European Porn - Magma Label
britfriend
read many of the postings and appreciate most are based around the
American porn movie industry.
I am hoping that I might get some reliable information on Euro porn
makers Magma who I believe (along with Seventeen, Private and Chick)are
easily the best and highest quality labels available.
The article is primarily based around the directors and stars and I am
looking for info on Moli (who directs most of the Magma productions)
and his favourite actors & actresses.
If anyone has a favourite Euro label and/or film I would be grateful
for comments such as why they like that particular label/film/star.
Is Euro porn popular in the States - how is it regarded by Americans
and others outside Europe?
Thanks in advance for your help
Regards
Terry
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Douglas B
As I'm writing from the UK, you might not appreciate the following, but what
the heck...
Indeed, Magma are indeed touted as one of the Euro studios, but in all
honesty, that isn't saying much. The bulk of their output (alongside
studios like Maximum Perversion) seems to be aimed at the German-ic market
and as such is about as appealing as old socks. German porn is heavily
fixated on fetish material, but not in any stylish way. I understand it has
a limited appeal in the US and elsewhere because it contains material
(fisting, pissing, etc.) that's not generally found elsewhere, but it's just
really badly made. Given that Moli has been making films for years (I used
to have some bio on him, but it's gone...) the production values are poor,
editing etc. ropey, and the whole product generally tedious. What sells
them I think are the covers, which are usually very eye-catching (...) but
the films are lousy. Oh, and they always have terrible, to the point of
laughable, dubbed soundtracks and odd English narration.
My impression is that the Magma-style doesn't rely on 'stars' as such,
drawing performers much more from the amateur/fetish scene. If you're
looking for 'stars', there's the UK's very own Ben Dover and 'Kelly' who
usually works with Rocco Siffredi. The Italians have a history of producing
popular performers but who the current generation are I have no idea.
Directors/performers like Siffredi and Christof Clarke have made a nice
living doing US-friendly smut that also appeals to Euro-audiences but Europe
only has one guy who really knows what he's doing: Mario Salieri, an Italian
director who genuinely tries to create a little work of art within the
limits of the genre. His stuff appears on the French Colmax label in dubbed
form.
D.
----- Original Message -----
From: britfriend <britf...@altavista.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.erotica
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 10:28 AM
Subject: European Porn - Magma Label
> I am doing an article for a Lifstyle magazine here in the UK. I have
> read many of the postings and appreciate most are based around the
> American porn movie industry.
> I am hoping that I might get some reliable information on Euro porn
> makers Magma who I believe (along with Seventeen, Private and Chick)are
> easily the best and highest quality labels available.
> The article is primarily based around the directors and stars and I am
> looking for info on Moli (who directs most of the Magma productions)
> and his favourite actors & actresses.
> If anyone has a favourite Euro label and/or film I would be grateful
> for comments such as why they like that particular label/film/star.
> Is Euro porn popular in the States - how is it regarded by Americans
> and others outside Europe?
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
> Regards
>
> Terry
priape
only has one guy who really knows what he's doing: Mario Salieri, an Italian
director who genuinely tries to create a little work of art within the
limits of the genre. His stuff appears on the French Colmax label in dubbed
form.
Ok think Mario salieri tries to but does he succeed in your mind ?
soljaris
> The Italians have a history of producing
>popular performers but who the current generation are I have no idea.
I write from Italy and can give some insights about italian porn.
Probably you won't like it.
Sadly, the current generation of italian performers is not a known one
because it sucks (and not in a good way).
We have still some early '90's starlet hanging around (Selen comes to mind)
but no real high level new stars.
It seems that that porn is not anymore able to hire good looking young
girls in their 20's. All the italian performers that came into the biz are
30+ age girls. This is not bad if they still look good, but I think only
one of those (Antonella del Lago) does it. The main other ones (Ursula
Cavalcanti, La Venere Bianca) really look skank and jaded. So to speak,
they are not in the same league with an Alexandria Silk, who's 36 but looks
ten years younger. The very few young italian newcomers (like Sexy Luna,
ugly starting from her porn name) look so bad that I think most men would
refuse to screw them even if they find 'em with spread legs imploring for a
fuck.
Or, OTOH some such NO-NO anything ice queens (NO Anal, NO Facial ...)
compared to whom Raquel Darrian is a raincoaters favourite. 'Performers'
like Blondie or Desiré Vinci are part of this last category.
