Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Adele's "Skyfall"

38 views
Skip to first unread message

nick

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 8:39:55 AM10/5/12
to
Not bad for about two minutes, but then there's still two minutes
fifty seconds to go. It sounds like something Bill Murray would have
sang on SNL. "Let the sky fall/when it crumb-alls."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKoqNJtMTQ

Obveeus

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 10:14:32 AM10/5/12
to

"nick" <leftbehindb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6611bc67-4703-44f4...@z8g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
I don't much like this song, though I suppose it does harken back to some of
the boring Bond themes of the past.

Side note: Adele's 'Skyfall' currently sits at #1 on the iTunes download
chart, so a bunch of people must like it...or at least a bunch of people
must still be trying to keep their Adele 'catalog' complete.


nick

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 10:22:47 AM10/5/12
to
On Oct 5, 10:14 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> "nick" <leftbehindbythetalk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
It's going to be huge.

When was the last James Bond hit song, something casual radio
listeners would be familiar with? Duran Duran? There must have been
something since then "A View to a Kill". Maybe that A-ha song did
alright.

Obveeus

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 10:27:10 AM10/5/12
to

"nick" <leftbehindb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 5, 10:14 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
>> "nick" <leftbehindbythetalk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:6611bc67-4703-44f4...@z8g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Not bad for about two minutes, but then there's still two minutes
>> > fifty seconds to go. It sounds like something Bill Murray would have
>> > sang on SNL. "Let the sky fall/when it crumb-alls."
>>
>> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKoqNJtMTQ
>>
>> I don't much like this song, though I suppose it does harken back to some
>> of
>> the boring Bond themes of the past.
>>
>> Side note: Adele's 'Skyfall' currently sits at #1 on the iTunes download
>> chart, so a bunch of people must like it...or at least a bunch of people
>> must still be trying to keep their Adele 'catalog' complete.
>
>It's going to be huge.

I don't understand Adele's popularity. her voice/songs sound old.

>When was the last James Bond hit song, something casual radio
>listeners would be familiar with? Duran Duran? There must have been
>something since then "A View to a Kill". Maybe that A-ha song did
>alright.

Madonna's DIE ANOTHER DAY.


moviePig

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 10:28:00 AM10/5/12
to
(Cribbed...)

Let the skyfoowww

Let it crumboowww

--

- - - - - - - -
YOUR taste at work...
http://www.moviepig.com

Obveeus

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 10:48:46 AM10/5/12
to
NOTE: rec.arts.movies.past-films added

"moviePig" <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>On Oct 5, 8:39 am, nick <leftbehindbythetalk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Not bad for about two minutes, but then there's still two minutes
>> fifty seconds to go. It sounds like something Bill Murray would have
>> sang on SNL. "Let the sky fall/when it crumb-alls."
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKoqNJtMTQ
>
>(Cribbed...)
>
> Let the skyfoowww
>
> Let it crumboowww

Luckily, she has a 77 piece orchestra to back her up.
Cite:
http://www.billboard.com/news/adele-debuts-james-bond-theme-listen-to-1007972982.story

Billboard.com's list of the 10 best Bond themes ever:
http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/top-10-james-bond-theme-songs-ever-1007973172.story?

10. Diamonds Are Forever by Shirley Bassey
9. You Only Live twice by Nancy Sinatra
8. All Time High by Rita Coolidge
7. Thunderball by Tom Jones
6. Die Another Day by Madonna
5. Golgfinger by Shirley Bassie
4. For Your Eyes Only by Sheena Easton
3. Live And Let Die by Paul McCartney & Wings
2. Nobody Does It Better by Carly Simon
1. A View To A Kill by Duran Duran


nick

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 10:58:42 AM10/5/12
to
On Oct 5, 10:48 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> NOTE:  rec.arts.movies.past-films added
>
> "moviePig" <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 5, 8:39 am, nick <leftbehindbythetalk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Not bad for about two minutes, but then there's still two minutes
> >> fifty seconds to go. It sounds like something Bill Murray would have
> >> sang on SNL. "Let the sky fall/when it crumb-alls."
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HKoqNJtMTQ
>
> >(Cribbed...)
>
> >   Let the skyfoowww
>
> >   Let it crumboowww
>
> Luckily, she has a 77 piece orchestra to back her up.
> Cite:http://www.billboard.com/news/adele-debuts-james-bond-theme-listen-to...
>
> Billboard.com's list of the 10 best Bond themes ever:http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/top-10-james-bond-theme-son...
>
> 10.  Diamonds Are Forever by Shirley Bassey
> 9.  You Only Live twice by Nancy Sinatra
> 8.  All Time High by Rita Coolidge
> 7.  Thunderball by Tom Jones
> 6.  Die Another Day by Madonna
> 5.  Golgfinger by Shirley Bassie
> 4.  For Your Eyes Only by Sheena Easton
> 3.  Live And Let Die by Paul McCartney & Wings
> 2.  Nobody Does It Better by Carly Simon
> 1.  A View To A Kill by Duran Duran

Duran Duran at number one with "The Man with the Golden Gun" nowhere
on the list? Hard to argue against "Live and Let Die" and "Nobody
Does it Better" though. I'd take Madonna off the list and put Nancy
Sinatra higher.

