FRIDAY ESTIMATES: 'Borat' still #1. Is good, yes?
Who Moved My Ice?
1 BORAT $9,925,000 $48,767,000
2 SANTA CLAUSE 3: $5,485,000
3 FLUSHED AWAY $5,395,000
4 STRANGER THAN FICTION $4,855,000
5 SAW III $2,235,000
6 THE RETURN $1,805,000
7 BABEL $1,725,000
8 THE PRESTIGE $1,630,000
9 THE DEPARTED $1,570,000
10 GOOD YEAR $1,235,000
What can you say about Borat that hasn't already been said? Though the
per-screen average dipped a bit because of the big increase in available
screens, it's still holding over extremely well from last weekend, and it's
mid-week numbers were excellent as well.
No surprise that 'Fiction' could only muster up 4th place. Farrell's
audience astutely realized that the film was not going to be Old School 2.
I had to look up THE RETURN on Google. Had no idea what it was. Then I
remember seeing the online banners for the movie, but that's about it.
Haven't seen a commercial or a movie poster or any publicity or promotion
for the film, and what online marketing I did see just came up within the
past week. Looks like Rogue pictures planned to dump the thing.
Flags of Our Fathers is now out of the Top 10 after just three weeks. And
I'm curious to know if anyone thinks that the way the movie was filmed (in
what appears to be a very bleak pallete of colors) turned potential audience
members off. I thought the film was very hard to look at from a stylistic
point of view.
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Icebreaker
"This isn't a good time, Lt. Drebin. I'm in mourning."
"I'm sorry. We would've come sooner but your husband wasn't dead yet."
Derek Janssen
> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-11-10&p=.htm
>
> 1 BORAT $9,925,000 $48,767,000
(Fanboys this week, or just a second wave of mainstream headline-junkies
who wanted a peek? Only next week, and the REAL movies opening, will tell.)
> 2 SANTA CLAUSE 3: $5,485,000
> 3 FLUSHED AWAY $5,395,000
> 4 STRANGER THAN FICTION $4,855,000
(The new movie this week, folks. Round of applause.)
> 5 SAW III $2,235,000
> 6 THE RETURN $1,805,000
(The other new title this week, folks. Let's hear it for our amazing #1
winner.)
> 7 BABEL $1,725,000
> 8 THE PRESTIGE $1,630,000
> 9 THE DEPARTED $1,570,000
> 10 GOOD YEAR $1,235,000
>
> What can you say about Borat that hasn't already been said?
(Well, let's see: How about "He isn't any danged funny"--THAT sure
hasn't been said yet!) :)
> No surprise that 'Fiction' could only muster up 4th place. Farrell's
> audience astutely realized that the film was not going to be Old School 2.
Bad news also for Jim Carrey's "Number 23", which reportedly relied on
the same "My life's being written" idea, and had critics clucking
suspiciously over the comparison.
> I had to look up THE RETURN on Google. Had no idea what it was. Then I
> remember seeing the online banners for the movie, but that's about it.
> Haven't seen a commercial or a movie poster or any publicity or promotion
> for the film, and what online marketing I did see just came up within the
> past week. Looks like Rogue pictures planned to dump the thing.
Rogue Pictures usually does.
Derek Janssen
eja...@comcast.net
Manco
> Who Moved My Ice? wrote:
>
>> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-11-10&p=.htm
>>
>> 1 BORAT $9,925,000 $48,767,000
>
> (Fanboys this week, or just a second wave of mainstream
> headline-junkies who wanted a peek? Only next week, and the REAL
> movies opening, will tell.)
What's really fantastic about this is that Sacha Baron Cohen is a proud
Zionist Jew and has the #1 movie in America. That must really rile up the
Islamo-Nutboys.
Who Moved My Ice?
news:g9idnZFBHbBptcvY...@comcast.com...
> Who Moved My Ice? wrote:
>
>> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-11-10&p=.htm
>>
>> 1 BORAT $9,925,000 $48,767,000
>
> (Fanboys this week, or just a second wave of mainstream headline-junkies
> who wanted a peek? Only next week, and the REAL movies opening, will
> tell.)
What is it with you and "real movies"? Passion of the Christ wasn't a "real
movie", and neither were the audiences who saw that, according to you. And
now Borat is not a "real movie"? I guess the box office is raking in
invisible money.
In any event, I expect BORAT will take a slight hit next week, as Happy Feet
and Casino Royale opens up.
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Icebreaker
"Yakshemash! In US of A, democracy is very different from Kazakhstan. In
America, woman *can* vote, but horse - *cannot*!"
Derek Janssen
>>
>>>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-11-10&p=.htm
>>>
>>>1 BORAT $9,925,000 $48,767,000
>>
>>(Fanboys this week, or just a second wave of mainstream headline-junkies
>>who wanted a peek? Only next week, and the REAL movies opening, will
>>tell.)
>
> What is it with you and "real movies"? Passion of the Christ wasn't a "real
> movie", and neither were the audiences who saw that, according to you. And
> now Borat is not a "real movie"? I guess the box office is raking in
> invisible money.
Hmm, a movie that had rabid right-wing fans assaulting the Internet to
push box-office number-crunches in our face to prove their own point,
followed by hysterical/clueless tie-in local-news stories about "The
little controversial movie that took Hollywood by surprise", back when
nothing else was opening for three weeks, until the big commercial film
that season finally came out....
And the movie that had rabid ANTI-right-wing fans assaulting the
Internet to push box-office number-crunches in our face to prove their
own point, followed by hysterical/clueless tie-in local-news stories
about "The little controversial movie that took Hollywood by surprise",
back when nothing else was opening for three weeks until the big
commercial film that season finally came out....
Mm, nope, can't see any comparisons there--Which one had the
schoolbuses, again? :)
> In any event, I expect BORAT will take a slight hit next week, as Happy Feet
> and Casino Royale opens up.
