Re Gershwin or Porter?
darr...@aol.com
darr...@aol.com says...
> Marcello Penso <m.p...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.170c71d14...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
> > In article <ea3caee5.02032...@posting.google.com>,
> > darr...@aol.com says...
> > > Marcello Penso <m.p...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.17033b0e6...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
> > > > In article <ea3caee5.02031...@posting.google.com>,
> > > Bottom line: You can YENTA from now until doomsday,
> > > and it shall never change historical facts & figures: European Jews
> > > (not Italian Christians, not Chinese Buddhists, etc.) are the founding
> > > fathers of all the Hollywood studios. >
> > Not all of them, only some, and it's not big deal anyway. If I were to
> > judge the studios and their founders on the basis of their products, it
> > would be mostly a waste of effort, since a lot of films are just plain
> > garbage (especially recent ones; the older ones (1920s-1940s) at least
> > had class and taste, for the most part).>>
> Marcello, you simply don't know when to quit, eh!? What part of
> "European Jews are the founding fathers of all the major Hollywood
> studios" did you not comprehend? What part of "Every movie first can
> be traced back to the Jewish people" did you not comprehend!? The mere
> fact that you are unwilling to concede to this undeniable fact, proves
> to me that you are insanely jealous of the Jewish people, or sincerely
> clueless to the Jewish-created Hollywood. Now read it and weep: MGM
> (Louis B. Mayer - also created the idea to award an actor with an
> Oscar, Samuel Goldwyn), UNIVERSAL (Irving Thalberg, Carl Laemmle),
> PARAMOUNT/RKO (David O. Selznick, Adolph Zucker), WARNER BROS. (Jack
> Warner), 20TH CENTURY FOX FILM CORP (William Fox, Jacob Loeb),
> COLUMBIA (Harry Cohn). Marcello, here's a little hint: When the "some"
> movie studios comprises all of the movie studios, the "some" then
> becomes the "majority." ehehe DOH! -D, NYC "This legendary Jewish
> auteur is the most successful filmmaker since the advent of film -
> Steven Spielberg" Marcello, oh Marcello - is this yet another
> coincidence!? LOL! eheh SIGH...>
<<There is Sundance, by Redford, Miramax (which may not be Hollywood,
I'm
not sure) and probably a few others, some which may no longer exist,
or
were absorbed by the larger studios.The real early films were not
distributed by the major distributors as we know them today. Also
there are many other distributors worldwide. So it is not true that
EVERY MOVIE can first be traced back to Jewish people. Again, you're
woefully exaggerating.Finally, a director can get a lot of money, but
that doesn't necessarily mean his films are any good. I like
Spielberg's movies, but they are not as great as some of Kubrick's
films. And some of them are not even all that good. And, as I said
before, if I were to judge the major studios based on their product,
most of it is garbage.
Marcello>>
Marcello, let's try it one last time: What part of "European Jews are
the founding fathers of all the original, major Hollywood studios" did
you not understand? Secondly, STANLEY KUBRICK was Jewish, as is HARVEY
& BOB WEINSTEIN of MIRAMAX! DOH! Furthermore, I said "EVERY MOVIE
FIRST," not "EVERY MOVIE."
Learn how to read!! e.g. The first sex symbol in movie history was
Jewish (THEDA BARA, b. GOODMAN), the first theatre to be used solely
for the showing of motion pictures was built by a Jew (ADOLF ZUKOR),
the star of the first "talkie," AL JOLSON (b. YOELSON) was Jewish, the
first full-length sound picture, "The Jazz Singer" was produced by
Jews (SAMUEL L. GOLDWYN (b. Goldfish) & LOUIS B. MAYER (MGM), the
first female President of a major Hollywood studio (Paramount) was
Jewish (SHERRY LANSING), the idea to award an actor with an Academy
Award (Oscar) was devised by Jewish LOUIS B. MAYER (MGM), and the
first full-length feature film, "The Squaw Man," (1914) was directed
by a Jew (CECIL B. DEMILLE), etc, etc. Marcello, to save yourself any
further embarrassment (since you obviously have no clue to anything
Jewish), why not better acquaint yourself with the beauty & brilliance
of my people? As it stands, almost all of your responses are laced
with anti-Semitic overtones (see "most of Hollywood is garbage"),
excuses, psychobabble & envy. FYI: not every movie can be "THE
GODFATHER" or "ANNIE HALL." How does this have any bearing on those
European Jews who had the foresight to create what billions now enjoy?
Marcello, if you hate movies so much, why are you still accessing this
forum!? Why are you still SHLEPPING to theatres and renting films!?
DOH! Remember, movies have shaped American & world culture more than
any other medium. Movies give us many of our heroes. Movies that help
identify our values. They help define for us love and life, the "good
guys" and the "bad guys." They teach us to laugh and to cry. And most
important of all, they imbue us with our dreams. Hollywood movies,
probably more than anything else, created the American dream and then
exported it around the world. And wonders to wonders, the founding
fathers of cinema and many of the most important movers and shakers of
this industry were none other than the descendants of Abraham. Progeny
of the very people who in ancient days sought to influence the world
by using holy wood to build a temple, would now create Hollywood to
build an industry that would attract devout worshipers and insatiable
devotees. The story of the birth of the movies is so fascinating, it
ought to be made into a movie. All this in spite of a religion that
comprises a mere 1/4 of 1% (13 million) of the world's population (6
billion).
Mason Barge
wrote:
>In article <ea3caee5.02033...@posting.google.com>,
>darr...@aol.com says...
>> Marcello Penso <m.p...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.170c71d14...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
>> > In article <ea3caee5.02032...@posting.google.com>,
>> Marcello, you simply don't know when to quit, eh!? What part of
>> "European Jews are the founding fathers of all the major Hollywood
>> studios" did you not comprehend? What part of "Every movie first can
>> be traced back to the Jewish people" did you not comprehend!? The mere
>> fact that you are unwilling to concede to this undeniable fact, proves
>> to me that you are insanely jealous of the Jewish people, or sincerely
>> clueless to the Jewish-created Hollywood. Now read it and weep: MGM
>> (Louis B. Mayer - also created the idea to award an actor with an
>> Oscar, Samuel Goldwyn), UNIVERSAL (Irving Thalberg, Carl Laemmle),
>> PARAMOUNT/RKO (David O. Selznick, Adolph Zucker), WARNER BROS. (Jack
>> Warner), 20TH CENTURY FOX FILM CORP (William Fox, Jacob Loeb),
>> COLUMBIA (Harry Cohn). Marcello, here's a little hint: When the "some"
>> movie studios comprises all of the movie studios, the "some" then
>> becomes the "majority." ehehe DOH! -D, NYC "This legendary Jewish
>> auteur is the most successful filmmaker since the advent of film -
>> Steven Spielberg" Marcello, oh Marcello - is this yet another
>> coincidence!? LOL! eheh SIGH...>
Neither one of you guys seems to have heard of United Artists.
--
Mason Barge
"People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they like."
-- Abraham Lincoln
John Harkness
darr...@aol.com (darr...@aol.com) wrote in message news:<ea3caee5.02052...@posting.google.com>...
> In article <ea3caee5.02033...@posting.google.com>,
> darr...@aol.com says...
> Marcello, let's try it one last time: What part of "European Jews are
> the founding fathers of all the original, major Hollywood studios" did
> you not understand? Secondly, STANLEY KUBRICK was Jewish, as is HARVEY
> & BOB WEINSTEIN of MIRAMAX! DOH! Furthermore, I said "EVERY MOVIE
> FIRST," not "EVERY MOVIE."
> Learn how to read!! e.g. The first sex symbol in movie history was
> Jewish (THEDA BARA, b. GOODMAN), the first theatre to be used solely
> for the showing of motion pictures was built by a Jew (ADOLF ZUKOR),
> the star of the first "talkie," AL JOLSON (b. YOELSON) was Jewish, the
> first full-length sound picture, "The Jazz Singer" was produced by
> Jews (SAMUEL L. GOLDWYN (b. Goldfish) & LOUIS B. MAYER (MGM), the
> first female President of a major Hollywood studio (Paramount) was
> Jewish (SHERRY LANSING), the idea to award an actor with an Academy
> Award (Oscar) was devised by Jewish LOUIS B. MAYER (MGM), and the
> first full-length feature film, "The Squaw Man," (1914) was directed
> by a Jew (CECIL B. DEMILLE),
The Squaw Man was not the first feature length film -- there are
Italian features that predate it.
John Harkness
Francois Desnoyers
"darr...@aol.com" wrote:
With you on the other end, it only seems to be a naturally normal response to a pompous ass! Too bad for the Jewish community
that you are a jew :-(
> (see "most of Hollywood is garbage"),
> excuses, psychobabble & envy. FYI: not every movie can be "THE
> GODFATHER" or "ANNIE HALL." How does this have any bearing on those
> European Jews who had the foresight to create what billions now enjoy?
The killing of the 7th art form by money oriented recepy making businessmen?
>
> Marcello, if you hate movies so much, why are you still accessing this
> forum!? Why are you still SHLEPPING to theatres and renting films!?
> DOH! Remember, movies have shaped American & world culture more than
> any other medium. Movies give us many of our heroes.
Hurg!?! We all need an action hero's poster in our bedroom door, that's true! It protects my sleep and enhances my sleepless
nights ;-)
> Movies that help
> identify our values.
Push. as in brainwash...
> They help define for us love and life, the "good
> guys" and the "bad guys."
Whose life can be enhanced by such a simplistic show of values?
> They teach us to laugh and to cry.
You did not know how to do that before???? hmmm.. Now I'm starting to understand...
> And most
> important of all, they imbue us with our dreams.
Poor soul with a two dimensional imaginatioon.
> Hollywood movies,
> probably more than anything else, created the American dream
Which is a lot of bul*.
> and then
> exported it around the world.
And help destroy other countries movie making industries in the process.
> And wonders to wonders, the founding
> fathers of cinema and many of the most important movers and shakers of
> this industry were none other than the descendants of Abraham.
Who gives a shit?
> Progeny
> of the very people who in ancient days sought to influence the world
> by using holy wood to build a temple, would now create Hollywood to
> build an industry that would attract devout worshipers and insatiable
> devotees.
Oh boy... How can anyone respond to this.... Please someone give me the number of the nearest asylum?
darr...@aol.com
> Cecil B. DeMille was Jewish?>
You bet! Cecil's mother was an English Jew (who later converted to
Christianity), father was not. Under Talmud law, Judaism is solely
determined by the matriarchal lineage. Thus making CEESE (eheh) a
sweet full-blooded Jew. John, anything else that I can help you with!?
LOL! continued..
