OT: Desperate times for mcbushies
flu...@msn.com
ammo, but have also lost their minds. How low can they go in the next/
last 30 days? Are there any people out there DUMB enough to believe
this crap? I can think of a few folks right here that buy into this
sort of propaganda>so sad<
George
Gary Duguay
Thats messed up. Then again I
have seen the words " domestic terrorist"
thrown around alot towards those of us
who do not agree with our current leaders.
Almost seems like a witch hunt of sorts
with all this nonsense terrorist talk.
<flu...@msn.com> wrote in message
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Sis
Keating Five. Keating Five. Alaskagate Alaskagate.
Man, this stuff is too easy.
Jackie
Sis
> He called Obama a terrorist?
No SHE did, sorta. She said he "palls around" with a terrorist"
Charlie Groh
<sist...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote:
>Gary Duguay wrote:
>> He called Obama a terrorist?
>
>No SHE did, sorta. She said he "palls around" with a terrorist"
...seems to me she's commenting on his choice of company...that's not
calling *him* a terrorist. It's how *you* interpret the words...JMHO.
I'm honestly ambivalent this election...but not about words, it seems
wrong to intimate that *any* candidate would call the other a
terrorist...and the spoken words don't bear that out, on either side.
cg
Gary Duguay
I cant nor would I try to defend that.
It's just pain dishonest and dirty.
yuck.
"Sis" <sist...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote in message
news:XfCdnaQXyenr33TV...@comcast.com...
Sis
> That still sounds like dirty politics to me.
> I cant nor would I try to defend that.
> It's just pain dishonest and dirty.
> yuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHW-RO1_WN0
Jackie
Sis
> That still sounds like dirty politics to me.
> I cant nor would I try to defend that.
> It's just pain dishonest and dirty.
> yuck.
Maybe we're not going to take it this time like Kerry did. Wouldn't
that be awesome?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N83DSwnE0Uk
Jackie
David White
What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty???
It only took O.J. 13 years.
David White
I hoep you know who that is.
Sis
Hehehe. I hope he likes bologna sandwiches!
Jackie
Sis
> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William Ayres.
> I hoep you know who that is.
No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
the OTHER Mike
Point of order:
Isn't it you that keeps saying McVain ?
Why of course it saddens me to know ANY politician has lowered
themselves to "our" level. :-)
David White
> David White wrote:
>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
>
> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block some
documents that would show us just how close the two are. If there is no
damaging information, why work so hard to keep them out of the public???
flu...@msn.com
> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William Ayres.
> I hoep you know who that is.
I doubt he "one of Obam's closest associates".
That's the point dave...it's the exaggeration that matters. Stupid
people believe it if you repeat it as if it were true. So you're
either stupid or you're exaggerating dave.
>
>
>
> Gary Duguay wrote:
> > That still sounds like dirty politics to me.
> > I cant nor would I try to defend that.
> > It's just pain dishonest and dirty.
> > yuck.
> > "Sis" <siste...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote in message
> >news:XfCdnaQXyenr33TV...@comcast.com...
> >> Gary Duguay wrote:
> >>> He called Obama a terrorist?
> >> No SHE did, sorta. She said he "palls around" with a terrorist"
>
> >>> Thats messed up. Then again I
> >>> have seen the words " domestic terrorist"
> >>> thrown around alot towards those of us
> >>> who do not agree with our current leaders.
> >>> Almost seems like a witch hunt of sorts
> >>> with all this nonsense terrorist talk.
> >>> <flu...@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:c101f242-bb2d-4bf3...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> >>>> Calling Obama a terrorist is not only a sign they have run out of
> >>>> ammo, but have also lost their minds. How low can they go in the next/
> >>>> last 30 days? Are there any people out there DUMB enough to believe
> >>>> this crap? I can think of a few folks right here that buy into this
> >>>> sort of propaganda>so sad<
>
> >>>> George- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
flu...@msn.com
True and true...
flu...@msn.com
I'm not running for president. I wouldn't vote for me... I agree that
the Mcbushie/mavericks have sunk to an all time low... but I have
faith they will reach new lows soon. It's what they do best...talk
shit.
George
David White
> On Oct 5, 8:51 pm, David White <wlightn...@att.net> wrote:
>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William Ayres.
>> I hoep you know who that is.
>
> I doubt he "one of Obam's closest associates".
> That's the point dave...it's the exaggeration that matters. Stupid
> people believe it if you repeat it as if it were true. So you're
> either stupid or you're exaggerating dave.
There are documents that some are trying to get brought out that would
supposedly clear up just how close Obama and Ayres are. Funny how Obama
and friends are fighting to keep these documents from becoming public
record. If there is nothing to hide, why fight so hard to keep them
secret?? I want both sides to be upfront and honest with us. I would
rather find out about all the skeletons in the closet now.
