A profile of Brandy Alexandre
LUZDEDOS
Brandy Alexandre blossomed into a full-fledged porn bimbo in January 1987
>when reamed by Harry Reems and butt-fucked by Buck Adams. Other than that
>she's "a good Mormon girl. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't do drugs. I
>just fuck in front of the camera for money." (Hustler , 1991)
>
>
>"Evil Angel Video - where she is promo person, writer, and resident
>cocksucker - has released most of her flicks, but she'll work for anyone
>who treats her nicely." (Hustler)
>
>
>Brandy's credits include Blowing in Style, Dreams in the Forbidden Zone,
>Mystic Pieces and Unchain My Heart.
>
>Brandy stands 5'2" with natural blonde hair and green eyes. Born 7/17/64,
>she appeared in 56 sexvids. Her real name is Kathleen Smith.
>
>Alexandre, who looks like Gorgette of the Mary Tyler Moore TV show,
>entered porn after sharing an apartment with Bill Margold. He persuaded
>her in 1986 to enter a Miss Nude contest and she won. She'd hung around
>with industry people for several months and finally took the plunge,
>figuring it would hurt her ex-boyfriend. She sent him her first tapes but
>didn't hear back.
>
>Her first movie was Showdown at the Erogenous Zone where Brandy turns
into
>a mannequin. The movie was renamed Rippin' and Strippin'. Her first
>hardcore flick was Best Friends 2 - a gay male vid.
>
>"Dad never says anything about my career even when he's doing my tax
>return and writing off 50 pairs of panties as "supplies"."
>
>
>As for her cocksucking technique: "Some guys like a girl to suck all the
>time, but my lips get numb. So I put a lot of hand work into it. I watch
>the way guys get themselves ready for a scene, how they stroke, and I pay
>attention to whether they like it on the head, or if they like to have
the
>base touched - long strokes, short strokes, wet or dry.
>
>
>"When I finally got Randy West, it was the last scene of a low-budget
>production and the crew needed us to hurry. Randy was doing back-to-back,
>and he feared not being able to get it up. But because of the special
>attention I give my co-stars, things worked out. In fact, he had to stop
>several times because it was too hot for him. I loved it - a cum shot on
>the face, which is the most important thing in this business.
>
>
>"I like cum everywhere. This is my theory for cum shots in the face. The
>camera is always on the cum-shot, and where do you want that camera? On
>your butt? On your pussy? On your tits? Or do you want it on your face?I
>want it on my face. And I like the warm splashy feeling.
>
>
>"For Blowing in Style, my cum shot movie where I take it in the face in
>all eight scenes [in truth, three scenes], the promo on the box reads:
>"Too many of today's starlets don't do it dirty. They don't want men to
>mess up their make-up." Someone told them it was degrading for a guy to
>come on their face, and now they won't do it. It's not degrading. I love
>it. I request it. I won't do girls, so it's a nice compromise."
>
>Blowing in Style begins with Brandy playing a woman who thinks blow jobs
>are "icky." Her sister and friends all love them and they try to change
>her mind.
>
>
>"The questions most actresses ask is, "How much?" My question is "With
>who?"
>"A girl can do me, and I'll kiss a girl, but I won't go down on her. And
>I'll rarely do anal.
>
>
>"I'm everybody's second choice in this business. They call me if someone
>doesn't show up - and I hate that.
>
>
>"Buck Adams once called. Someone had left his set of My Wildest Date.
>
>
>"I told him I felt rowdy and might do an anal. So we start to do the
>scene, and I whisper in his ear, "Sorry Buck, no." We were doing it doggy
>style, and he pulled out and went in the other hole. And I said "You move
>another fraction of an inch and you're dead." He says, "Just another
>minute, just another minute."
>
>
>So Buck buggered Brandy.
>
>Alexandre also put her ass on the line in Putting Her Ass on the Line,
>Caught From Behind 9 and Cheeks 5.
>
>Brandy appeared in John Stagliano's video De Blonde, playing a character
>who talks to God about her concerns that guilt-ridden widower Alex Horn
>will commit suicide. She soothes his problems with her mouth and vagina.
>
>Rarely a first choice, Brandy's Mormon work ethic created most of her
porn
>appearances. With her unusual looks, she's far from beautiful and with
her
>prickly personality, she's far from pleasant. But Brandy was always
there.
>As the cliche goes, "Half the trick in life is showing up."
>
>Brandy uses sex to get what she wants.
>
>"I get disgusted when people offer to pay me for sex, and even more
>disgusted when they don't, thinking I'm not even the quality of a
>prostitute and I would just give it away for the asking. Popular opinon
to
>the contrary, a porn star's life is not fixated on achieving sex. With
sex
>being my business, I have to have a very good reason for doing it. A
lunch
>or dinner date is not a good enough reason. Having prejudged most men,
>with good cause, I am reluctant to accept such invitations anyway.