Because of this, most italian producers rely mainly on east europe or
french girls, but, being italian porn mainly plot oriented, the results are
terrible. The performers don't understand each other's language, the acting
sucks and the build-up of the scenarios loses any heat.
The golden age of italian porn, when 100% gorgeous local babes (the Pozzi
sisters, Ewa Orlowski) got massively DPed in very funny flicks, are long
gone.
> Europe only has one guy who really knows what he's doing: Mario Salieri, an Italian
>director who genuinely tries to create a little work of art within the
>limits of the genre.
Please, don't say that. I've been watching real (non porn) art and essay
movies since I was a young teen. Each year I go to Venice, Locarno and some
other minor mainstream festivals, watching dozens of art movies.
Salieri doesn't have anything to part with even the nowadays terrible
italian art scene, not to mention the still great french art directors.
Salieri shots very short flicks (very often just an hour of final editing
in each production) with half of it wasted in non sex supposedly socially
commited scenes. It remains just about half an hour of sex divided in 5/6
scenes, just a bit more of 5 minutes each. Just as you start feeling some
heat, the scene is over.
I think that pornographer should just try to shoot arousing, realistic sex
and, for that matter, my vote for best european porn director/producer goes
to french Laetitia.
_____________________________________________________
davide tosi 'soljaris'
'Blood rack barbed wire
Politician's funeral pire
Innocents raped with napalm fire
XXIst century schizoid man'
King Crimson - 1969
Ralf Dogowicz
> Hey,
>
> As I'm writing from the UK, you might not appreciate the following,
but what
> the heck...
>
> Indeed, Magma are indeed touted as one of the Euro studios, but in
all
> honesty, that isn't saying much. The bulk of their output
(alongside
> studios like Maximum Perversion) seems to be aimed at the German-ic
market
> and as such is about as appealing as old socks. German porn is
heavily
> fixated on fetish material, but not in any stylish way.
That isn't right. Only around 10 per cent is fetish material here in
my
local video stores. In the last few years came more and more well
produced material on the market.
Bye
Ralf
.
Ralf Dogowicz
> I am doing an article for a Lifstyle magazine here in the UK. I have
> read many of the postings and appreciate most are based around the
> American porn movie industry.
> I am hoping that I might get some reliable information on Euro porn
> makers Magma who I believe (along with Seventeen, Private and
Chick)are
> easily the best and highest quality labels available.
Magma stands not for good quality. This firm stand more for 'quick and
dirty' and they aren't the biggest in Germany. Bigger than Magma are
Videorama, DBM and Goldlight. Especially Videorama and Goldlight are
on
the market with some good quality and high budget series. Goldlight
for
example released in December the movie 'Stavros' with a budget of
700.000 Euros.
> The article is primarily based around the directors and stars and I
am
> looking for info on Moli (who directs most of the Magma productions)
> and his favourite actors & actresses.
Magma haven't any favourite models. They produce there stuff with
private persons.
John
wrote:
>"Douglas B" <doug...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> The Italians have a history of producing
>>popular performers but who the current generation are I have no idea.
>
>I write from Italy and can give some insights about italian porn.
>Probably you won't like it.
>Sadly, the current generation of italian performers is not a known one
>because it sucks (and not in a good way).
>We have still some early '90's starlet hanging around (Selen comes to mind)
>but no real high level new stars.
I would include the early to mid 90's video's directed by Max
Bellocchio as being ones worth viewing. Although they included
"European performers" there were a number of Italian's featured in
them. I have 23 of his video's and don't recall a bad one in there.
John
Niklas Zypher
> [...]
> The article is primarily based around the directors and stars and I am
> looking for info on Moli (who directs most of the Magma productions)
> and his favourite actors & actresses.
I don't think he has many favourites, if any. Magma seem to employ the
same (Hungarian) casting agencies as do Private. Same girls appear on both
labels almost simultaneously. Recently Magma have adopted Private's
starlet Magdalena/May and is featuring her in several videos as Bibi
Blue/Blondie.
The other day I skimmed through a Magma video shot in Russia by Russians
and featuring Russians; all the girls seemed to be between the ages of 16
and 18, so that one will probably not show up in the USA. Although 16 is
the legal age limit in much of Europe (to be featured in a sex video),
16/17 year olds are generally avoided because using such might cause bad
publicity. It seems the Russian mob care little for PR.