<The first full-length feature film, "The Squaw Man" (1914) was
directed by a Jew - Cecil B. Demille" >>
<<The Squaw Man was not the first feature length film -- there are
> Italian features that predate it.>>
John, what was the name of this film? Who has seen this film? The mere
fact that it occurred outside of Hollywood (assuming that such a
film(s) exists), excludes it from being "the first full-length feature
(key word) film to be made in Hollywood" (key word) John, remove the
venue of Jewish-created Hollywood, and how do you market a film!? LOL!
But alas, you just keep grasping! eehe
darr...@aol.com
Unfortunately for you, UA is now an MGM company! LOL! And from
1925-1935, it was run by sweet Jewish movie mogul, JOSEPH SCHENCK
(formerly of UNIVERSAL & 20TH CENTURY FOX, who also formed the MAGNA
CORPORATION w/ MIKE TODD (producer, also Jewish) to promote the
TODD-AO (named after MIKE TODD) wide-screen format. In 1951, it was
sold to sweet Jewish attorney, Robert S. Benjamin. In 1973, UA secured
domestic distribution rights to films released by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer
(MGM) Pictures. Eight years later in 1981, MGM cemented its
relationship with United Artists and purchased the studio in its
entirety. Once again, wherever you turn, so shall be the Jew! eh In
the end, the only prominent non-Jewish movie mogul was DARYL ZANUCK.
darr...@aol.com
(SNIPPED THE REST OF FRANCOIS'S ANTI-SEMITIC BABBLING)
> With you on the other end, it only seems to be a naturally normal response to a pompous ass! Too bad for the Jewish community> that you are a jew :-(>
OY MERDE! eh I see we have our very own anti-Semitic French-Canadian,
eh?! ehe I would have hoped for anti-Semitic Parisian, but
French-Canadian will also suffice!eheh Francois, I don't think too
many people need to be reminded about the French and their blasphemous
history. A history that is still mired in anti-Semitism. A recent
surge of anti-Semitic attacks, Holocaust deniers amongst candidates
running for Presidency, etc., etc. Once again, praise the Jews, and
the jealous Gentiles come a running! I do not become a "pompous ass,"
simply because you (an obvious anti-Semite) are unable to accept my
candor. P.S. $10 says that inferiority-driven Bob acknowledges this
cretin, just to spite me!ehehheeee -D, NYC "This legendary
French-Jewish born prophet & physician of the 15th century converted
to Christianity in order to avoid persecution - NOSTRADAMUS"
darr...@aol.com
darr...@aol.com" wrote:
> "Dan Sternberg" <danny_s...@yahoo.com>
> > "This legendary Jewish song-and-dance man was a founding member of the
> > Rat-Pack and covered Anthony Newley's song 'The Candyman Can'. - Sammy Davis
> > Jr."> -Dan>
> LOL! Dan, my fellow YID, I can do one better: "This legendary Jewish
> comedian is the only surviving rat pack member and played an important
> role in Sammy D's decision to convert to Judaism - Joey Bishop" ehehhe
> Incidentally, Newley was Jewish on his father's side!!!>>
<<So he wasn't Jewish (see Harrison Ford)>>
Liam, Harrison's mother is Jewish! DOH! Thus making Harry Harrison
Ford a full-blooded Jew under Talmud law. For the umpteenth time,
Judaism is solely determined by the matriarchal lineage. BTW, how's
the priesthood and Catholic Church doing these days!?ehehehe LOL! DOH!
In case the new users may be unaware, Liam once had the CHUTZPA to
post anti-Semitic propaganda a few months ago, citing the one rare
instance when a Rabbi had molested his nephew. Liam, drop us a line
when JEWISH TEMPLES start shelling out $500 million dollars in child
molestation lawsuit settlements! DOH!
Peter T. Daniels
So you haven't heard about the Cantor of Temple Emmanuel, on Fifth
Avenue, New York City, who copped to molesting numerous young male
relatives over many years?
--
Peter T. Daniels gram...@att.net
Francois Desnoyers
"darr...@aol.com" wrote:
> Li...@optonline.net wrote:
> darr...@aol.com" wrote:
> > "Dan Sternberg" <danny_s...@yahoo.com>
> > > "This legendary Jewish song-and-dance man was a founding member of the
> > > Rat-Pack and covered Anthony Newley's song 'The Candyman Can'. - Sammy Davis
> > > Jr."> -Dan>
>
> > LOL! Dan, my fellow YID, I can do one better: "This legendary Jewish
> > comedian is the only surviving rat pack member and played an important
> > role in Sammy D's decision to convert to Judaism - Joey Bishop" ehehhe
> > Incidentally, Newley was Jewish on his father's side!!!>>
>
> <<So he wasn't Jewish (see Harrison Ford)>>
>
> Liam, Harrison's mother is Jewish! DOH!
DOH, you say?
> Thus making Harry Harrison
> Ford a full-blooded Jew under Talmud law. For the umpteenth time,
> Judaism is solely determined by the matriarchal lineage. BTW, how's
> the priesthood and Catholic Church doing these days!?ehehehe LOL! DOH!
What is your take on the current events regarding Israel and Palestinians?
Francois Desnoyers
how...@brazee.net wrote:
> On 24-May-2002, darr...@aol.com (darr...@aol.com) wrote:
>
> > For the umpteenth time, Judaism is solely determined by the matriarchal
> > lineage
>
> So someone cannot be converted either way.
You can get out of it but you can't get into it. Aint that a riot?
darr...@aol.com
Peter, that's precisely the incident I was alluding to! DOH! Hey, at
least Jews keep it in the family! LOL! Once again, every religion is
subject to fallibility. At the same time, not every religion has been
able to persevere to the extent of the Jewish people. A people who
have been persecuted for centuries, lost 6 million of their people in
the Holocaust, and comprise a mere 1/4 of 1% of the world's
population. In the end, Jews have overwhelming done more good for
society than bad. It's ludicrous to judge an entire religion solely by
the actions of a few. At the same time, we all know that child
molestation amongst the priesthood is anything but far & few! This is
SWEET JUSTICE for the Catholic Church! Catholicism has a long history
of engaging in blasphemous behavior, including anti-Semitism. No other
religion has as much blood on their hands as the Catholic Church:
Condemning all Jews to hell in 1205 AD, granting indulgences to commit
sin, worship and deification of saints, The Crusades, The Inquisition,
Extinguishing the Aztec culture,signing the Lateran Treaty with
Mussolini, collaboration with the Nazi government, and assisting with
the escape of former Nazis after WWII, fostering the rampant spread of
AIDS in Africa, graft, embezzlement, gluttony, and rampant greed. And
last but most certainly not least: sodomy of countless altar boys.
Daniel Seriff
(in message <3CF02E8B...@micro-intel.com>):
Of course you can convert to Judaism. I dated a convert last year. Her
conversion was conservative, so she wasn't an official Jew as far as the
Israeli orthodox were concerned, but she was looking into having an orthodox
conversion so she could move to Israel and have (Jewish) kids.
--
Daniel Seriff
Bears are crazy. They'll bite your head if you're wearing steak on it.
- SG
Peter T. Daniels
> > Avenue, New York City, who copped to molesting numerous young male
> > relatives over many years?>>
>
> Peter, that's precisely the incident I was alluding to!
Then why did you say "Rabbi" rather than "Cantor," and why did you
allude to only one "victim"?
sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il
: Of course you can convert to Judaism. I dated a convert last year. Her
: conversion was conservative, so she wasn't an official Jew as far as the
: Israeli orthodox were concerned, but she was looking into having an orthodox
: conversion so she could move to Israel and have (Jewish) kids.
(1) Conservative conversions are generally not accepted by Orthodox
authorities no matter what country they are in.
(2) Unless things have changed since the last time I checked on these
things, Conservative (and Reform) converts are eligible for Israeli
citizenship under the Law of Return.
(3) The question of whether her children are Jewish is independent of
whether she is in Israel at the time she bears them.
-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
And when I found the door was shut,
I tried to turn the handle, but --
Daniel Seriff
(in message <acqndd$9ik$1...@news.iucc.ac.il>):
> In rec.music.classical Daniel Seriff <micro...@what.zzz> wrote:
>
>> Of course you can convert to Judaism. I dated a convert last year. Her
>> conversion was conservative, so she wasn't an official Jew as far as the
>> Israeli orthodox were concerned, but she was looking into having an
>> orthodox
>> conversion so she could move to Israel and have (Jewish) kids.
>
> (1) Conservative conversions are generally not accepted by Orthodox
> authorities no matter what country they are in.
>
> (2) Unless things have changed since the last time I checked on these
> things, Conservative (and Reform) converts are eligible for Israeli
> citizenship under the Law of Return.
>
> (3) The question of whether her children are Jewish is independent of
> whether she is in Israel at the time she bears them.
All of these things are true, of course, but this girl was more Jewish than
most of the natural-born Jews I know. She *really* wanted to be orthodox,
live in Israel, and to have orthodox children.
Meron Lavie
news:1shseus3aeemd1kh8...@4ax.com...
> Mason Barge
>
> "People who like this sort of thing will find this the sort of thing they
like."
> -- Abraham Lincoln
>
Mason,
You should have told people what the wonderful Lincoln quote is about!
The story is that some acquaintance of Honest Abe foisted a book he had
authored upon the President and asked for him to recommend it. Lincoln, true
to his moniker, couldn't lie and say that the book was good, so that quote's
what he gave as his appraisal of the book. Just like "Dubya" would have
done, right? (Hey - don't blame me - I didn't vote for ...
... NADER!)
Meron Lavie
Marcello Penso
darr...@aol.com says...
You said 'every movie first can be traced back to the Jewish people'.
This is not true, incorrect and inaccurate. Many early films were not
produced by Hollywood film studios, and some of the earliest were not
even produced in Hollywood.
> Learn how to read!! e.g. The first sex symbol in movie history was
> Jewish (THEDA BARA, b. GOODMAN), the first theatre to be used solely
> for the showing of motion pictures was built by a Jew (ADOLF ZUKOR),
> the star of the first "talkie," AL JOLSON (b. YOELSON) was Jewish, the
> first full-length sound picture, "The Jazz Singer" was produced by
> Jews (SAMUEL L. GOLDWYN (b. Goldfish) & LOUIS B. MAYER (MGM), the
> first female President of a major Hollywood studio (Paramount) was
> Jewish (SHERRY LANSING), the idea to award an actor with an Academy
> Award (Oscar) was devised by Jewish LOUIS B. MAYER (MGM), and the
> first full-length feature film, "The Squaw Man," (1914) was directed
> by a Jew (CECIL B. DEMILLE), etc, etc.
But none of this backs up your point. Movies were begun in the 1880s-
1890s, and the idea of movies has been around since the 17th century
'carousel' (not actually called carousel, I can't remember the name now,
but it's the device that let you see 'moving' pictures while it spins).