>
>"Sex for sport is not out of the question... Using sex to get a good deal
>or special favor... Also, meeting a celebrity that I know other women
wish
>they could get their hands on, or a cop who's about to give me a ticket.
>I'm going to be unhappy when I get old and wrinkled.
>
>"I expect that anyone who has watched one of my movies has jerked off to
>me. Otherwise I didn't do something right...
>
>"I have been approached my both threatening and non-threatening
>individuals. It's easy tot ell the difference. Usually the ones you need
>to be afraid of are not only saying htat they like your work, but they go
>into detail about what they do when they watch you...or what they
>fantasize about doing with you... Those are the ones who have lost
>perspective and from whose presence you should immediately remove
>yourself. They'll call you a bitch and a slut for rejecting them, but few
>deserve any special consideration because of it.
>
>
>"I love romance, flowers, balloons, little surprise presents. And just
the
>offer of something fun to do, instead of "Let's go to dinner and a
movie."
>Just offer me something stimulating and risky. Boating, white-water
>rafting, bicycling, or sex in the alley. Now that's fun because you can
>get caught. Many police departments know me well.
>
>
>"I was shopping for a car, and this salesman tried to make it with me. So
>I said, "Is there some place where we can be alone for ten minutes and I
>can suck your dick and get that out of the way?" His jaw about hit the
>ground, and all he could do was point to this grimy little bathroom in
the
>service department. And he had the biggest dick I ever saw.
>
>
>"Afterwards I decided I didn't want the car and left. I went to another
>dealer and I told the salesman if he brought the price down to cost, I'd
>give him something special. So I fucked him, but I never bought the car.
>
>
>"Once, I was leaving a restaurant with Harry Reems and he says, "Ah, a
>good meal, I could use a blowjob now." And I told him he had to beg. He
>gets on his knees in the middle of the parking lot, people walking all
>around, and he says, "I want a blowjob." And I said, "Harry, I can't hear
>you." He says it loud - these people are staring at us. So I patted him
on
>the head an lifted him up by the elbow, and we walked to the car, and
>these people stared. We went around the corner to this alley.
>
>
>"I went with Harry for several months. Everyone thinks he's dead [1990]
>but I saw him recently.
>
>
>"I've been asked to get married half-a-dozen times, and I told myself the
>next guy who asks me, I'm going to marry. And it was Harry Reems when he
>came back to town. And I thought, "Well, the next person. I'd rather not
>marry an alcoholic"."
>
>
>Tired of being misidentified in reviews, Brandy published this letter to
>AVN (1/92), from which I excerpt.
>
>
>
>
>This isn't the first time my good work has gone miscredited, uncredited
or
>completely unnoticed. Pictures of me have been labeled "Victoria Paris",
>"Laurel Canyon", and "Sharon Kane". My name has been misspelled as
>"Brandi", "Brandee" and "Brande"; "Alexander" and "Alexandra".
>
>One of the most recent transgressions is in the July/August issue of AVN.
>In the review of Cheeks IV: A Backstreet Affair, Dirty Bob raves about a
>limo backseat blow job but doesn't say who did it (me). No wonder my
>career feels like its standing still - nobody knows I'm making movies.
>
>
>To set the record straight, here's a few tidbits of information for my
>fans and info for these highly qualified critics (cough): I did the limo
>scene and the hot tub scene in Puttin' Her Ass On The Line. And since
I've
>always believed that critics should notice, and that consumers should be
>told, when an actor crosses to the other side of the camera, I wrote
VCA's
>The Last Resort. I wrote, directed and starred in both Blowing In Style
>and De Blond from Evil Angel, as well as Cheeks V: The Ultimate Butt,
>coming soon from Coast to Coast, in which I did the first scene with my
>own "A" and the last scene. Of course, if it turns out bad, I'll just say
>it was Debi Diamond.
>
>
>
>Born in Huntington Beach, California on July 17, 1964, Brandy grew up the
>youngest of three girls. Her parents, to her relief, live in Utah, near
>her old boyfriend Harry Reems. Her two sisters are married with children
>"who adore their auntie. It's that birthday cash..."
>
>Brandy lost her virginity on May 16th, 1981 - her boyfriend's 30th
>birthday. "We'd been doing other things for several months. I've always
>had older male friends and had a more intellectual approach to sex. Sawa
>few adult movies at the Pussycat Theatre. I did it three times that
first
>night. Long before porn, I developed an affinity for facials and
>swallowing.
>
>"The funny thing about my discovery of sex was my second partner. I had
>only seen ten foot movie screen penises and the nine inch schlong of my
>handsome Israeli. When I encountered "Richard", I thought "Is this all
>there is?"
>
>"The first adult movie I saw was Exposed with John Leslie and Sharon
Kane,
>at the Torrance, California Pussycat. It was a double feature with
>Tangerine which I can't remember. Then we saw Champagne For Breakfast
with
>John Leslie and Annette Haven. One of the reasons I entered the biz was
to
>work with John...
