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Obveeus
May 28, 2012, 8:18:51 AM5/28/12
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MEN IN BLACK 3 stays very much in tune with the previous two films in terms
of style/attitude. Anyone that enjoyed the first and second film will enjoy
the third film. Consider it all lighthearted fun, though, as all the
'logic' is done with hand waving and this incarnation offers no new ground
over the previous two films. Some of the previous cast is back, but in
practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
which really is a fault of the writing/directing as there are certainly
plenty of capable actors here that could have stepped up if asked.
In my opinion, the weakest part of this film is that it tries so hard to
replicate the prior two films. While the older film viewer might remember
his own youth culture as being different from today's culture, MEN IN BLACK
members apparently live in an unchanging workplace environment. Ah well,
this film offers a good time in the theater while trying to wait for
PROMETHEUS to arrive. Hopefully that film will offer a little more bite
from its bad guys.
nick
May 28, 2012, 10:29:29 AM5/28/12
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On May 28, 8:18 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> MEN IN BLACK 3 stays very much in tune with the previous two films in terms
> of style/attitude. Anyone that enjoyed the first and second film will enjoy
> the third film. Consider it all lighthearted fun, though, as all the
> 'logic' is done with hand waving and this incarnation offers no new ground
> over the previous two films. Some of the previous cast is back, but in
> practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
Does Alice Eve have much to do in the movie?
> MEN IN BLACK 3 stays very much in tune with the previous two films in terms
> of style/attitude. Anyone that enjoyed the first and second film will enjoy
> the third film. Consider it all lighthearted fun, though, as all the
> 'logic' is done with hand waving and this incarnation offers no new ground
> over the previous two films. Some of the previous cast is back, but in
> practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
>
> In my opinion, the weakest part of this film is that it tries so hard to
> replicate the prior two films. While the older film viewer might remember
> his own youth culture as being different from today's culture, MEN IN BLACK
> members apparently live in an unchanging workplace environment. Ah well,
> this film offers a good time in the theater while trying to wait for
> PROMETHEUS to arrive. Hopefully that film will offer a little more bite
> from its bad guys.
I saw a Coors Light/Prometheus tie-in commercial during yesterday's
> In my opinion, the weakest part of this film is that it tries so hard to
> replicate the prior two films. While the older film viewer might remember
> his own youth culture as being different from today's culture, MEN IN BLACK
> members apparently live in an unchanging workplace environment. Ah well,
> this film offers a good time in the theater while trying to wait for
> PROMETHEUS to arrive. Hopefully that film will offer a little more bite
> from its bad guys.
Coca-Cola 500. Hopefully, Prometheus will have a little more bite
than a can of Coors Light.
moviePig
May 28, 2012, 12:09:45 PM5/28/12
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opposite), the first thing it should do is buy a tie-in to, what,
EXPENDABLES 2?
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Obveeus
May 28, 2012, 5:57:19 PM5/28/12
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"nick" <nickmacp...@AOL.com> wrote:
>On May 28, 8:18 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
>> MEN IN BLACK
>>Some of the previous cast is back, but in
>> practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
>
>Does Alice Eve have much to do in the movie?
No, but she isn't as wasted as Nichole Scherzinger. For whatever reasons,
>> practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
>
>Does Alice Eve have much to do in the movie?
though, the MEN IN BLACK movies have always shied away from being
sexy/sexual. Maybe Jada Pinkett Smith doesn't allow it as even HITCH was
pretty tame in the female interaction department?
>I saw a Coors Light/Prometheus tie-in commercial during yesterday's
>Coca-Cola 500. Hopefully, Prometheus will have a little more bite
>than a can of Coors Light.
that race and didn't see the ad at all. Still, I had to avert my eyes and
ears to avoid the Prometheus trailer that seemed to go on forever before MEN
IN BLACK started.
Bastette
May 29, 2012, 4:52:22 PM5/29/12
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Obveeus wrote:
> replicate the prior two films. While the older film viewer might remember
> his own youth culture as being different from today's culture, MEN IN BLACK
> members apparently live in an unchanging workplace environment.
