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Tom

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Nov 4, 2012, 10:24:56 PM11/4/12
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moviePig

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Nov 4, 2012, 10:53:30 PM11/4/12
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On Nov 4, 10:24 pm, Tom <drso...@aol.com> wrote:
> This is really incredible...
>
> http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-fro...

His head may belong in a jar(-jar), but I guess his heart's sure in
the right place...

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Rich

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Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote in
news:05c7f292-faf4-4f7c...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
Rockafeller used to give dimes to strangers on the street...

BTR1701

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Nov 5, 2012, 1:20:38 AM11/5/12
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In article
<05c7f292-faf4-4f7c...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Goes a long way toward making up for Greedo shooting first.

Ubiquitous

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Nov 5, 2012, 5:37:34 AM11/5/12
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And you posted this off-topic aericle here because?

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Stone me

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"Tom" <drs...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I'd love to know how and where such money might be used,
and what results could be expected.
For example, the things that affect general attainment at
school could be teacher-pupil ratio, class discipline,
a form of discipline which ensures maximum attendance,
School morale/leadership, amongst many other details.
Important things which may be impossible to alter are
average socio-economic levels in classes, and overall at schools.
At such times there is always a hard look at the quality of
teaching, too. Whith the usual expected academic attainment,
and teaching specific courses, it's the general morale and leadership
which must be reponsible, rather than individual teachers.

Picking bright pupils from ghettoes makes news headlines but
never aims to alter the status quo. If too many are chosen, then
you can expect parents of those whose places they take, to use
their connections to end it.

Best of luck to George.

Stone me.

trotsky

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Nov 5, 2012, 7:11:15 AM11/5/12
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Dems can do stuff like this.

moviePig

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Nov 5, 2012, 8:39:52 AM11/5/12
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On Nov 5, 6:30 am, "Stone me" <m...@hollywood.com> wrote:
> "Tom" <drso...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:05c7f292-faf4-4f7c...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...> This is really incredible...
>
> >http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-fro...
>
> > Tom
>
> I'd love to know how and where such money might be used,
> and what results could be expected.
> For example, the things that affect general attainment at
> school could be teacher-pupil ratio, class discipline,
> a form of discipline which ensures maximum attendance,
> School morale/leadership, amongst many other details.
> Important things which may be impossible to alter are
> average socio-economic levels in classes, and overall at schools.
> At such times there is always a hard look at the quality of
> teaching, too. Whith the usual expected academic attainment,
> and teaching specific courses, it's the general morale and leadership
> which must be reponsible, rather than individual teachers.
>
> Picking bright pupils from ghettoes makes news headlines but
> never aims to alter the status quo. If too many are chosen, then
> you can expect parents of those whose places they take, to use
> their connections to end it.
>
> Best of luck to George.

If we think of "picking bright pupils from ghettos" as culling
potential world-improving geniuses from our underprivileged masses,
then it seems an exploitation of our natural resources that makes far
more sense than, say, drilling in ANWR...

Alan

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Nov 5, 2012, 9:01:01 AM11/5/12
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"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
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> drs...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>This is really incredible...
>>
>>http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-from-sale-of-lucas-films-to-foundation-focused-on-educatio
> n/#axzz2BGrxZCZW
>
> And you posted this off-topic aericle here because?

See http://dictionary.reference.com/ and check for "aericle" !!!

Don't you read what you type?

Tom

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Nov 5, 2012, 10:29:01 AM11/5/12
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On Nov 5, 8:01 am, "Alan" <a...@nowhere.org> wrote:
> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
>
> news:k7851a$q7q$3...@dont-email.me...
>
> > drso...@aol.com wrote:
>
> >>This is really incredible...
>
> >>http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-fro...
> > n/#axzz2BGrxZCZW
>
> > And you posted this off-topic aericle here because?
>
> Seehttp://dictionary.reference.com/and check for "aericle" !!!
>
> Don't you read what you type?

Ubi can't read or write.

Tom

Tom

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Nov 5, 2012, 10:29:27 AM11/5/12
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On Nov 5, 4:39 am, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> drso...@aol.com wrote:
> >This is really incredible...
>
> >http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-fro...
>
> n/#axzz2BGrxZCZW
>
> And you posted this off-topic aericle here because?
>
> --


Where is here, Douchie?