>
>"The first time I met John Stagliano was my video Tricks of the Trade. I
>read the script and was amazed at the parallels it contained to my own
>life. The story centers on a girl who wants to get into movies to meet
her
>favorite director who happened to be played by John Leslie.
>
>"Any actress who tells you she gets off on camera is only telling you
what
>you want to hear. It's work."
>
>Brandy is single and lives with her furry Siamese cat Kami - short for
>Kamikazie. "I can't cook, I'm a lousy housekeeper and I watch too much
>TV," says Brandy. "I spend too much time on the internet." The
>ex-performer received from fans a free Pentium computer, monitor,
Internet
>Service Provider, Domain Name, and regular donations of cash to keep up
>her web page. Brandy posts her views at Alt.Sex.Movies., Misc.Writing and
>Rec.Arts.Movies.Erotica.
>
>"I have a knack for electronics and taking things apart and figuring out
>how they work. I got my first computer in 1991 and began my internet
>experience with America On Line.
>
>"I get mail from men wanting to get into the movies and I laugh because
>all they know is what they see in the finished product - guys happily
>banging away at beautiful women. They don't realize how long it took to
>shoot those scenes, what the attitude of the women and crew was, how many
>lights there were, how many people there were... Sure, everyone likes
sex,
>but sex on demand is different.
>
>"The industry is a boys club. If a woman does something to one of the
>boys, no matter if she had a legal, moral or ethical right to, she's
>history. I sued someone and won, but, alas, I had sued one of the "boys."
>Evil Angel Video owes me $10,000, Coast to Coast owes me $3,000, and
>Charlie Biggs aka Phil Prince, owes me $4000."
>
>Brandy took part of her case against John Stagliano to the TV show
>People's Court.
>
>"The plaintiff, Brandy Alexandre, is a pornographic movie actress who's
>suing her ex-lover for royalties she claims he agreed to pay her for one
>of the movies she was in, as well as pain and suffering caused by teh
>break-up of the relationship. She's seeking $5000. The defendant, John
>Stagliano, says he doesn't owe Ms. Alexandre a thing, and that any
>royalties that may have been due were offset by his payment of medical
>bills which the plaintiff incurred while she was in hospital. This is the
>case we call Porn To Lose."
>
>The tape in question was Buttman in Rio, shot in Brazil in the Spring of
>'90 while Alexandre and Stagliano were still an item. Their relationship
>ended soon after. As part of a mutually agreed financial settlement, for
>Brandy helped John found Evil Angel Video, Stagliano was to give
Alexandre
>40 cents for each tape of that title sold during the first year. He paid
>her a certain amount, but Brandy claimed he still owed her $1200.
>
>Stagliano agreed that he hadn't paid her the full royalties, but claimed
>that the $4500 he laid for her hospital stay in August of '90 more than
>offset the debt. Judge Wapner disagreed, noting that there hadn't been
any
>prearrangement that the hospital pay-off would cancell the royalties
owed.
>He ruled in Alexandre's favor for $1228. But she got nothing for pain and
>suffering. "If I let you get away with money damages because you took the
>break-up harder than he did," said Judge Wapner, "every woman in
>California who's ever been jilted would be filing suit tomorrow."
>
>In January, 1995, Brandy posted several times on the internet that Jack
>Baker, a former mainstream actor who did non-sex roles in several movies
>for Gregory Dark, had died because he was a junkie and a drug addict. It
>turned out that Baker had died of cancer.
>
>When Stagliano tested HIV positive in early 1997, she demonstrated a
>different attitude.
>
>"I spoke at length with John," Brandy wrote on RAME. "I told him the news
>made it to the net and he said he does not care. I told him what many
>people are speculating about him, he said he does not care. I told him
the
>future and interest in Buttman had been questioned by his online fans
>based on flying accusations of bisexuality. He said he does not care. He
>said that none of your opinions matter to him. I asked if there was
>anything he would like me to post, and gues what - he hsaid he didn't
>care."
>
>I began email exchanges with Brandy in December of 1996 which I soon
>regretted because of her cutting manner. She told me that anyone who is
>not in the industry had no business writing on porn.
>
>A porn and internet veteran wrote to me in late January and early
>February, 1997: "Everyone who has truck with Brandy gets flamed by her.I
>warn you that whenever your book comes out, hers may well, too. And
you'll
>be lumped in with her, and she will harm you if she gets the chance.
Aside
>from Bill Margold and Jim Holliday, I have never seen such a deep-seated
>NEED, absolute ADDICTION to being known... She approaches the endless
>flame-wars of the Internet with a vehemance and persistence that you can
>never match. It's pathological.
>
>"Brandy must be famous. She wasn't famous as an actress. The major reason
>she worked was that producers knew she would show up on time.
>
>"It's no accident that Bill was and is Brandy's...mentor. Their various
>feuds erupt precisely when one or the other gets a whiff of fame. Like
>monopoles of like charge, they repel in direct proportion to their hit of
>fame.