(Yyyyeah. SLIGHT. Although, not likely from "Happy Feet".)
Derek Janssen (although "Feet" should get a little boost from IMAX, but
that reportedly didn't help "Ant Bully" last summer)
eja...@comcast.net
Nick Macpherson
So you want to be on the record as saying that Happy Feet is only going
to do about as well as Ant Bully? I'll take that bet. It's going to
thump the box office next weekend like the Democrats thumped the
Republicans on Tuesday. A bigger box office quesion is how well Casino
Royale is going to do. Sure it's gotten rave reviews but I'll have to
see it before I'm convinced those rave reviews aren't from critics
rolling over the same way they do when some aging rocker releases a CD
that's almost listenable.
Nick Macpherson
Who Moved My Ice? wrote:
> I'm curious to know if anyone thinks that the way the movie was filmed (in
> what appears to be a very bleak pallete of colors) turned potential audience
> members off. I thought the film was very hard to look at from a stylistic
> point of view.
>
focus, it's hard to see what the point of it was (half SPR greatest
generation sentimentilization, half Eastwoodian meditation on
masculinity) and a general apathy towards the war genre--there's enough
war on the news--sank it at the box office. And demographically, that
"older audience" is a really hard one to get to the theater. And one
other thing--if you're going to promote a film as if it's the best film
of the year, it'd better damn near be the best film of the year and
Flags of ur Fathers isn't.
moviePig
Hmm. You sweep PASSION's schoolbuses aside as though they weren't
bedrock-germane to its box-office validity. That's quite a broom...
Meanwhile, note that BORAT's Internet supporters' "own point" was a
*defensive* one... i.e., against charges of, "This movie is NOT funny!
Now get up off the floor..."
> > In any event, I expect BORAT will take a slight hit next week, as Happy Feet
> > and Casino Royale opens up.
>
> (Yyyyeah. SLIGHT. Although, not likely from "Happy Feet".)
>
> (although "Feet" should get a little boost from IMAX, but
> that reportedly didn't help "Ant Bully" last summer)
ANT BULLY had even less than the minimal soul and wit needed to float
an Imax-3D show. I expect to be tapping a happier tune about the BABE
director's new movie.
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>>
> So you want to be on the record as saying that Happy Feet is only going
> to do about as well as Ant Bully? I'll take that bet.
It's a mess, it's got a director with precious little
studio-family-animated pedigree (unless you count "Babe: Pig in the
City"), has Robin Williams, and an odd tendency to push faux cool-Latino
gags down our throats.
Factor in clueless audiences who don't KNOW it takes three years for a
third-party studio to make an animated film, and whine about how studios
"ripped off that documentary we all saw, just for a buck".
As *badly* as "Ant Bully"?--Well, nothing could be. Let's just say the
proverbial Sam Goldwyn "People lining up not to see it" is shorter than
the line for "Ant".
Plus, never underestimate the first cuddly-winter/Xmas movie of
November...Technically, that would be Santa Clause 3, but that got a bit
upstaged, and didn't have the same pre-hype that SC2 had.
And Warner pre-hype has, ahem, NOT been a problem so far for "Happy
Feet". Oh, lordy has it ever. -_-
> It's going to
> thump the box office next weekend like the Democrats thumped the
> Republicans on Tuesday.
(What, people finally getting their long-awaited licks in, just because
they wanted to, and thumping their fists in anticipation?...That's a
good comparison.) :)
> A bigger box office quesion is how well Casino
> Royale is going to do. Sure it's gotten rave reviews but I'll have to
> see it before I'm convinced those rave reviews aren't from critics
> rolling over the same way they do when some aging rocker releases a CD
> that's almost listenable.
Can't rave about it until I verify the high-90%'s on RT, but have to
say, the trailer looks pretty darn cool. And that's coming from a
Pierce Brosnan defender.
(Plus, there's the factor of "What else are the big studio guns this
Christmas?--Will Ferrell? Rocky VI? Charlotte's Web??")
Derek Janssen (..."Night at the Museum"??)
eja...@comcast.net
moviePig
My bad. Miller didn't direct BABE, of course. Interestingly, Chris
Noonan (who did) is, like Miller, making his first real noise since
then, with next month's MISS POTTER....
Who Moved My Ice?
news:1163281963.4...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> A bigger box office quesion is how well Casino
> Royale is going to do. Sure it's gotten rave reviews but I'll have to
> see it before I'm convinced those rave reviews aren't from critics
> rolling over the same way they do when some aging rocker releases a CD
> that's almost listenable.
Precisely. I think SONY is going to find that there's a larger disconnect
between what the critics like, and what the critics believe the audience
should like, than they imagined, and the box office for Casino Royale will
not be this pie-in-the-sky opening I've been reading about (with some fans
claiming the film will open to $50 million opening weekend, and take in $200
domestically/$500 million internationally).
Derek Janssen
No, that was pre-emptively going after Pashies' Plan B fallback of
"Yeah, but what all the non-schoolbus tickets that *weren't* pre-sold,
from regular people going to see it in blue states the second
week!...Those really PROVE they liked it, doesn't it?"
The better to emphasize the main comparison about how we responsible
employed suburban adults never lose those teenage urges to:
A) do something just because all the really cool guys at school were
talking about it, and
B) go see a movie we didn't know about but were told by someone
important not to go see.
(...Oh, and I suppose if all YOUR friends went to go see "Death of a
President", you would too?) :)
>>(Yyyyeah. SLIGHT. Although, not likely from "Happy Feet".)
>>
>>(although "Feet" should get a little boost from IMAX, but
>>that reportedly didn't help "Ant Bully" last summer)
>
>
> ANT BULLY had even less than the minimal soul and wit needed to float
> an Imax-3D show. I expect to be tapping a happier tune about the BABE
> director's new movie.
(Corrected post noted--
FWIW, it's already been pointed out that although Miller didn't direct
"the" Babe, he did direct the strange and
somewhat-too-darned-odd-to-be-uplifting sequel.)