> Marcello, to save yourself any
> further embarrassment (since you obviously have no clue to anything
> Jewish), why not better acquaint yourself with the beauty & brilliance
> of my people? As it stands, almost all of your responses are laced
> with anti-Semitic overtones (see "most of Hollywood is garbage"),
> excuses, psychobabble & envy. FYI: not every movie can be "THE
> GODFATHER" or "ANNIE HALL." How does this have any bearing on those
> European Jews who had the foresight to create what billions now enjoy?
They don't exclusively create them, and what is promoted by the studios
nowadays IS garbage, like it or not.
> Marcello, if you hate movies so much, why are you still accessing this
> forum!?
I do not hate movies. They can be a valid art form, but most of what
comes out of Hollywood nowadays is noisy gibberish.
> Why are you still SHLEPPING to theatres and renting films!?
> DOH! Remember, movies have shaped American & world culture more than
> any other medium.
Hollywood movies do NOT shape WORLD culture; they barely shape national
culture. Until you've travelled and seen the world, there is no way you
can understand what this means. Movies are mostly entertainment, period.
National cultural is shaped by many other far more substantial things,
like economics, politics, population make up, traditions, history,
technology, diet, climate, quality of life, language, etc.....
> Movies give us many of our heroes. Movies that help
> identify our values. They help define for us love and life, the "good
> guys" and the "bad guys." They teach us to laugh and to cry. And most
> important of all, they imbue us with our dreams. Hollywood movies,
> probably more than anything else, created the American dream and then
> exported it around the world. And wonders to wonders, the founding
> fathers of cinema and many of the most important movers and shakers of
> this industry were none other than the descendants of Abraham. Progeny
> of the very people who in ancient days sought to influence the world
> by using holy wood to build a temple, would now create Hollywood to
> build an industry that would attract devout worshipers and insatiable
> devotees. The story of the birth of the movies is so fascinating, it
> ought to be made into a movie. All this in spite of a religion that
> comprises a mere 1/4 of 1% (13 million) of the world's population (6
> billion).
We've gone over this discourse before. To argue ANY sort of supremacy of
Jewish people (or any other people) based on genetics or otherwise, is 1)
factually unprovable and 2) extremely immoral, since it can easily lead
to such nice things as a Holocaust.
It's surprising for someone who professes to be Jewish to be making such
an unfounded and ridiculous argument.
Marcello
Bob
Marcello Penso wrote:
>
> It's surprising for someone who professes to be Jewish to be making such
> an unfounded and ridiculous argument.
>
> Marcello
Not if you consider that Darrin my be trying to foment hatred of Jews by being so obnoxious. ( Or perhaps he is a Palestinian Arab?)
Bob
Jim
> But none of this backs up your point. Movies were begun in the 1880s-
> 1890s, and the idea of movies has been around since the 17th century
> 'carousel' (not actually called carousel, I can't remember the name now,
> but it's the device that let you see 'moving' pictures while it spins).
That would be a zoetrope.
Francois Desnoyers
Jim wrote:
Geotrope would be more accurate, no?
darr...@aol.com
> In article <ea3caee5.02052...@posting.google.com>,
> darr...@aol.com says...
> > In article <ea3caee5.02033...@posting.google.com>,
> > darr...@aol.com says...
> > > Marcello Penso <m.p...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.170c71d14...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
> > > > In article <ea3caee5.02032...@posting.google.com>,
> > > > darr...@aol.com says...
> > > > > Marcello Penso <m.p...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.17033b0e6...@netnews.worldnet.att.net>...
> > > > > > In article <ea3caee5.02031...@posting.google.com>,
>
> > <<There is Sundance, by Redford, Miramax (which may not be Hollywood,
> > I'm> > not sure) and probably a few others, some which may no longer exist,
> > or> > were absorbed by the larger studios.The real early films were not
> > distributed by the major distributors as we know them today. Also
> > there are many other distributors worldwide. So it is not true that
> > EVERY MOVIE can first be traced back to Jewish people. Again, you're
> > woefully exaggerating.Finally, a director can get a lot of money, but
> > that doesn't necessarily mean his films are any good. I like
> > Spielberg's movies, but they are not as great as some of Kubrick's
> > films. And some of them are not even all that good. And, as I said
> > before, if I were to judge the major studios based on their product,
> > most of it is garbage.
> > Marcello>>> >
> > Marcello, let's try it one last time: What part of "European Jews are
> > the founding fathers of all the original, major Hollywood studios" did
> > you not understand? Secondly, STANLEY KUBRICK was Jewish, as is HARVEY
> > & BOB WEINSTEIN of MIRAMAX! DOH! Furthermore, I said "EVERY MOVIE
> > FIRST," not "EVERY MOVIE.">> > Learn how to read!! e.g. The first
sex symbol in movie history was> > Jewish (THEDA BARA, b. GOODMAN),
the first theatre to be used solely> > for the showing of motion
pictures was built by a Jew (ADOLF ZUKOR),> > the star of the first
"talkie," AL JOLSON (b. YOELSON) was Jewish, the> > first full-length
sound picture, "The Jazz Singer" was produced by> > Jews (SAMUEL L.
GOLDWYN (b. Goldfish) & LOUIS B. MAYER
MGM), the> > first female President of a major Hollywood studio
(Paramount) was
> > Jewish (SHERRY LANSING), the idea to award an actor with an Academy
> > Award (Oscar) was devised by Jewish LOUIS B. MAYER (MGM), and the
> > first full-length feature film, "The Squaw Man," (1914) was directed
> > by a Jew (CECIL B. DEMILLE), etc, etc.
> You said 'every movie first can be traced back to the Jewish people'.
> This is not true, incorrect and inaccurate. Many early films were not
> produced by Hollywood film studios, and some of the earliest were not
> even produced in Hollywood.> It's surprising for someone who professes to be Jewish to be making such an unfounded and ridiculous argument. >>
Marcello, when "the most important movie firsts" can be traced back
to the very people who created Hollywood (key word), I think it's fair
to assume
that Jews have "the movie first market" cornered! LOL! DOH! Marcello,
if we really wanted to be technical, yes, every movie in Hollywood
(key word)
can be traced back to the Jews. Remember, Jews created Hollywood and
continue to run every facet of its being. There isn't one film in
existence where Jews have not been vital (in whatever capacity) to the
overall success of a motion picture. In the end, Hollywood (most
powerful medium in the world) is where it counts! Marcello, do you
think it's just a coincidence that DREAMWORKS happens to be run by
four sweet Jews? They being: SPIELBERG, KATZENBERG, EISNER & GEFFEN.
Do you think it's just a coincidence that sweet Jewish MICHAEL EISNER
also heads DISNEY!? Do you think it's just a coincidence that sweet
Jewish GERALD LEVIN heads TIME/WARNER!? DISNEY & TIME/WARNER alone are
two of the largest media conglomerates in the world!! As fellow
brethren BEN STEIN (Emmy winning host of "Win Ben Stein's Money,"
attorney, actor, former Nixon speech writer) once wrote, "Do Jews run
Hollywood? You bet they do, and what of it?" Marcello, what of
it!?eheheheh In the end, the only thing ridiculous is for you to
continue to deny the obvious. -D, NYC "In 1933, a researcher
discovered consistent Jewish overrepresentation in the classical music
world, including "51% of the first violins of twelve orchestras,"
23.8% of the works "performed by symphony orchestras," and so forth.
Why was this so? Comparing Jewish and non-Jewish children, Kenneth
Sward found no intelligence differences, but speculated that "the
Jewish child may be a superior all-around
organism by 'nature.'" [WEYL, N., 1968, p. 188]>
sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il
: All of these things are true, of course, but this girl was more Jewish than
: most of the natural-born Jews I know.
Unfortunately, "being Jewish" is a quantized property: either you are or
you aren't. Thus, it is not possible for one person to be "more Jewish"
than another.
-----
Richard Schultz sch...@mail.biu.ac.il
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"You go on playing Bach your way, and I'll go on playing him *his* way."
-- Wanda Landowska
Thomas Andrews
<sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote in message
news:ad1n9k$9oe$3...@news.iucc.ac.il...
> In rec.music.classical Daniel Seriff <micro...@what.zzz> wrote:
>
> : All of these things are true, of course, but this girl was more Jewish
than
> : most of the natural-born Jews I know.
>
> Unfortunately, "being Jewish" is a quantized property: either you are or
> you aren't. Thus, it is not possible for one person to be "more Jewish"
> than another.
>
Well, the thing is, there are several definition os "being Jewish."
Let's say they are (A), (B), and (C).
Say Jim satisfies (A) and (B), Jane satisfies (A), and Jon satisfies
(A) and (C).
Then Jane is "less Jewish" than both Jim and Jon, in the boolean sense.
Hope that helps :-)
--
Thomas Andrews (tho...@best.com) http://thomaso.best.vwh.net/
Dale, you giblet-head, we live in Texas. It's already 110 in
the summer, and if it gets one degree hotter, I'm gonna kick
your ass. = Hank Hill, on global warming
Daniel Seriff
(in message <ad1n9k$9oe$3...@news.iucc.ac.il>):
> In rec.music.classical Daniel Seriff <micro...@what.zzz> wrote:
>
>> All of these things are true, of course, but this girl was more Jewish
>> than most of the natural-born Jews I know.
>
> Unfortunately, "being Jewish" is a quantized property: either you are or
> you aren't. Thus, it is not possible for one person to be "more Jewish"
> than another.
By that, I mean more observant and more genuinely religious. I have observed
wide gradations in "Jewishness". All Jews are Jews, but some are secular and
some are religious, or any of the shades of gray between.
I don't consider myself a very "Jewish" Jew. I like bacon cheeseburgers, and
I've only been to services once or twice in the last 15 years or so. I can't
even recite Kaddish anymore without tripping over the words, although I can
read Hebrew (and Aramaic) very slowly (but only if it's pointed).
--
Daniel Seriff
Torah! Torah! Torah!
- War cry of the kamikaze Rabbis
Meron Lavie
news:ea3caee5.02052...@posting.google.com...
> Do you think it's just a coincidence that sweet Jewish MICHAEL EISNER
> also heads DISNEY!?
Darrin,
It's primarily _ironic_ that Eisner heads Disney, since Walt Disney was a
known anti-Semite.
Meron Lavie
Peter T. Daniels
Ah -- a nice short one. Isn't it ironic that the only thing the alleged
Jew "darrint" can find to brag about is movies? If I were going to
compile a list of prominent Jews, it would probably begin with those who
contributed in areas of greater general significance.
Bob
"Peter T. Daniels" wrote:
Oh, don't worry, he has the lists. What is sad is that the only accomplishment
he can brag about for himself is that he was born a Jew.
I gather from his posts that he does this bragging about how wonderful Jews are
is because he finds himself valueless otherwise.