Zypher
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Douglas B
Being in the UK, I've only seen a few of his films but I thought VOYEURS,
CPK and VIOLS were very well done (though not without fault).
priape <pri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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> Europe
> only has one guy who really knows what he's doing: Mario Salieri, an
Italian
> director who genuinely tries to create a little work of art within the
> limits of the genre. His stuff appears on the French Colmax label in
dubbed
> form.
>
> Ok think Mario salieri tries to but does he succeed in your mind ?
TC
wrote:
>I am doing an article for a Lifstyle magazine here in the UK. I have
>read many of the postings and appreciate most are based around the
>American porn movie industry.
>I am hoping that I might get some reliable information on Euro porn
>makers Magma who I believe (along with Seventeen, Private and Chick)are
>easily the best and highest quality labels available.
>The article is primarily based around the directors and stars and I am
>looking for info on Moli (who directs most of the Magma productions)
>and his favourite actors & actresses.
>If anyone has a favourite Euro label and/or film I would be grateful
>for comments such as why they like that particular label/film/star.
>Is Euro porn popular in the States - how is it regarded by Americans
>and others outside Europe?
>Thanks in advance for your help
>
>Regards
>
>Terry
>
>
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Terry:
I am in Canada and we get Euro porn here - even before the USA.
I prefer it to most USA porn (with a few US exceptionms
(VCA, Caballero etc)
The reason is I was in Eurpoe in the 1970's and appreciated the
quality of productions like Private and a little known Swedish
magazine SELECTA.
Whille the US was emerging from 8 mm loops in the 70's these
outfits were setting the new standards.
Some US stars I could appreciate on real film. Actresses such as
Veronica Hart and Annette Haven were real pros.
Over here, we can get Magma and other Euro lines.
By the way they are in the original language - French, German,
Swedish etc.... I don't mind buying them - some Americans might -
unless dubbed into English. English dubbing wrecks many of these
films.IMHO - By the way I have over 1,500 vids in my collection.
Personally I prefer the older Magma productions. Since I compare
non sex production qualities to mainstream films - I find much of the
new stuff aims at being more and more bizarre, to the suffering of
other production values.
My favourite French Line is "Video Marc Dorcel". He uses beautiful
women, lush locations, clever story lines, even composed scores in
some films. His films can be truly comic (nothing more fun than a
comic porn film). in "La Parfum de Mathilde" he made a masterpiece
and won a Euro porn award for it. He produced a successful take off
on Citizen Kane called "Citizen Shane".
I believe he introduced the beautiful Draghixa Laurent to the
business. She starred in both films.
Ricaud was my favorite Dorcel director. Sadly he was killed in an
accident while filming (in either the Seychelles or Mauritius)
My favorite Danish / German line is Private -- enough said there.
My favorite Italian line is COLMAX. They produce films along the
lines of Dorcel and Private. In a 2 film set entitled Viva Roma 1 and
2, they actually had a story set in WW2 and had included historical
newsreel footage in the film ---- and a SCRIPT Heaven forbid - (why
do most Americans seem to shun these, in porn?)
As I said, the Magma stuff seems somewhat strange these days, but I
really liked some of their earlier films better.
As to Actresses - I Like Draghixa, Olinka, T Cash ( better before boob
job), Angelica Bella, Zara Whites etc.
In the way of acrtors, I find Roberto Malone of Italy actually is a
pretty fgood actor as well. I find Christof Clark seems to have a bit
of an attitude (as does rocco S at times) Malone seems more natural.
I think that that is the key in Euro films "Natural" is the key
attribute. Natural breasts - pretty women - good acting - outdoor sex
lush villas and other sets- ,. They all set Euro porn apart.
This may be a biased view - but to me if porn and mainstream are to
merge - it will be by this route and NOT via the Max Hardcore route.
I hope my rant is of some small value to you. I would really enjoy
reading of your research results in the newsgroup.
Best of Luck!
TC
lat...@hotmail.com
>
>My favorite Danish / German line is Private -- enough said there.
Good call, generally speaking, but Private is very much Swedish!
>
>I think that that is the key in Euro films "Natural" is the key
>attribute. Natural breasts - pretty women - good acting - outdoor sex
>lush villas and other sets- ,. They all set Euro porn apart.
Agreed. When US porn attempts to be classy it ends up in the nouveau
riche stylings of Vivid etc. Ouch!
lat...@hotmail.com
wrote:
>britfriend wrote:
>
>> I am doing an article for a Lifstyle magazine here in the UK. I have
>> read many of the postings and appreciate most are based around the
>> American porn movie industry.