Derek Janssen
eja...@comcast.net
moviePig
(Sure. That's sort-of what got me to SAW 3... and, a lifetime earlier,
TITANIC... and, another lifetime before that, THE SOUND OF MUSIC...
Else, how may one scoff?)
Nick Macpherson
Music in the 60s and decades later recommending Saw 3 is a decline of
sorts, or maybe an improvement.
Derek Janssen
I'll give you Saw3 for being headline-buzzworded, but Titanic and SoM
would "possibly have a devastating effect on next year's election, with
its amazing surprise influence at this week's box office"?...Okayyy.
Derek Janssen (admit it--We all have friends and family who glue
themselves to CNN in times of crisis, and we try to help them find
personal security)
eja...@comcast.net
Tom Zielinski
>> Royale is going to do. Sure it's gotten rave reviews but I'll have to
>> see it before I'm convinced those rave reviews aren't from critics
>> rolling over the same way they do when some aging rocker releases a CD
>> that's almost listenable.
>
> Precisely. I think SONY is going to find that there's a larger disconnect
> between what the critics like, and what the critics believe the audience
> should like, than they imagined, and the box office for Casino Royale will
> not be this pie-in-the-sky opening I've been reading about (with some fans
> claiming the film will open to $50 million opening weekend, and take in
> $200 domestically/$500 million internationally).
Then there are those who have no interest in box office performance as long
as it is a good film and makes at least enough to guarantee another will be
made.
I realize that might be important only to those who like movies and
appreciate cinema as art.
moviePig
(I'm referring to seeing SOUND OF MUSIC back when it was the public's
fav-o-rite thing, rather than later when I grew older and Wise-r.
Today, in fact, it's on my list for hi-def...)
Invid Fan
<manco_...@net2blah.com> wrote:
A Jew in a film? You're right, they'd never stand for that!
--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total shit. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS
Bill Anderson
> news:1163281963.4...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> A bigger box office quesion is how well Casino
>> Royale is going to do. Sure it's gotten rave reviews but I'll have to
>> see it before I'm convinced those rave reviews aren't from critics
>> rolling over the same way they do when some aging rocker releases a CD
>> that's almost listenable.
>
> Precisely. I think SONY is going to find that there's a larger disconnect
> between what the critics like, and what the critics believe the audience
> should like, than they imagined, and the box office for Casino Royale will
> not be this pie-in-the-sky opening I've been reading about (with some fans
> claiming the film will open to $50 million opening weekend, and take in $200
> domestically/$500 million internationally).
>
I wonder if there are others around here besides me who haven't seen a
theatrical release of a James Bond film since the embarrassing "Diamonds
are Forever," but who are salivating at the chance to stand in line for
"Casino Royale?" I'm convinced I'll see a real James Bond like the one
in the books -- like Connery in From Russia With Love. No more of the
cutesy clever glib one-liners and the stunts so impossible they're funny
-- this time Bond is a human being, the villain is believable, and the
plot isn't ripped off from Pinky and the Brain. All that plus sex and
violence and the James Bond theme pulsating on the soundtrack. I'm
ready to contribute my $9 to the opening weekend boxoffice.
--
Bill Anderson
I am the Mighty Favog
trotsky
Like Rich?
Pariah
> (Fanboys this week, or just a second wave of mainstream
> headline-junkies who wanted a peek? Only next week, and the REAL
> movies opening, will tell.)
Isn't that what you said last week?
Sorry that whatever cartoon you were rooting for didn't win out over the
evil Borat. Try to move on... you might find that adults not fixated on
cartoons are less likely to be pedophiles.
Pariah
$3e7...@newsfe04.lga:
> 10 GOOD YEAR $1,235,000
This is the biggest news item on the list. Ridley Scott and Russell Crowe
team up again, and the result is the biggest turkey since "Gigli"?
RichA
Lets not give Bond it's due yet. After all, we have nothing to go on
except a negative, a female "M." Apart from that, wait and see. With
print going down the economic drain, there is NO shortage of critics
for the studios to bribe off today, so IMO, advanced "buzz" means
nothing.
moviePig
Fwiw, I still can't and don't believe A GOOD YEAR is as bad as its
press (...as indeed GIGLI wasn't).
moviePig
Who Moved My Ice? wrote:
>
> 1 BORAT $9,925,000 $48,767,000
> 2 SANTA CLAUSE 3: $5,485,000
> 3 FLUSHED AWAY $5,395,000
> 4 STRANGER THAN FICTION $4,855,000
> 5 SAW III $2,235,000
> 6 THE RETURN $1,805,000
> 7 BABEL $1,725,000
> 8 THE PRESTIGE $1,630,000
> 9 THE DEPARTED $1,570,000
> 10 GOOD YEAR $1,235,000
>
> What can you say about Borat that hasn't already been said? Though the
> per-screen average dipped a bit because of the big increase in available
> screens, it's still holding over extremely well from last weekend, and it's
> mid-week numbers were excellent as well.
>
> No surprise that 'Fiction' could only muster up 4th place. Farrell's
> audience astutely realized that the film was not going to be Old School 2.
Btw, it appears that BORAT's per-screen is nearly double FICTION's, its
nearest competitor. Whatever else, its doing a credible job of
looking, walking, and smelling like a word-of-mouth hit...
Pidge
I think it's going to do really well, too (Happy Feet).
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Tom Pelphrey *sniff*
"My hand's been in that box for hours, it's dying!"
Pidge
$581/theatre on Friday. OUCH.
Pidge
deering24
> Derek Janssen (admit it--We all have friends and family who glue
> themselves to CNN in times of crisis, and we try to help them find
> personal security)
You mean "glue themselves to CNN and/or Fox News...," right?
C.
**
(Heh...)