Bob
Meron Lavie
Peter,
To be honest, I'm not terribly happy with this thread to begin with. Ethnic
generalizations are a dangerous thing, to say the least - even if they are
ostensively complimentary. I myself am Jewish, and I once heard that about
seventy years ago some guy with a mustache came up with this idea that
Aryans are superior to everyone else. I seem to recall that this didn't end
up terribly well for us Jews...
--
Meron Lavie
la...@net2vision.net.il
NOTE: THERE IS NO "2" IN MY REAL EMAIL ADDRESS: ANTI-SPAM!!!
Bob
Meron Lavie wrote:
Well said, Meron.
Bob
darr...@aol.com
> Jerry Lewis is Jewish???????????>
Steve & Rhonda, do the two of you get out much!?eheh Sweet Jewish
Jerry Lewis was born Jerome Levitch. Remember, nobody does "the funny"
better than the Jews! eh The most influential comedians of the 20th
century have predominantly been Jewish. Amazing, since we must always
factor in their 1/4 of 1% standing in the world's populous. e.g. Do
you think it's just a coincidence that the late Milton "Uncle Milte"
Berle (b. Berlinger) is regarded as "Mr. Television?" If not for he
and Sid Ceasar (also Jewish), where would t.v. be? Do you also think
it's just a coincidence that "Seinfeld" was recently rated as the most
successful & popular sitcom in television history? Once again, Jews
eventually become synonymous with their chosen professions. Here's
just a taste of some of the many great Jewish legends & household
names in the comedic world (afterword included):
Bud Abbott (mother was Jewish, Abbott & Costello)
Woody Allen (Konigsberg)
Marty Allen
Jason Alexander (Greenspan)
Joey Adams (born Abramowitz, converted to Christian Science)
Ed Asner
Hank Azaria
Lenny Bruce (Born Leonard Alfred Schneider, revolutioned comedy like
no other before him or since)
Richard Belzer
Sandra Bernhard
Fanny Brice (Borach)
Albert Brooks (Einstein, brother of "Super Dave Osbourne")
Joey Bishop (the only living member of the "Rat Pack")
Milton "Uncle Milte" Berle (Berlinger, "Mr. Television")
David Brenner
Andrew Dice Clay (Silverstein)
George Burns (Nathan Birnbaum)
Elayne Boosler
Roseanne Barr
Richard Benjamin
Mel Brooks (Kaminsky)
Red Buttons (Aaron Chwatt)
Jack Benny (Benjamin Kubelsky)
Victor Borge (danish Jew, Rosenbaum)
Eddie Cantor (Iskowitch)
Billy Crystal
Sid Ceasar
Marty "googly eyes" Feldman
Rodney Dangerfield (Jack Cohen)
Larry David
Fyvush Finkel
Al Franken
Jackie Gayle
Larry Gelbart (M*A*S*H)
Gilbert Gottfried
Elliott Gould
Shecky Greene
Buddy Hackett
Goldie Hawn
Buck Henry (Zuckerman)
Andy Kaufman
Gabriel Kaplan
Jonathan Katz (Dr. Katz, comedy central)
Danny Kaye (Kaminsky)
Alan King
Robert Klein
Lisa Kudrow
Carol Liefer
Jerry Lewis (Jerome Levitch)
Richard Lewis
Shari Lewis (Hurwitz, "Lambchops")
Jon Lovitz
Mal Z. Lawrence
Bill Maher (mother is Jewish)
Sally Marr (Lenny Bruce's mother, Joan Rivers portrayed her on
Broadway)
The Marx Brothers
Jackie Mason (Maza)
Elaine May (May/Nichols)
Anne Meara (Stiller/Meara, converted to Judaism)
Lorne Michaels (Lipowitz)
Marilyn Michaels
Larry Miller
Zero Mostel
Mike Nichols (Peschwosky)
Super Dave Osbourne (brother of Albert Brooks, born Einstein)
Kevin Pollak
Rhea Pearlman
Freddie Prinze Sr. (father was Hungarian Jew)
Carl Reiner
Rob Reiner
Joan Rivers (Molinsky)
Rita Rudner
Paul Reiser
Gilda Radner
Don Rickles
Freddy Roman
The Ritz Brothers
Paul Reubens (born Rubenfeld, aka Pee Wee Herman)
Adam Sandler
Bob Saget
George Segal
Sherwood Schwartz (Gilligan's Island, The Brady Bunch)
Harry Shearer
Jerry Seinfeld (coincidence that his show was rated as the most
successful & popular sitcom of all time!? ehe)
Mort Sahl
Soupy Sales (Supman)
Pauly Shore (son of Sammy & Mitzi)
Sammy Shore (father)
Mitzi Shore (owner of The Comedy Store)
Robert Schimmel
David Schwimmer
Gary Shandling
David Steinberg
Matt Stone (Southpark)
Yakoff Smirnoff ("What a Country!" ehe)
Jerry Stiller (Stiller/Meara)
Ben Stiller (half Jew)
Peter Sellers (mother was Jewish)
Howard Stern (contrary to his popular "half-Jew" shtick, Howie is a
full
blooded Jew)
Jon Stewart (Leibowitz)
Teller ("Penn & Teller, born Raymond Teller, father is Jewish)
Brother Theodore (Born Gottlieb, frequent favorite of David Letterman)
The Three Stooges (Horowitz)
Bruce Vilanch
Gene Wilder (Jerome Silberman)
Billy Wilder (Some Like It Hot)
Robert Wuhl
Henny Youngman
Who is a comedian!? Listen to Jackie Mason: "A normal person wouldn't
become a
comedian. The egomania, the neurosis, the need to overcompensate, the
feeling
that life is meaningless without stardom - it's too much suffering."
So who becomes a comedian? Groucho Marx, George Burns (Birnbaum),
Jack Benny
(Kubelsky), Milton Berle (Berlinger), Lenny Bruce (Schneider), Jerry
Seinfeld,
Howard Stern, Woody Allen (Konigsberg), The 3 Stooges, Rodney
Dangerfield
(Cohen), Mel Brooks (Kaminsky), the list goes on and on. There must be
a reason
here as well to explain not only why there are so many Jewish
comedians today,
but also why Jews throughout the ages have been known for their humor.
Maybe Mel Brooks understood it best: "I may be angry at God or at the
world,
and I'm sure that a lot of my comedy is based on anger and
hostility...It comes
from a feeling that as a Jew and as a person, I don't fit into the
mainstream
of American society." Feeling different, feeling alienated, feeling
persecuted,
feeling that the only way you can deal with the world is to laugh -
because if
you don't laugh you're going to cry and never stop crying - that's
probably
what's responsible for the Jews having developed such a great sense of
humor.
The people who had the greatest reason to weep, learned more than
anyone else
how to laugh. -D, NYC "On recent College Boards, Jews averaged 1161.
Unitarians did somewhat better (1209), but the national average was
1020. At the elite Ivy League schools, Jews make up 23 percent of the
student body, yet they're a measly 2 percent of the U.S. population"
darr...@aol.com
Meron, sweet justice is more like it!eheh Jews have been running
Disney for the past quarter century, beginning with Jeffrey
Katzenberg. -D, NYC "Three of the greatest comic book superheroes were
created by Jews: Superman (Joe Shuster & Jerry Siegel), Batman (Bob
Kane) & Spiderman (Stan Lee, b. Lieber)"
Dr. Speedbyrd:>
>Newpor...@webtv.net (Steve & Rhonda) wrote in message news:<29517-3C...@storefull-2211.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
>
>> Jerry Lewis is Jewish???????????>
>
>Steve & Rhonda, do the two of you get out much!?eheh Sweet Jewish
>Jerry Lewis was born Jerome Levitch. Remember, nobody does "the funny"
>better than the Jews! eh The most influential comedians of the 20th
>century have predominantly been Jewish. Amazing, since we must always
>factor in their 1/4 of 1% standing in the world's populous. e.g. Do
>you think it's just a coincidence that the late Milton "Uncle Milte"
>Berle (b. Berlinger) is regarded as "Mr. Television?" If not for he
>and Sid Ceasar (also Jewish), where would t.v. be? Do you also think
>it's just a coincidence that "Seinfeld" was recently rated as the most
>successful & popular sitcom in television history? Once again, Jews
>eventually become synonymous with their chosen professions. Here's
>just a taste of some of the many great Jewish legends & household
>names in the comedic world (afterword included):
>
Jerry Lewis is, and always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
I'm not surprised you think so highly of him. Although I know being jewish somehow makes him
better than everyone else. What a piece of work you are.
Dr. Speedbyrd®
Dr. Speedbyrd:>
>"Meron Lavie" <la...@net2vision.net.il> wrote in message news:<newscache$dnavwg$l2c$1...@lnews.actcom.co.il>...
>> <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:ea3caee5.02052...@posting.google.com...
>
>> > Do you think it's just a coincidence that sweet Jewish MICHAEL EISNER
>> > also heads DISNEY!?>
>
><<Darrin,> It's primarily _ironic_ that Eisner heads Disney, since
>Walt Disney was a> known anti-Semite.> Meron Lavie
I'm not surprised, if he encountered many like this Darrin dork.
Dr. Speedbyrd®
darr...@aol.com
Peter, your jealous Gentile propaganda is rearing its ugly little
foreskinned head again!eheh Where would you like me to begin!?
Medicine, Science, Law, Business, Art, Banking, Politics, Retail,
Religion, Education, Civil Rights, etc!? Choose any field of human
endeavor, and you will find that Jews have disproportionately excelled
in it. Since I am not about to list thousands of upon thousands of
names in every echelon of life, which can fill endless volumes of
encyclopedias (as inferiority-driven Bob said, "Believe me, Darrin has
the lists!"eheh), all I have to do is list the few of the many, which
will still obtain the same result: watching you get all bent out of
shape!hehe Now let's begin: Of the 660 Nobel prizes from 1901-1990,
160 have been won by Jews. That number translates into winning 40x
more than should be expected of them, simply based upon their small
population numbers. In the end, Jews win more Nobel prizes in medicine
& science (hey, look at that! two other areas of synonymity besides
Hollywood! eheh DOH!) than any other ethnicity. EINSTEIN (still the
greatest mind of the 20th century), first American scientist ever
awarded the Nobel prize was a JEW -ALBERT ABRAHAM MICHAELSON (see,
besides Hollywood, Jews cornerned the market on "Nobel firsts" as
well!eheh), DR. SALK & DR. SABIN (POLIO VACCINES, one of the most
important medical findings of the 20th century), DR. PAUL "MAGIC
BULLET" EHRLICH (syphilis cure, eventually gave way to modern
chemotherapy), DR. HEINRICH HERTZ (unit of measurement bears his name,
was the first to produce electromagnetic waves artificially,
eventually gave way to radar, t.v. and radio), CHAIM WEIZMANN
(English-Jew) was a brilliant chemist. In 1915, England faced a
critical shortage of acetone for explosives, and Weizmann figured out
a way to produce it synthetically from ordinary chestnuts, which were
plentiful in England. In gratitude, the English government wanted to
make Weizmann a knight. EMILE BERLINER (gramophone, invention gave way
to the modern record industry), DR. ABRAHAM JACOBI (father of
pediatrics), DR. RUTH WESTHEIMER (world's most famous sexologist),
HARRY HOUDINI (b. Erich Weiss, world's most famous magician &
illusionist. Is this yet another coincidence?!eh), ALLEN GREENSPAN
(federal reserve chairman, one of the most powerful men in the world),
HENRY KISSINGER (1975 Nobel peace prize, this legendary former
secretary of state to Nixon was the second Jew and the first
non-American born, ever to hold a US Cabinet post. Another "first"
coincidence!? LOL! DOH), DR. FREUD (revolutionalized psychiatry),
FRANZ KAFKA (one of the most influential authors of the 20th century),
ARTHUR MILLER (great 20th century playwright great), MARC CHAGALL (b.
