Good news. I own an $85 billion dollar failing insurance company.
Gary Duguay
Gary Duguay
"Gary Duguay" <wangdo...@sbcglobal.NOSPAM.net> wrote in message
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Sis
> and so do you like it or not.
>
>
Jackie
Tonyo
dbriggs
> and so do you like it or not.
>
>
Sis
We should give ourselves a family discount!
Jackie
the OTHER Mike
Idiots, they should have lost everthing they beliveved in, stupid have
nothing to expect from the goverment, Stupid choices ? Idiots
gerring a break from the nearly do wells without a brain.
Sure, I make 435,000
Gary Duguay
Bush , Mccain, Obama, Lieberman, Hillary, Dodd... the list goes on and on.
The only thing that ties these names together is that they all have received
bribe
contributions in the sums of hundres of thousands of dollars from these
bankers
and insurance companys.
They have crossed a line with us that they never should have crossed.
Our fate has sealed in the form of a hyper inflationary depression.
Do not think for one minnute that this was not done by design.
Printing paper money with nothing to back it up = the american dollar
becoming more worthless by the day.
I would like just once to go to the supermarket without over hearing people
talking about stocking up on fire armes and food but thats the way it's been
over the
past few weeks. The democrats and republicans dont care about us. Get used
to it.
They are all bought and paid for. We are on our own now. If there has ever
been a
time for ALL americans to unite, IT IS NOW.
It's us against them now. It doesnt mater what party you support anymore.
They both see us as petty shit who should serve them and the international
bankers they serve. The international banking interest own our country and
it's
leaders now. Get used to it. It wont get any better unless we take it apon
ourselves
to make it better. 1776 = 2008
"Sis" <sist...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote in message
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the OTHER Mike
wrote:
> They used our tax dollars to do it and no one did anything to stop it.
> Bush , Mccain, Obama, Lieberman, Hillary, �Dodd... the list goes on and on.
> The only thing that ties these names together is that they all have received
> bribe
> contributions in the sums of hundres of thousands of dollars from these
> bankers
> and insurance companys.
> �They have crossed a line with us that they never should have crossed.
> Our fate has sealed in the form of a hyper inflationary depression.
> Do not think for one minnute that this was not done by design.
> Printing paper money with nothing to back it up = the american dollar
> becoming more worthless by the day.
> �I would like just once to go to the supermarket without over hearing people
> talking about stocking up on fire armes and food but thats the way it's been
> over the
> past few weeks.
yep, I agree
>The democrats and republicans dont care about us. Get used
> to it.
> They are all bought and paid for. We are on our own now. If there has ever
> been a
> time for ALL americans to unite, IT IS NOW.
THANK YOU, now where do we start ?
> It's us against them now. It doesnt mater what party you support anymore.
> They both see us as petty shit who should serve them and the international
> bankers they serve. The international banking interest own our country and
> it's
> leaders now. Get used to it. It wont get any better unless we take it apon
> ourselves
> to make it better. 1776 = 2008
People think I'm a heartless bastard because I don't think the
goverment should have stepped in. Sorry, but thats the risks you take
with investments. This is only the start of the problems and things
will get much worse and neither the democrats or republicans can do
anything about it.
We, the people ? We, the sheeple.
Colonel Jake
"the OTHER Mike" <BleuR...@aol.com> wrote in message
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yep, I agree
<~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~->
"VideO Madness" "We Want Your Soul!!!..."
(http://www.coloneljake.com/videos/009F/)
This video?,
"Should be?!?!?!,...., 'PoliticaL Madness!!!.' .."
</~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~->
Sis
I think they're agreeing with you on The Morning Joe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB1nXzAfWvs
Jackie
the OTHER Mike
>
> - Show quoted text -
Republicans have become democrats and the democrats have become
socialists.
Now THATs a bad situation.
Jim Blansett
<BleuR...@aol.com> wrote:
>> > with investments. This ?is only the start of the problems and things
>> > will get much worse and neither the democrats or republicans can do
>> > anything about it.
>>
>> > We, the people ? ? We, the sheeple.
>>
>> I think they're agreeing with you on The Morning Joe:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB1nXzAfWvs
>>
>> Jackie- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>Republicans have become democrats and the democrats have become
>socialists.