Tom Zielinski
"RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163300733....@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Lets not give Bond it's due yet. After all, we have nothing to go on
> except a negative, a female "M." Apart from that, wait and see. With
> print going down the economic drain, there is NO shortage of critics
> for the studios to bribe off today, so IMO, advanced "buzz" means
> nothing.
Nothing to go on? Have you seen the trailers? Read any reviews? (By some
big-name, non-"bribed" UK critics) Heard the score?
And while Bernard Lee was just about perfect in the role, Judi Dench has
been terrific. A female M is not a negative. Point of fact, the real head
of MI6 has been a woman. Not sure if that is still the case. (It is a
secret spy agency after all.)
sirb...@hotmail.com
Manco ha escrito:
> Derek Janssen wrote:
> > Who Moved My Ice? wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-11-10&p=.htm
> >>
> >> 1 BORAT $9,925,000 $48,767,000
> >
> > (Fanboys this week, or just a second wave of mainstream
> > headline-junkies who wanted a peek? Only next week, and the REAL
> > movies opening, will tell.)
>
> What's really fantastic about this is that Sacha Baron Cohen is a proud
> Zionist Jew and has the #1 movie in America. That must really rile up the
> Islamo-Nutboys.
really? then why are its viewers saying it's about having right wing
bigots poked the fun out of? did you see his rodeo scene? isn't cohen
the kind of left-wing jew gaza's so fond of? i liked your twisting
recoil, thou.
kyrgy...@rambler.ru
A: Then visit http://www.militarycorruption.com/metzger3.htm
Uzbeki's terrorist ogres snatched Major Jill Metzger from USAF
airbase in Kyrgyzstan, it's Kazakhstan's best friend country,
it's nice, and blamed all it on Kazakh Borat.
http://frankwarner.typepad.com/free_frank_warner/2006/10/everyone_wants_.html
Jill Metzger went out for shopping. Unfortunately for her, she met
Bigfoot and he abducted her. Or so she claimed.
USAF OSI agents organized a search&rescue operation to find her, but,
alas, with no success. She was found by herself a few days later.
When reporters tried to ask her questions about her ordeal, her
response was:
"I came to my senses in a cave. I could hear a stream nearby and
there were rays of light coming down on me from a hole in the ceiling.
Borat - that's how I called the creature afterwards - was sitting
opposite me. He was baring his teeth, as if he was infuriated. I
realized later that it was just his smile. The hairy animal came up to
me and started sniffing my clothes. Then he roared and tore my clothes
to pieces. My heart was about to explode with horror, but he continued
sniffing me until his nose stopped near my groin. He roared again and
threw himself over me."
When Jill woke up the next morning, she realized that she had become
the prisoner and the wife of the hairy creature.
PS:
It's BS Uzbek propaganda!!! Making Kazakhs look plain stupid!!! Oh,
pain! pain!!!
It's outrageous that Uzbeki terrorists are blaming abduction on your
father, Bilak, stick up for yor dad!!!
Please, read what Uzbek non-human ogres did to Jill Metzger in Bishkek,
Kyrgyz capital!!!
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1337002006
A FEMALE US Air Force officer who went missing last week near the
capital of Kyrgyzstan has turned up alive, claiming she had been
kidnapped.
USAF major Jill Metzger story. It's nice!
Jill Metzger went out for shopping. Unfortunately for her, she met
Bigfoot and he abducted her. Or so she claimed.
USAF OSI agents organized a search&rescue operation to find her, but,
alas, with no success. She was found by herself a few days later.
When reporters tried to ask her questions about her ordeal, her
response was:
"I came to my senses in a cave. I could hear a stream nearby and there
were rays of light coming down on me from a hole in the ceiling. Borat
- that's how I called the creature afterwards - was sitting opposite
me. He was baring his teeth, as if he was infuriated. I realized later
that it was just his smile. The hairy animal came up to me and started
sniffing my clothes. Then he roared and tore my clothes to pieces. My
heart was about to explode with horror, but he continued sniffing me
until his nose stopped near my groin. He roared again and threw himself
over me."
When Jill woke up the next morning, she realized that she had become
the prisoner and the wife of the hairy creature. When Borat was going
out, he would cover the entrance to the cave with a big stone, leaving
no way for Jill to escape. Borat would always bring something to eat -
berries, nuts, mushrooms, eggs or raw meat. The terrible sex with the
animal became a daily torture for Jill. However, the 'beauty and the
beast' started developing a relationship. Borat showed interest in the
girl's CD player. Jill had only one CD with her - Michael Jackson's
best hits.
One day, before leaving, Borat covered the entrance to the cave with
the stone as usual, but did not notice a small gap that the stone left.
It took a great effort for Jill to sneak outside, but when she finally
succeeded to get out of the cave, she started running without making a
stop. When she saw people in the Kant town, she finally realized that
she was free.
"Her parents took Jill to our hospital, - Dr. Dolittle said. - The girl
was mental; all I could hear from her was that she had been married to
a Bigfoot for a year. She never managed to get used to home conditions.
She was afraid of going out even during the day, she was terribly
afraid of the dark. In addition, Jill could not eat normal food," the
doctor said. One day Jill started recovering very fast both mentally
and physically. She started eating, talking and even laughing. When
doctors told her that she was getting better, Jill laughed and said
that she had never been sick. She added that "he" knew where she was
and that "he" would come to rescue her. Doctors considered such
behavior the new stage of Jill's illness and decided to isolate her in
a special room. However, the USAF major disappeared from her ward at
night in the middle of November. Someone very strong pulled steel bars
out of the brick wall and signed the wall with autograph "Here was
Borat."
Borat for president!!!
trotsky
I see your point: you have wet dreams about the next movie coming out
where people get mutilated, but Bond fans shouldn't get excited about a
new direction in the Bond franchise.
trotsky
> Pariah wrote:
>
>>"Who Moved My Ice?" <icebr...@CindySheehan.com> wrote in news:XAp5h.54
>>$3e7...@newsfe04.lga:
>>
>>
>>>10 GOOD YEAR $1,235,000
>>
>>This is the biggest news item on the list. Ridley Scott and Russell Crowe
>>team up again, and the result is the biggest turkey since "Gigli"?
