Well, NETFLIX just committed SUICIDE...
Somebody
(currently only Warner Bros releases, but other studios "soon") to let sales
build up??? If so, Netflix just committed utter suicide. Who the f*ck is
going to wait a month to rent a movie from Netflix when they can go
somewhere else and rent it immediately? I don't understand why Netflix would
do something so, so, so, so stupid??
I hope this doesn't become a trend for the brick and mortar places as well.
Otherwise, the entire rental business just committed suicide and the piracy
business is just getting started :).
MFalc1
Wondering if this same embargo will apply to pay-per-view of WB
product
on Time Warner Cable.
Mark L. Falconer
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Sir Blob
there's no business in ''piracy'', which is why it exists
moviePig
Not 'suicide' ...more like experimental self-mutilation.
Netflix, obviously, has been an attractive deal for us ...and, with
this, it's hard to argue (i.e., to spin) that the deal hasn't stepped
off a small cliff. Blithely or not, they've tossed away the
competitive rights that Redbox just fought tooth-and-nail to keep. I
suspect that a recovery program may lie in Netflix's future... to
avoid their becoming cast as the dvd industry's clearance bin...
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AZ Nomad
>Am I hearing right? Netflix will no longer offer new releases for 28 days
>(currently only Warner Bros releases, but other studios "soon") to let sales
>build up??? If so, Netflix just committed utter suicide. Who the f*ck is
>going to wait a month to rent a movie from Netflix when they can go
>somewhere else and rent it immediately? I don't understand why Netflix would
>do something so, so, so, so stupid??
How will anybody notice? I've had to wait 4 months for a new release.
Invid Fan
AZ Nomad <azno...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
Same here. It's not like we're getting these things mailed the day
they're released anyways, and the whole point of Netflix is you don't
care exactly what movie you get when.
--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'
Evelyn Leeper
> In article <slrnhkbru0.4...@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net>,
> AZ Nomad <azno...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 21:22:25 -0800, Somebody <some...@cox.net> wrote:
>>> Am I hearing right? Netflix will no longer offer new releases for 28 days
>>> (currently only Warner Bros releases, but other studios "soon") to let sales
>>> build up??? If so, Netflix just committed utter suicide. Who the f*ck is
>>> going to wait a month to rent a movie from Netflix when they can go
>>> somewhere else and rent it immediately? I don't understand why Netflix would
>>> do something so, so, so, so stupid??
>> How will anybody notice? I've had to wait 4 months for a new release.
>
> Same here. It's not like we're getting these things mailed the day
> they're released anyways, and the whole point of Netflix is you don't
> care exactly what movie you get when.
>
And many of us want the ability to find older films, or foreign films,
or something *other* than the latest release.
--
Evelyn C. Leeper
Man is the only animal for whom his own existence is a problem
which he has to solve. -Erich Fromm
moviePig
> > AZ Nomad <aznoma...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:
>
> >> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 21:22:25 -0800, Somebody <someb...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> Am I hearing right? Netflix will no longer offer new releases for 28 days
> >>> (currently only Warner Bros releases, but other studios "soon") to let sales
> >>> build up??? If so, Netflix just committed utter suicide. Who the f*ck is
> >>> going to wait a month to rent a movie from Netflix when they can go
> >>> somewhere else and rent it immediately? I don't understand why Netflix would
> >>> do something so, so, so, so stupid??
> >> How will anybody notice? I've had to wait 4 months for a new release.
>
> > Same here. It's not like we're getting these things mailed the day
> > they're released anyways, and the whole point of Netflix is you don't
> > care exactly what movie you get when.
>
> And many of us want the ability to find older films, or foreign films,
> or something *other* than the latest release.
Still, it'll be plain to subscribers that something's being taken in
return for nothing given.
Of course, Netflix's original model was, "You list it and we'll charge
you when we send it." And, though few were pleased when they shifted
to the current N-at-a-time pseudo-queues ...it seems to have worked
out well for them. So, who knows?