>> I am hoping that I might get some reliable information on Euro porn
>> makers Magma who I believe (along with Seventeen, Private and
>Chick)are
>> easily the best and highest quality labels available.
>
>Magma stands not for good quality. This firm stand more for 'quick and
>dirty' and they aren't the biggest in Germany.
Quality is rather a dubious term. Quality to me means well-shot,
well-edited and well-lit with good-looking women. Moli's videos tend
to deliver on all of these things IMO. (As I said in another of post
in this thread much of his output is non-fetish as far as I can tell).
If quality means big budgets, half-arsed attempts at acting and
'glamour' then your comment is fair enough. Sometimes this works,
other times it doesn't. If the sex is hot then fine, but if I want to
see a 'quality' movie I will visit the cinema.
> Bigger than Magma are
>Videorama, DBM and Goldlight. Especially Videorama and Goldlight are
>on
>the market with some good quality and high budget series.
A lot of Videorama's stuff seems to be helmed by Harry S Morgan,
right? Maximum Perversum is one of their 'labels' if I recall
correctly. I can't see too much difference between some Videorama
stuff I've seen and some of the Magma stuff (In fact I tend to mix the
two up!).
> Goldlight for
>example released in December the movie 'Stavros' with a budget of
>700.000 Euros.
The budget for 'Titanic' was enormous and it stank. The budget for
'Clerks' was miniscule and it was a gem. What applies in the world of
mainstream applies in porn as well.
lat...@hotmail.com
this one hasn't - apologies to the Mods if this turns out to be a
double post.
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:48:34, "Douglas B" <doug...@postmaster.co.uk>
wrote:
>Hey,
>
>As I'm writing from the UK, you might not appreciate the following, but what
>the heck...
Also writing from the UK and disagreeing strongly...
>
>Indeed, Magma are indeed touted as one of the Euro studios, but in all
>honesty, that isn't saying much. The bulk of their output (alongside
>studios like Maximum Perversion) seems to be aimed at the German-ic market
>and as such is about as appealing as old socks. German porn is heavily
>fixated on fetish material, but not in any stylish way.
I don't believe this is true. There is a lot of German porn that
contains fetish material, but there would undoubtedly be a lot of US
porn of a similar nature if such material didn't scare off the big US
companies. OTOH I've seen a fair amount of German stuff (e.g. some
Teeny Exzesse films, the Lollipops series - which are actually be
directed by Moli) which is non-fetish and in which even anal scenes
are not all that common. The Germans as a nation have a similar wide
spread of tastes as any other country.
> I understand it has
>a limited appeal in the US and elsewhere because it contains material
>(fisting, pissing, etc.) that's not generally found elsewhere, but it's just
>really badly made.
People in the US on this ng are clammering for fisting and pissing
scenes in their native porn. Much of the German porn that gets
exported to the US would seem to be of this extreme variety but this
is fairly understandable. The US is able to provide for its own
non-fetish market, it doesn't need to import foreign non-fetish
material. As someone who has lived in Germany and Austria I can
confirm that there's a wide variety of material available in the
German speaking countries.
>Given that Moli has been making films for years (I used
>to have some bio on him, but it's gone...) the production values are poor,
>editing etc. ropey, and the whole product generally tedious. What sells
>them I think are the covers, which are usually very eye-catching (...) but
>the films are lousy. Oh, and they always have terrible, to the point of
>laughable, dubbed soundtracks and odd English narration.
Most of the Moli material I have seen has been extremely well shot - a
good variety of views and different distances, a tendency to shoot far
more in 'real time' than US porn which adds to spontaneity, and a
complete absence of the kind of lame framing of shots that disfigures
a lot of US production.
Also Moli films only have bad dubbing if you buy the dubbed versions
(I presume you mean dubbed into English - if you mean dubbed into
German, how can you tell??).
>
>My impression is that the Magma-style doesn't rely on 'stars' as such,
>drawing performers much more from the amateur/fetish scene.
More a case of drawing on the seemingly inexhaustible supply of nubile
East Europeans on the shy side of 20!!!
> If you're
>looking for 'stars', there's the UK's very own Ben Dover and 'Kelly' who
>usually works with Rocco Siffredi.
Kelly has made, what, a dozen films at most?
> The Italians have a history of producing
>popular performers but who the current generation are I have no idea.
>Directors/performers like Siffredi and Christof Clarke have made a nice
>living doing US-friendly smut that also appeals to Euro-audiences but Europe
>only has one guy who really knows what he's doing: Mario Salieri, an Italian
>director who genuinely tries to create a little work of art within the
>limits of the genre. His stuff appears on the French Colmax label in dubbed
>form.