>
>"Brandy used to brag about fucking "Billy" (i.e. director William
>Friedkin) when it turned out she was simply a secretary in an office the
>director visited once in a while. He never gave her the time of day,
which
>is the ACTUAL reason she decided to get into the biz. To "show" him.
>
>"Want some fun? Go to Deja News, select a filter and enter under AUTHOR
>field, Bra...@kamikaze.org. Leave the other fields blank.
>
>"I left ASM a couple of years ago because she had gone insane, trying to
>be "THE" expert on porn, and attacking anyone that might get in her way.
>
>"RAME was formed in large part to put an end to her monpoly of the
>newsgroups...
>
>"The three-year flame war on her part has not waned. She is dangerous.
>Brandy knows hackers, etc., and she will not hesitate to harm you. Her
>hacker friends harass and kill-file those she doesn't like and gets them
>kicked off their Internet Service Providers."
>
>I heard most of the accusations above, including the last one, from
>several reliable sources.
>
>Like Bill Margold, Jim Holliday loves Brandy. In AVN 9/92, Jim writes: "I
>have known the person almost as long as anyone in the industry. Brandy
>Alexandre is one of the most committed pro-industry people we have. For
>those who don't look, she also possesses one of the three best asses in
>the biz. She is available for work as an actress, contrary to public
>opinion. Dial the phone."
>
>On Wednesday night, 2/5/97, N. Smith at 7:31 PM Greenwich Mean Time broke
>the news of John Stagliano's HIV Positive status on Rec. Arts. Movies.
>Erotica.. Mike South, Brandy and others followed, mentioning Nena
Cherry's
>positive tests. I read the news just after 6 AM PST Thursday and started
>checking sources, including a 30-minute phone call to Bill Margold, much
>of which we both understood I'd post on the internet.
>
>I then posted Margold's comments on ASM and RAME, leading the latter with
>"Bill Margold says he's ready to talk to the world to fight for "his son"
>John Stagliano..." I also mentioned that Nena Cherry had a reputation for
>using drugs and spreading sexually transmitted diseases. That news was
>also posted hours before me by such persons as Mike South.
>
>Brandy read my posts, became furious and phoned her roommate of two years
>Bill Margold. She wrote on ASM: "Like it or not, Loser Luke, hard as you
>tried you did not get to be the first to break the news.... I have spoken
>to Margold about your extreme lack of discretion and I assure you he will
>no longer be a "source" of your information if I have anything to do with
>it.
>
>"Do you always burn people this way or were you momentarily an utter and
>complete lowlife, slime-sucking, tabloid moron who *thinks* he's a
>writer?"
>
>I talked to Bill in the afternoon. He told me that by posting on Nena
>Cherry's alleged drug use I had committed a big mistake that'd get me
>blackballed from the industry. He accused me of revelling in the misery
of
>others. Bill said he was the clearing house for information about porn
and
>that he'd see to it that no one talked to me.
>
>Bill added that he'd never thought much of me, that I was a lousy writer
>who'd never finish this book. And he passed on a warning that Brandy,
>who's "very popular on the internet" would get me kicked off it.
>
>At midnight, the friend whose computer I'd been using to make my posts,
>phoned hysterical. She'd suddenly decided to cancel her internet provider
>AOL.
>
>Pornographer Mike South rose to my defense on ASM on Friday. "Luke was
NOT
>the first to post this info. And truth is, who cares if he was if what he
>posted was accurate, and with the possible exception of a final status of
>Nena Cherry he was very accurate including Nina's reputation as a drug
>user.
>
>"Let's not fall into the old "Kill the messenger" mentality..."
>
>Brandy responded: "...He [Luke] is not an entity in the industry and has
>no business running off at the mouth...
>
>"All his porn sources are officially closed, at least on this end. If
>that's not so I'm sure he'll tell me so. In that event I will rip new
>asshole for those parties as well."
>
>I began using another friend's computer to access the internet and post
on
>such newsgroups as RAME. Within days my friend received obscene messages
>warning him against allowing me to use his computer.
>
>On March 21st, 1997, Brandy replied to my latest post on Alt.Sex.Movies.
>"It has been my pleasure to drop a note to Barclay House about the
posting
>of major portions of Luke Ford's book (if not all of it) [in reality
about
>1% of it] on the net. I'm certain they will no longer be interested in
>paying any amount close to first rights since this spam can be read by
>millions of people around the world.
>
>"As an aspiring writer, I have thoroughly investigated the do's and
don'ts
>of the net and publishing. Glad to see this loser hasn't and I can so
>easily affect any commercial interest in the book.
>
>"It was also my pleasure to include in my letter who I was and what I
know
>about the alleged Mafia in the industry. I also informed them that Mr.
>Ford's major (if not only) source within the industry has cut him off due
>to Mr. Ford's outlandish behavior, i.e., kiss and tell (you know who,
>Luke) [Bill Margold] spreading rumors, and even behavior that had him
>kicked off AOL."
