"Avatar" panic setting in
RichA
they've shown it to test audiences or what their reaction has been) is
doing a number on the studio. FOX is showing some kind of "Avatar
specials" during TV shows. Oh the pain!
jessica_smith_nyc
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jenniannie
Why would it tank, it seems to be a great movie!
Thomas Hejl Pilgaard
dbcf9527-9738-461f...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com :
We have a few conspiracy loons in the channel here, who seems to think
that movies shouldn't be advertised. They should simply be in the cinema,
and if you never checked your local listings, you would never know about
the movie.
Apparantly, they believe that advertising a movie in any way means that
the studio is in a panic, fearing that no one will go see it unless they
shove it down people's throat.
In essence, their conspiracy theory is: Advertisement = Panic!
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
I do have to say that the trailer I saw made it look like another "We're the
bad guys movie", which didn't fill me with enthuiasm to see it..
Ted
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RichA
Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
> jenniannie <youngw...@hotmail.com> declared in:
> dbcf9527-9738-461f...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com :
> > On Nov 9, 7:06 pm, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> The idea of a $300M film that might tank (though I have no idea if
> >> they've shown it to test audiences or what their reaction has been)
> >> is doing a number on the studio. FOX is showing some kind of "Avatar
> >> specials" during TV shows. Oh the pain!
> >
> > Why would it tank, it seems to be a great movie!
>
> We have a few conspiracy loons in the channel here, who seems to think
> that movies shouldn't be advertised. They should simply be in the cinema,
> and if you never checked your local listings, you would never know about
> the movie.
Don't be dull. Advertising is one thing, doing spots that show nearly
EVERY vital scene in the movie is PANIC. What's next, some cheezy
"covert" campaign to make some trailer go "viral" on the net? It
didn't work with "The Fourth Kind." Or maybe they'll start doing the
fake, "man in the street" interviews with breathless fans (before the
movie is released!!) about how great it was?
Tom
though I have no idea...
Truer words were never written by you, RIch.
Tom
trotsky
>
> Thomas Hejl Pilgaard wrote:
>> jenniannie <youngw...@hotmail.com> declared in:
>> dbcf9527-9738-461f...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com :
>>> On Nov 9, 7:06 pm, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> The idea of a $300M film that might tank (though I have no idea if
>>>> they've shown it to test audiences or what their reaction has been)
>>>> is doing a number on the studio. FOX is showing some kind of "Avatar
>>>> specials" during TV shows. Oh the pain!
>>> Why would it tank, it seems to be a great movie!
>> We have a few conspiracy loons in the channel here, who seems to think
>> that movies shouldn't be advertised. They should simply be in the cinema,
>> and if you never checked your local listings, you would never know about
>> the movie.
>
> Don't be dull. Advertising is one thing, doing spots that show nearly
> EVERY vital scene in the movie is PANIC.
Just like "TITANIC"--the highest grossing FILM in the HISTORY of MOVIES.
You are a stupid TROLL that gets more worthless every week.
moviePig
For whatever reason, the prevalent Hollywood marketing model seems
aimed to create demand that splinters lobby doors on opening day. I
personally think it may be a model that hasn't been well researched.
Clearly, though, it's at work here ...and is probably even further
concentrated by a wish to purge DISNEY'S CHRISTMAS CAROL from the
public's inbox -- all planned long ago...
...and none of which has any predictive value of the quality of
AVATAR. (As to whether there's worry that a $300m investment might
tank: You think?)
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nick
> > dbcf9527-9738-461f-a767-ac35079b5...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com :
They could always get the Geico Gecko to help out.
RichA
I think studio lives have hung in the balance over less.
RichA
Honestly don't remember that. Must have been a LOOOOONG trailer to
showcase every major scene in a nearly 4-hour long movie though!
gerry
James Cameron has a record of overspending and making up for budget
overruns with big box office grosses. Fox has already sold enough
distribution and other rights to Avatar that its losses are limited if
the movie tanks. Avatar should do great in Japan and the Far East,
where anime is popular. Avatar may turn out to be another Golden
Compass, whose overseas box office almost tripled US box office
receipts. The worst case scenario would be if Avatar under performs
like Watchmen, a movie without "legs" at home and which didn't do very
well in most foreign markets, as I recall.
Avatar should break even on its initial relese and eventually make a
profit from DVD and cable sales. I doubt that Avatar will be number 1
at the box office for almost 4 months like Titanic. Maybe 4 weeks.
But a weak dollar means that whatever foreign earnings Avatar makes,
they will seem like a lot more when converted to US dollars.
jenniannie
wrote:
> In article <005ff87b$0$1430$c3e8...@news.astraweb.com>,
> Thomas Hejl Pilgaard <t.pilga...@adslhome.dk.dk> wrote:
>
>
>
> >jenniannie <youngwrite...@hotmail.com> declared in:
> >dbcf9527-9738-461f-a767-ac35079b5...@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com :
> >>> The idea of a $300M film that might tank (though I have no idea if
> >>> they've shown it to test audiences or what their reaction has been)
> >>> is doing a number on the studio. FOX is showing some kind of "Avatar
> >>> specials" during TV shows. Oh the pain!
