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Subject: Re: Atlas Shrugged II clip
From: calvin <cri...@windstream.net>
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On Oct 7, 5:52=A0pm, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> "calvin" <cri...@windstream.net> wrote:
> >On Oct 7, 4:47 pm, reilloc <reil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 10/7/2012 2:31 PM, calvin wrote:
> >> > Here is a clip from the movie, which starts Friday.
> >> > Admirers of the book will enjoy this, and it makes
> >> > the movie look promising.
> >> > 'Rearden and the Wet Nurse'
> >> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7d3iVaGfEsg
> >> A wet nurse is a woman who breast feeds an infant when its mother won'=
> >> or can't. Aside from the titillating imagery the title's apparently
> >> intended to evoke, perhaps the only way that old men are able to obtai=
> >> arousal, what's the explanation for calling the government agent a "we=
> >> nurse?"
> >Maybe if you weren't so literal you could imagine it.
> >Some of the workers in Rearden's steel mill call
> >the government agent that.
> How could it be meant any more literally than the imagery of suckling at =
> government's teat?
> I guess the moral of the story is that people need to grow up and not bre=
> feed off the government.
What you say could be applied to other things, but in this
story the young man is assigned by the government to
watch the activities in Rearden's steel mills and keep
Rearden informed of current government regulations
and procedures and, by implication, to keep the
government informed of Rearden's activities. He, the
government agent, is doing the nursing, not being nursed.
In this and previous comments you seem eager to think
this story is about 'worthless' people living on the government
dole. But that's not what it's about. It's about government
and corrupt businessmen hamstringing free enterprise and
thus creating a multitude of bad effects; and among those
bad effects the eventual reduction of ordinary people to the
level of starving savages. The book is not about the common
people sucking at the government's teat, but it has a lot to
do with the government and corrupt businesses helping
out each other at the expense of the honest producers,
at every level, and at the peril of the functioning of the
I know the book. People from whom you seem to be
getting your information obviously (to me) don't. The
greatest falsehood about the book, bleated by the liberal
media whenever the subject of the book or its writer
comes up, is that ... but wait ... let me give you Rachel
Maddow's exact words:
"In Ayn Rand's novels she leads her readers to see the very
people in society as heroes, heroes who must be protected from taxes,
from the government, from regulation, from bureaucracy, from anything
that rich people might find restrictive in any way toward them
more rich. The rich are heroes and everybody else is a 'taker', and
more the rich have, the better, the better for everyone."
In this book the very wealthiest people in society are both
the good and the bad, the most able and honest producers
and the most corrupt and incompetent 'crony capitalists',
though that term is not used, as well as the most corrupt
government officials. There is no moral value placed on simply
having money, though there is much moral value placed on
competent production and thus honestly making money.
And this applies as much to people of modest means as to
the most successful industrialists.
I know the book, but believe Rachel if that is what you prefer.