>
>Reacting to my role in spreading the news about John Stagliano's HIV
>positive status, AVN's Mark Kernes wrote in the trade magazine's April,
>1997 issue "Industry gossip monger Luke Ford..."
>
>Brandy described Kernes on RAME as a "slug. He'll do whatever AVN tells
>him and believes what he's told to believe because this is the closest he
>can ever get to a woman without having to fork over major change or get
>his drolling face slapped."
>
Brandy Alexandre
In article <rame.862020563p9375@primus>, luzd...@aol.com wrote:
[snipped several lines of Hustler vengence and general interview and rag
article fluff]
Do you think he's really trying very, very hard to flame me disguising it as
somehow on-topic, interesting or newsworthy?
For the record I have never been interviewed by this alleged
writer/journalist. Nor has he ever asked or even tried. He seems abit
obsessed -- to the point of being really scary -- that he either
squirrelishly archives every word I utter/type or fanatically scans dejanews
for anything with the word "brandy" in it (I wonder if he got all those cool
drink recipes. Maybe that's the problem...)
He's apparently not interest in truth and facts, only reprinting over and over
again whatever he reads in a magazine or online that millions of other people
have already read for themselves, or have access to if they give a poopie. He
can't even get my name right. Heaven forbid he ever go after anything new or
genuine. Who was it that posted the comment about Luke about getting a thrill
out of saying/writing dirty words? I tend to agree. I'm still waiting for
anything informative or thought provoking to come from this great, yet
unpublished, writer.
You can quoted Luzer (and I have no doubt you will).
Brandy Alexandre
http://kamikaze.org
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Mike South
On Sat, 26 Apr 97 10:58:00, bra...@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre)
wrote:
>In article <rame.862020563p9375@primus>, luzd...@aol.com wrote:
>
>[snipped several lines of Hustler vengence and general interview and rag
>article fluff]
>
>Do you think he's really trying very, very hard to flame me disguising it as
>somehow on-topic, interesting or newsworthy?
>
>For the record I have never been interviewed by this alleged
>writer/journalist. Nor has he ever asked or even tried. He seems abit
>obsessed -- to the point of being really scary -- that he either
>squirrelishly archives every word I utter/type or fanatically scans dejanews
>for anything with the word "brandy" in it (I wonder if he got all thosecool
>drink recipes. Maybe that's the problem...)
>
>He's apparently not interest in truth and facts, only reprinting over and over
>again whatever he reads in a magazine or online that millions of other people
>have already read for themselves, or have access to if they give a poopie. He
>can't even get my name right. Heaven forbid he ever go after anything new or
>genuine. Who was it that posted the comment about Luke about getting athrill
>out of saying/writing dirty words? I tend to agree. I'm still waitingfor
>anything informative or thought provoking to come from this great, yet
>unpublished, writer.
>
>You can quoted Luzer (and I have no doubt you will).
>
>
>Brandy Alexandre
>http://kamikaze.org
Not that I'm any big fan of Luke's or yours for that matter. Actually
I'm apathetic about the whole deal, but Brandy, if you terrorize a
dog, an animal or a human long enough they will attack you, this
shouldn't be a big surprize.
Mike South
Producer/Director
"Mike South's Southern Belles"
"Mike South's Travels"
Winner 1997 AVN Best Amateur Video
Winner Rocky Mountain Oyster Readers Poll Best Pro-Am Series 1996
Brandy Alexandre
In article <rame.862106151p28937@primus>, sbs...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
>Not that I'm any big fan of Luke's or yours for that matter. Actually
>I'm apathetic about the whole deal, but Brandy, if you terrorize a
>dog, an animal or a human long enough they will attack you, this
>
However true that may be, I'm not aware of doing much more than pointingout
his many errors and alerting other to his (massive) failings as a sourceof
information.
But thank you for you concern. ;)
Mike South
On Sat, 26 Apr 97 21:52:01, bra...@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre)
wrote:
These things can be done without without making personal
attacks...loser Luke and such comes to mind. You don't like to be
attacked personally, nor do I nor does anyone (except maybe Margold)
BTW As far as Margold goes, I like the guy he is a tireless worker for
this biz and I hope that everyone realizes that my provocations of him
are good natured...He would hate reading that.
Sensations
bra...@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre) wrote:
>In article <rame.862106151p28937@primus>, sbs...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>>
>>Not that I'm any big fan of Luke's or yours for that matter. Actually
>>I'm apathetic about the whole deal, but Brandy, if you terrorize a
>>dog, an animal or a human long enough they will attack you, this
>>shouldn't be a big surprize.
>>
>However true that may be, I'm not aware of doing much more than pointingout
>his many errors and alerting other to his (massive) failings as a sourceof
>information.
>
>But thank you for you concern. ;)
>
>
>Brandy Alexandre
Below is the interaction between Brandy and a person who had the nerve
to rate her show a 1 on a scale of 10. The person posts these on her
website and gives this intro. It speaks for itself but pay special
attention to Alexander's congenial, nonjudgmental nature.