>
>
> Fwiw, I still can't and don't believe A GOOD YEAR is as bad as its
> press (...as indeed GIGLI wasn't).
I'll bet it was pre-screened for critics, too.
trotsky
> Who Moved My Ice? wrote:
>
>>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2006-11-10&p=.htm
>>
>>1 BORAT $9,925,000 $48,767,000
>>2 SANTA CLAUSE 3: $5,485,000
>>3 FLUSHED AWAY $5,395,000
>>4 STRANGER THAN FICTION $4,855,000
>>5 SAW III $2,235,000
>>6 THE RETURN $1,805,000
>>7 BABEL $1,725,000
>>8 THE PRESTIGE $1,630,000
>>9 THE DEPARTED $1,570,000
>>10 GOOD YEAR $1,235,000
>>
>>What can you say about Borat that hasn't already been said? Though the
>>per-screen average dipped a bit because of the big increase in available
>>screens, it's still holding over extremely well from last weekend, and it's
>>mid-week numbers were excellent as well.
>>
>>No surprise that 'Fiction' could only muster up 4th place. Farrell's
>>audience astutely realized that the film was not going to be Old School 2.
>
>
> Btw, it appears that BORAT's per-screen is nearly double FICTION's, its
> nearest competitor. Whatever else, its doing a credible job of
> looking, walking, and smelling like a word-of-mouth hit...
How is it word of mouth when almost every single review has been positive?
trotsky
Judi Dench is one of the best actors in the world. Just when Rich
couldn't sound like more of a clown, he pulls this bit of misogyny out
of his arse.
Nick Macpherson
moviePig wrote:
> Pariah wrote:
> > "Who Moved My Ice?" <icebr...@CindySheehan.com> wrote in news:XAp5h.54
> > $3e7...@newsfe04.lga:
> >
> > > 10 GOOD YEAR $1,235,000
> >
> > This is the biggest news item on the list. Ridley Scott and Russell Crowe
> > team up again, and the result is the biggest turkey since "Gigli"?
>
> Fwiw, I still can't and don't believe A GOOD YEAR is as bad as its
> press (...as indeed GIGLI wasn't).
>
as its press but if it's only half as bad as its trailer (with Crowe
looking like he's doing a bad imitation of Alec Guiness in an Ealing
comedy) then it's not something I'd even rent on DVD. I haven't any
American reviews (aside from Harkness's link to his own and his
Canadian) but I was struck by some of the long knives revisionism
against Scott in the British press. He's on his way to becoming "the
guy who did Bladerunner" and not much else.
Alric Knebel
I stopped looking for Bond films after LIVE AND LET DIE. I saw one
other, years later, but I went just because I was with some friends and
it was a spur of the moment thing. I can't remember the name, but it
was the one with Duran Duran singing the theme.
And, yes, I'm one of those salivating at the prospect of this latest.
And because I couldn't wait, I went ahead last week and read the novel
CASINO ROYALE. It was one of the two I had never read. I enjoyed it,
and now the I'm more familiar with it, I can see from the trailer that a
lot of it was retained. I have no idea what the stuff in the
construction site was about. None of that was in there, but I see what
the car crash is all about.
Five more days. Five more days.
--
______________________________________________
Alric Knebel
http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.html
http://www.ironeyefortress.com
Alric Knebel
> "Nick Macpherson" <NMacp...@AOL.com> wrote in message
> news:1163281963.4...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>>A bigger box office quesion is how well Casino
>>Royale is going to do. Sure it's gotten rave reviews but I'll have to
>>see it before I'm convinced those rave reviews aren't from critics
>>rolling over the same way they do when some aging rocker releases a CD
>>that's almost listenable.
>
>
> Precisely. I think SONY is going to find that there's a larger disconnect
> between what the critics like, and what the critics believe the audience
> should like, than they imagined, and the box office for Casino Royale will
> not be this pie-in-the-sky opening I've been reading about (with some fans
> claiming the film will open to $50 million opening weekend, and take in $200
> domestically/$500 million internationally).
Critics aren't always disconnected. BATMAN BEGINS is an example.
CASINO ROYALE is the BATMAN BEGINS of the Bond franchise.
Alric Knebel
Man, I killfiled him. He NEVER had anything to say that didn't have
inserted into it somewhere that sort of shit, and it was just so
unpleasant. I'm surprised when I see someone quote him that he's still
here. And it also reminds me how lucky I am that I'm not immediately
privy to it. I see his response, but it's always in the post of someone
who's putting him in his proper place. So his effect is blunted.
moviePig
(Oops, you nodded off at the keyboard again...)
moviePig
MATCHSTICK MEN shows 82% RottenTomatoes critics -- justifiably imo.
And those revisionist critics will have a hard time diminishing ALIEN,
in my book. Meanwhile, it's not that either Scott's or Crowe's movies
are always wonderful... but rather that they're seldom bad. So, to the
extent that their contributions are complementary (a considerable
extent imo), it'd be a longshot for GOOD YEAR to be left totally lame.
(Admittedly, I've consumed no reviews or trailers...)
Harkness
Well, there's Alien.
Scott's an astonishingly overrated director -- people forget how many
stinkers he has in his filmography -- Hannibal, GI Jane, White Squall,
1492, Legend -- Great craft, but erratic taste. Kingdom of Heaven's
exceedingly underrated, though, if you look at the long cut.
John Harkness
moviePig
At some point, word-of-mouth takes over... as it should. I.e., the
critics *might* have accounted for the good first week... but a bad
word-of-mouth wouldn't have let the distributors then triple the
screens and still pack the houses.