Obveeus

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 11:24:53 AM10/5/12
to
Billboard magazine is THE AUTHORITY on music charts. As such, their list is
based upon actual sales/airplay rather than just the 'personal opinion' that
most of these compiled lists are based upon.


Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted
Message has been deleted

trotsky

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 2:41:22 PM10/5/12
to
I would put Shirley Bassey at number one and number too. I'm not sure
I've even ever heard the Rita Coolidge song.

Tom

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 7:26:37 PM10/5/12
to
Yeah, she was the best...

I'd love to hear this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bond_Collection

Tom

RichA

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 10:29:33 PM10/5/12
to
On Oct 5, 8:39 am, nick <leftbehindbythetalk...@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a plague when it comes to music and films today. The one
problem is where music used in movies doesn't match them, or is
horribly over-used IN them. The second issue is pre-show. Music
played or music in advertisements often do not reflect the movie's
theme. You'll have horrible light pop music playing...prior to an
action movie or scifi. Mood killer.

nick

unread,
Oct 5, 2012, 11:06:38 PM10/5/12
to
You probably have. I'm familiar with the song but never associate it
with Bond, just crappy AM soft rock.

Qwerty

unread,
Oct 6, 2012, 1:42:48 AM10/6/12
to
What, no love for Sheryl Crowe?

IMO, the best secret agent music in a movie soundtrack was "The
Incredibles." The music is totally overlooked, but still excellent.

And Carly Simon whips Duran Duran's ass.
Message has been deleted

trotsky

unread,
Oct 6, 2012, 9:24:28 AM10/6/12
to
It's garnering some bids on ebay for the CD. If it was there on vinyl I
would bid for it. If I can land a copy I'll let you know.

trotsky

unread,
Oct 6, 2012, 9:26:26 AM10/6/12
to
On 10/6/12 12:42 AM, Qwerty wrote:

> What, no love for Sheryl Crowe?


No--ditto for Sheryl Crow as well.


> IMO, the best secret agent music in a movie soundtrack was "The
> Incredibles." The music is totally overlooked, but still excellent.
>
> And Carly Simon whips Duran Duran's ass.


I'll take Garbage over any of them, but that's just personal preference.


anim8rFSK

unread,
Oct 7, 2012, 10:15:13 PM10/7/12
to
In article <k4ms0f$9he$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:
A best list with Die Another Day on it? Really? I had to take that out
of my Bond theme iTunes playlist because it's just not listenable to.

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

Obveeus

unread,
Oct 8, 2012, 7:46:39 AM10/8/12
to
The Billboard list is compiled with actual sales data for the single and
airplay data for US radio stations. You might not like what Billboard says,
but it isn't so much 'opinion' as 'fact' based upon chart performance data.
...and if you don't like it, you are probably really going to dislike it
when the Adele song becomes the #1 Bond song of all-time over the next
month. One major drawback to Billboard charts is in trying to compare songs
like this from different eras. The methodology for compiling the Billboard
charts is constantly changing to reflect current consumer habits. As a
result, song sales now overly effect chart position in comparison to actual
airplay...and I'll leave the argument for which of those items is a better
measure of 'popularity' to another time.


nick

unread,
Oct 8, 2012, 12:17:39 PM10/8/12
to
On Oct 8, 7:46 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> "anim8rFSK" <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <k4ms0f$9h...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Billboard.com's list of the 10 best Bond themes ever:
> >>http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/top-10-james-bond-theme-son...
> >> 007973172.story?
>
> >> 10.  Diamonds Are Forever by Shirley Bassey
> >> 9.  You Only Live twice by Nancy Sinatra
> >> 8.  All Time High by Rita Coolidge
> >> 7.  Thunderball by Tom Jones
> >> 6.  Die Another Day by Madonna
> >> 5.  Golgfinger by Shirley Bassie
> >> 4.  For Your Eyes Only by Sheena Easton
> >> 3.  Live And Let Die by Paul McCartney & Wings
> >> 2.  Nobody Does It Better by Carly Simon
> >> 1.  A View To A Kill by Duran Duran
>
> > A best list with Die Another Day on it?  Really?  I had to take that out
> > of my Bond theme iTunes playlist because it's just not listenable to.
>
> The Billboard list is compiled with actual sales data for the single and
> airplay data for US radio stations.  You might not like what Billboard says,
> but it isn't so much 'opinion' as 'fact' based upon chart performance data.
> ...and if you don't like it, you are probably really going to dislike it
> when the Adele song becomes the #1 Bond song of all-time over the next
> month.  One major drawback to Billboard charts is in trying to compare songs
> like this from different eras.  The methodology for compiling the Billboard
> charts is constantly changing to reflect current consumer habits.  As a
> result, song sales now overly effect chart position in comparison to actual
> airplay...and I'll leave the argument for which of those items is a better
> measure of 'popularity' to another time.