>>Sometimes I get e-mail from famous people. Sometimes, they don't like me (baaa, haaa)
From: Brandy Alexandre[SMTP:bra...@kamikaze.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 1997 7:36 PM
To: x...@hooked.net
Subject: You're full of shit.
I have only done three "shows", all of them peep booths, so it's not
like there's a gazillion of them that all blur together. I remember
each vividly.
I NAVER had a female customer. Not ONCE! You're a lying piece of shit
and if you know what's good for your PR I suggest you remove that
bullshit about seeing
my show and being with me. EVERYONE who knows ANYTHING about me knows
I don't do chicks. Especially the ugly biker-looking kind.
I'll going to enjoy exposing you as a crap artist on my website.
Brandy Alexandre
>>Hi Brandy,
>>It's too bad your memory is not as good as your letter writing.
I was at the Lusty Lady with my boyfriend. I think it was about 5
years ago. I'm sorry you
don't remember but I can understand why, I didn't stay long - maybe 30
seconds. My boyfriend stayed and enjoyed the show but, you're just not
my type. I
guess we are not attracted to each other (but, I don't consider myself
an ugly biker-looking chick). Sometimes there just isn't chemistry.
>>Perhaps you're just upset that I didn't rate your show higher?
By the way, where is your page? I'd like to check it out. I do enjoy
your movies and even
though you flamed me, I consider it an honor to hear from you.
>>nikki
Follow-up
>>I'm sorry you don't remember but I can understand why, I didn't stay long - maybe 30 seconds.
*IF* that were true, do you really think 30 second is enough to
legitimately rate a "show" and expect your comments to be valid?
>>Yea, I do. I'm either attracted to a woman or I'm not. My boyfriend stayed
and enjoyed the show but, you're just not my type. I guess we are not
attracted to each other (but, I don't consider myself an ugly
biker-looking chick). Sometimes there just isn't chemistry.
Perhaps you should let your boyfriend rate shows then.
>>Perhaps you're right. After all, it is the male audience that I am writing to
and he did like the show. I think I'll put in 2 reviews. I'll keep
mine up and add
his.
>>Perhaps you're just upset that I didn't rate your show higher?
If your opinion mattered to me that might be accurate. But I don't
know you and you're giving yourself too much credit.
>>Touché
>>By the way, where is your page? I'd like to check it out. I do enjoy
your movies and even though you flamed me, I consider it an honor to
hear from you.
At the risk of another "review" I welcome you to the site. Perhaps
having a little more background on your subject will help you concoct
you stories better.
>>No, no reviews on your site. I just like to check it out as a fan (Yes,I am a fan)
Brandy Alexandre
brandy
In article <rame.862166424p10898@primus>, symb...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>Below is the interaction between Brandy and a person who had the nerve
>to rate her show a 1 on a scale of 10. The person posts these on her
>website and gives this intro. It speaks for itself but pay special
>attention to Alexander's congenial, nonjudgmental nature.
>
>
>Sent: Thursday, January 30, 1997 7:36 PM
>To: x...@hooked.net
>Subject: You're full of shit.
>
>I have only done three "shows", all of them peep booths, so it's not
>like there's a gazillion of them that all blur together. I remember
>each vividly.
>
>and if you know what's good for your PR I suggest you remove that
>bullshit about seeing my show and being with me. EVERYONE who
>knows ANYTHING about me knows I don't do chicks. Especially the ugly
>biker-looking kind.
>From the "Anonymous Source"
> By the way, where is your page? I'd like to check it out. I do enjoy
>your movies and even though you flamed me, I consider it an honor to hear from
you.
>I'm sorry you don't remember but I can understand why, I didn't stay long -
> maybe 30 seconds.
>From Brandy:
>*IF* that were true, do you really think 30 second is enough to
>legitimately rate a "show" and expect your comments to be valid?
>
>>>Yea, I do. I'm either attracted to a woman or I'm not. My boyfriend stayed
> and enjoyed the show but, you're just not my type. I guess we are not
>attracted to each other (but, I don't consider myself an ugly
>biker-looking chick). Sometimes there just isn't chemistry.
>
>Perhaps you should let your boyfriend rate shows then.
[snip the rest of posts with compliments]
And your point is? I notice you took out the person's e-mail address --what
are you hiding from? You certainly would like all readers to be able to
access both sides of the story, wouldn't you? I mean, I didn't hoard away all
the e-mail she sent me like treasures. You also forgot to post the web
site so everyone here could go see that she is, indeed, an ugly
biker-looking chick regardless of what her mother told her.
She still continued to fawn over me once she realized that it was reallyme
who sent the e-mail.
We were talking about peep shows, not strip shows or any other production
number. As you pointed out she only stayed a moment (if indeed she was there,
but I think she's still just feeding lines to make her web site look good) I
never had any complaints from men.
Like I said, I'm not sure I see you point or what it would have to do with
Luke Ford and his book.