Segal, great 20th century artist great), PETER MAX (pop art great), AL
HIRSCHFELD (caricature great), MIKE WALLACE (broadcasting legend),
LARRY KING (b. Zeiger, broadcasting legend), BARBARA WALTERS
(broadcasting legend, first female anchor on primetime t.v., the
"firsts" just keep on coming, eh?!ehe), GEORGE GERSHWIN (one of the
most prolific composers of the 20th century), ISAAC STERN (world's
greatest violinist), BENNY GOODMAN ("King of Swing," coincidence that
yet another Jew becomes synonymous with his profession?ehhe), SANDY
KOUFAX & HAMMERING HANK GREENBERG - Baseball HALL OF FAMERS, two of
the greatest MLB players of all time, MARK SPITZ (greatest Olympic
swimmer of all time), LEVI "Levi's" STRAUSS (inventor of jeans,
largest clothing retailer in the world), RALPH LAUREN, CALVIN KLEIN,
DONNA KARAN (3 of the largest fashion mavens in the world). Former
President Bill Clinton's cabinet and whitehouse staff comprised 50% of
Jews, HARVARD'S faculty & student body is comprised of 40% Jews. On
recent College Boards, Jews averaged 1161. Unitarians did somewhat
better (1209), but the national average was 1020. At the elite Ivy
League schools, Jews make up 23 percent of the student body, yet they
comprise a measly 2 percent of the U.S. ABRAHAM is the father of the
world's 3 major religions: Judaism, Christianity & Islam (ancestors of
the Hebrew & Arabic peoples). Jesus is still worshipped by billions.
HAYAM SOLOMON & ISAAC MOSES (respondible for creating the first modern
banking institutions in America), English-Jewish financiers are
responsible for turning England into an empire. Without the fortunes
of ISAAC GOLDSMID, NATHAN ROTHSCHILD, DAVID SALOMONS, and MOSES
MONTEFIORE, England wouldn't have a pot to piss in. The first 19th
century department stores (GIMBELS, ABRHAM & STRAUSS(ES) (now Macy's -
largest department store in the world), Mays, Altmans, Kaufmann, etc)
were all founded by JEWS. WILLIAM KUNSTLER, RAOUL FELDER, GLORIA
ALLRED, ROBERT SHAPIRO, BARRY SCHECK, ALLEN DERSHOWITZ (regarded as
one of the great law professors of the 20th century), GEOFRREY FEIGER.
All of whom happen to be the most "high profile" attorneys of the 20th
century. In 1909, four Jews were among the 60 multi-cultural signers
of the call to The National Action, which resulted in the creation of
the NAACP. Jews later went on to create the ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE and
ACLU.
Remember, to say that Jews are better than anyone else is to be guilty
of a politically incorrect kind of chauvinism. But one thing is
certain: Jews are one of the most successful and brilliant peoples on
the planet. There simply is no way to deny it! All in spite of the
overwhelming odds against them: thousands of years of persecution, The
Holocaust and comprising but 1% of the world's population. Mark Twain
(righteous Gentile) said it best:
" ..."If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one quarter
of one
percent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of stardust
lost in
the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly, the Jew ought hardly to be heard
of; but
he is heard of, has always been heard of. He is as prominent on the
planet as
any other people, and his importance is extravagantly out of
proportion to the
smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world's list of great
names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine and
abstruse learning are very out of proportion to the weakness of his
numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world in all ages; and
has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of
himself and be excused for it. The Egyptians, the Babylonians and the
Persians rose, filled the planet with sound and splendour; then faded
to dream-stuff and passed away: the Greeks and the Romans followed and
made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and
held their torch high for a time but it burned out, and they sit in
twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, survived them
all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no
infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his
energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are
mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the
secret of his immortality?" Excerpt from September 1898 issue of
Harper's New Monthly Magazine
Bob
"Dr. Speedbyrd:>" wrote:
Speed, Darrin, I think, pretends to be Jewish in order to incite hatred for the Jews. Many Jewish posters have
taken him to task in the past. As to his being a dork, I think you are far too kind in your estimation of
Darrin.
Bob
Peter T. Daniels
> Peter, your jealous Gentile propaganda is rearing its ugly little
> foreskinned
I wish. Are you among the millions of ignorami (many of whom include
Jewish "comedians") unaware that the vast majority of American men are
circumcised?
Bob
"darr...@aol.com" wrote:
> "Meron Lavie" <la...@net2vision.net.il> wrote in message news:<newscache$dnavwg$l2c$1...@lnews.actcom.co.il>...
> > <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:ea3caee5.02052...@posting.google.com...
>
> > > Do you think it's just a coincidence that sweet Jewish MICHAEL EISNER
> > > also heads DISNEY!?>
>
> <<Darrin,> It's primarily _ironic_ that Eisner heads Disney, since
> Walt Disney was a> known anti-Semite.> Meron Lavie
>
> Meron, sweet justice is more like it!eheh Jews have been running
> Disney for the past quarter century, beginning with Jeffrey
> Katzenberg. -
Is that why Disneyland prices have become outrageous?
Bob
Meron Lavie
always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
>
Dear Speedbyrd,
What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
I dare you to name someone more annoying.
I _double_ dare you!!!
Meron Lavie
news:ea3caee5.02052...@posting.google.com...
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<3CF4C2...@worldnet.att.net>...
> > Meron Lavie wrote:
>
> > > <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ea3caee5.02052...@posting.google.com...
> > > > Do you think it's just a coincidence that sweet Jewish MICHAEL
EISNER
> > > > also heads DISNEY!?> >
>
> > > Darrin,
> > > It's primarily _ironic_ that Eisner heads Disney, since Walt Disney
was a
> > > known anti-Semite.>
>
> > Ah -- a nice short one. Isn't it ironic that the only thing the alleged
> > Jew "darrint" can find to brag about is movies? If I were going to
> > compile a list of prominent Jews, it would probably begin with those who
> > contributed in areas of greater general significance.
Darrin,
Your "Peter, your jealous Gentile propaganda is rearing its ugly little
foreskinned head again" is filthy and grotesque. You owe an apology to Peter
and to this entire group.
Simply detestable stuff.
Meron Lavie
news:ea3caee5.02052...@posting.google.com...
> "Meron Lavie" <la...@net2vision.net.il> wrote in message
news:<newscache$dnavwg$l2c$1...@lnews.actcom.co.il>...
> > <darr...@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:ea3caee5.02052...@posting.google.com...
>
> > > Do you think it's just a coincidence that sweet Jewish MICHAEL EISNER
> > > also heads DISNEY!?>
>
> <<Darrin,> It's primarily _ironic_ that Eisner heads Disney, since
> Walt Disney was a> known anti-Semite.> Meron Lavie
>
> Meron, sweet justice is more like it!eheh Jews have been running
> Disney for the past quarter century, beginning with Jeffrey
> Katzenberg. -D, NYC "Three of the greatest comic book superheroes were
> created by Jews: Superman (Joe Shuster & Jerry Siegel), Batman (Bob
> Kane) & Spiderman (Stan Lee, b. Lieber)"
Darrin,
Please do not misconstrue my posting as to be supporting your offensive
thread in any way, shape or form whatsoever. I was merely making a very
specific point.
Meron Lavie
I have an idea: let's lock up Darrin and Jerry Lewis in a room for 24 hrs.
OK - that's not fair - it would be too abusive to...
... _the_ _room_!!!
Peter T. Daniels
>
> "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
> always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
> > Dr. Speedbyrd®
> >
>
> Dear Speedbyrd,
>
> What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
>
> I dare you to name someone more annoying.
>
> I _double_ dare you!!!
Gilbert Gottfried? Carrot Top? Andrew Dice Clay? Kenny G?
Tom Keener
Sandra Bernhard
Tom Keener
email me if you want my email address
darr...@aol.com
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > Peter, your jealous Gentile propaganda is rearing its ugly little
> > foreskinned>
> I wish. Are you among the millions of ignorami (many of whom include
> Jewish "comedians") unaware that the vast majority of American men are
> circumcised?
Peter, over 60% of American newborns (regardless of ethnicity) are
circumcised each and every year! I am one of the first to come to the
defense of circumcision as a simple, safe & beneficial procedure. FYI:
circumcision is the safest & most common surgical procedure in all of
medicine, occurring more commonly than tooth extraction. I used the
"foreskinned Gentile" line because it sounded good!eeeheheeee However,
from your tone, I assumed you were European! eheh As you know, the
overwhelming majority of uncircumcised today are European Gentiles.
darr...@aol.com
Meron, once again, we are back to confusing "tasteless and in jest
remarks" with "outright racism." Peter knows that my comments are not
malicious. At the same time, Peter does seem to be somewhat testy when
it comes to anything Jewish. He once called me a "self-hating Jew" &
claimed that "very, very few Americans have ever heard of Yiddish,"
until I cited examples (millions of Howard Stern listeners) that
proved otherwise.
darr...@aol.com
> Marcello Penso wrote:
> > It's surprising for someone who professes to be Jewish to be making such
> > an unfounded and ridiculous argument.
> > Marcello>
> Not if you consider that Darrin my be trying to foment hatred of Jews by being so obnoxious. ( Or perhaps he is a Palestinian Arab?)> Bob
Bob, I think it's time for a medication change!heeh Your delusions
seem to be getting progressively worse!ehehehehe
Bob
Meron Lavie wrote:
> "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
> always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
> > Dr. Speedbyrd®
> >
>
> Dear Speedbyrd,
>
> What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
>
> I dare you to name someone more annoying.
>
> I _double_ dare you!!!