Sis
> Sis wrote:
>> David White wrote:
>>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
>>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
>>
>> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
>
> We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block some
> documents that would show us just how close the two are. If there is no
> damaging information, why work so hard to keep them out of the public???
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-simmons23-2008aug23,0,2360525.story
Illegal ad, hmm that's interesting.
I'm sure a lot more will come out in the next few days.
Jackie
Sis
> flu...@msn.com wrote:
>> On Oct 5, 8:51 pm, David White <wlightn...@att.net> wrote:
>>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William Ayres.
>>> I hoep you know who that is.
>>
>> I doubt he "one of Obam's closest associates".
>> That's the point dave...it's the exaggeration that matters. Stupid
>> people believe it if you repeat it as if it were true. So you're
>> either stupid or you're exaggerating dave.
>
> There are documents that some are trying to get brought out that would
> supposedly clear up just how close Obama and Ayres are. Funny how Obama
> and friends are fighting to keep these documents from becoming public
> record. If there is nothing to hide, why fight so hard to keep them
> secret?? I want both sides to be upfront and honest with us. I would
> rather find out about all the skeletons in the closet now.
We do know that while Gov. Palin is talking shit about Obama, she and
her husband are ignoring supeonas from Alaska.
Jackie
David White
We could go back and forth about all of this, Sis. The question that we
should be asking all Americans is, when are we all going to wake up and
throw our collective weight around. We need to let our elected officials
know that we have had enough and they get to go home and be private
citizens. We have once again been presented with the best candidates
that money can buy. I don't care for either one. they both have things
gong on in the shadows that they don't want us to know about, and that
bothers me alot.
David White
Try this for starters, and then just google, Annenberg letters obama,
and enjoy the reading. McCain may be telling lies about Obama. In this
case, Obama looked the American people in the eye and lied to us. They
both make my skin crawl.
Sis
Me too. Here's a question I wish they would ask both of them at the
Presidential Debate Tuesday "When you are President, will you pardon
George W. Bush and Dick Cheney for any and all potential crimes?"
Jackie
Sis
Jim Blansett
wrote:
>Sis wrote:
>> David White wrote:
>>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
>>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
>>
>> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
>
>We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block some
>documents that would show us just how close the two are. If there is no
>damaging information, why work so hard to keep them out of the public???
You aren't, by chance, talking about Senator McCain's medical records,
are you?
the OTHER Mike
wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:24:02 -0700, David White <wlightn...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Sis wrote:
> >> David White wrote:
> >>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
> >>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
>
> >> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
>
> >We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block some
> >documents that would show us just how close the two are. If there is no
> >damaging information, why work so hard to keep them out of the public???
>
> You aren't, by chance, talking about Senator McCain's medical records,
> are you?
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> Gary Duguay wrote:
> >>>> That still sounds like dirty politics to me.
> >>>> I cant nor would I try to defend that.
> >>>> It's just pain dishonest and dirty.
> >>>> yuck.
> >>>>news:XfCdnaQXyenr33TV...@comcast.com...
> >>>>> Gary Duguay wrote:
> >>>>>> He called Obama a terrorist?
> >>>>> No SHE did, sorta. �She said he "palls around" with a terrorist"
>
> >>>>>> Thats messed up. Then again I
> >>>>>> have seen the words " domestic terrorist"
> >>>>>> thrown around alot towards those of us
> >>>>>> who do not agree with our current leaders.
> >>>>>> Almost seems like a witch hunt of sorts
> >>>>>> with all this nonsense terrorist talk.
> >>>>>> <flu...@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:c101f242-bb2d-4bf3...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>>>> Calling Obama a terrorist is not only a sign they have run out of
> >>>>>>> ammo, but have also lost their minds. How low can they go in the
> >>>>>>> next/
> >>>>>>> last 30 days? Are there any people out there DUMB enough to believe
> >>>>>>> this crap? I can think of a few folks right here that buy into this
> >>>>>>> sort of propaganda>so sad<
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I think it's the search of both Obama and McCain's body for the 666.
With our luck, they both have 333...........................
David White
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:24:02 -0700, David White <wligh...@att.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Sis wrote:
>>> David White wrote:
>>>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
>>>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
>>> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
>> We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block some
>> documents that would show us just how close the two are. If there is no
>> damaging information, why work so hard to keep them out of the public???
>
> You aren't, by chance, talking about Senator McCain's medical records,
> are you?
Like I said in another post, I want full disclosure from both sides. If
you have to go out of your way to hide something from the public, there
must be something there must you do want me (the public) to see. When
was the last time we can see we've had a real honest politician??
the OTHER Mike
We DO need the facts, maybe Nancy Grace can take on the job.
