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Mr. Hole the Magnificent  
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 More options May 24 2012, 12:01 am
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From: "Mr. Hole the Magnificent" <Classic.Mr.H...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 21:01:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 24 2012 12:01 am
Subject: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion
Bad news for G.I. Joe fans out there. In a move out of left field, and one almost as tyrannical as killing off the G.I. Joe's themselves, Deadline reports Paramount Pictures is pushing back this summer's release of G.I. Joe: Retaliation, which has already made a big marketing push with several trailers and a bunch of posters, not to mention toys already on the shelves. Instead of hitting June 29th this year, the studio is moving back the film nine months to March 29th, 2013 to convert it to 3D. An exec said, "We’re going to do a conscientious 3D job because we’ve seen how it can better box office internationally." That's bologna.

What that says to me is Paramount doesn't have faith in the film to do enough business at the box office without the inflation of 3D ticket prices. Honestly, I think this is a shitty move all around as any marketing for the film is now going to wither away for the rest of the year, fans are going to be pissed, and it just doesn't seem worth it for a 3D conversion. Apparently an exec also said, "Jim Cameron did all of Titanic‘s 3D in post – and look how well that movie turned out.” They don't seem to realize that Titanic was a Best Picture winner, and the highest grossing film of all-time for years.

The studio seems to be banking on March as a viable release for such a big movie after The Hunger Games snagged a bunch of money (again, a film with quite a following because of the best-selling book series preceding it), but I don't think that's a good enough reason. Summer is crowded, but there's plenty of people still excited about G.I. Joe Retaliation, but I don't think Paramount is happy with what they have for a summer release (especially sandwiched between Brave and The Amazing Spider-Man). Honestly, even though I hated the first film, this sequel looked fun, and now we have to wait another ten months for it to hit theaters. Bad form, Paramount Pictures, bad form. Anyone else annoyed?

http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/g-i-joe-retaliation-pushed-back-to-m...


 
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 More options May 24 2012, 10:03 am
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From: moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 07:03:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion
On May 24, 12:01 am, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

<Classic.Mr.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bad news for G.I. Joe fans out there. In a move out of left field, and one almost as tyrannical as killing off the G.I. Joe's themselves, Deadline reports Paramount Pictures is pushing back this summer's release of G.I. Joe: Retaliation, which has already made a big marketing push with several trailers and a bunch of posters, not to mention toys already on the shelves. Instead of hitting June 29th this year, the studio is moving back the film nine months to March 29th, 2013 to convert it to 3D. An exec said, "We’re going to do a conscientious 3D job because we’ve seen how it can better box office internationally." That's bologna.

> What that says to me is Paramount doesn't have faith in the film to do enough business at the box office without the inflation of 3D ticket prices. Honestly, I think this is a shitty move all around as any marketing for the film is now going to wither away for the rest of the year, fans are going to be pissed, and it just doesn't seem worth it for a 3D conversion. Apparently an exec also said, "Jim Cameron did all of Titanic‘s 3D in post – and look how well that movie turned out.” They don't seem to realize that Titanic was a Best Picture winner, and the highest grossing film of all-time for years.

> The studio seems to be banking on March as a viable release for such a big movie after The Hunger Games snagged a bunch of money (again, a film with quite a following because of the best-selling book series preceding it), but I don't think that's a good enough reason. Summer is crowded, but there's plenty of people still excited about G.I. Joe Retaliation, but I don't think Paramount is happy with what they have for a summer release (especially sandwiched between Brave and The Amazing Spider-Man). Honestly, even though I hated the first film, this sequel looked fun, and now we have to wait another ten months for it to hit theaters. Bad form, Paramount Pictures, bad form. Anyone else annoyed?

> http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/g-i-joe-retaliation-pushed-back-to-m...

Not a G.I. JOE-boy, but this does suggest that 3D's alleged fad might
not be on life-support just yet...

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 More options May 24 2012, 5:05 pm
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From: nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com>
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 14:05:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 24 2012 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion
On May 24, 10:03 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On May 24, 12:01 am, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

> <Classic.Mr.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Bad news for G.I. Joe fans out there. In a move out of left field, and one almost as tyrannical as killing off the G.I. Joe's themselves, Deadline reports Paramount Pictures is pushing back this summer's release of G.I. Joe: Retaliation, which has already made a big marketing push with several trailers and a bunch of posters, not to mention toys already on the shelves. Instead of hitting June 29th this year, the studio is moving back the film nine months to March 29th, 2013 to convert it to 3D. An exec said, "We’re going to do a conscientious 3D job because we’ve seen how it can better box office internationally." That's bologna.