Tom

trotsky

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Nov 5, 2012, 10:34:26 AM11/5/12
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I'm pretty sure he can't 'rithmetic, either.

calvin

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Nov 5, 2012, 10:48:28 AM11/5/12
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On Nov 5, 8:39 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> If we think of "picking bright pupils from ghettos" as culling
> potential world-improving geniuses from our underprivileged masses,
> then it seems an exploitation of our natural resources that makes far
> more sense than, say, drilling in ANWR...

It's not either/or.

JRStern

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Nov 5, 2012, 11:02:31 AM11/5/12
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Well, that's nice.

Will George still have enough cash to buy groceries?

Actually it's not all quite as selfless as you might think. Avoids a
lot of taxes. You put it in a foundation, then the foundation pays
you a management/consulting fee (so you can buy groceries, and houses,
and private jets), pays your kids and friends and neighbors consulting
fees - the money in the foundation still buys stocks and bonds but now
the profits are all tax-free. Nice, huh.

This is instead of paying taxes, where the money might help with
schools and stuff in the normal matter. Instead, working folks pay
with their taxes, cuz they don't have private foundations to hide
their money in.

J.


trotsky

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Nov 5, 2012, 11:37:24 AM11/5/12
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On 11/5/12 10:02 AM, JRStern wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:24:56 -0800 (PST), Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> This is really incredible...
>>
>> http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-from-sale-of-lucas-films-to-foundation-focused-on-education/#axzz2BGrxZCZW
>>
>> Tom
>
>
> Well, that's nice.
>
> Will George still have enough cash to buy groceries?
>
> Actually it's not all quite as selfless as you might think. Avoids a
> lot of taxes.


What percentage of the possible 4 billion dollar income do you think
he's avoiding?

JRStern

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Nov 5, 2012, 2:15:32 PM11/5/12
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Hard to say without being his accountant.

Somewhere between 10% and 50%.

There might also be some debts to be paid off, and half the
compensation is stock not cash so it's an exchange and not a gain,
yada yada.

But as a foundation it goes on like that every year, it's not even a
one-time thing.

It's not quite as sleazy as putting it all in the Cayman Islands, but
it's the next thing over. If you have big money, you are going to be
doing one or the other or something like it.

J.



RichA

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Nov 5, 2012, 2:28:18 PM11/5/12
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On Nov 4, 10:24 pm, Tom <drso...@aol.com> wrote:
> This is really incredible...
>
> http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-fro...
>
> Tom

Notice on that signatory list at the end, people promising to give 50%
of their income to charity on their death, they are mostly Anglos,
some Jews and NO OTHERS? Typical. I was at a kind of forest park in
Toronto. There is a bronze plaque on the wall in a building there
showing donors to the site. ALL Anglos and Jews despite the fact 70%
of the people who use the park are Orientals. No surprise. 3rd
F------- worlders do not believe in charity.

moviePig

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Nov 5, 2012, 3:18:04 PM11/5/12
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On Nov 5, 2:15 pm, JRStern <JRSt...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:37:24 -0600, trotsky <gmsi...@email.com> wrote:
> >On 11/5/12 10:02 AM, JRStern wrote:
> >> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:24:56 -0800 (PST), Tom <drso...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>> This is really incredible...
>
> >>>http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-fro...
>
> >>> Tom
>
> >> Well, that's nice.
>
> >> Will George still have enough cash to buy groceries?
>
> >> Actually it's not all quite as selfless as you might think.  Avoids a
> >> lot of taxes.
>
> >What percentage of the possible 4 billion dollar income do you think
> >he's avoiding?
>
> Hard to say without being his accountant.
>
> Somewhere between 10% and 50%.
>
> There might also be some debts to be paid off, and half the
> compensation is stock not cash so it's an exchange and not a gain,
> yada yada.
>
> But as a foundation it goes on like that every year, it's not even a
> one-time thing.
>
> It's not quite as sleazy as putting it all in the Cayman Islands, but
> it's the next thing over.  If you have big money, you are going to be
> doing one or the other or something like it.

Is there anything he could do with his $4b that would be above all
cynical suspicion?