Nevertheless, while Warner Bros. - like the sorcerer's apprentice - is
invoking its new-found powers, it might want to notice than nobody in
the focus group of *this* little thread has indicated a personal
intention now to buy more DVDs...
lorinc...@yahoo.com
When I belonged to Netflix, I had very little luck getting new
releases in the first month anyway. What Netflix is good for is TV
series and catalog titles. Like for instance, you get a hankering to
see "The Final Countdown," or someone mentions they made a sequel to
"Chinatown" called the "Two Jakes" and you somehow missed the news.
Bam! Netflix is your friend.
For new releases? Well, I don't pay any attention to dates, I just
see what's in the Redbox when I wander up to it. For $1, it don't
matter if the movie ends up sucking.
-beaumon
moviePig
> moviePig wrote:
> >Netflix, obviously, has been an attractive deal for us ...and, with
> >this, it's hard to argue (i.e., to spin) that the deal hasn't stepped
> >off a small cliff. Blithely or not, they've tossed away the
> >competitive rights that Redbox just fought tooth-and-nail to keep.
> >I suspect that a recovery program may lie in Netflix's future...
> >to avoid their becoming cast as the dvd industry's clearance bin...
>
>
> Two of the first new releases affected by the deal with WB are
> "The Invention of Lying" and "Whiteout". The closest redboxes with
> those not 'checked out' are 34 and 49 miles away from me (81501).
>
> Anyone able to rent those yet, and which rental service had them?
For 4 bucks, you can apparently download either from Amazon.
weary flake
Downloading is a joke. Tell me the size of an amazon movie
download: are they the 4 to 8 gigabytes of data contained on
a DVD, or are they a tiny fraction of that?
Obveeus
"Brian Kraft" <bkr...@nyx.net> wrote:
> So are you guys doing this to watch The Invention of Lying or Whiteout?
> Or is $4 too much? Redbox still isn't a good option for them - drive
> more than 10 miles to the closest kiosk, only to find it checked out?
1. I must have a dozen or more Redboxes within 10 miles of me.
2. Redbox allows you to reserve the movie before you make the drive, so
there is no reason to make the drive in vain..
weary flake
> weary flake wrote:
>
> >Downloading is a joke. Tell me the size of an amazon movie
> >download: are they the 4 to 8 gigabytes of data contained on
> >a DVD, or are they a tiny fraction of that?
>
> Find the movie on Amazon, scroll down and hover on the video format
> details. There are enough options to make you happy for your $4.
>
> Rental download is 2.2 GB with 5.1 audio.
> Rental view online has 2.0 audio.
"PC Download", whatever that is, says 2.2 GB. I suspect that
"PC Download" refers to a purchase and not a rental. It is
still a lower bitrate than a DVD. The other "options", which
I suspect are the rentals, "Online Viewing" and "portable device"
have extremely low bit rates, and anyone who even implies that
they are preferable to renting a DVD, like journalists regularly
do, have something wrong with them. I don't know what "tivo box"
is but is similar in size to "PC Download".
At least Amazon gives sizes of the files, or so it seems, most
sites that promise "digital versions" of DVDs are white-hot liars.
Invid Fan
flake <weary...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> At least Amazon gives sizes of the files, or so it seems, most
> sites that promise "digital versions" of DVDs are white-hot liars.
What do they let you download, analog versions?
In any case, never blame the site as it's the studios that decide what
to give them to sell.
Obveeus
"Brian Kraft" <bkr...@nyx.net> wrote:
> Thanks for making that point, I now understand that renting online will
> reserve the copy. Not that I want to, I'm just debating Netflix's
> business decision.
As a business, Netflix and Redbox make a whole lot more sense than
Blockbuster. If either or both permanently adapt a 30 day delay on new
releases will it really make that much difference? If people were itching
to see a movie, they would have seen it in the theater. If people were
itching to own a movie, they can just buy it from Amazon (or wal-mart or
whatever). Will a 30 day delay really effect anything other than perhaps
some movies that didn't air in the USA? Maybe some pay-cable releases...if
Netflix isn't already compromising those by offering edited versions rather
than the real thing.