>
> --
> Meron Lavie
Have you seen Andrew "Dice" Clay?
Bob
Peter T. Daniels
But she has occasionally done good work -- for instance as a
semi-regular on *Roseanne*.
> Tom Keener
Sorry, I don't know who that is.
Peter T. Daniels
>
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<3CF615...@worldnet.att.net>...
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > Peter, your jealous Gentile propaganda is rearing its ugly little
> > > foreskinned>
>
> > I wish. Are you among the millions of ignorami (many of whom include
> > Jewish "comedians") unaware that the vast majority of American men are
> > circumcised?
>
> Peter, over 60% of American newborns (regardless of ethnicity) are
> circumcised each and every year! I am one of the first to come to the
Until some 20 years ago, it was well over 90%.
> defense of circumcision as a simple, safe & beneficial procedure. FYI:
And utterly useless, and harmful in the long run.
> circumcision is the safest & most common surgical procedure in all of
> medicine, occurring more commonly than tooth extraction. I used the
> "foreskinned Gentile" line because it sounded good!eeeheheeee However,
> from your tone, I assumed you were European! eheh As you know, the
> overwhelming majority of uncircumcised today are European Gentiles.
I rather doubt that, since "Europeans" are far from the "overwhelming
majority" of humans.
Peter T. Daniels
He's not malicious; he's stupid, and promoting anti-Jewish sentiment
with his empty boasting (hence "self-hating").
He's either illiterate or a liar, since I said few Americans have ever
heard Yiddish.
"To hear" and "to hear of" are not the same thing.
darr...@aol.com
> Meron Lavie wrote:
With the exception of Carrot Top (b. Scott Thompson), all of the above
named are sweet Jews. P.S. The "G" in "Kenny G" stands for
GORELICK!ehehehe Peter, care to comment on why you find Dice (b.
Silverstein) annoying!? Let me guess: for the same reasons that I
automatically become a "self-hating Jew!?" LOL! DOH! Once again, we
seem to have many immature users who are incapable of discerning
between tasteless humor and racism. Peter, if you do not share my
wonderful & wacky wit, you are going to hurt yourself when
responding!eheh
Stephen Farrow
>
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<3CF615...@worldnet.att.net>...
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > Peter, your jealous Gentile propaganda is rearing its ugly little
> > > foreskinned>
>
> > I wish. Are you among the millions of ignorami (many of whom include
> > Jewish "comedians") unaware that the vast majority of American men are
> > circumcised?
>
> Peter, over 60% of American newborns (regardless of ethnicity) are
> circumcised each and every year! I am one of the first to come to the
> defense of circumcision as a simple, safe & beneficial procedure.
Circumcised or not, you're still behaving like a complete prick.
Stephen
--
"First of all, you're going to need a live chicken and a working
knowledge of Latin..."
Stephen Farrow
>
> "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
> always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
> > Dr. Speedbyrd®
> >
>
> Dear Speedbyrd,
>
> What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
>
> I dare you to name someone more annoying.
>
> I _double_ dare you!!!
Easy. Larry Grayson. OK, so you'd have to be British to know who I'm
talking about, but he *is* more annoying than Jerry Lewis, scary as that
might seem.
Stephen
>
> --
> Meron Lavie
> la...@net2vision.net.il
> NOTE: THERE IS NO "2" IN MY REAL EMAIL ADDRESS: ANTI-SPAM!!!
--
Stephen Farrow
Tom Greene.
Stephen
>
> Tom Keener
> email me if you want my email address
--
Stephen Farrow
If this thread proves anything at all, it's that you are to wit what
doughnuts are to nutriton.
Stephen
Bushwhacker
>
> Tom Keener wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 30 May 2002 19:34:03 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
> > <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Meron Lavie wrote:
> > >>
> > >> "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
> > >> always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
> > >> > Dr. Speedbyrd®
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Dear Speedbyrd,
> > >>
> > >> What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
> > >>
> > >> I dare you to name someone more annoying.
> > >>
> > >> I _double_ dare you!!!
> > >
> > >Gilbert Gottfried? Carrot Top? Andrew Dice Clay? Kenny G?
> >
> > Sandra Bernhard
>
> Tom Greene.
>
And that name (ugh) reminds me, cringingly, of David Arquette.
darr...@aol.com
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<3CF615...@worldnet.att.net>...
> > > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> defense of circumcision as a simple, safe & beneficial procedure. FYI:>
<<And utterly useless, and harmful in the long run.>>
Peter, you obtained this misinformation from where!? DOH! Foreskin is
a cesspool for disease. A useless fold of skin that acts as a harbor
for every imaginable pathogen. There's a good reason why smegma,
balanitis and penile cancer (directly attributed to SMEGMA - shedding
of dead oily skin cells that become trapped within the foreskin folds)
are all practically unheard of in circumcised men. Uncircumcised men
are also at a higher risk for STDs. Foreskin is an open door for HIV.
During sex, the foreskin is pulled back down the shaft of the penis
and provides a large area of exposure to HIV from an
infected partner. The foreskin is also rich in a type of cell that
carries HIV directly to the T cells, the cells in which the virus
replicates itself. While circumcision alone will never prevent you
from acquiring HIV, it has been known to greatly reduce your odds of
being infected. In the end, circumcision is analogous to immunization,
in that side effects and complications are immediate and usually
minor, but benefits accrue for a lifetime. It's this simple: If
foreskin is so vital, why is it the only outer appendage that
consistently requires medical intervention? Can you name me any other
appendage that has to be manually retracted in order to properly
function? Foreskin is one of God's anatomical goofs!! It serves no
useful purpose (e.g. appendix, hymen, post umbilical cord & wisdom
teeth), other than to cause a lifetime of unwanted hassle and upkeep.
Not to mention that foreskin is foogly!eh It looks like a rodent
trapped inside of a garden hose!ehee It's an abomination on the
senses. continued...
> > circumcision is the safest & most common surgical procedure in all of
> > medicine, occurring more commonly than tooth extraction. I used the
> > "foreskinned Gentile" line because it sounded good!eeeheheeee However,
> > from your tone, I assumed you were European! eheh As you know, the
> > overwhelming majority of uncircumcised today are European Gentiles.>
> I rather doubt that, since "Europeans" are far from the "overwhelming
> majority" of humans.
DINK, as it stands, you have yet to be right!!eheh Once again, the
overwhelming majority of uncircumcised (key word) today are Europeans.
Why!? "There are many reasons for the general absence of circumcision
in Europe. Probably the
most important one is ignorance: most Europeans are not aware of the
fact that
circumcision is not only a religious rite, but is also performed for
health and
cultural reasons. The ignorance about circumcision is furthermore
enforced by
existing taboos, many of which are related to its religious
connotations. In
many European societies there is still a lingering, and often strong,
Anti-Semitic sentiment. Since being circumcised is perceived by most
Europeans
to be a sign of being Jewish (or Muslim), many parents will be
hesitant to
circumcise their sons for fear that they might be taunted or harassed
(or
worse). There are unfortunately enough harrowing cases in the news
about
skinheads attacking people as well as property that they regard as
being Jewish
to support this fear. However, there are signs that attitudes are
starting to
change. After the Second World War, and especially since the sixties,
there has
been a large influx of Muslim immigrants to Europe (people from India
and
Pakistan to Great Britian, North Africans to France, and Turks to
Germany).
Since these immigrants are mostly Muslim, and nowadays form a sizable
portion
of the population of the countries they live in, the subject of
circumcision
has become more broadly known through reports in the media. This, in
turn, has
laid the foundation for a more open discussion of the subject. As a
result,
many people have become interested in the subject, and circumcision
rates
amongst Europeans are starting to increase."
Bushwhacker
>
> Meron Lavie wrote:
> >
> > "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
> > always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
> > > Dr. Speedbyrd®
> > >
> >
> > Dear Speedbyrd,
> >
> > What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
> >
> > I dare you to name someone more annoying.
> >
> > I _double_ dare you!!!
>
> Easy. Larry Grayson. OK, so you'd have to be British to know who I'm
> talking about,
Some things are better left *un*known.
Stephen Farrow
Whose name, in turn, reminds me of his appallingly talentless wife.
Stephen
Stephen Farrow
Perhaps, but I don't see any reason why we Brits should suffer alone.
Stephen
Bushwhacker
>
> Bushwhacker wrote:
> >
> > Stephen Farrow wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom Keener wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 30 May 2002 19:34:03 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
> > > > <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >Meron Lavie wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
> > > > >> always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
> > > > >> > Dr. Speedbyrd®
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Dear Speedbyrd,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I dare you to name someone more annoying.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I _double_ dare you!!!
> > > > >
> > > > >Gilbert Gottfried? Carrot Top? Andrew Dice Clay? Kenny G?
> > > >
> > > > Sandra Bernhard
> > >
> > > Tom Greene.
> > >
> >
> > And that name (ugh) reminds me, cringingly, of David Arquette.
>
> Whose name, in turn, reminds me of his appallingly talentless wife.
>
But at least she, unlike the other two, is pleasant to look at.
Stephen Farrow
Granted, but eventually, inevitably, she opens her mouth and the bubble
bursts.
Tom Keener
<gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Tom Keener wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 30 May 2002 19:34:03 GMT, "Peter T. Daniels"
>> <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Meron Lavie wrote:
>> >>
>> >> "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
>> >> always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
>> >> > Dr. Speedbyrd®
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Dear Speedbyrd,
>> >>
>> >> What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
>> >>
>> >> I dare you to name someone more annoying.
>> >>
>> >> I _double_ dare you!!!
>> >
>> >Gilbert Gottfried? Carrot Top? Andrew Dice Clay? Kenny G?
>>
>> Sandra Bernhard
>
>But she has occasionally done good work -- for instance as a
>semi-regular on *Roseanne*.
Who is only slightly (call it a picometer) less annoying than
Bernhard. Sorry, I don't think Bernhard is capable of good work, but
if you actually watch "Rosanne", we obviously have different tastes.
Jerry Lewis, OTOH, has done some excellent work. See "Funny Bones",
for example, or his work on the TV show, "Wise Guy"; both serious
roles.
>> Tom Keener
>
>Sorry, I don't know who that is.
Send me a cashier's check for $873.95 and I'll tell you all about him.
Meron Lavie
news:3CF71D79...@chass.utoronto.ca...
But that reminds me of his marvelously pleasant, amusing and highly
intelligent _grandfather_ - Charlie Weaver (he was the only one on the old
Hollywood Squares who new all the correct answers by himself!)
Peter T. Daniels
> >> >> I dare you to name someone more annoying.
> >> >>
> >> >> I _double_ dare you!!!
> >> >
> >> >Gilbert Gottfried? Carrot Top? Andrew Dice Clay? Kenny G?