>
>Now THATs a bad situation.
This current bailout of all the corporations that have gotten
themselves upside-down is as close to socialism as I've ever seen. And
it is being orchestrated by the Republican party!
Colonel Jake
"Jim Blansett" <jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze> wrote in message
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: On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:20:57 -0700 (PDT), the OTHER Mike
Yeah yeah yeah?,
"But it'll have to?!?!?!,...., go through teh democrat congress,
and senate,...., to be an actualality!!! (is that even a word)..."
David White
problem stated about 15 years ago. Let's see, who was the President
then?? Same administration that gave us Enron, Worldcom, and several
other corporations that had to be prosicuted by the currents
administration. As bad as this latest problem is, I don't what else we
could have done. It would have really hurt the U.S economy.
Jim Blansett
wrote:
I think you have to admit, David, the Dems generally aren't real big
on DE-regulating. That, my friend, is where this mess resides.
Sis
John McCain said this morning that we should listen to Warren Buffett,
who supports Barack Obama (he did, he said it). So, I think we should
take John's advice!
;-)
Jackie
flu...@msn.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
another fact the busshies can never face up to.
Ronnie Raygun the actor/moron/puppet started this mess by offering tax
breaks to his buddys taking their CO out of this country and he
started deregulation as well.
Get your facts straight. Look up voodo economics or trickle
down...PSST he ain't no f*cking hero.
George
Charlie Groh
<jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze> wrote:
...in my new non-political awareness, it really seems like a pretty
universal push by our Congress, Jim. ALL of them. (The guys that talk
the "told you so" game are the Ron Paul's and McClintocks of the
world...pretty far right). There are fiscal conservatives on both
sides of the aisle, just not enough of them to shout down the
panic...IMO of course.
cg
Sis
Sis
flu...@msn.com
I watched that a little while after I posted...nice to finally hear
people tell the truth. I remember my father telling me this is the
beginning of the end when Raygun got elected. He couldn't believe we
could be so dumb as a nation. He didn't live to see bush #2 get
elected twice but I'm sure he has rolled over a few times since...
You go girl...no way no how no mcbush...enough already.
Yes we can....
George
Sis
I love this one. If You Bankrupt a Company Do You Still Deserve a Bonus?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5wjmAteQsQ
Jackie
the OTHER Mike
> flu...@msn.com wrote:
> > On Sep 23, 12:01 am, Sis <siste...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote:
>
> >> Jackie- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I watched that a little while after I posted...nice to finally hear
> > people tell the truth. I remember my father telling me this is the
> > beginning of the end when Raygun got elected. He couldn't believe we
> > could be so dumb as a nation. He didn't live to see bush #2 get
> > elected twice but I'm sure he has rolled over a few times since...
> > You go girl...no way no how no mcbush...enough already.
> > Yes we can....
> > George
>
> I love this one. �If You Bankrupt a Company Do You Still Deserve a Bonus?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5wjmAteQsQ
>
> Jackie- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Sorry, it this guy ANYONE who has a voice ?, ( besides youtube ) ?
Sis
He has a radio show. Enough for you?
Gary Duguay
only solution.
Stock up on canned food and other items to protect yourself and your food
supply.
"the OTHER Mike" <BleuR...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 21, 7:51?pm, "Gary Duguay" <wangdoodl...@sbcglobal.NOSPAM.net>
wrote:
> They used our tax dollars to do it and no one did anything to stop it.
> Bush , Mccain, Obama, Lieberman, Hillary, ?Dodd... the list goes on and
> on.
> The only thing that ties these names together is that they all have
> received
> bribe
> contributions in the sums of hundres of thousands of dollars from these
> bankers
> and insurance companys.
> ?They have crossed a line with us that they never should have crossed.
> Our fate has sealed in the form of a hyper inflationary depression.
> Do not think for one minnute that this was not done by design.
> Printing paper money with nothing to back it up = the american dollar
> becoming more worthless by the day.
> ?I would like just once to go to the supermarket without over hearing
Gary Duguay
stop to this ? I would love it if they did but it seems that the democrats
as
well as republicans dont give a shit. They are both selling us out to
special intrest
and banking cartels.