I'm sorry to hear that. The original MiB is one of my favorites. But I was
> replicate the prior two films. While the older film viewer might remember
> his own youth culture as being different from today's culture, MEN IN BLACK
> members apparently live in an unchanging workplace environment.
disappointed by MiB II, because although it wasn't a bad movie, it was just
so much of the same that I didn't find it funny. Comedy does require some
element of surprise. Even if the specific jokes were different, that movie
just recycled the same kind of humor.
I'd heard that MiB III was a lot better than II, and I've been looking
forward to seeing it. I hope my experience is better than yours!
--
Bastette
"Riveting reading that keeps readers reading."
-- The Midwest Book Review
nick
May 31, 2012, 8:19:22 PM5/31/12
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On May 28, 5:57 pm, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
Eve's character anyway? The psychological question in MiB3 is why is
Tommy Lee Jones' character so mean and taciturn and we're led to
believe it had something to do with something that happened in the
past, some traumatic thing, but then it's never developed and you
think it has something to do with Eve's character O, but she gets
about three minutes of screen time. At the end of MiB3,Jones' K
appears to be happier, or at least aware of current music, but it's
never explained why. It's like a whole big chunk of the movie
happened in the minute or two I nodded off towards the end.
If I had to give an award for the most annoying screen character of
the year so far it's that guy who sees multiple time lines and
realities. He's supposed to be whimsical and loveable but if he'd
gotten killed by aliens, I wouldn't have minded.
> "nick" <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:
> >On May 28, 8:18 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> MEN IN BLACK
> >>Some of the previous cast is back, but in
> >> practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
>
> >Does Alice Eve have much to do in the movie?
>
> No, but she isn't as wasted as Nichole Scherzinger. For whatever reasons,
> though, the MEN IN BLACK movies have always shied away from being
> sexy/sexual. Maybe Jada Pinkett Smith doesn't allow it as even HITCH was
> pretty tame in the female interaction department?
>
So I saw MiB3 today and I'm wondering . . . so what was up with Alice
> >On May 28, 8:18 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> MEN IN BLACK
> >>Some of the previous cast is back, but in
> >> practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
>
> >Does Alice Eve have much to do in the movie?
>
> No, but she isn't as wasted as Nichole Scherzinger. For whatever reasons,
> though, the MEN IN BLACK movies have always shied away from being
> sexy/sexual. Maybe Jada Pinkett Smith doesn't allow it as even HITCH was
> pretty tame in the female interaction department?
>
Eve's character anyway? The psychological question in MiB3 is why is
Tommy Lee Jones' character so mean and taciturn and we're led to
believe it had something to do with something that happened in the
past, some traumatic thing, but then it's never developed and you
think it has something to do with Eve's character O, but she gets
about three minutes of screen time. At the end of MiB3,Jones' K
appears to be happier, or at least aware of current music, but it's
never explained why. It's like a whole big chunk of the movie
happened in the minute or two I nodded off towards the end.
If I had to give an award for the most annoying screen character of
the year so far it's that guy who sees multiple time lines and
realities. He's supposed to be whimsical and loveable but if he'd
gotten killed by aliens, I wouldn't have minded.
nick
May 31, 2012, 8:21:10 PM5/31/12
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spoiler warning but I hadn't or it didn't go through. I don't think
I'm giving too much away though.
Obveeus
May 31, 2012, 10:05:17 PM5/31/12
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Original version Jones now meets future partner and is told about 'living
each day as it comes' (or something like that that future Jones said was the
best way to live with no regrets).
Now Jones 2.0 doesn't make the same mistake, doesn't have to live with the
regret, and also knows that the kid will eventually grow up to be
'somebody'.
Apparently, that was all it took to make him happier...or at least make him
more adaptable to current music trends.