Setting sales aside, I'd hazard a guess and go with "Live and Let Die"
as the most "popular" James Bond song, what with the big G & R cover
and all. But since Adele is invincible and unstoppable, "Skyfall"
will end up being the biggest seller, the most beloved, the most
popular, etc.

Obveeus

unread,
Oct 11, 2012, 7:53:12 AM10/11/12
to

"nick" <leftbehindb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Setting sales aside, I'd hazard a guess and go with "Live and Let Die"
>as the most "popular" James Bond song, what with the big G & R cover
>and all. But since Adele is invincible and unstoppable, "Skyfall"
>will end up being the biggest seller, the most beloved, the most
>popular, etc.

UPDATE: Adele's 'Skyfall' theme song to the latest James Bond film debuted
at #8 on the Billboard Hot100 chart this week. It was only the third
highest debut on the chart this week, behind new entries by One Direction
and Taylor Swift. This is only the second time in the 50+ year history of
the chart that 3 songs have all debuted in the Top10 at the same time.
Expect 'Skyfall' to move up on the chart in the coming weeks.


nick

unread,
Oct 11, 2012, 8:26:24 AM10/11/12
to
On Oct 11, 7:53 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> "nick" <leftbehindbythetalk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Setting sales aside, I'd hazard a guess and go with "Live and Let Die"
> >as the most "popular" James Bond song, what with the big G & R cover
> >and all.  But since Adele is invincible and unstoppable, "Skyfall"
> >will end up being the biggest seller, the most beloved, the most
> >popular, etc.
>
> UPDATE:  Adele's 'Skyfall' theme song to the latest James Bond film debuted
> at #8 on the Billboard Hot100 chart this week.  It was only the third
> highest debut on the chart this week, behind new entries by One Direction
> and Taylor Swift.  This is only the second time in the 50+ year history of
> the chart that 3 songs have all debuted in the Top10 at the same time.

What a time to be alive in the history of music.

But seriously, I've tried to figure out how sales are calculated post-
physical format but it still makes my head spin.

Obveeus

unread,
Oct 11, 2012, 8:42:54 AM10/11/12
to

"nick" <leftbehindb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Oct 11, 7:53 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
>> "nick" <leftbehindbythetalk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Setting sales aside, I'd hazard a guess and go with "Live and Let Die"
>> >as the most "popular" James Bond song, what with the big G & R cover
>> >and all. But since Adele is invincible and unstoppable, "Skyfall"
>> >will end up being the biggest seller, the most beloved, the most
>> >popular, etc.
>>
>> UPDATE: Adele's 'Skyfall' theme song to the latest James Bond film
>> debuted
>> at #8 on the Billboard Hot100 chart this week. It was only the third
>> highest debut on the chart this week, behind new entries by One Direction
>> and Taylor Swift. This is only the second time in the 50+ year history of
>> the chart that 3 songs have all debuted in the Top10 at the same time.
>
>What a time to be alive in the history of music.

The Billboard charts really cannot be compared between decades and such
since the format is constantly changing. In the old days, radio stations
would lie about what they were really playing...or they would be taking
money under the table to play certain songs...or both the A and B side of a
single would be counted as sales for the songs. At various times, the
charts were based upon songs that didn't have 'singles', while at other
times a song had to have a single available to even be eligible on the
chart. Additionally, there are always weird 'traditions' that affect the
chart, such as in the 1980s when pretty much all country music stations
would remove a song from their official playlist (even though they continued
to play it in heavy rotation) after it reached #1...so songs would never
spend more than 1 week on the chart (spread the bragging rights wealth, I
guess).

>But seriously, I've tried to figure out how sales are calculated post-
>physical format but it still makes my head spin.

Sales are now exactly counted by paying customers through such sources as
iTunes downloads and Amazon downloads. The tricky stuff now is actually
counting 'airplay', which now includes stuff like on-demand internet
streaming from sources like AOL MUSIC.


nick

unread,
Oct 11, 2012, 8:52:09 AM10/11/12
to
Yeah, I have Spotify and it has "Skyfall" so I can play it as much as
I like but I'm not paying for it. YouTube is where most young people
are getting their music from and that's not being thrown into the
calculations, is it?

Obveeus

unread,
Oct 11, 2012, 9:27:51 AM10/11/12
to

"nick" <leftbehindb...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Yeah, I have Spotify and it has "Skyfall" so I can play it as much as
>I like but I'm not paying for it. YouTube is where most young people
>are getting their music from

I like Vevo, but they do push a lot of their content through the YouTube
interface.

>and that's not being thrown into the calculations, is it?

Billboard has a whole chart for Youtube:
http://www.billboard.com/charts/youtube#/charts/youtube

I assume it counts as some small component of 'airplay', but I am not sure
if that includes a Hot100 airplay component. Youtube is a rough place for
setting up an accurate count, though, since so many people offer up
unapproved versions of the music...attempting to do their own lyric videos
or photo compilations or karaoke or whatever. If Youtube is being counted ,
I'm sure it is only the 'official' stuff that gets included.


0 new messages