"Jim Blansett" <jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze> wrote in message
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Gary Duguay
"the OTHER Mike" <BleuR...@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Sep 22, 11:40?pm, Sis <siste...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote:
> flu...@msn.com wrote:
> > On Sep 23, 12:01 am, Sis <siste...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote:
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjAKPutvMjMTrick or Treat.
>
> >> Jackie- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I watched that a little while after I posted...nice to finally hear
> > people tell the truth. I remember my father telling me this is the
> > beginning of the end when Raygun got elected. He couldn't believe we
> > could be so dumb as a nation. He didn't live to see bush #2 get
> > elected twice but I'm sure he has rolled over a few times since...
> > You go girl...no way no how no mcbush...enough already.
> > Yes we can....
> > George
>
Gary Duguay
"Sis" <sist...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote in message
Sis
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:09:02 -0700 (PDT), "flu...@msn.com" <flu...@msn.com>
> wrote:
>
>>> I have seen several so-called economics experts report lately that this
>>> problem stated about 15 years ago. Let's see, who was the President
>>> then?? Same administration that gave us Enron, Worldcom, and several
>>> other corporations that had to be prosicuted by the currents
>>> administration. As bad as this latest problem is, I don't what else we
>>> could have done. It would have really hurt the U.S economy.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>> another fact the busshies can never face up to.
>>
>
> the military and associated spending (how many military bases were closed on his
> watch?)
>
> He also signed the Community Revitalization Act of 1999, which made sub-prime
> loans almost mandatory...
>
>> Ronnie Raygun the actor/moron/puppet started this mess by offering tax
>> breaks to his buddys taking their CO out of this country and he
>> started deregulation as well.
>>
>
> a conversation?)
>
> Anyway, Reagan didn't start deregulation...
>
> It started with the "Railroad Revitalization and Regulatory Reform Act" in 1976.
> (There's that pesky "Revitalization" word again.)
> It was followed shortly by the "Airline Deregulation Act" in 1978.
> Both of these were signed into Law - by Jimmy Carter...
>
> Carter was a *huge* proponent of deregulation...
> He also used his influence to get the following written and passed:
>
> * The "Staggers Rail Act" which further deregulated the railroad industry
>
> * The "Motor Carrier Act" which deregulated the trucking industry
> (Carter worked closely with Ted Kennedy getting this one done.)
>
> While signing it, Carter said:
> -----
> "I have today signed into law S. 2245, the Motor Carrier Act of 1980. This is
> historic legislation. It will remove 45 years of excessive and inflationary
> Government restrictions and redtape. It will have a powerful anti-inflationary
> effect, reducing consumer costs by as much as $8 billion each year. And by
> ending wasteful practices, it will conserve annually hundreds of millions of
> gallons of precious fuel. All the citizens of our Nation will benefit from this
> legislation. Consumers will benefit, because almost every product we purchase
> has been shipped by truck, and outmoded regulations have inflated the prices
> that each one of us must pay. The shippers who use trucking will benefit as new
> service and price options appear. Labor will benefit from increased job
> opportunities. And the trucking industry itself will benefit from greater
> flexibility and new opportunities for innovation."
> -----
> Sound familiar?
> Heh...
>
> These Acts (again, passed during the Carter Years) dismantled almost a century
> of detailed regulation - going back to the 1887 Interstate Commerce Act...
>
> Deregulation has been going on almost as long as DCI!
> (Heh...)
Oh so there's the problem! ;-)
>
>> Get your facts straight.
>>
>
> You might want to get your own ducks into a "company front" before "ticking"
> someone else...
> (Grin)
>
>> Look up voodo economics or trickle
>> down...PSST he ain't no f*cking hero.
>> George
>
> Neither is Nixon, Carter, Clinton, Bush, McCain, Obama, etc.
>
>
This guy seems to understand wtf is going on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIUxQQp1O_g
Jackie
ns787980
> Gary Duguay wrote:
> > and so do you like it or not.
>
> Isn't that wonderful? �Wonder what Uncle Sam will sign us up for tomorrow!
>
> Jackie
NOTHING LIKE BLAMING YOUR COUNTRY...
WHEN WILL YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS?
Ms Jackie? WHAT WILL YOU DO?