David White
I would expect CNN to not tell the whole story. Just like FOXNEWS does
in the other direction. If you read some of the articles I suggested,
there are other things that come to light that have nothing to do with
his association with Ayres. I'm not saying that you should not support
or vote for Obama. I think that you should have both eyes open and not
blindly support him. I see a problem for McCain, if he Chooses to go
down that road. He does have a skeleton by the name of Keating in his
closet.
Jim Blansett
wrote:
Never in my lifetime - at least not that I can recall - and I'm older
than dirt!
bobE
if the public is so outraged about the bail out you would think of
the 90 congressmen that voted "yea" would be out of a job ----- but that
will never happen -- as usual .
the OTHER Mike
> David White wrote:
> > Sis wrote:
> >> David White wrote:
> >>> Sis wrote:
> >>>> David White wrote:
> >>>>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
> >>>>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
>
> >>>> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
>
> >>> We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block some
> >>> documents that would show us just how close the two are. If there is
> >>> no damaging information, why work so hard to keep them out of the
> >>> public???
>
>
> >> Illegal ad, hmm that's interesting.
>
> >> I'm sure a lot more will come out in the next few days.
>
> >> Jackie
>
> > Try this for starters, and then just google, Annenberg letters obama,
> > and enjoy the reading. McCain may be telling lies about Obama. In this
> > case, Obama looked the American people in the eye and lied to us. They
> > both make my skin crawl.
>
> >http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5397
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMRON2GPXUA
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
David White
> Heard somewhere that their are at least 90 congressmen up for election,
> if the public is so outraged about the bail out you would think of the
> 90 congressmen that voted "yea" would be out of a job ----- but that
> will never happen -- as usual .
>
And to whom should the blame fall for that?? We can piss and moan and
bitch about it all we want. But, until we are ready to stand up and say
enough is enough and throw these clowns out, Republican and/or Democrat,
all we can do is point our fingers back at ourselves.
Jazzycat1
> We DO need the facts, maybe Nancy Grace can take on the job.- Hide quoted text -
Oh God - I hate that obnoxious bitch. Someone needs to sew her mouth
shut!
the OTHER Mike
Thats makes MANY of us.
and talk about beating a dead horse, does she ever have anything new ?
as I flip through the channels, she always gets a loud FY as I
pass.............
Sis
I don't know how you can figure CNN is the opposite of FOX. MSMBC is
the closest there is but no one can truly compare to FOX, they're in a
class of their own! ;-) - Love From Ms. Palin.
Jackie
Sis
> Heard somewhere that their are at least 90 congressmen up for election,
> if the public is so outraged about the bail out you would think of the
> 90 congressmen that voted "yea" would be out of a job ----- but that
> will never happen -- as usual .
Any of 'em from N.J.?
Jackie
flu...@msn.com
> David White wrote:
> > Sis wrote:
> >> David White wrote:
> >>> Sis wrote:
> >>>> David White wrote:
> >>>>> Sis wrote:
> >>>>>> David White wrote:
> >>>>>>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
> >>>>>>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
>
> >>>>>> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
>
> >>>>> We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block some
> >>>>> documents that would show us just how close the two are. If there
> >>>>> is no damaging information, why work so hard to keep them out of
> >>>>> the public???
>
>
> >>>> Illegal ad, hmm that's interesting.
>
> >>>> I'm sure a lot more will come out in the next few days.
>
> >>>> Jackie
>
> >>> Try this for starters, and then just google, Annenberg letters obama,
> >>> and enjoy the reading. McCain may be telling lies about Obama. In
> >>> this case, Obama looked the American people in the eye and lied to
> >>> us. They both make my skin crawl.
>
> >>>http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5397
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMRON2GPXUA
>
> >> Jackie
>
> > I would expect CNN to not tell the whole story. Just like FOXNEWS does
> > in the other direction. If you read some of the articles I suggested,
> > there are other things that come to light that have nothing to do with
> > his association with Ayres. I'm not saying that you should not support
> > or vote for Obama. I think that you should have both eyes open and not
> > blindly support him. I see a problem for McCain, if he Chooses to go
> > down that road. He does have a skeleton by the name of Keating in his
> > closet.
>
> I don't know how you can figure CNN is the opposite of FOX. MSMBC is
> the closest there is but no one can truly compare to FOX, they're in a
> class of their own! ;-) - Love From Ms. Palin.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I love Kieth & Rachel...then should get married and have wonderfully
cynical children...;]
George
flu...@msn.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
666 would be Palin or Chainsaw dicky...if they shaved Bushies head it
would be 000
Couldn't resist...;]
George
Sis
Only problem is, when we through them out, they're replaced by one just
as bad from the opposite party, whichever party that happens to be.
Jackie
Sis
Shut up, she has nice legs.