Brandy Alexandre
http://kamikaze.org
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Mike South
On Tue, 29 Apr 97 23:25:01, bra...@kamikaze.xxx (Brandy Alexandre)
wrote:
>In article <rame.862182386p17467@primus>, sbs...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
>>BTW As far as Margold goes, I like the guy he is a tireless worker for
>>this biz and I hope that everyone realizes that my provocations of him
>>are good natured...He would hate reading that.
>>
>Funny how you had to slide that in there in order to lend validity to you
>point. It's too late Mike. You've made it perfectly clear that you dislike
>Margold as much as I dislike Luke. No back-pedaling allowed when tryingto
>start another personal attack.
I don't think I've ever referred to Bill as a "loser", a "peice of
shit", "trash" or other outwardly derrogatory terms...I simply called
him an opinionated blowhard, which is how he would probably describe
himself...Why don't you ask your buddy Bill what our relationship is?
BTW I don't do personal attacks, I would never use your method of
disagreeing with someone. Personal attacks and beratement are usually
a sign of someone on a power trip which is usually a sign of low self
esteem.
I am having way too much fun in life to get stressed over stuff that
in the end is insignificant. Luke, you, me and Margold are all just
trying to carve out our place in life and none of you are a threat to
mine.
JRDL
You're absolutely correct, Mike. Well, almost . . . .
. . . . you don't use derrogatory terms to describe Bill Margold . . . .
you don't do personal attacks . . . . you don't use Brandy's method of
disagreeing with someone . . . . you carve, Luke carves, Brandy carves,
Bill carves . . . .
INSTEAD, you use transparent criticisms followed by impotent compliments
or worse yet, apologies/explainations to describe, attack, disagree, and
carve. You like being the "fly in the ointment" don't you? I'm sure that
you're doing the best you can with what you've got and where you're at.
If you were any closer to the action, you'd probably get your synapses
repolarized.
I have asked Bill what your relationship is with him. Words such as
"uninformed" were mentioned. Bill does describe himself as "striving to
preserve the letter X in the entertainment alphabet", "the last outlaw of
X", and of course, "The Bear." Nothing about being a blowhard.
Opinionated? Yes, as he's earned to right to be such (with regard to time
and accomplishments in the industry).
Regards,
JRDL
Rob A.
I can see that this is becoming a battle between those "In the Industry"
and those "Outside the Industry." You know, it was nice to get opinions
or extra info from people in the industry that would add to our
appreciation, but it's getting tiresome to listen to industry people
tell the consumers how they don't know anything and should keep quiet.
Doesn't exactly inspire me to go out and buy the product.
Rob A.
Mike South
On Mon, 05 May 97 14:23:13, "Rob A." <r...@anon.com> wrote:
>JRDL wrote:
>>
>> You're absolutely correct, Mike. Well, almost . . . .
>>
>> . . . . you don't use derrogatory terms to describe Bill Margold . . ..
>> you don't do personal attacks . . . . you don't use Brandy's method of
>> disagreeing with someone . . . . you carve, Luke carves, Brandy carves,
>> Bill carves . . . .
>>
>> INSTEAD, you use transparent criticisms followed by impotent compliments
>> or worse yet, apologies/explainations to describe, attack, disagree, and
>> carve. You like being the "fly in the ointment" don't you? I'm surethat
>> you're doing the best you can with what you've got and where you're at.
>> If you were any closer to the action, you'd probably get your synapses
>> repolarized.
All I know is everytime I have asked Bill for assistance in any way he
has given it to me graciously, he has allowed me to shoot stills at
all his functions he has put me on stage, and as far as I know we have
never had a disagreeable word, we have been at odds on a couple of
occasions but that doesn't mean I like him any less. Hell when I call
him another opinionated blowhard he has certainly knows me well enough
to know that I put myself in that same category..Anyway this is
getting way beyond interesting, and personally I have no desire to be
part of the LA porn crowd...I'll stay right here and do what I do
until such time as I want to do something else....
>>
>> I have asked Bill what your relationship is with him. Words such as
>> "uninformed" were mentioned.
I suppose you know Bill and from what I know of him if all he said was
that I was uninformed and such, he probably likes me...He uses much
different terminology for those in his disdain...
Mike South
Producer/Director
"Mike South's Southern Belles"
"Mike South's Travels"
Winner 1997 AVN Best Amateur Video
JRDL
On 05-May-97, Rob A. wrote:
>I can see that this is becoming a battle between those "In the Industry"
>and those "Outside the Industry." You know, it was nice to get opinions
>or extra info from people in the industry that would add to our
>appreciation, but it's getting tiresome to listen to industry people
>tell the consumers how they don't know anything and should keep quiet.
>Doesn't exactly inspire me to go out and buy the product.
These "heated" exchanges that you're seeing here in r.a.m.e. are all in
reference to Luke Ford's prolific, erroneous postings/excerpts from his
"book" he "hopes" to have "released" soon. If you backtrack posts/message
threads for the past few weeks, you will see that this is not a battle
between those "inside" and "outside" of the industry. Most of the
negative comments have some from those who were or are in the business.