Sharon
flu...@msn.com
I'll bet they don't pass out drunk...;]
the OTHER Mike
>
> - Show quoted text -
Come on, as democrats, aren't we supposed to be better than that ?
well, maybe not ? please, I need a rule book
flu...@msn.com
When in Rome and all that jazz...
>
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Sis
Sis
Sis
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:43:27 -0400, Sis <sist...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net>
> wrote:
>
>> http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-97152
>
> "WASHINGTON - Congressional leaders and the White House agreed Sunday to a $700
> billion rescue of the ailing financial industry after lawmakers insisted on
> sharing spending controls with the Bush administration. The biggest U.S. bailout
> in history won the tentative support of both presidential candidates and goes to
> the House for a vote Monday."
> ...
>
> "Frank negotiated much of the compromise in a marathon series of up-and-down
> meetings and phone calls with Paulson, Dodd, D-Conn., and key Republicans
> including Gregg and Blunt.
>
> Pelosi shepherded the discussions at key points, and cut a central deal Saturday
> night — on companies paying back taxpayers for any losses — that gave momentum
> to the final accord."
>
>
Time to get writing to the Representatives again!
Jackie
the OTHER Mike
> Ron Allard wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Dang, you did good work and fast. Every office I called said they were
closed for the weekend............guess they didn't see it as a
crisis.
David White
I guess you can thank the GOP for voting against their own leadership
and shooting down a bill that would have socialized a major portion of
the American economy. Funny thing is that the Dem's are blaming the
Republicans when they had 95 of their own vote against this perverted bill.
Sis
Nope, not blaming anybody. They had a little deal that it had to pass
both sides so that nobody would take the blame for it passing or not
passing. Those who depend on a deal get screwed when it doesn't work
out. Just ask the people on Big Brother!
Jackie
Sis
By the way, my representative said that his constituents were
overwhelming against the bill. But he voted for it as a Democrat.
Heh, I used to like this guy!
Jackie
David White
And I always thought that we send these people to Washington to
represent us, their constituents. My mistake, I guess.
the OTHER Mike
> David White wrote:
> > Sis wrote:
> >> Ron Allard wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:43:27 -0400, Sis
>
> - Show quoted text -
At least they admited that the phone calls were against the vote, so
at least, they told you the truth about not caring what the voters
feelings are, now if we can get my republican reps to be as honest, we
might have a start. Mine doen't even answer the phone. ( maybe it's
just my number on the "ignore" list ? )
Gary Duguay
ns787980
What do YOU know?
Sharon
ns787980
Better than WHAT? Democrat? Really what is a democrat? Is a
democrat someone that takes away from the PRODUCTIVE society and GIVE
IT to the LESS than PRODUCTIVE society?
I'm serious. What makes a DEMOCRAT?
Aren't you an INDEPENDENT?
YOU know... think for YOURSELF?
Sharon
ns787980
> Sis wrote:
> > Ron Allard wrote:
> >> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:43:27 -0400, Sis
>
> - Show quoted text -
What NOBODY gets.... is that IF YOU had any accumen... you can trace
TODAY... back to the previous administration.
I can ABSOLUTELY give YOU examples.
I know... I LIVED THROUGH THEM.
I'm sorry.. what political party did what to whom?
As if THAT makes ANY difference to YOU or ME.
I love it when people try to say it's about the OTHER party. Like
THAT makes a difference in the REAL WORLD.
Sharon
ns787980
> Sis wrote:
> > David White wrote:
> >> Sis wrote:
> >>> Ron Allard wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:43:27 -0400, Sis
>
> - Show quoted text -
THAT IS WHY ONE SHOULD VOTE.... INDEPENDENT.
YOU BOX YOURSELVES IN TO A CORNER. I believe.... until I DON'T.
I voted for Al Gore... then I voted for George Bush.
You people BOX YOURSELVES INTO A CORNER. At least I'm willing to
"LISTEN" to the other side!
BTW? When was the LAST TIME (in the previous 8 years) YOU were
nervous?
Sharon
ns787980
> before fading away again:
>
> It's not so much about parties (I'm not in one myself) it's about what
> bush and his pals have done in the last several years. It's about
> crime. It's about these particular people fucking the country up.
>
> Thank you.
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> Z- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
There ya go... blaming the current situation on the sitting
president. What you don't get is that THIS sitting president didn't
CREATE the plummeting economy.