> > What that says to me is Paramount doesn't have faith in the film to do enough business at the box office without the inflation of 3D ticket prices. Honestly, I think this is a shitty move all around as any marketing for the film is now going to wither away for the rest of the year, fans are going to be pissed, and it just doesn't seem worth it for a 3D conversion. Apparently an exec also said, "Jim Cameron did all of Titanic‘s 3D in post – and look how well that movie turned out.” They don't seem to realize that Titanic was a Best Picture winner, and the highest grossing film of all-time for years.

> > The studio seems to be banking on March as a viable release for such a big movie after The Hunger Games snagged a bunch of money (again, a film with quite a following because of the best-selling book series preceding it), but I don't think that's a good enough reason. Summer is crowded, but there's plenty of people still excited about G.I. Joe Retaliation, but I don't think Paramount is happy with what they have for a summer release (especially sandwiched between Brave and The Amazing Spider-Man). Honestly, even though I hated the first film, this sequel looked fun, and now we have to wait another ten months for it to hit theaters. Bad form, Paramount Pictures, bad form. Anyone else annoyed?

> >http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/g-i-joe-retaliation-pushed-back-to-m...

> Not a G.I. JOE-boy, but this does suggest that 3D's alleged fad might
> not be on life-support just yet...

Or it might just mean that in a summer season dominated by The
Avengers, Batman and Spider-Man, it's best to run for cover.  Run,
run, run until the next calender year.

 
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 More options May 24 2012, 6:22 pm
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Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:22:02 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion
On May 24, 5:05 pm, nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:

Still, two of those contenders are already 3-Diddled ...and the only
reason the other declined is that Christopher Nolan was in a
snit ...which JOE's stature couldn't afford.  (Are people *really*
clamoring for another G.I. bill?)  Besides, I've had a post-conversion
myself, and now feel that the process may actually be quite consonant
with comic-book "drama".

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Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 14:08:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion
On 5/24/2012 3:22 PM, moviePig wrote:

But I want it now!

> Still, two of those contenders are already 3-Diddled ...and the only
> reason the other declined is that Christopher Nolan was in a
> snit ...which JOE's stature couldn't afford.  (Are people *really*
> clamoring for another G.I. bill?)

I was looking forward to it based on the trailers.  I liked the first
one and Bruce Willis hamming it up notwithstanding, this one looked better.

 
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Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:32:30 -0400
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Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion

More like they've found out that 3D doesn't really add any value to the
movie other than the fact they can get away with charging $4 per ticket more
for it.  The cost of the conversion is much lower than the projected
revenue.  I've yet to see a 3D movie that was 'better' because it was 3D
other than Avatar.

 
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From: "Mr. Hole the Magnificent" <Classic.Mr.H...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:31:17 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion

Hugo was.

 
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 More options May 30 2012, 8:38 pm
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Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 20:38:26 -0400
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Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion
Once Upon A Time,
Mr. Hole the Magnificent wrote:

>I've yet to see a 3D movie that was 'better' because it was 3D
>> other than Avatar.

>Hugo was.

The Nightmare Before Christmas.  The 3D version made my jaw drop right into
my popcorn.  It made me wish that real life was 3D just like it.

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From: t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
Date: 31 May 2012 03:40:01 GMT
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Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion
In article <j6fds757llp9djjc41nt5ckbibhb7co...@4ax.com>,
Captain Infinity  <Infin...@captaininfinity.us> wrote:

>Once Upon A Time,
>Mr. Hole the Magnificent wrote:

>>I've yet to see a 3D movie that was 'better' because it was 3D
>>> other than Avatar.

>>Hugo was.

>The Nightmare Before Christmas.  The 3D version made my jaw drop right into
>my popcorn.  It made me wish that real life was 3D just like it.

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Interesting as that was post-converted IIRC.

(I liked it, but never saw the original, so I have no basis for comparison)
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Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 07:07:05 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion
On May 30, 11:40 pm, t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>)
wrote:

Since I now feel that comic-book movies are fair game for (i.e.,
helped by) post-converted 3D, I'd imagine that the animated NIGHTMARE
benefited from it as much as, say, AVENGERS and THOR did.  No added
intellectual content, but lots of extra snap for the visuals ...which
I'm not purist enough to resist.

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Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:55:55 -0400
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Subject: Re: G.I. JOE: RETALIATION release pushed back to 2013 for 3D Conversion

I think with animation is is much 'easier' to get good 3D results with than
live action.  I did like this movie a lot but missed it when it was
re-released in 3D.

For me 3D is a bad fad, but it certainly doesn't seem to be going away
anytime soon.  It may be that my eyes don't really work that way that well.

Anytime you see a regular 2D movie your brain is doing a 3D conversion
anyway.  Forcing more of this by pumping two different images to each eye
doesn't really do much for me, but that may be just me.


 
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