Obveeus

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Nov 5, 2012, 3:27:47 PM11/5/12
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It does seem a bit silly that someone would see this as a 'tax dodge', but
as to your question I have to admit that if Lucas came to me and told me he
was giving me $4billion, I would be suspicious as to his true motives.


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Michael Black

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Nov 5, 2012, 3:52:20 PM11/5/12
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Not without watering down the product.

He could give people a rebate, but then how do you keep out those few
people who didn't see any of his films?

He could issue furture movies at a cheaper price, but that would cut into
profits, so he'd have less to give away in the future.

Michael

gtr

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Nov 5, 2012, 3:59:13 PM11/5/12
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On 2012-11-05 19:15:32 +0000, JRStern said:

> It's not quite as sleazy as putting it all in the Cayman Islands, but
> it's the next thing over. If you have big money, you are going to be
> doing one or the other or something like it.

Yeah, charity in general is pretty sleazy. Only campaign contributions
will get you into heaven.

trotsky

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On 11/5/12 1:15 PM, JRStern wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 10:37:24 -0600, trotsky <gms...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/12 10:02 AM, JRStern wrote:
>>> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:24:56 -0800 (PST), Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is really incredible...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-from-sale-of-lucas-films-to-foundation-focused-on-education/#axzz2BGrxZCZW
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, that's nice.
>>>
>>> Will George still have enough cash to buy groceries?
>>>
>>> Actually it's not all quite as selfless as you might think. Avoids a
>>> lot of taxes.
>>
>>
>> What percentage of the possible 4 billion dollar income do you think
>> he's avoiding?
>
> Hard to say without being his accountant.


How is it "hard to say" when you just made a comment about it?


> Somewhere between 10% and 50%.


I'm not an accountant either, but I don't think there is an individual
on God's green earth that has ever paid 2 billion dollars in taxes.


> There might also be some debts to be paid off, and half the
> compensation is stock not cash so it's an exchange and not a gain,
> yada yada.
>
> But as a foundation it goes on like that every year, it's not even a
> one-time thing.
>
> It's not quite as sleazy as putting it all in the Cayman Islands, but
> it's the next thing over. If you have big money, you are going to be
> doing one or the other or something like it.


Cool, donating money to charity is "sleazy". With that logic kicking a
bum in the face is sure to get you past the Pearly Gates!

trotsky

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Nov 5, 2012, 5:17:59 PM11/5/12
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On 11/5/12 2:29 PM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <hfof985n9q955e63s...@4ax.com>
> JRStern <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:24:56 -0800 (PST), Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> This is really incredible...
>>>
>>> http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-from-sale-of-lucas-films-to-foundation-focused-on-education/#axzz2BGrxZCZW
>>>
>>> Tom
>
>
>> Well, that's nice.
>
>> Will George still have enough cash to buy groceries?
>
>> Actually it's not all quite as selfless as you might think.
>
> Lucas has been giving money away to education related charities for
> decades. He is the main back for Edutopia, and has been for over 20
> years.


Yes, that does sound sleazy.

tenworld

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Nov 5, 2012, 11:35:01 AM11/5/12
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On Monday, November 5, 2012 2:39:39 AM UTC-8, Ubiquitous wrote:
> And you posted this off-topic aericle here because?

really? every day you post reviews of obscure movies that you apparently
consider related to a TV forum because you watch them on TV, but an article
about a guy who significantly affected and will affect TV content is
"off-topic".


anim8rFSK

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In article <k797g4$o3g$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:
And you'd have Clodreamer telling you it was a phony gift because his
motives were suspect.

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Tom

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On Nov 5, 10:02 am, JRStern <JRSt...@foobar.invalid> wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 19:24:56 -0800 (PST), Tom <drso...@aol.com> wrote:
> >This is really incredible...
>
> >http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-fro...
>
> >Tom
>
> Well, that's nice.
>
> Will George still have enough cash to buy groceries?
>
> Actually it's not all quite as selfless as you might think.  Avoids a
> lot of taxes.  You put it in a foundation, then the foundation pays
> you a management/consulting fee (so you can buy groceries, and houses,
> and private jets), pays your kids and friends and neighbors consulting
> fees - the money in the foundation still buys stocks and bonds but now
> the profits are all tax-free.  Nice, huh.
>
> This is instead of paying taxes, where the money might help with
> schools and stuff in the normal matter.  Instead, working folks pay
> with their taxes, cuz they don't have private foundations to hide
> their money in.
>
> J.