>
> >> Why would it tank, it seems to be a great movie!
>
> >We have a few conspiracy loons in the channel here, who seems to think
> >that movies shouldn't be advertised. They should simply be in the cinema,
> >and if you never checked your local listings, you would never know about
> >the movie.
>
> >Apparantly, they believe that advertising a movie in any way means that
> >the studio is in a panic, fearing that no one will go see it unless they
> >shove it down people's throat.
>
> >In essence, their conspiracy theory is: Advertisement = Panic!
>
> I do have to say that the trailer I saw made it look like another "We're the
> bad guys movie", which didn't fill me with enthuiasm to see it..
>
> Ted
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> What's not in Columbia anymore..
Yes, I saw that too, and same reaction, but I love the
cinematography / computer colors / and the downloading into creature
thing.
MFalc1
Remember in late fall of 1997 when everyone thought TITANIC would
bomb?
Mark L. Falconer
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http://www.youtube.com/terrymcca
nick
> On Nov 9, 6:06 pm, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The idea of a $300M film that might tank (though I have no idea if
> > they've shown it to test audiences or what their reaction has been) is
> > doing a number on the studio. FOX is showing some kind of "Avatar
> > specials" during TV shows. Oh the pain!
>
> Remember in late fall of 1997 when everyone thought TITANIC would
> bomb?
>
had two things going for it that Avatar doesn't: the Titanic and Leo
Di Caprio. We didn't know how popular Leo was going into the release
of Titanic. Our male geek biasing gave us the line that the love
story would be boring but people would show up for the sinking of the
ship. But whatever happens to Avatar, it won't have Leo and it won't
have months of Titanic-mania fueled staying power. Remember that
first weekend, the question was which would do better: Titanic or the
latest Bond and for that first week it was kind of close. Cameron's
massive hits have been with recognizable properties--Aliens,
Terminator 2, Titanic. When he deviates from that with The Abyss or
True Lies, things get more erratic.
trotsky
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=truelies.htm
Production budget: 115 million
Worldwide gross: 378 million
Any movie that can net a quarter of a billion dollars worldwide has to
have movie exec.'s laughing till they wet their pants, to paraphrase Lou
Reed. It would seem unlikely that Avatar could net this much profit
based on how much it costs, but I think the whole scope of what makes
movies money has changed since '94, and they thing might actually
produce a billion dollars in revenue when all marketing avenues are
considered. Bottom line is Rich made yet another stupid post to get
attention.
moviePig
ABYSS, in particular, does seem like the comparator here ...as a high-
tech movie of a pro-environment thriller. (TRUE LIES was star-
powered, minus TITANIC's post-adolescent female hormone surge.) But
I'm also looking for AVATAR's box office to have a POLAR EXPRESS
component, i.e., with very long Imax-3D legs...
RichA
True Lies was a revelation. A terrific action movie with HUMANS in it
and a great showcase for cutting-edge FX, amazing FX. Avacrap is
neither.
RichA
I loved the Abyss, but was in a small group that did. IMO, Avatar has
even less going for it.
Thomas Hejl Pilgaard
80f83017-b0e7-43ed...@a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com :
> On Nov 9, 9:06 pm, RichA <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The idea of a $300M film that might tank (though I have no idea if
>> they've shown it to test audiences or what their reaction has been)
>> is doing a number on the studio. FOX is showing some kind of "Avatar
>> specials" during TV shows. Oh the pain!
>
> James Cameron has a record of overspending and making up for budget
> overruns with big box office grosses. Fox has already sold enough
> distribution and other rights to Avatar that its losses are limited if
> the movie tanks. Avatar should do great in Japan and the Far East,
> where anime is popular. Avatar may turn out to be another Golden
> Compass, whose overseas box office almost tripled US box office
> receipts.
Aaaw... You had to bring up The Golden Compass.
I'm still disappointed they decided against making the sequels. I
thoroughly enjoyed that movie.
> The worst case scenario would be if Avatar under performs
> like Watchmen, a movie without "legs" at home and which didn't do very
> well in most foreign markets, as I recall.
Well, everything is relative, but it did indeed come in under costs.
Even though I have no doubt they made up for the difference in other
sales (dvd's etc).
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=watchmen.htm
> Avatar should break even on its initial relese and eventually make a
> profit from DVD and cable sales. I doubt that Avatar will be number 1
> at the box office for almost 4 months like Titanic. Maybe 4 weeks.
> But a weak dollar means that whatever foreign earnings Avatar makes,
> they will seem like a lot more when converted to US dollars.
Good point.
Thumper
Given that Titanic was a story in which nearly everyone knew the
ending (or at least thought they knew) it was a terrific film. It
actually made you forget you were watching an old story.
Thumper
Madara0806
TRUE LIES was a fascist movie, about forcible government intervention
into innocent people's private lives, including the kidnapping and
detention of an innocent person under false pretexts. The movie that
paved the way for Abu Ghraib and rendition. Of course you like it,
Rich.
trotsky
So you've reviewed without seeing it just like "The Fourth Kind"? Will
you at least admit to how much of an idiot you sound?