Certainly, remarks about Luke's work isn't telling consumers of X at large
they don't know anything and to keep quiet.
These exchanges aren't anything different that you would find about other
entertainment news, gossip, etc. If you're tired of reading, then post
some questions to the experts that contribute to this group. Besides,
there should be something else that inspires you to go out and buy/rent
adult entertainment other than this newsgroup.
Regards,
JRDL
Jeff Knapp
So then, on 7 May 97, JRDL said...
> On 05-May-97, Rob A. wrote:
>
> >I can see that this is becoming a battle between those "In the Industry"
> >and those "Outside the Industry." You know, it was nice to get opinions
> >or extra info from people in the industry that would add to our
> >appreciation, but it's getting tiresome to listen to industry people
> >tell the consumers how they don't know anything and should keep quiet.
>
> Certainly, remarks about Luke's work isn't telling consumers of X at large
> they don't know anything and to keep quiet.
No, we'll leave that to Bill Margold: "Don't judge what you don't know.
And don't pretend to be a fan unless you are willing to pay for the right
to bray."
> Besides, there should be something else that inspires you to go out and
> buy/rent adult entertainment other than this newsgroup.
Like what?
Seriously, it sounds like a flip question, but what should inspire us to
buy/rent current porn?
I think most of us agree that 95% of what's produced today is crap. So
what *should* inspire me?
I mean, of course, my loins are the initial thing that gets me out of the
house and to the store, but where from there? Upon whom do I rely?
I use this newsgroup, like I used alt.sex.movies before it. I relied on
the reviews, I enjoyed the discussions. and I often sought out performers
that I wouldn't have sought out after reading about them on r.a.m.e.
-- Sacked
Jeff Knapp
dire...@gti.net
Today I...........No, that wasn't me.
Rob A.
JRDL wrote:
>
> On 05-May-97, Rob A. wrote:
>
> >I can see that this is becoming a battle between those "In the Industry"
> >and those "Outside the Industry." You know, it was nice to get opinions
> >or extra info from people in the industry that would add to our
> >appreciation, but it's getting tiresome to listen to industry people
> >tell the consumers how they don't know anything and should keep quiet.
>
>
> These "heated" exchanges that you're seeing here in r.a.m.e. are all in
> reference to Luke Ford's prolific, erroneous postings/excerpts from his
> "book" he "hopes" to have "released" soon. If you backtrack posts/message
> threads for the past few weeks, you will see that this is not a battle
> between those "inside" and "outside" of the industry. Most of the
> negative comments have some from those who were or are in the business.
> they don't know anything and to keep quiet.
Actually, some of these heated exchanges have been about Luke Ford's
book. Others have been between Brandy and various people about the
industry. And still others have centered on Bill Margold and his
condemnation of those who don't belong to F.O.X.E. All in all, they
speak to an attitude which seems to be prevelant among 4 or 5 of the
industry people on the group.
>
> These exchanges aren't anything different that you would find about other
> entertainment news, gossip, etc. If you're tired of reading, then post
> some questions to the experts that contribute to this group.
I think you missed the point. The "experts"--and I assume you mean the
4 or 5 industry people I mentioned here--are posting some rather
sanctimonius things here. Why would I want to prompt this further by
asking them questions? There are a couple of industry folks here who
aren't antagnostic and a few non-industry folks that are extremely
knowledgable without being superior--I think I would approach them if I
had any questions.
>Besides,
> there should be something else that inspires you to go out and buy/rent
> adult entertainment other than this newsgroup.
There certainly is. And there are certain posts here which inspire me
*not* to buy specific products. I was pointing out the poor business
practice of trashing your potential customers.
Rob A.
LUZDEDOS
Mr JRDL:
Why don't you have the guts to use your real name?
Generally speaking, with exceptions, someone who doesn't use their real
name does not deserve credibility... When a person walks around with a
name tag, he generally behaves better because how he acts reflects on
him... There is much disgusting behavior in big cities because people are
anonymous...
I generally behave better, for instance, when I wear a yarmulka, because
it identifies me...
I use my real name. I place it with my posts... I suffer, my reputation
suffers, when I make mistakes... As I should...
So why don't you mention all these mistakes I've made... You've said this
many times as have Brandy, BIll and others... Why don't you back up your
statements?
There's no need to get personal, though it doesn't bother me if you want
to do so... Just point out my mistakes... It will diminish my credibility
as it should. Make you look good. And it would be the right thing to do.
I sincerely wish you, Bill, Brandy, Rob A., etc.. all the best.. We may
all look back on these little skirmishes with a laugh one day.
Be well. :) :)
LUZDEDOS
Jeff Knapp is a blessing. He is consistently direct yet avoids ad hominem
attacks... He's accurate, to the point, and spends an enormous amount of
time to make this group possible along rame's FAQ.
Thank you.
Along with Roger T Pipe, Peter Van Aarle, Mike South, he keeps things ona
higher plane. And we benefit from that.