Jackie
Sis
Haha, if it weren't for Keith and Rachel I would have committed suicide
by republican talking points months ago!
Jackie
bobE
Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Go here for House members http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2008/roll681.xml
Jim Blansett
A blatantly sexist comment, if I ever beard one! ;-)
Sis
> Lautenberg (D-NJ), Yea
> Menendez (D-NJ), Yea
Voting for Springsteen.
Gary Duguay
about americans calling other americans terrorists.
I am not an Obama guy but come on, lets not be so
quick to throw that word around at each other.
According to the 2007 domestic home grown terrorist
act, every american can now be thought of as a domestic
terrorist because we all complain about the government
from time to time. Complain too much and you can be detained
for 7 years without trial. This law was forced on us and is in
direct violation of the Constitution. I think it's safe to say that
liberals and and non liberals can at least agree that preserving
and protecting the constitution is not just a right but a responsibility
that we all must share.
"David White" <wligh...@att.net> wrote in message
news:aidGk.2143$Rx....@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...
> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William Ayres. I
> hoep you know who that is.
>
>> That still sounds like dirty politics to me.
>> I cant nor would I try to defend that.
>> It's just pain dishonest and dirty.
>> yuck.
flu...@msn.com
wrote:
> Ever since the domestic terrorist act I have been very weary
> about americans calling other americans terrorists.
> I am not an Obama guy but come on, lets not be so
> quick to throw that word around at each other.
> According to the 2007 domestic home grown terrorist
> act, every american can now be thought of as a domestic
> terrorist because we all complain about the government
> from time to time. Complain too much and you can be detained
> for 7 years without trial. This law was forced on us and is in
> direct violation of the Constitution. I think it's safe to say that
> liberals and and non liberals can at least agree that preserving
> and protecting the constitution is not just a right but a responsibility
>
> news:aidGk.2143$Rx....@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
>
>
> > It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William Ayres. I
> > hoep you know who that is.
>
> > Gary Duguay wrote:
> >> That still sounds like dirty politics to me.
> >> I cant nor would I try to defend that.
> >> It's just pain dishonest and dirty.
> >> yuck.
> >>news:XfCdnaQXyenr33TV...@comcast.com...
> >>> Gary Duguay wrote:
> >>>> He called Obama a terrorist?
> >>> No SHE did, sorta. She said he "palls around" with a terrorist"
>
> >>>> Thats messed up. Then again I
> >>>> have seen the words " domestic terrorist"
> >>>> thrown around alot towards those of us
> >>>> who do not agree with our current leaders.
> >>>> Almost seems like a witch hunt of sorts
> >>>> with all this nonsense terrorist talk.
> >>>> <flu...@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:c101f242-bb2d-4bf3...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> Calling Obama a terrorist is not only a sign they have run out of
> >>>>> ammo, but have also lost their minds. How low can they go in the next/
> >>>>> last 30 days? Are there any people out there DUMB enough to believe
> >>>>> this crap? I can think of a few folks right here that buy into this
> >>>>> sort of propaganda>so sad<
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
It's past the point of ridiculous Gary. The Mcbush team has nothing
left...nothing new to offer except rhetoric and fear [ Neo-Con 101 ].
Now it's not even about the issues anymore it's about personalities.
We have the War hero and the hot chick against the black guy with the
foreign name and other old guy. That's what Mcvain wants to dumb it
down to. Problem is Biden and Obama are just plain old better people.
More human and a lot smarter. This game won't work as the American
people are sick of the lies and negative attacks.
I love Palin's closing statement in the debate about how we will
have to tell our grandchildren about how we were once free. Too
funny. She stole that speech word for word from ronnie raygun. It's
off a propaganda album he recorded about how socialized medicine would
destroy our free nation. Even funnier then than now.
I laughed out loud when she used that stupid same old republic neo-con
fear tactic.
George
David White
You must really be gone to the left if you can't admit that CNN is out
there in lefty land. At least I can say that FOX is fair and balanced,
if your way out there on the right.
David White
flu...@msn.com
> Sis wrote:
> > David White wrote:
> >> Sis wrote:
> >>> David White wrote:
> >>>> Sis wrote:
> >>>>> David White wrote:
> >>>>>> Sis wrote:
> >>>>>>> David White wrote:
> >>>>>>>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
> >>>>>>>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
>
> >>>>>>> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
>
> >>>>>> We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block
> >>>>>> some documents that would show us just how close the two are. If
> >>>>>> there is no damaging information, why work so hard to keep them
> >>>>>> out of the public???
>
>
> >>>>> Illegal ad, hmm that's interesting.
>
> >>>>> I'm sure a lot more will come out in the next few days.