Nick Macpherson
column along with Alen and Bladerunner, though with T & L the strengths
are more in the writing and the acting than the directing (especially
after you hear Monte Hellman slagging Scott in his DVD commentary to
Two-Lane Blacktop).
josephm...@netzero.com
Alric Knebel wrote:
> I stopped looking for Bond films after LIVE AND LET DIE. I saw one
> other, years later, but I went just because I was with some friends and
> it was a spur of the moment thing. I can't remember the name, but it
> was the one with Duran Duran singing the theme.
A View to a Kill.
Joe Ramirez
trotsky
I'll take Tony over Ridley any day of the week.
trotsky
So word of mouth is relevant when a movie is pre-screened for critics
but not relevant when the movie isn't?
moviePig
Word-of-mouth is relevant in the second week... even if the movie was
slaughtered, dressed, and served en croute for critics...
kyrgy...@rambler.ru
www.borat2008.com
Borat for President!!!
Oil Mines of King Saddam
Episode I - Bush of the World
Atlantis, the end of 2000 B.B. (Before Bush), throne-room of Capitol
Congress Palace, Newly erected King Geoshua the Busher II from Busher
dynasty is proudly sitting on the throne, observing kneeled people from
Administration of the Whitestone House
- Oh, greatest and thoughtful of the mortals, thunderbolt for
unfaithful, defender of miserable, praise to you and to Floridian
governors that weighted, weighted and calculated for you! For
unaccountable shall be the holes voting for you! Long live for
descendants of Busher dynasty!
- Let God praises all you too, my affiliates! Shall your daughters
blossom and give birth to millions everlastingly, Green!
- We all are at your disposal, direct us! What should we do with fallen
Albertuno Huronian and his lord Clintinimon Lewinsky? Styx them? Or
send everlasting hemorrhoid with sodomizing effect?
- Let them live, my power is too great to crack peanuts with their
thoughts' heretical, wash his stains off, give him shepherd clothes
and pastoral pipe and exile after all. Let him sing his Monikinean
song. This will teach the profligate to admit truth in asceticism.
- Yet his wife in possession of power, wishes to take votes in supreme
suburb, what should we do with her?
- Let her possess, rational and logical her deeds, tempers she
heretical thoughts. As for that Monikinean hetera, give her to our
public criers for exposure, order them to hunt her down forever...
- But sir, - whispered his privy councilor, Joshua Tennetean, - she is
devoted messenger of ours, she done the blow job alright? We only
offered her discount to live the rest of life in diamonds?
- You idiot, - silently Busher replied - for protocols I said indeed,
give her a pension, medical insurance and order media to pump a Green!
- Yess, sir, but will it better to force her meet a realm of shadows?
- Idiot again, what plebs will think of it? Don't bother, councilor,
laugh will meet her words, no one would give a peace of shit for true.
For if she spells our names in public, arrange a climax or send a death
because of fatness...you know, you always get so many clues - Busher
loudly appealed to audience:
- So, dear chosen ones, besides my brother Busher Floridian, we need to
praise the deeds of father, Busher the First, many years to him and our
country! Let Atlantis rules the World! A pillar of the humankind,
colossus of the Earth and Themis across barbarians. We are to shudder
the world in our pious intentions; bring our will to human kind;
proclaim Thirteen Apostles' Declaration to savage brothers of the
World! For all time, Green!
- Green, green, green! In Green We Trust!
Episode II The Last Supper
Oval cabinet of the Whitestone Palace: Busher I and Busher II, Chief
Vizier - Dick Cheneyan, Privy Councilor - Joshua Tennetean, Military
Unit - Don Ramshteinfeld, IQ Advisor - Columbina Right
- My dear friends, we well performed "corps de ballet" - dully
smiled Busher the Second, didn't we my gorgeous father? - his face
at words was outlined by savage cowboy smile at most
- Sonny, you looking far beyond your mind!
- Indeed my dear daddy, in contrary to you I'll try to reach that
sacred mines Saddam the worst creature owns
- Be careful sonny, I had that time all bets jack-potted, I knew all
politicians by name, who is responsible for China, who is at throne in
Hindu country, at least I even know my name in Aramaic (Note:
BuSharon). Do you indeed feel so confidently about seeds you plan to
sow?
- Don't worry father, for what I need to know such data? I have my
Columbina Right, here?
- Yess Sir! - replied Columbina
- Yassir? I thought he was somewhere in China from lessons taught some
days ago?
- No sir, I am just at your disposal now...Dick also here to cover mind
by facts & data, Don waiting for red button order, while Privy
Councilor hides behind that secret door...that Billy used for
relaxations...
- So, father, you see I've got all guns reloaded now, I also tend not
complicate, we will divide the earth an axes: the evil, good, and
"none to lose", subdue the first ones till knockout, promise a
money to the middles, and cock a snook to latter ones...it's simple,
father, like peace of cake to do...
- Oh! o dear! I am too old to play rodeo with foreign policy so much.
Remember just one thing at last -whatever you do you must a nephrite
supply give to us, provide the light, and green forever, for all time,
Green! In Green We Trust!
- I do! I do! I do! Green Light for Deeds of Great Atlants!!! (chorus)
- So, what should we start from things to do?
- I have some cryptographic writings - replied Privy Councilor softly
- it seems we came to last resort, achieved level of game over,
civilization on the verge. To keep our culture from removal we need to
seize a power over minds. Set rules and edicts, norms of justice,
spread Atlant values, faith across the world.
- Without nephrite it's problematic - Busher the Second grunted
loudly - I guess we need to be think-tankers to solve a problem from
one short...
- Two shots - mysteriously whispered Joshua and added loudly -
Thank God we now alone indeed. Our mighty enemy is lying down while
remnants of the Red Empire still weak and suffer from the cleptocracy.
But there is another danger, our beauty Europe's rising. Though they
are named friends of ours, we can't relax, should closely watch them,
unless they take all nephrite mines.
- By the way, another point is Celestial empire
- What is Celestial, Columbina? Who is their leader?
- It's China, sir, and Hu is their new leader.
- That's what I want to know.
