel would point out that under Jewish law, it is the religion
of the *mother* that determines one's Jewishness. Therefore, unless Traci's
"Sweedish" mother was of the faith, she would be considered a shiksa absent
conversion. The Rabbi Stiffkugel would also like to say again this discussion
is geting old.
The Rabbi Stiffkugel (Ophe...@aol.com)

OahuSteve

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Mar 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/19/98
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I don't think it's getting old at all, Reb Woody. As an MOT myself, I
have always been fascinated by other MOT's in show biz, whether it's
porn or straight films. . .especially those MOTs who don't make their
MOTness readily known, i.e. everyone knows that Woody Allen, Fran
Drescher or Billy Crystal are MOTs but the fact that Lawrence Harvey,
William Shatner or James Mason were fellow tribesmen is a bit more
estoreric.

sran...@aol.com

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Mar 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/19/98
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In article <rame.890262004p4917@bash>,

ophe...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > Traci's father(Mr. Kuzma) is a Jewish immigrant from the Ukraine, and her
> >mother, Patricia Briceland, is of Swedish extraction.
>
> The Rabbi Stiffkugel would point out that under Jewish law, it is the
religion
> of the *mother* that determines one's Jewishness. Therefore, unless Traci's
> "Sweedish" mother was of the faith, she would be considered a shiksa absent
> conversion. The Rabbi Stiffkugel would also like to say again this
discussion
> is geting old.
> The Rabbi Stiffkugel (Ophe...@aol.com)
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On the assumption that maybe this is not a troll, here goes:

Most American Jews do not define themselves by "Jewish Law" since such law
is only adhered to - or even referred to as such - by the Orthodox. Secular
and non-affiliated Jews, as well as Reform Jews regard patrilineal descent
with the same validity as matrilineal descent. Many Conservative-affiliated
Jews are coming around to that as well. All told, that's an overwhelming
majority of American Jewry. Israel's Law of Return would grant instant
citizenship to Traci (or for that matter, Bunny Bleu) because "any one parent
will do if you say you're a Jew."(my formulation, not Israel's)

Judaism is still a religion, but Jews are a people, a multiracial ethnic
group that has over the past two centuries transcended its exclusive ties to
Orthodox Judaism.

Even when contemplating getting married to Brook Yeaton(John Water's
nephew) in an Episcopal ceremony, Traci admitted in an interview that she
felt strange about it because she thinks of herself as Jewish. (It's
probably the only thing she says about herself in public that's honest, but
that's another story).

-->Sheldon Ranz

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sran...@aol.com

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Mar 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/19/98
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In article <rame.890276404p7448@bash>,

jw...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> sranz6969, you said there were about twenty jewish men inthe porn stud
> category, you did such a good job namingall the jewish actresses how about
> naming the men as wellbesides Ron Jeremy(the hedgehog).
>
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Well, let's see:

Buck Adams
Bobby Astyr
R. Bolla
Jerry Butler
Seymore Butts
Roger Caine
David Christopher
Steve Drake
Josey Duval
Jesse Eastern
Sasha Gabor
Jamie Gillis
Jeffrey Hurst
Michael Knight
William Margold
Ashley Moore
David Morris
George Payne
Ed Powers
Harry Reems
Dave Ruby
Herschel Savage
Carter Stevens
Marc Stevens
Paul Thomas
Marc Wallice
Randy West
Jack Wrangler

Now if we do the "math", that's 29 Kosher Beefakes(including RJ) - enough for
almost three, count' em, three - minyans!

Since minyans are customarily groups of ten, I count male performers as
"regulars", if not outright "stars", if they've racked up at least ten
hardcore credits. Mark Kernes has only done ONE video, so he'd have to do
nine more to qualify as the thirtieth KB.

Opherian

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Mar 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/20/98
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> Most American Jews do not define themselves by "Jewish Law" since such law
is only adhered to - or even referred to as such - by the Orthodox. Secular
and non-affiliated Jews, as well as Reform Jews regard patrilineal descent with
the same validity as matrilineal descent . . .

The Rabbi Stiffkugel, who is closer to the Hassidic in looking at what his
mother did for him, reads this and is verclempt. Traci, first of the kosher
chickens (even if underage at the time), I love you and you can make chicken
soup in Isreal any time.


The Rabbi Stiffkugel (Ophe...@aol.com)

fatj...@hotmail.com

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Mar 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/21/98
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As far as what is the child if the father/mother is half
jewish/italian/etc/etc/ here's the bottom line. Most ofthis has to due with
if which parent had the most influenceon the child. If the father/mother was
jewish and he/shereally took the time to become a factor in the child's life
usually the child will claim themselves that nationalityor religion. Ex.
irish father and jewish mother, father'sout all day long, doesn't care about
the child,etc. 9 timesout of ten the child will be raised jewish because of
themother's involvment and the father's lack of. The reverseis also true.
If both parents don't care about the child then thegrandparents get involved
and usually make sure the child goesto THEIR church or temple. If both
parents are jewish the childis usually an atheist(just kidding). As far as
ethnicity goes the same is usually true. If the child hates one of the
parents he willusually say his/her nationality is of the opposite parent,
unless thatrace/nationality is in vogue. If both parents are jewish the
child willhate themselves(just kidding aka Woody Allen).

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Noelfr

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Mar 29, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/29/98
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>The Rabbi Stiffkugel

Hmmm...am I the only who doesn't get or understand the point of this "schtick"?
Let the words flow, easy on the monikors.

"Yeah, Baby." (Austin Powers)

X-Nico

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Mar 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/30/98
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Okay, I finally had time to verify what I posted about Gabor being
uncircumcised.

I pulled out "Kascha & Friends" (1988); he has a scene w/Dana Lynn in
which he clearly shows foreskin when he's stroking himself for his money
shot. It's not just loose shaft skin-- it's clearly an intact prepuce,
with frenum still attached.

So-- did he convert in the last decade? Or is it true what I read about
Eastern European Jews-- that the mohel merely ritually nicks or touches
the baby's foreskin with the blade, rather than performing an actual
circumcision (the reason being strong antiSemitic prejudice in certain
Communist bloc countries)?

Dana Wasserman

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Mar 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/30/98
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Noelfr wrote:

> >The Rabbi Stiffkugel
>
> Hmmm...am I the only who doesn't get or understand the point of this "schtick"
?
>
>

> I readily admit my fascination of which porn stars are Jewish, but that may ha
ve
> to do with the fact I am a shayna Jewess and therefore has a more personal
> reason regarding my Jewish identity. A rhetorical question to myself as well
:
> what does this have to do with the Wonderful World of RAME?

Dana

S. Andrew Roberts

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Mar 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/31/98
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On Mon, 30 Mar 98 16:07:00, a fine sunny day in LaLaLand, X-Nico
<X-N...@XNICO.com> spoke about Re: Jews in Porn-- Sasha Gabor???:

>Okay, I finally had time to verify what I posted about Gabor being
>uncircumcised.

>So-- did he convert in the last decade? Or is it true what I read about
>Eastern European Jews-- that the mohel merely ritually nicks or touches
>the baby's foreskin with the blade, rather than performing an actual
>circumcision (the reason being strong antiSemitic prejudice in certain
>Communist bloc countries)?

Sasha and I are both Hungarian and were both born in Budapest during
the Russian occupation of the early 1950's. My father made a concerted
choice not to have me circumcised because the Russian hatred of Jews
during that era. It's likely that Sasha's parents acted similarly.


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