>
> >>>>> Jackie
>
> >>>> Try this for starters, and then just google, Annenberg letters
> >>>> obama, and enjoy the reading. McCain may be telling lies about
> >>>> Obama. In this case, Obama looked the American people in the eye and
> >>>> lied to us. They both make my skin crawl.
>
> >>>>http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/5397
>
> >>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMRON2GPXUA
>
> >>> Jackie
>
> >> I would expect CNN to not tell the whole story. Just like FOXNEWS does
> >> in the other direction. If you read some of the articles I suggested,
> >> there are other things that come to light that have nothing to do with
> >> his association with Ayres. I'm not saying that you should not support
> >> or vote for Obama. I think that you should have both eyes open and not
> >> blindly support him. I see a problem for McCain, if he Chooses to go
> >> down that road. He does have a skeleton by the name of Keating in his
> >> closet.
>
> > I don't know how you can figure CNN is the opposite of FOX. MSMBC is
> > the closest there is but no one can truly compare to FOX, they're in a
> > class of their own! ;-) - Love From Ms. Palin.
>
> > Jackie
>
> You must really be gone to the left if you can't admit that CNN is out
> there in lefty land. At least I can say that FOX is fair and balanced,
>
> - Show quoted text -
I disagree...fox=right msnbc=left CNN=down the middle. They were all
excited about mcvain taking the lead after the Republican convention.
I believe they are fair and balanced. You may just not like what's
being said 'cause its usually bad for the Mcbush team lately...hence
all the foolish attack ads and bad reviews there off.
George
David White
CNN= Clinton News Network I've had a problem with CNN being to the
left of center for a very long time. MSNBC is way out there on the left.
I dont believe that we have any news service the is on the center. I
wish there was one. It's really sad that all of them are not objective
any longer.
Sis
Hehehe. I know you are but what am I? ;-)
Jackie
Sis
Not an electable one. Not at this point anyway.
Jackie
David White
If qwe started voting for them, they could be very formidable.
dbriggs
the parody and subsequent killing of her on Boston Legal a couple
seasons ago was the best
cya
the OTHER Mike
>
> - Show quoted text -
I feel Fox leans right, CNN, it depends on who's show you're watching,
Glen Beck leans right, general news leans left but CNBC is somewhere
off the scale to the left.
Between Bill Maur on the left and Dennis Miller on the right, I feel
we get to figure out alot of it for ourselves.
Sis
> Jim Blansett wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:24:02 -0700, David White <wligh...@att.net>
>>
>>> Sis wrote:
>>>> David White wrote:
>>>>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
>>>>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
>>>> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
>>> We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block some
>>> documents that would show us just how close the two are. If there is
>>> no damaging information, why work so hard to keep them out of the
>>> public???
>>
>> are you?
>
>
> Like I said in another post, I want full disclosure from both sides. If
> you have to go out of your way to hide something from the public, there
> must be something there must you do want me (the public) to see. When
> was the last time we can see we've had a real honest politician??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its
Jackie
flu...@msn.com
> David White wrote:
> > Jim Blansett wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
and the bitch wants to talk about other peoples patriotism...go
figure...;]
George
flu...@msn.com
> > Jim Blansett wrote:
> >> wrote:
>
> >>> Sis wrote:
> >>>> David White wrote:
> >>>>> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William
> >>>>> Ayres. I hoep you know who that is.
> >>>> No, he isn't one of Obama's closest associates.
> >>> We will not know for sure. They are working very hard to block some
> >>> documents that would show us just how close the two are. If there is
> >>> no damaging information, why work so hard to keep them out of the
> >>> public???
>
> >> You aren't, by chance, talking about Senator McCain's medical records,
> >> are you?
>
> > Like I said in another post, I want full disclosure from both sides. If
> > you have to go out of your way to hide something from the public, there
> > must be something there must you do want me (the public) to see. When
> > was the last time we can see we've had a real honest politician??
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I can't wait to send her packing...I think her own state will dump her
when she runs for Gov. as well...;]
George
the OTHER Mike
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> - Show quoted text -
But, wasn't it the gaol to be STATES ? Terrosim is a whole nother
ball game if you ask me, but isn't terriosm what we were based on
also ?
the OTHER Mike
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> - Show quoted text -
You would not make it if it wern't for us "occupied" states.......:-)
Gary Duguay
Bush had very close friends as guests in the white house
durring the 911 bombings who he personaly had escorted
out of the country via private jet later that day. If I remember
correctly those special friends were and still are
the Binladin family.
I guess that same arguement works both ways.
"David White" <wligh...@att.net> wrote in message
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> It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William Ayres. I
> hoep you know who that is.
>
>> That still sounds like dirty politics to me.
>> I cant nor would I try to defend that.
>> It's just pain dishonest and dirty.
>> yuck.