- That's what I'm telling you.
- That's what I'm asking you. Who is the new leader of China?
- Yes.
- I mean the fellow's name.
- Sonny, stop junk our brains, spell H for Human, U for Universe and
you'll receive a name of China's lord!
- I see my dad, but Human Universe is not a name applied to a persons,
it's rather name of great Atlant Empire!
- Don't mind, gentlemen, Right, please continue.
- China is huge, big country with people over billion at the nests. A
dangerous and great opponent looking at the space...
- Then who is Mr. Putineus, Columbina?
- The head of big northern country that recently collapsed for a while;
he is smart, with keen on a cryptography, and willing to restore
Empire...
- Oh, God, shall we again hide in the bunkers from missiles at every
Russian solder's sneeze? Damn them, I see I hurried up with
Clintinimon's exile we should have finished him. He left us three
biggest challenges so far...modest Europe, Celestial Empire pretending
for a Human Universe and unsettled scores with oldest rival...
- Four, sir, - Joshua replied - we have another one. Europe as rich
and glorious as Atlantis, though weaker because of lost ambitions to
rule the Earth. Past bloody centuries were good enough. China just
starts driving. The dead empire too weak to point it seriously. None of
them is dangerous for us at current time. The fourth damn element are
religious rivals that possess a horde of nephrite mines and trying
overtake control.
- Suppress, destroy and capture!!!
- Don't hurry up, my dear son, we have a League of Nation as a guide.
War and Peace affairs ruler. The world's last resort of nations. We
can't oppose those Coffee shoppers.
some commercial for a moment...
end of part one
to be continued
heybulldog entertainment project (c) 2004
deering24
>
> Nothing to go on? Have you seen the trailers? Read any reviews? (By some
> big-name, non-"bribed" UK critics) Heard the score?
>
THE NEW YORKER reviewed it today:
http://www.newyorker.com/critics/cinema/articles/061120crci_cinema
C.
**
Who Moved My Ice?
news:12lebd9...@corp.supernews.com...
> Critics aren't always disconnected. BATMAN BEGINS is an example. CASINO
> ROYALE is the BATMAN BEGINS of the Bond franchise.
I'd like to think that, but I'm hesitant or, at the very least, cautiously
optimistic. But there are some startling differences between the two series.
Batman Begins had more to atone for than Casino Royale does, as Batman &
Robin was a flop while Die Another Day was a hit. So the impetus for change
wasn't quite as intense for the Bond series as it was for Batman.
Furthermore, Bale was a huge favorite to play Bruce Wayne/Batman, whereas
Craig was a highly controversial choice the minute his name was leaked to
the press months before the casting decision was made. Warner Brothers
stated that they looked at the online fan polls and took that into
consideration when hiring Bale, whereas SONY and EON.....did not. Maybe CR
will be all the richer for it; who knows?
In the new issue of Starlog Magazine, Michael G. Wilson states that they
were writing "BOND22" (although I think the writer meant Bond21) with
Brosnan in mind, and did so for an entire year. Wilson claims creative
decimation was the reason for the change in direction, but I believe that
committment didn't begin until after negotiations with Brosnan's agent fell
through.
-------------------------------------
Icebreaker
"Yakshemash! In US of A, democracy is very different from Kazakhstan. In
America, woman *can* vote, but horse - *cannot*!"
Derek Janssen
>
> I'd like to think that, but I'm hesitant or, at the very least, cautiously
> optimistic. But there are some startling differences between the two series.
> Batman Begins had more to atone for than Casino Royale does, as Batman &
> Robin was a flop while Die Another Day was a hit. So the impetus for change
> wasn't quite as intense for the Bond series as it was for Batman.
Leaving that "They tortured Pierce Brosnan!" idiot aside (whatever
happened to him, anyway?), that's not to say DaD *wasn't* its own
"Batman & Robin", at least in the "edge-of-the-cliff mistake" sense--
Made money, yes, and Brosnan was good, and the plot zipped along as well
as the others, but, um....Halle Berry, anyone? >_<
(Fans didn't exactly warm to the "M kidnapped" plot for "World is Not
Enough", although that one was serviceable enough for the Pierce canon,
and "Day" was already too far in pre-production by the time complaints
started appearing.)
...They could've just dumped Craig into the same Lexus plugs as if
nothing had happened, but they seem to WANT to go back to Connery
formula, to create a new movie to go with the change in franchise.
That's "Begins" enough for jazz, in my neighborhood. :)
Derek Janssen
eja...@comcast.net
Who Moved My Ice?
news:wbydnfdKBPOsIMXY...@comcast.com...
> Leaving that "They tortured Pierce Brosnan!" idiot aside (whatever
> happened to him, anyway?), that's not to say DaD *wasn't* its own "Batman
> & Robin", at least in the "edge-of-the-cliff mistake" sense--
Undoubtedly, it was time to scale the films back somewhat. My complaints
about the Brosnan films were: too much CGI stuntwork (i.e. pretitle sequence
of Goldeneye, with 007 trying to catch a plane in freefall....the CGI
wave-surfing in DAD...the CGI-plane disintegrating in DAD....the CGI-cliff
diving sequence in DAD, etc., etc...), not fully utilizing the locations
(Bond goes to Iceland and all we get is a look at the glaciers; at least in
Thunderball or Moonraker or For Your Eyes Only or From Russia With Love or
The Living Daylights you see Bond strolling through the marketplaces and the
kasbahs, or riding in a taxi in downtown Rio; with Brosnan's films, you feel
like he wasn't truly in Iceland because he never was. And could not South
Korea have been featured a bit more prominently than just the DMZ?), and
some atrociously bad puns. But none of that was Brosnan's fault, and while I
think it was time for him to go (while still on top), the reasons given for
his "firing" don't sit right with me.