> >>
> >> Sandra Bernhard
> >
> >But she has occasionally done good work -- for instance as a
> >semi-regular on *Roseanne*.
>
> Who is only slightly (call it a picometer) less annoying than
> Bernhard. Sorry, I don't think Bernhard is capable of good work, but
> if you actually watch "Rosanne", we obviously have different tastes.
Well, not in about 10 years or so ...
> Jerry Lewis, OTOH, has done some excellent work. See "Funny Bones",
> for example, or his work on the TV show, "Wise Guy"; both serious
> roles.
Never saw 'em.
> >> Tom Keener
> >
> >Sorry, I don't know who that is.
>
> Send me a cashier's check for $873.95 and I'll tell you all about him.
That sounds like a lot more than scale.
Peter T. Daniels
> > > circumcision is the safest & most common surgical procedure in all of
> > > medicine, occurring more commonly than tooth extraction. I used the
> > > "foreskinned Gentile" line because it sounded good!eeeheheeee However,
> > > from your tone, I assumed you were European! eheh As you know, the
> > > overwhelming majority of uncircumcised today are European Gentiles.>
>
> > I rather doubt that, since "Europeans" are far from the "overwhelming
> > majority" of humans.
>
> DINK, as it stands, you have yet to be right!!eheh Once again, the
> overwhelming majority of uncircumcised (key word) today are Europeans.
Hey. Chauvinistic self-hating-Jew idiot.
The only significant communities of circumcisers in the world today are
Muslims and Americans. That leaves several billion Chinese and Hindus
(which right there enormously outnumber "Europeans") as only the largest
communities of non-circumcisers.
Peter T. Daniels
So ... now you're bragging on three of the four candidates for "more
annoying than Jerry Lewis"? How does that redound to the benefit of the
Jews?
And Carrot Top certainly isn't the Scott Thompson who was the openly gay
member of Kids in the Hall; since the name was already in use by a
professional actor, he(?) had to come up with a pseudonym. He(?) chose a
particularly annoying one.
Peter T. Daniels
>
> Bushwhacker wrote:
> >
> > Stephen Farrow wrote:
> > >
> > > Meron Lavie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
> > > > always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
> > > > > Dr. Speedbyrd®
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Speedbyrd,
> > > >
> > > > What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
> > > >
> > > > I dare you to name someone more annoying.
> > > >
> > > > I _double_ dare you!!!
> > >
> > > Easy. Larry Grayson. OK, so you'd have to be British to know who I'm
> > > talking about,
> >
> > Some things are better left *un*known.
>
> Perhaps, but I don't see any reason why we Brits should suffer alone.
But you've already sent us both The Two Ronnies _and_ Benny Hill. Can it
get more annoying than that??
Bob
Stephen Farrow wrote:
> Bushwhacker wrote:
> >
> > Stephen Farrow wrote:
> > >
> > > Meron Lavie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
> > > > always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
> > > > > Dr. Speedbyrd®
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Speedbyrd,
> > > >
> > > > What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
> > > >
> > > > I dare you to name someone more annoying.
> > > >
> > > > I _double_ dare you!!!
> > >
> > > Easy. Larry Grayson. OK, so you'd have to be British to know who I'm
> > > talking about,
> >
> > Some things are better left *un*known.
>
> Perhaps, but I don't see any reason why we Brits should suffer alone.
>
> Stephen
>
>
We helped you out in '17, and again in '41,
but I think THIS is going just a bit too far.
Now, get in another major war, and we will be at your side,
but don't push this guy on us.
;-)
Bob
Bob
Meron Lavie wrote:
Damn, sometimes I miss the letters from "Mount Idy".
Bob
Meron Lavie
news:3CF1BD34...@ix.netcom.com...
>
>
> Marcello Penso wrote:
>
> >
> > It's surprising for someone who professes to be Jewish to be making such
> > an unfounded and ridiculous argument.
> >
> > Marcello
>
> Not if you consider that Darrin my be trying to foment hatred of Jews by
being so obnoxious. ( Or perhaps he is a Palestinian Arab?)
>
> Bob
Bob,
I live in Israel, and have yet to meet a Palestinian Arab who even wanted to
make the Jews look as bad as Darrin wants to.
Meron Lavie
news:ea3caee5.02053...@posting.google.com...
> "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<3CF615...@worldnet.att.net>...
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
>
> > > foreskinned>
>
> > I wish. Are you among the millions of ignorami (many of whom include
> > Jewish "comedians") unaware that the vast majority of American men are
> > circumcised?
>
> Peter, over 60% of American newborns (regardless of ethnicity) are
> circumcised each and every year! I am one of the first to come to the
> medicine, occurring more commonly than tooth extraction. I used the
> "foreskinned Gentile" line because it sounded good!eeeheheeee However,
> from your tone, I assumed you were European! eheh As you know, the
> overwhelming majority of uncircumcised today are European Gentiles.
Sorry Darrin,
Recent research has shown that circumcision is of no benefit. In fact, the
research on which this fallacy (or should I say "phallusy" - am I on a role
or what?) lies is a shameful example of incompetent science.
The original research is from the middle of the previous century in the US.
They tested the rate of cervical cancer in Jewish women and compared it to
gentile women with non-circumcised husbands. Well, the Jewish rate was
lower. Now, what was their mistake? The control group should have been
Jewish women married to men who were not circumcised, but intermarriage was
rare then. It turns out that when they re-did the research correctly, the
Jewish women had the same incidence of cervical cancer with non-circumcised
partners.
Of course, you're probably now going to claim that the fact that Jewish
women have a lower rate of cervical cancer proves they're superior - I
should have known...
Meron Lavie
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:<3CF615...@worldnet.att.net>...
> > > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > > Peter, your jealous Gentile propaganda is rearing its ugly little
> > > > foreskinned>
> >
> > > I wish. Are you among the millions of ignorami (many of whom include
> > > Jewish "comedians") unaware that the vast majority of American men are
> > > circumcised?
> >
> > Peter, over 60% of American newborns (regardless of ethnicity) are
> > circumcised each and every year! I am one of the first to come to the
> > defense of circumcision as a simple, safe & beneficial procedure.
>
> Circumcised or not, you're still behaving like a complete prick.
>
> Stephen
Touché!
A Tsar Is Born
> "Three of the greatest comic book superheroes were
> created by Jews: Superman (Joe Shuster & Jerry Siegel), Batman (Bob
> Kane) & Spiderman (Stan Lee, b. Lieber)"
You forgot The Golem (Rabbi Loewe)
darr...@aol.com
Sorry Meron, but current medical research from this century (not from
the previous mid century! DOH!) finds that circumcision greatly
reduces the risk of cervical cancer and genital warts in the partners
of circumcised men. Read it and weep:
"Women who have sex with a circumcised man have lower rates of
cervical cancer, scientists have found. They also suggest men
themselves are less likely to develop genital warts.
In a study in the New England Journal of Medicine, they suggest the
health benefits could be because circumcised men are less likely to
pick up the human papillomavirus (HPV).
They suggest the virus is responsible for up to 99% of cases of
cervical cancer.
Commentators suggest that a general adoption of circumcision could cut
cervical cancer rates by 20%.
The general adoption of circumcision might lead to a further reduction
in the incidence of cancer of the cervix of 23% to 43%
Drs Adami and Trichopoulos
They add the risk of penile cancer, HIV and other infections could
also be reduced.
Regular condom use and proper hygiene were also ways infection risks
could be reduced, they said.
An HPV vaccine is also now being tested.
Previous research has also found uncircumcised men are at a much
greater risk of becoming infected with HIV from heterosexual sex than
circumcised men.
Cervical cancer killed around 1,250 UK women in 2000.
'Plausible explanation'
The researchers, led by Dr Xavier Castellsague of Llobregat Hospital
in Barcelona looked at data from seven studies from five countries
across the world.
They found HPV in nearly 20% of uncircumcised men, but in fewer than
6% of all circumcised men.
The researchers estimate that a woman's chance of developing cervical
cancer was at least 58% lower if their current partner was
circumcised, even if the partner had a history of multiple partners.
Writing in an editorial in the journal, Dr Hans-Olov Adami of the
Karolinska Institute in Stockholm and Dr Dimitrios Trichopoulos of the
Harvard School of Public Health said the idea "that circumcision may
reduce the risk of cervical cancer in the female partner has long been
suspected".
They said the new study "provides a biologically plausible
explanation."
They added: "If we assume that 25% of the men around the world are
circumcised, then the general adoption of circumcision might lead to a
further reduction in the incidence of cancer of the cervix of 23% to
43%".
But they admitted that advocating circumcision as a realistic and
significantly important addition to other strategies to combat
cervical cancer "remains to be documented".
But Cancer Research UK advises it had been thought women whose
partners were circumcised were less likely to get cervical cancer
because the secretions of the foreskin covering the penis in
uncircumcised men may be irritant to the cervix and so possibly a
factor in cervical cancer.
But it adds many now thought that as long as uncircumcised men are
careful about keeping their genitals clean, the risk of cervical
cancer in their partners should not be any greater than that for
circumcised men.
Cancer Research UK adds: "It is likely that this association has risen
because certain religious groups who practice circumcision, such as
the Jews, also have a low risk of cervical cancer due to low levels of
promiscuity."
Peter T. Daniels
> Sorry Meron, but current medical research from this century (not from
> the previous mid century! DOH!) finds that circumcision greatly
> reduces the risk of cervical cancer and genital warts in the partners
> of circumcised men. Read it and weep:
Plain ol' hygiene works just as well, is a lot less traumatic, and a lot
more fun.
Peter T. Daniels
>
> "Stephen Farrow" <sfa...@chass.utoronto.ca> wrote in message
> news:3CF71520...@chass.utoronto.ca...
> > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > "Peter T. Daniels" <gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:<3CF615...@worldnet.att.net>...
> > > > darr...@aol.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Peter, your jealous Gentile propaganda is rearing its ugly little
> > > > > foreskinned>
> > >
> > > > I wish. Are you among the millions of ignorami (many of whom include
> > > > Jewish "comedians") unaware that the vast majority of American men are
> > > > circumcised?
> > >
> > > Peter, over 60% of American newborns (regardless of ethnicity) are
> > > circumcised each and every year! I am one of the first to come to the
> > > defense of circumcision as a simple, safe & beneficial procedure.
> >
> > Circumcised or not, you're still behaving like a complete prick.
> >
> > Stephen
>
> Touché!
If he's circumcised, he is by definition not a complete prick.
Stephen Farrow
Unfortunately, yes it can! Aside from Grayson, there's Nicholas Parsons,
Bob Monkhouse, Paul Daniels... and that's without scraping the *real*
bottom of the barrel, where you'd find such notable entertainers as Gary
Wilmot and Tommy Steele. Though Steele, mercifully, has done very little
television. And then there's Cilla Black...