Sis
> the Middle East (he received $3.5 Million from Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi arms
> dealer with ties to Saddam Hussein), Ayres stating, on 9/11/01 in the NYT no
> less, that he wished he could have "done more", the fact that PLO supporter
> Rashid Khalil and the AAAN was the biggest contributor to Obama's Senatorial
> Campaign - and got grants from the Woods Fund (which Obama Chaired along with
> Bill Ayres) et al don't reflect on Obama, why is one video of a meeting of
> right-wing wackos so relevant in re Palin's patriotism?
>
> (Shaking Head)
>
>\
*throwing hands in the air*
Unbelievable. Have you seen her witch doctor pastor? This woman just
"came on the scene" as she says, a few weeks ago and there is already so
much out there on her that it's scary, including that she wants more
power as Vice President than even Dick Cheney wanted.
Jackie
the OTHER Mike
By the way.................Do you really think Cheney was NOT running
the country ?
Colonel Jake
"Gary Duguay" <wangdo...@sbcglobal.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:CETGk.4201$be....@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
: Yes I know who he is.
: Bush had very close friends as guests in the white house
: durring the 911 bombings who he personaly had escorted
: out of the country via private jet later that day. If I remember
: correctly those special friends were and still are
: the Binladin family.
: I guess that same arguement works both ways.
STFU!,
"You GODDAMNED MoTHERFUCKING ToP-PoASTER!!!..."
:
: "David White" <wligh...@att.net> wrote in message
: news:aidGk.2143$Rx....@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...
: >
<snipped>
flu...@msn.com
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:43:41 -0700 (PDT), "flu...@msn.com" <flu...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> the Middle East (he received $3.5 Million from Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi arms
> dealer with ties to Saddam Hussein), Ayres stating, on 9/11/01 in the NYT no
> less, that he wished he could have "done more", the fact that PLO supporter
> Rashid Khalil and the AAAN was the biggest contributor to Obama's Senatorial
> Campaign - and got grants from the Woods Fund (which Obama Chaired along with
> Bill Ayres) et al don't reflect on Obama, why is one video of a meeting of
> right-wing wackos so relevant in re Palin's patriotism?
>
> (Shaking Head)
Careful the stuffing doesn't fall out...;]
>
> --
> Ron in Florida
>
> "Because there was always something about the Skyliners...
> and that music..."
> - Donnie Solinger
>
> Diceman Radio: 24/7 Old Time Drum Corpshttp://community.loudcity.com/stations/diceman-radio/tune_in
>
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It was seven years Ron...not one meeting...silly little facts...;] The
latest participation was this year. They want to secede from the USA.
That's called treason.
George
flu...@msn.com
wrote:
> Yes I know who he is.
> Bush had very close friends as guests in the white house
> durring the 911 bombings who he personaly had escorted
> out of the country via private jet later that day. If I remember
> correctly those special friends were and still are
> the Binladin family.
BINGO...his buddies and business partners...
> I guess that same arguement works both ways."David White" <wlightn...@att.net> wrote in message
>
> news:aidGk.2143$Rx....@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com...
>
>
>
> > It's not dishonest. One of Obama's closest associates is William Ayres. I
> > hoep you know who that is.
>
> > Gary Duguay wrote:
> >> That still sounds like dirty politics to me.
> >> I cant nor would I try to defend that.
> >> It's just pain dishonest and dirty.
> >> yuck.
> >> "Sis" <siste...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote in message
> >>news:XfCdnaQXyenr33TV...@comcast.com...
> >>> Gary Duguay wrote:
> >>>> He called Obama a terrorist?
> >>> No SHE did, sorta. She said he "palls around" with a terrorist"
>
> >>>> Thats messed up. Then again I
> >>>> have seen the words " domestic terrorist"
> >>>> thrown around alot towards those of us
> >>>> who do not agree with our current leaders.
> >>>> Almost seems like a witch hunt of sorts
> >>>> with all this nonsense terrorist talk.
> >>>> <flu...@msn.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:c101f242-bb2d-4bf3...@p49g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>> Calling Obama a terrorist is not only a sign they have run out of
> >>>>> ammo, but have also lost their minds. How low can they go in the next/
> >>>>> last 30 days? Are there any people out there DUMB enough to believe
> >>>>> this crap? I can think of a few folks right here that buy into this
> >>>>> sort of propaganda>so sad<
>
> >>>>> George- Hide quoted text -
flu...@msn.com
>
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Still is and will be if Mcbush pulls out a miracle win.
flu...@msn.com
> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:43:41 -0700 (PDT), "flu...@msn.com" <flu...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> the Middle East (he received $3.5 Million from Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi arms
> dealer with ties to Saddam Hussein), Ayres stating, on 9/11/01 in the NYT no
> less, that he wished he could have "done more", the fact that PLO supporter
> Rashid Khalil and the AAAN was the biggest contributor to Obama's Senatorial
> Campaign - and got grants from the Woods Fund (which Obama Chaired along with
> Bill Ayres) et al don't reflect on Obama, why is one video of a meeting of
> right-wing wackos so relevant in re Palin's patriotism?