Meanwhile, from a time travel perspective, we are left with agent J
returning to the present and finding his partner, K, of the last 14 years to
be someone he doesn't know (at least not as well). Typical time travel
paradox silliness as J has now spent his 14 years with a K that never
existed...but they had to offer us up the silly line about adapting to new
music for some sort of feel good moment, even though it emphasized the
inherent problems of time travel stories.
nick
Jun 1, 2012, 9:17:14 AM6/1/12
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On May 31, 10:05 pm, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
But it's like they set up this relatively logical idea that makes
sense. K is in love with O and life is good. Boris kills O and K is
fated to a lifetime of sullen loss, hence he acts the way he acts.
But in the new version of reality, O survives, and the movie ends in
the diner with Alice Eve in old age make-up showing up with the
grandkids and one last reprise of the "this coffee tastes like dirt"
joke. That would make sense but they don't do that.
But instead they bring in the little J, even though that plotline
makes no sense on any level (for one thing, why would this information
be withheld from the grownup J? And that's not even getting into how
in the present day it would make J about fifty, with K being about 72,
and they're both still field officers so the MiB organization must
have no upward mobility). It's like with all the plot problems and
working minus a script, everything had to be about Will Smith, even if
the main psychological question of MiB is established early on: why
does K act the way he does?
But I liked the three main performances but as entertainment, when
they went back in time it lost its momentum. The first half hour or
hour or so is pretty good though.
sense. K is in love with O and life is good. Boris kills O and K is
fated to a lifetime of sullen loss, hence he acts the way he acts.
But in the new version of reality, O survives, and the movie ends in
the diner with Alice Eve in old age make-up showing up with the
grandkids and one last reprise of the "this coffee tastes like dirt"
joke. That would make sense but they don't do that.
But instead they bring in the little J, even though that plotline
makes no sense on any level (for one thing, why would this information
be withheld from the grownup J? And that's not even getting into how
in the present day it would make J about fifty, with K being about 72,
and they're both still field officers so the MiB organization must
have no upward mobility). It's like with all the plot problems and
working minus a script, everything had to be about Will Smith, even if
the main psychological question of MiB is established early on: why
does K act the way he does?
But I liked the three main performances but as entertainment, when
they went back in time it lost its momentum. The first half hour or
hour or so is pretty good though.
~consul
Jun 1, 2012, 1:23:47 PM6/1/12
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'tis on this 5/29/2012 1:52 PM, wrote Bastette thus to say:
> Obveeus wrote:
> > replicate the prior two films. While the older film viewer might remember
> > his own youth culture as being different from today's culture, MEN IN BLACK
> > members apparently live in an unchanging workplace environment.
> Obveeus wrote:
> > replicate the prior two films. While the older film viewer might remember
> > his own youth culture as being different from today's culture, MEN IN BLACK
> > members apparently live in an unchanging workplace environment.
> I'd heard that MiB III was a lot better than II, and I've been looking
> forward to seeing it. I hope my experience is better than yours!
I liked it a little bit better than MIB2. I liked actually the visuals more, like how the aliens looked like in the 60's/70's. It was more appropriate to the time.
> forward to seeing it. I hope my experience is better than yours!
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
~consul
Jun 1, 2012, 1:26:32 PM6/1/12
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> about three minutes of screen time. At the end of MiB3,Jones' K
> appears to be happier, or at least aware of current music, but it's
> never explained why. It's like a whole big chunk of the movie
> happened in the minute or two I nodded off towards the end.
I actually had to leave the theater for the last few minutes to take care of an emergency. What happened after Will returns back to the top of the building?
> appears to be happier, or at least aware of current music, but it's
> never explained why. It's like a whole big chunk of the movie
> happened in the minute or two I nodded off towards the end.
Actually, throughout the movie, I was anticipating that K was so quiet because he didn't want to interfere with the future relationship he would have with J and mess up the timeline correction. But I had to leave before i could see if that panned out.
Laninna
Jun 2, 2012, 7:52:26 AM6/2/12
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On May 31, 5:19 pm, nick <leftbehindbythetalk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 5:57 pm, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:> "nick" <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:
> So I saw MiB3 today and I'm wondering . . . so what was up with Alice
> Eve's character anyway? The psychological question in MiB3 is why is
> Tommy Lee Jones' character so mean and taciturn and we're led to
> believe it had something to do with something that happened in the
> past, some traumatic thing, but then it's never developed and you
> think it has something to do with Eve's character O, but she gets
> about three minutes of screen time. At the end of MiB3,Jones' K
> appears to be happier, or at least aware of current music, but it's
> never explained why. It's like a whole big chunk of the movie
> happened in the minute or two I nodded off towards the end.