Stephen
> --
> Peter T. Daniels gram...@att.net
--
Tom Keener
<gram...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Tom Keener wrote:
>
>> Jerry Lewis, OTOH, has done some excellent work. See "Funny Bones",
>> for example,
>
>Never saw 'em.
Funny Bones is one of my favorite movies. The premise is that Oliver
Platt is the son of a comedian (Lewis). Platt's character bombs in his
debut on stage in Vegas, and goes back to Brighton, England to figure
out "what's funny". It has some of the most outrageously funny bits
I've ever seen on film, and some pretty horrific stuff, too. It looks
at what humor really is and how, so often, we find humor in tragedy.
>> >> Tom Keener
>> >
>> >Sorry, I don't know who that is.
>>
>> Send me a cashier's check for $873.95 and I'll tell you all about him.
>
>That sounds like a lot more than scale.
For you, I'll make a deal. 10% off, but I'll have to leave out the
X-rated parts.
Peter T. Daniels
>
> Peter T. Daniels wrote:
> >
> > Stephen Farrow wrote:
> > >
> > > Bushwhacker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Stephen Farrow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Meron Lavie wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Dr. Speedbyrd:>" <hav...@aol.com> wrote in message > Jerry Lewis is, and
> > > > > > always has been, one of the most annoying personalities in show business.
> > > > > > > Dr. Speedbyrd®
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Speedbyrd,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What exactly do you mean by "one of the most annoying"???
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I dare you to name someone more annoying.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I _double_ dare you!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Easy. Larry Grayson. OK, so you'd have to be British to know who I'm
> > > > > talking about,
> > > >
> > > > Some things are better left *un*known.
> > >
> > > Perhaps, but I don't see any reason why we Brits should suffer alone.
> >
> > But you've already sent us both The Two Ronnies _and_ Benny Hill. Can it
> > get more annoying than that??
>
> Unfortunately, yes it can! Aside from Grayson, there's Nicholas Parsons,
> Bob Monkhouse, Paul Daniels... and that's without scraping the *real*
> bottom of the barrel, where you'd find such notable entertainers as Gary
> Wilmot and Tommy Steele. Though Steele, mercifully, has done very little
> television. And then there's Cilla Black...
Fortunately, I suppose, I've never heard of any of those except possibly
Tommy Steele -- was he in *Mary Poppins* or *Oliver* or some such,
nearly 40 years ago?
darr...@aol.com
> darr...@aol.com wrote:
Peter, when you have foreskin that continually traps smegma, washing
proves futile. Soap (irritant) can actually exacerbate the existing
infection. You can wash your smelly little PUTZ like an incessant
marsupial in the wild, and it shall never prevent the accumulation of
dead oily skin cells (amongst other lovely pathogens) that become
trapped within the foreskin folds. e.g. Phimosis (inability to retract
foreskin) affects 2-10% of uncircumcised infants & adult
males. The narrow foreskin opening causes urinary obstruction that can
be partial or complete. Backward pressure to the kidney may impede its
function and lead to high blood pressure, which is associated with
increased risk of heart attack and stroke. What sane person wants to
even chance this!?Circumcised men do not have to worry about Phimosis,
because there is no prepuce (aka a useless flap of skin). Once again,
can you name me any other outer appendage on the human anatomy that
has to be manually retracted in order to function properly!? DOH!
Peter, it's not brain surgery. Remove foreskin, and you have removed
the harbor for foreskin-related infections. Remember, the proponents
(mostly comprised of raving anti-circers) of not circumcising
nevertheless stress that lifelong penile hygiene is required. This
acknowledges that something harmful or unpleasant is happening under
the prepuce. Studies of middle class British and Scandanavian
schoolboys concluded that penile hygiene, as such, is at best poor and
at worst non-existent. Furthermore, Dr Terry Russell, an Australian
medical practitioner states 'What man after a night of passion is
going to perform penile hygiene before rolling over and snoring the
night away (with pathogenic organisms multiplying in the warm moist
environment under the prepuce)'. The bacteria start multiplying again
immediately after washing and contribute, along with skin secretions,
to the whitish film, termed 'smegma' (cancerogenic), that is found
under the foreskin. Bacteria give off an offensive odour. Men differ
in their sensitivity to this smell and some shower several times a day
as a result. Some uncircumcised men, and/or their partners, find the
stench so unpleasant that this smell has caused these men to seek a
circumcision on this basis alone. For mothers and fathers, it is far
easier to maintain cleanliness of their son's penis if it is
circumcised.
Bert Morris
snip
>
> Peter, when you have foreskin that continually traps smegma, washing
> proves futile.
snip
Gentlemen! Thanks for the hygiene lesson! We're ALL so very grateful.
Now, would you please take this thread to 'rec.arts.penis.pathogens'
where it belongs?
(Washin' it here, boss!)
Regards,
Bert
darr...@aol.com
> I am not Jewish, but agree that if not were
> for the Jewish movie pioneers, America as
> the world capitol for their production would
> not exist as it does today. As a teacher of
> film history, I say right on to those who know
> their film history. There are those who deny
> the holocaust took place. Right on darren!
> Ed- Boston
See, who says I don't have "teachers" and "professors" in my
corner!?eheh Waving to BOB!eheheheheheh LOL! Ed, I couldn't have said
it better myself!! Once again, by refusing to acknowledge the
undeniable influence that Jews have (and continue to have) on American
& world culture, BOB (et al) perpetuates the same racial injustice
that he himself claims to abhor. -D, NYC "80% of Darren's spell it
with an "e" not "i". Often imitated but never duplicated. Why settle
for Dick Sargent when you can have Dick York!?eh Which DICK do you
prefer?" ehe
Bob
how...@brazee.net wrote:
> One thing that we all can learn from Darrin - what jingoism looks like to
> the rest of the world. It is very easy for Americans to make enemies simply
> by pointing out what we think is right about our country and what's wrong
> with other countries.
>
> Don't be a Darrin.
Seconded.
Bob
darr...@aol.com
<<One thing we can all learn from Darrin - what jingoism looks like to
the rest of the world. It is very easy for Americans to make enemies
simply by pointing out what we think is right about our country and
what's wrong with other countries>>
Ah, but America's right has always been the purveyor to the rest of
the world! America is still the most powerful & influential nation in
the world. Who ya gonna call when your country is in dire straits!?
America, that's who! Ironically, those same enemies (who need no valid
reason to despise us) share the same political ideology as you! They
are jealous of the most powerful and influential nation in the world.
Just as you are jealous of the most powerful & influential religion in
the world - JUDAISM! eh BTW, while I am more than capable of fending
off the CYBER WACK PACKERS, where is my RIGHTEOUS GENTILE, TOM
SUTPEN!?ehehh One of the few users who always had the CHUTZPA to come
to my defense. ehee If nothing else, I just wanted to show that not
everyone is as touchy-feely as HOWIE!ehehe -D, NYC "...We'll have
Manhattan the Bronx and
Staten Island too. It's lovely going through the zoo with you..." -
'Manhattan' - RODGERS & HART (New York's very own sweet Jews)
Stephen Farrow
>
> One thing that we all can learn from Darrin - what jingoism looks like to
> the rest of the world. It is very easy for Americans to make enemies simply
> by pointing out what we think is right about our country and what's wrong
>
> Don't be a Darrin.
And Don't Be The Bunny, either.
Stephen
Meron Lavie
Darrin may be an anti-Semite agent provocateur. He may be a real Jew with a
warped sense of self-identity and no sense at all of the dangers of ethnic
generalizations. I don't think it really matters either way.
I am proud that this group uniformly condemned both his message and his
style.
As we all know, Andy Warhol once commented that everyone has his 15 minutes
of fame. I believe Darrin has been given that, and much more - _far_ too
much more. And as much as it is his fault, it is even more _our_ fault. As
my late grandmother often said: "The fact that a jackass brays doesn't mean
that you have to listen." And I would add to that that you certainly don't
have to answer!
I think enough is enough. The Book of Proverbs states: "Do not answer a fool
lest you seem his equal". I do not intend to be considered Darrin's equal,
and therefore shall cease to respond to him.
I would humbly suggest that others in RATM follow suit.
Tom Keener
<la...@net2vision.net.il> wrote:
>I think enough is enough. The Book of Proverbs states: "Do not answer a fool
>lest you seem his equal". I do not intend to be considered Darrin's equal,
>and therefore shall cease to respond to him.
>
>I would humbly suggest that others in RATM follow suit.
Many of us figured that out a _long_ time ago.
ILK
<la...@net2vision.net.il> wrote:
>I think enough is enough. The Book of Proverbs states: "Do not answer a fool
>lest you seem his equal". I do not intend to be considered Darrin's equal,
>and therefore shall cease to respond to him.
>I would humbly suggest that others in RATM follow suit.
>Meron Lavie
The least wise proverb in the book. For one simple reason. No man
thinks HE is a fool.
ilk..
(PS: Let me make it VERY clear I do not disagree with you about this
Darrin fellow.)
Dawn Taylor
Meron Lavie wrote:
>The Book of Proverbs states: "Do not answer a fool
>lest you seem his equal".
Well, that's gonna take all the fun out Usenet, now isn't it?
Dawn
Bob
Meron Lavie wrote:
Recommend the same action for all groups.
Bob
ILK
<autorespo...@usenet.org> wrote:
>Congratulations, idiot. You've just given him even more attention.
>The people who respond to him reliably respond to all trolls. Your
>quest is a futile one. Go and sin no more.
You mean... kind of ... I dunno... like YOU!
plonk
ILK
<autorespo...@usenet.org> wrote:
>I am giving you attention, but you are not a troll, just an idiot.
>There is some hope that you can be taught, whereas a troll is acting
>purposefully and is not going to listen to advice. On the other hand,
>you may be too dumb to take it, but there is always a 1 in a million
>chance.
What are your requirements for idiocy? You teach me? Possible. Not
likely. Sure sign of an idiot is someone who thinks they have
something to teach people who do not agree with them. You don't seem
dumb. But you don't agree with me. That's fine. Be a man...(or a
woman?) This is USENET. Get over yourself. It's freeing.
ilk...
John Harrington
wrote on 6/4/02 4:50 PM:
> On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 19:18:23 GMT, Usenet Autoresponder
> <autorespo...@usenet.org> wrote:
>
>> I am giving you attention, but you are not a troll, just an idiot.
>> There is some hope that you can be taught, whereas a troll is acting
>> purposefully and is not going to listen to advice. On the other hand,
>> you may be too dumb to take it, but there is always a 1 in a million
>> chance.
>
> What are your requirements for idiocy?
Claiming to plonk someone and then replying to him is high on my list.
J
ILK
Your parents must be very proud. Congradulations. It was an OOPS.
*sigh*