>
> (Shaking Head)
Wrap your head around this...;]
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-politics/20081007/McCain.Iran.Contra/
>
> --
> Ron in Florida
>
> "Because there was always something about the Skyliners...
> and that music..."
> - Donnie Solinger
>
> Diceman Radio: 24/7 Old Time Drum Corpshttp://community.loudcity.com/stations/diceman-radio/tune_in
>
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the OTHER Mike
>
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And somewhere up that chain of command in the dark corners of
Washington, the same person who tells Cheney what to do will be
telling Obama what to do. THAT has been "my" point all along. They
only "allow" us to think we have a voice.
I realize it's too tin foil hat for most people and even I get caught
up in the finger pointing alot of times, but I think the power
controls both parties.
Sis
Jackie
Jim Blansett
<flu...@msn.com> wrote:
While you're at it, try this on for size:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g
David White
This is exactly what the powers that be want us to do. We are so busy
pointing fingers at each other, we continue to take our eye off the
ball. We have very serious problems in this country and in the world. As
much as our Stock Markets have dropped off in the last 2 days, many of
the other markets in the world dropped harder. Let's just agree that
both of these guys have checkered pasts and look at what they propose to
do the try and fix our current problems. The trouble with that is, we
don't know what they want to do. Both are being extremely vague. I can't
point at one of these two and tell you that his plan is better than the
other. We should be complaining that our candidate has not been clear
and forthcoming about his plans and how he thinks it will help fix our
current situation.
the OTHER Mike
>
> > While you're at it, try this on for size:
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g
>
> This is exactly what the powers that be want us to do. We are so busy
> pointing fingers at each other, we continue to take our eye off the
> ball. We have very serious problems in this country and in the world. As
> much as our Stock Markets have dropped off in the last 2 days, many of
> the other markets in the world dropped harder. Let's just agree that
> both of these guys have checkered pasts and look at what they propose to
> do the try and fix our current problems. The trouble with that is, we
> don't know what they want to do. Both are being extremely vague. I can't
> point at one of these two and tell you that his plan is better than the
> other. We should be complaining that our candidate has not been clear
> and forthcoming about his plans and how he thinks it will help fix our
>
> - Show quoted text -
I agree 100%
It's all milktoast.
Charlie Groh
<BleuR...@aol.com> wrote:
...meaning? Did you mean "Milquetoast?" Submissive?
cg
the OTHER Mike
>
> - Show quoted text -
What I thought I ment was milktoast, tyoast soaked in milk that's fed
to babies / young children that has no flavor or spice. Now, is THAT
how it's spelled or is that just the comic strip "take off" of it ?
Charlie Groh
<BleuR...@aol.com> wrote:
>> ...meaning? ?Did you mean "Milquetoast?" ?Submissive?
>>
>> cg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>What I thought I ment was milktoast, tyoast soaked in milk that's fed
>to babies / young children that has no flavor or spice. Now, is THAT
>how it's spelled or is that just the comic strip "take off" of it ?
...Milquetoast is/was a Bloom County cartoon character...also Caspar
Milquetoast is a character in the cartoon "The Timid Soul," prolly the
engendering of the term "milquetoast." Your usage is clear once the
distinction is made, although both are obscure. (Dang, I'm sounding
like my buddy JB!).
cg
Jim Blansett
I'm right darned proud of you, son! I done brung you up right! ;-)
Sis
I agree with you on the vagueness, but I am extremely concerned about
the negative nasty tone of the McCain campaign to the point where they
are inciting violence. Listening to people call out "Kill Him" when
Palin is inciting anger in Florida and "Terrorist" when McCain asks what
Obama is really, and then then not stopping and saying NO to the call of
"terrorist" is very very scary and extremely unprofessional. This is
getting very bad.
Jackie
the OTHER Mike
>
> >> While you're at it, try this on for size:
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAyK-enrF1g
>
> > This is exactly what the powers that be want us to do. We are so busy
> > pointing fingers at each other, we continue to take our eye off the
> > ball. We have very serious problems in this country and in the world. As
> > much as our Stock Markets have dropped off in the last 2 days, many of
> > the other markets in the world dropped harder. Let's just agree that
> > both of these guys have checkered pasts and look at what they propose to
> > do the try and fix our current problems. The trouble with that is, we
> > don't know what they want to do. Both are being extremely vague. I can't
> > point at one of these two and tell you that his plan is better than the
> > other. We should be complaining that our candidate has not been clear
> > and forthcoming about his plans and how he thinks it will help fix our
> > current situation.