When Moore's films got too fantastical, Cubby kept Moore but scaled down
the. I guess Barbara and Michael didn't want to let Brosnan go on too long
like Cubby did with Roger. Good call, but I'm not sure Craig's that much of
an improvement in terms of age. He looks a bit weary and older for a man who
is only 38. No telling how well he'll age with the series.
> ...They could've just dumped Craig into the same Lexus plugs as if nothing
> had happened, but they seem to WANT to go back to Connery formula, to
> create a new movie to go with the change in franchise.
We'll see. I'm not convinced, though. They were still thinking of bringing
Brosnan back even after DAD, and it wasn't until after the numbers didn't
work for them that they decided upon this new direction. If their decision
to go "real" was dictated by Brosnan's salary demands, then the decision to
go back to "fantastical" could just as easily happen if the receipts are too
low for Casino Royale.
RichA
She is HORRIBLE in that role. Completely unsuited to it. Just because
someone can act does NOT mean they can do every role well. "Come back
to me James." PUKE!
trotsky
You seem to be confusing the script with the actor. Puke.
Alric Knebel
>
>
> We'll see. I'm not convinced, though. They were still thinking of bringing
> Brosnan back even after DAD, and it wasn't until after the numbers didn't
> work for them that they decided upon this new direction. If their decision
> to go "real" was dictated by Brosnan's salary demands, then the decision to
> go back to "fantastical" could just as easily happen if the receipts are too
> low for Casino Royale.
I bet the receipts will be very good. The film will attract not only
Bond fans, but action fans, and people who just like good movies. I
think the appeal is going to go beyond the fanboys.
Wait for it to come out on dvd or better yet on the tables at the swap meet
kyrgy...@rambler.ru
www.borat2008.com
Q: Do you not know who is USAF Princess Jill Metzger?
A: Then visit http://www.militarycorruption.com/metzger3.htm to find
out more about that snotty cunt! :-)
Uzbeki's terrorist ogres snatched Major Jill Metzger from USAF
airbase in Kyrgyzstan, it's Kazakhstan's best friend country,
it's nice, and blamed all it on Kazakh Borat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Metzger
Jill Metzger went out for shopping. Unfortunately for her, she met
Bigfoot and he abducted her. Or so she claimed.
USAF OSI agents organized a search&rescue operation to find her, but,
alas, with no success. She was found by herself a few days later.
When reporters tried to ask her questions about her ordeal, her
response was:
"I came to my senses in a cave. I could hear a stream nearby and
there were rays of light coming down on me from a hole in the ceiling.
Borat - that's how I called the creature afterwards - was sitting
opposite me. He was baring his teeth, as if he was infuriated. I
realized later that it was just his smile. The hairy animal came up to
me and started sniffing my clothes. Then he roared and tore my clothes
to pieces. My heart was about to explode with horror, but he continued
sniffing me until his nose stopped near my groin. He roared again and
threw himself over me."
When Jill woke up the next morning, she realized that she had become
the prisoner and the wife of the hairy creature.
PS:
It's BS Uzbek propaganda!!! Making Kazakhs look plain stupid!!! Oh,
pain! pain!!!
It's outrageous that Uzbeki terrorists are blaming abduction on your
father, Bilak, stick up for yor dad!!!
Please, read what Uzbek non-human ogres did to Jill Metzger in Bishkek,
Kyrgyz capital!!!
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1337002006
A FEMALE US Air Force officer who went missing last week near the
capital of Kyrgyzstan has turned up alive, claiming she had been
kidnapped.
Throw Romanian Gypsies down the well!!!
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23374170-details/Borat%20film%20'tricked'%20poor%20village%20actors/article.do
USAF major Jill Metzger story. It's nice!
Jill Metzger went out for shopping. Unfortunately for her, she met
Bigfoot and he abducted her. Or so she claimed.
USAF OSI agents organized a search&rescue operation to find her, but,
alas, with no success. She was found by herself a few days later.
When reporters tried to ask her questions about her ordeal, her
response was:
"I came to my senses in a cave. I could hear a stream nearby and there
were rays of light coming down on me from a hole in the ceiling. Borat
- that's how I called the creature afterwards - was sitting opposite
me. He was baring his teeth, as if he was infuriated. I realized later
that it was just his smile. The hairy animal came up to me and started
sniffing my clothes. Then he roared and tore my clothes to pieces. My
heart was about to explode with horror, but he continued sniffing me
until his nose stopped near my groin. He roared again and threw himself
over me."
When Jill woke up the next morning, she realized that she had become
the prisoner and the wife of the hairy creature. When Borat was going
out, he would cover the entrance to the cave with a big stone, leaving
no way for Jill to escape. Borat would always bring something to eat -
berries, nuts, mushrooms, eggs or raw meat. The terrible sex with the
animal became a daily torture for Jill. However, the 'beauty and the
beast' started developing a relationship. Borat showed interest in the
girl's CD player. Jill had only one CD with her - Michael Jackson's
best hits.
One day, before leaving, Borat covered the entrance to the cave with
the stone as usual, but did not notice a small gap that the stone left.
It took a great effort for Jill to sneak outside, but when she finally
succeeded to get out of the cave, she started running without making a
stop. When she saw people in the Kant town, she finally realized that
she was free.
"Her parents took Jill to our hospital, - Dr. Dolittle said. - The girl
was mental; all I could hear from her was that she had been married to
a Bigfoot for a year. She never managed to get used to home conditions.
She was afraid of going out even during the day, she was terribly
afraid of the dark. In addition, Jill could not eat normal food," the
doctor said. One day Jill started recovering very fast both mentally
and physically. She started eating, talking and even laughing. When
doctors told her that she was getting better, Jill laughed and said
that she had never been sick. She added that "he" knew where she was
and that "he" would come to rescue her. Doctors considered such
behavior the new stage of Jill's illness and decided to isolate her in
a special room. However, the USAF major disappeared from her ward at
night in the middle of November. Someone very strong pulled steel bars
out of the brick wall and signed the wall with autograph "Here was
Borat."