SPOILER
> On May 28, 5:57 pm, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:> "nick" <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:
> So I saw MiB3 today and I'm wondering . . . so what was up with Alice
> Eve's character anyway? The psychological question in MiB3 is why is
> Tommy Lee Jones' character so mean and taciturn and we're led to
> believe it had something to do with something that happened in the
> past, some traumatic thing, but then it's never developed and you
> think it has something to do with Eve's character O, but she gets
> about three minutes of screen time. At the end of MiB3,Jones' K
> appears to be happier, or at least aware of current music, but it's
> never explained why. It's like a whole big chunk of the movie
> happened in the minute or two I nodded off towards the end.
SPOILER
SPOILER
SPOILER
Because he erased a little boy's memory of his father.
In the end, the truth (and conscience) revealed (relieved).
RichA
Jun 2, 2012, 11:06:53 AM6/2/12
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On May 28, 8:18 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> MEN IN BLACK 3 stays very much in tune with the previous two films in terms
> of style/attitude. Anyone that enjoyed the first and second film will enjoy
> the third film. Consider it all lighthearted fun, though, as all the
> 'logic' is done with hand waving and this incarnation offers no new ground
> over the previous two films. Some of the previous cast is back, but in
> practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
> which really is a fault of the writing/directing as there are certainly
> plenty of capable actors here that could have stepped up if asked.
>
Does Smith's egotism remain intact? Did MIB 3 do to MIB what
> of style/attitude. Anyone that enjoyed the first and second film will enjoy
> the third film. Consider it all lighthearted fun, though, as all the
> 'logic' is done with hand waving and this incarnation offers no new ground
> over the previous two films. Some of the previous cast is back, but in
> practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
> which really is a fault of the writing/directing as there are certainly
> plenty of capable actors here that could have stepped up if asked.
>
Ghostbusters 2 did to Ghostbusters?
P.S. I hated MIB and I never saw number 2.
nick
Jun 2, 2012, 7:25:11 PM6/2/12
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On Jun 2, 11:06 am, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 28, 8:18 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > MEN IN BLACK 3 stays very much in tune with the previous two films in terms
> > of style/attitude. Anyone that enjoyed the first and second film will enjoy
> > the third film. Consider it all lighthearted fun, though, as all the
> > 'logic' is done with hand waving and this incarnation offers no new ground
> > over the previous two films. Some of the previous cast is back, but in
> > practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
> > which really is a fault of the writing/directing as there are certainly
> > plenty of capable actors here that could have stepped up if asked.
>
> Does Smith's egotism remain intact?
His egotism remains intact but he's pretty good in MiB3 even though
> On May 28, 8:18 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > MEN IN BLACK 3 stays very much in tune with the previous two films in terms
> > of style/attitude. Anyone that enjoyed the first and second film will enjoy
> > the third film. Consider it all lighthearted fun, though, as all the
> > 'logic' is done with hand waving and this incarnation offers no new ground
> > over the previous two films. Some of the previous cast is back, but in
> > practical terms, this film is carried by Will Smith from start to finish,
> > which really is a fault of the writing/directing as there are certainly
> > plenty of capable actors here that could have stepped up if asked.
>
> Does Smith's egotism remain intact?
he's starting to look a bit old to be playing the smart-ass young
guy.
nick
Jun 2, 2012, 7:26:43 PM6/2/12
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could be told about the circumstances of his father's death, since it
was heroic and relevant to his son's career. It doesn't need to be a
buried dark secret.
Mr. Hole the Magnificent
Jun 6, 2012, 12:33:24 AM6/6/12
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nick
Jun 6, 2012, 8:11:53 AM6/6/12
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On Jun 6, 12:33 am, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
The close-ups of Smith in MiB3 weren't flattering.
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