>
> I agree with you on the vagueness, but I am extremely concerned about
> the negative nasty tone of the McCain campaign to the point where they
> are inciting violence. �Listening to people call out "Kill Him" when
> Palin is inciting anger in Florida and "Terrorist" when McCain asks what
> Obama is really, and then then not stopping and saying NO to the call of
> "terrorist" is very very scary and extremely unprofessional. �This is
> getting very bad.
>
>
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I agree, and to be honest, those were my concerns with liberals early
on, now I'm hearing it from both sides like I've never heard before.
This ain't good at all.
I still can't help but think there are people behind all of this
pulling the strings, yea, I know, I wear a tin foil hat, but this is
as real life X files as you wanna get. I have never witnessed this
sort of blind hate this bad before and I know people on both sides of
the aisle so pissed off they are foaming at the mouth.
It would be better if we harnessed the rage on the AIG executives
FIRST
David White
And, if Obama win this election, McCain can blame his loss on that very
thing. I have grown tired of our so-called leaders acting like 8
year-olds. And we would not accept that from our kids.
Sis
the OTHER Mike
>
> - Show quoted text -
Let's beat their ass ( save any of them that look like Anne Coulter
for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Sis
> On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 05:02:04 -0700 (PDT), "flu...@msn.com" <flu...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Like I said in another post, I want full disclosure from both sides. If
>>>>>> you have to go out of your way to hide something from the public, there
>>>>>> must be something there must you do want me (the public) to see. When
>>>>>> was the last time we can see we've had a real honest politician??
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its
>>>>> Jackie- Hide quoted text -
>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>> and the bitch wants to talk about other peoples patriotism...go
>>>> figure...;]
>>>> George
>>> If Rev. Wright's myriad anti-American rants, Syrian-born Tony Rezko's ties to
>>> the Middle East (he received $3.5 Million from Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi arms
>>> dealer with ties to Saddam Hussein), Ayres stating, on 9/11/01 in the NYT no
>>> less, that he wished he could have "done more", the fact that PLO supporter
>>> Rashid Khalil and the AAAN was the biggest contributor to Obama's Senatorial
>>> Campaign - and got grants from the Woods Fund (which Obama Chaired along with
>>> Bill Ayres) et al don't reflect on Obama, why is one video of a meeting of
>>> right-wing wackos so relevant in re Palin's patriotism?
>>>
>>> (Shaking Head)
>> Careful the stuffing doesn't fall out...;]
>
>
>
Your insinuations are incorrect which is that Obama "approved of their
message".
Jackie
David White
> You aren't, by chance, talking about Senator McCain's medical records,
> are you?
CNN was talking about the fact that Obama had starting smoking again
(can you blame him). They stated that McCain had released over 2100
pages of medical records. Obama, as stated on CNN, had only released 1
page and refused to release any more.
Jim Blansett
wrote:
You're correct: McCain has finally released *some* of his records.
Obama, as a healthy male, shouldn't have a significant or lengthy
health record. Do you have personal knowledge that there is more for
Obama to release? If he does, I believe he should release whatever
there is.
the OTHER Mike
wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:59:35 -0700, David White <wlightn...@att.net>
He might be hiding that birthmark...........................
Sis
That's a little misinformation there, Dave. McCain didn't release
medical records but allowed less than 2100 pages of medical records to
be reviewed for a couple of hours, not allowing any copies to be made.
Nobody could go through the records in the period of time allowed. But
go ahead and have Obama release whatever you want. If something
happened to him, I'd feel a lot safer with Biden as VP than "that one".
;-)
Jackie
David White
refused to release any more. If there is anything else, I have no clue.
David White
It's really not going to make a whole lota difference who wins. With our
current situation, I don't think either one is going to be able to push
their own agenda much.
David White
CNN giving out mis-information, how can that be?? All I know is what
they said this morning. If it was the way you stated, that sucks too.
Charlie Groh
<jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze> wrote:
...the guy plays basketball regularly, is lean and strong...no reason
to think anything other than "healthy male"...McCain obviously has
some issues, just look at him. Unless someone's looking to uncover
some dirt on Obama, how many more "pages" do you need to release.
Funny, when I go to the VA to get checked out once a year, my doc
fills-out a form and has to write-in "healthy male" because there's no
box to check for that conditition...hehehehe, of course that could
change!
cg
Sis
Maybe we could get a couple of more contestants? ;-)
Jackie
Sis
> associated with Obama don't affect his patriotism, but a single youtube video of
> a right-wing radical nut-job group has something to do with Palin's...
>
>
Because she's a right wing radical nut job! ;-)
Jackie
Sis
> once)...
>
>
And then again, Palin's own Party didn't even know who she was until a
couple weeks ago.
Jackie