>
>D.
> ----- Original Message -----
>From: britfriend <britf...@altavista.com>
>Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.erotica
>Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2000 10:28 AM
>Subject: European Porn - Magma Label
>
>
>> I am doing an article for a Lifstyle magazine here in the UK. I have
>> read many of the postings and appreciate most are based around the
>> American porn movie industry.
>> I am hoping that I might get some reliable information on Euro porn
>> makers Magma who I believe (along with Seventeen, Private and Chick)are
>> easily the best and highest quality labels available.
>> The article is primarily based around the directors and stars and I am
>> looking for info on Moli (who directs most of the Magma productions)
>> and his favourite actors & actresses.
>> If anyone has a favourite Euro label and/or film I would be grateful
>> for comments such as why they like that particular label/film/star.
>> Is Euro porn popular in the States - how is it regarded by Americans
>> and others outside Europe?
>> Thanks in advance for your help
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Terry
The Colonel
wrote:
>
>I write from Italy and can give some insights about italian porn.
As you are from Italy I wonder if you might be able to help me
on a couple of stars?
I am a huge fan of the lovely Luana Borgia. Living in
Britain makes it very difficult to find out information on adult
stars. Luckily satellite subscriptions to SCT (Italian porn channel)
and others means that I do occasionally get some of her movies.
For some time now I have been trying to find a full listing of
all her movies. As pornstars seem so popular in Italy I am surprised
that this information is not available? In an obscure British
magazine called 'Porco Mondo' there was an interview with her that
gave a listing of titles up to 1994, so this information is available.
She must have done movies after this time because I have seen some on
SCT (Luana Borgia Video show for example). Do you know if she has a
fan club or where I might be able to locate a listing of all her
films? As her first movie is given as 1990 do you know if she has
retired yet?
In the interview she states that: "I won the 'Miss World"
contest in Italy and spent a couple of weeks in New York City. Have
you ever heard of this? Some pedigree for a pornstar if it is true.
Another favourite of mine is Deborah Wells who I think now
resides in Italy. Do you have any information on her? Again her
Americans films are easy to identify but not so her euro movies. It
does not help that in her early career she used a number of different
names. Since leaving America she seems to have stuck with DW.
My apologies for so many questions but it is not very often
Europeans post on this list. Plus living in Britain means I am a
desperate man! :-)
Thanks in advance,
Colonel John Amery
The Colonel
>. As someone who has lived in Germany and Austria I can
>confirm that there's a wide variety of material available in the
>German speaking countries.
What on earth made you return to 'nanny' Britain Mr. Lattara?
Are you mad? If I had the good fortune to move to Europe I would
never return to Britain. Unless of course they expelled you :-)
Italy had Cicciolina as a politician and I read that the
stunning Eva Henga may also be looking at going down the same route.
Who do we have in Britain? Anne Widdecombe! I guess that sums up
Britain in two words! :-)
Colonel John Amery
Bitt...@my-deja.com
> starlet Magdalena/May and is featuring her in several videos as Bibi
> Blue/Blondie.
>
QUESTION: Private put out a video titled "Kruger Park" which was
supposed to have been shot in Africa, someplace. In this vid was a
young babe named "Blondie" whom Private sez is Russian. Is this the
same Blondie you are citing here ?
The 'Blondie' in Private's vids is ever so gorgeous, and I am trying to
collect all of her movies, as Private only has her in about 4-5 video's.
This 'Blondie' is, I think, an Olivia Newton John look-alike. I'd
appreciate confirmation of this.
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Niklas Zypher
> . Recently Magma have adopted Private's
> > starlet Magdalena/May and is featuring her in several videos as Bibi
> > Blue/Blondie.
> >
>
> QUESTION: Private put out a video titled "Kruger Park" which was
> supposed to have been shot in Africa, someplace. In this vid was a
> young babe named "Blondie" whom Private sez is Russian. Is this the
> same Blondie you are citing here ? [...]
>
No, they are not the same.
Zypher
TC
wrote:
There is/was also an American porn actress called Blondie
(sometimes billed as Blondie B or Blondie Bee)
TC
TC
Colonel) wrote:
>On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 14:37:15, lat...@hotmail.com
>(lat...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>
>
>>. As someone who has lived in Germany and Austria I can
>>confirm that there's a wide variety of material available in the
>>German speaking countries.