Sounds like what Mitt Romney did with the Mormon church to avoid taxes
from 2002 to 2009.

Tom

Your Name

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Nov 5, 2012, 11:56:44 PM11/5/12
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In article <dennism3-0697D0...@bonxibon.datemas.de>, Dennis M
<denn...@dennism3.invalid> wrote:
> In article <k79jpg$ng6$1...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> "tenworld" <t...@world.std.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, November 5, 2012 2:39:39 AM UTC-8, Ubiquitous wrote:
> > >
> > > And you posted this off-topic aericle here because?
> >
> > really? every day you post reviews of obscure movies that you
> > apparently consider related to a TV forum because you watch them
> > on TV,
>
> Not to mention all his political BS that only has some tangential
> connection to TV.
>
> > but an article about a guy who significantly affected and will affect
> > TV content is "off-topic".
>
> And on top of that Lucas and ABC have talked of developing a live action
> Star Wars TV show.
>
> He apparently never bothers to Google before shooting his mouth off.

LucasFilm have also made two animated TV shows based during the Clone
Wars, one of which is still going on the Cartoon Network (although will
probably move to a Disney channel next season).

Then there's the two Ewoks movies, which in some countries were cinema
releases, but in others they were tele-movie releases. Plus the
"It-that-shall-never-be-named". :-)

Outside of Star Wars, there was also the Young Indiana Jones series, while
ILM and Skywalker Sound (which have also been sold to Disney) have helped
in many different movies and TV shows.

BUT, technically I guess none of this counts as on topic in
rec.arts.movies.current-films ... yet.

Halmyre

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Nov 6, 2012, 2:20:03 AM11/6/12
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On Nov 5, 8:27 pm, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
What could he possibly do to you that wouldn't be worth $4 billion?
For $4billion, I'd get over whatever it was he had in mind.

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anim8rFSK

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Nov 6, 2012, 8:45:35 AM11/6/12
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In article
<762bbdeb-dcfd-4fa0...@k21g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
How about if he cheated you out of $5B?

Antonio E. Gonzalez

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On Mon, 05 Nov 2012 05:37:34 -0500, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:

>drs...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>This is really incredible...
>>
>>http://www.classwarfareexists.com/george-lucas-donating-4-billion-from-sale-of-lucas-films-to-foundation-focused-on-educatio
>n/#axzz2BGrxZCZW
>
>And you posted this off-topic aericle here because?

Let's see:

- Lucas*film*, applies to both current and past.
- Clone Wars is currently on Cartoon Network, soon to move to Disney
XD.

So, anything but off-topic.

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JRStern

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On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 23:20:03 -0800 (PST), Halmyre
<flashgord...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> >Is there anything he could do with his $4b that would be above all
>> >cynical suspicion?
>>
>> It does seem a bit silly that someone would see this as a 'tax dodge', but
>> as to your question I have to admit that if Lucas came to me and told me he
>> was giving me $4billion, I would be suspicious as to his true motives.
>
>What could he possibly do to you that wouldn't be worth $4 billion?
>For $4billion, I'd get over whatever it was he had in mind.

Maybe you just are the droid he's been looking for.

J.


Dano

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Nov 6, 2012, 10:43:31 AM11/6/12
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"Halmyre" wrote in message
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====================================

Yes. It would seem a bit silly to me...


Dano

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Nov 6, 2012, 10:45:15 AM11/6/12
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"JRStern" wrote in message
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=========================================

I'm sure you would decline the cash.



The Starmaker

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Ubiquitous

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t...@world.std.com wrote:
>On Monday, November 5, 2012 2:39:39 AM UTC-8, Ubiquitous wrote:

>> And you posted this off-topic aericle here because?
>
>really? every day you post reviews of obscure movies that you
>apparently consider related to a TV forum because you watch them on TV,

I do no such thing, but they would be on-topic.

>but an article about a guy who significantly affected and will affect
>TV content

The original article had nothing to doi with this newsfroup. Please
work on your reading comprehension skills so you don't make any more
ignorant statements in the future.

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iceberg a second time."

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