>
> What on earth made you return to 'nanny' Britain Mr. Lattara?
>Are you mad? If I had the good fortune to move to Europe I would
>never return to Britain. Unless of course they expelled you :-)
>
> Italy had Cicciolina as a politician and I read that the
>stunning Eva Henga may also be looking at going down the same route.
>Who do we have in Britain? Anne Widdecombe! I guess that sums up
>Britain in two words! :-)
>
>Colonel John Amery
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Dear Colonel:
You mean you don't have Maggie Thatcher's x rated videos
from her wild and well hidden past? ;-)
TC
----
lat...@hotmail.com
>On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 20:57:02, the.c...@vaduz1778.demon.co.uk (The
>Colonel) wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 04 Mar 2000 14:37:15, lat...@hotmail.com
>>(lat...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>. As someone who has lived in Germany and Austria I can
>>>confirm that there's a wide variety of material available in the
>>>German speaking countries.
>>
>> What on earth made you return to 'nanny' Britain Mr. Lattara?
>>Are you mad? If I had the good fortune to move to Europe I would
>>never return to Britain. Unless of course they expelled you :-)
Well, my student visa did expire...
Also staying out of Britain would have involved living in continental
Europe - something of a swings and roundabouts situation. OK, I can
buy porn, but the bureaucracy of life in Austria would drive any
Englishman mad. And I speak as a bureaucrat :-)
>>
>> Italy had Cicciolina as a politician and I read that the
>>stunning Eva Henga may also be looking at going down the same route.
>>Who do we have in Britain? Anne Widdecombe! I guess that sums up
>>Britain in two words! :-)
Come on, Colonel. You have to admit that Teresa Gorman is pretty hot
<g>
>>
>>Colonel John Amery
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>
>Dear Colonel:
>
>You mean you don't have Maggie Thatcher's x rated videos
>from her wild and well hidden past? ;-)
>
>TC
> ----
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>>> What on earth made you return to 'nanny' Britain Mr. Lattara?
>>>Are you mad? If I had the good fortune to move to Europe I would
>>>never return to Britain. Unless of course they expelled you :-)
>
>Well, my student visa did expire...
Poor excuse :-) I hope you returned with a nice selection of
'cultural videos' :-) The 'Singing Ringing Tree' springs to mind!
>
>Also staying out of Britain would have involved living in continental
>Europe - something of a swings and roundabouts situation. OK, I can
>buy porn, but the bureaucracy of life in Austria would drive any
>Englishman mad. And I speak as a bureaucrat :-)
What is more important than getting hardcore porn? :-) Have
you started to read the 'Daily Mail' again? :-)
>>>
>>> Italy had Cicciolina as a politician and I read that the
>>>stunning Eva Henga may also be looking at going down the same route.
>>>Who do we have in Britain? Anne Widdecombe! I guess that sums up
>>>Britain in two words! :-)
>
>Come on, Colonel. You have to admit that Teresa Gorman is pretty hot
><g>
You can have Teresa Gorman and I will take Eva Henga. Have
you seen any movies with the beautiful Ms. Henga?
Colonel John Amery
lat...@hotmail.com
Colonel) wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:19:10, lat...@hotmail.com
>(lat...@hotmail.com) wrote:
>
>>>> What on earth made you return to 'nanny' Britain Mr. Lattara?
>>>>Are you mad? If I had the good fortune to move to Europe I would
>>>>never return to Britain. Unless of course they expelled you :-)
>>
>>Well, my student visa did expire...
>
> Poor excuse :-) I hope you returned with a nice selection of
>'cultural videos' :-) The 'Singing Ringing Tree' springs to mind!
Any anal scenes in that :-)
>>
>>Also staying out of Britain would have involved living in continental
>>Europe - something of a swings and roundabouts situation. OK, I can
>>buy porn, but the bureaucracy of life in Austria would drive any
>>Englishman mad. And I speak as a bureaucrat :-)
>
> What is more important than getting hardcore porn? :-) Have
>you started to read the 'Daily Mail' again? :-)
Now that's a terrible thing to say to anyone.
>>
>>Come on, Colonel. You have to admit that Teresa Gorman is pretty hot
>><g>
>
> You can have Teresa Gorman and I will take Eva Henga. Have
>you seen any movies with the beautiful Ms. Henga?
I haven't, but I hear there is a video of Mrs Gorman doing the rounds
of the Commons ('Hot Tories on HDT' IIRC).