Btw? Why doesn't anyone ever blame ANYTHING on the Legislature?
Two points. The Congress voted on going to war. I can't commit to
the NAME of the committee (of legislators) that made it LAW that it
didn't MATTER whether or not a citizen (or not) had the ABILITY to pay
a mortgage, that citizen could get a mortgage. Just ask Barney Frank
of Massachusetts.
Hell...One wants a house! THAT'S THE AMERICAN WAY. Screw whether or
not THAT person can actually PAY for it. NOT ONLY THAT???? Fannie
Mae and Freddie Mac will figure it all out..
It amazes me that the BLAME is put on President Bush. He - ULTIMATELY
- couldn't have done it without YOUR appointees!
Mr Zorb.
Sharon
Jim Blansett
wrote:
I don't recall him doing anything - read ANYTHING - to help the
economy, either. Wait, he did declare a war against a country that
had nothing to do with attacking the US. That did reward the
military-industrial complex and, in effect, do at least something to
bolster the economy, didn't it?
>
>
>Btw? Why doesn't anyone ever blame ANYTHING on the Legislature?
>
>Two points. The Congress voted on going to war.
Not really. Congress voted in favor of the Authorization for Use of
Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Enrolled as Agreed to
or Passed by Both House and Senate)[H.J.RES.114.ENR].
I hate to be the one to tell you (no, I don't), but the authorization
to use force is not the same as a declaration of war. There is a
difference, albeit a small one, but a difference nonetheless.
Sis
Jim Blansett
Did Cafferty actually stifle a laugh when he was asking his question:
"Is Sarah Palin qualified to be president?"
the OTHER Mike
> Jim Blansett wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I agree that she is not ready to be a heart beat away, but you know,
if we are going to roll tape...............http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
Jim Blansett
<BleuR...@aol.com> wrote:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc will work much better.
Colonel Jake
Jim Blansett <jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze>
<3g9ve4tk5q0mve2jl...@4ax.com>
<news:3g9ve4tk5q0mve2jl...@4ax.com>
:
: the OTHER Mike <BleuR...@aol.com>
<b88eaffb-5573-4359...@u57g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
: >
: > I agree that she is not ready to be a heart beat away, but you
: > know, if we are going to roll tape.........http://www.youtube.com/
: > watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc
: >
:
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc will work much better.
:
I like my links?,
"Looking like this-> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc)..."
What you do is?,
"Change the URL/Link into an?!?!?!,...., parenthetical expression,
and incapsulate it in between both of the curved marks (),...., for
me mostly?!?!?!,...., as long as the URL/Link isn't bigger than what
my word wrap is, I wont have to worry about it breaking apart or,
losing it URL/Link capabilities by moving back 1 or 2 spaces towards
the alignment of my page's alignment setting on the left (where its
justified), so as long as the parenthesis (curved marks ()), are there
before and after the URL/Link?!?!?! (teh parenthetical expression),..,
I wont have to worry about other characters destroying the URL/Links
capabilites!!!,...., as long as there is 1-blank or period character
after the incapsulated parenthetical expression, the URL/Link,
will survive!!!..."
Example 1A:
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc)...
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc) ...
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc) ...
XYX(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc)...
XYX (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc) ...
XYXYX(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc) XYXYX
But?,
"Play it any other way?!?!?! (teh un-incapsulated parenthetical
expression (URL/Link)),...., and you'll see what you're,
'NoT' getting!!! (hyper-links that work)..."
Nothing like?,
"Netiquette!!!..."
Sis
Why, yes, I believe he did.
Sis
Hehehe, but he wasn't trying to kid anybody.
David White
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:45:33 GMT, Ron Allard <R...@Dicemen.nat> wrote:
>
>> On 10 Oct 2008 12:21:01 -0500, Jim Blansett <jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> There ya go... blaming the current situation on the sitting
>>>> president. What you don't get is that THIS sitting president didn't
>>>> CREATE the plummeting economy.
>>> I don't recall him doing anything - read ANYTHING - to help the
>>> economy, either. Wait, he did declare a war against a country that
>>> had nothing to do with attacking the US. That did reward the
>>> military-industrial complex and, in effect, do at least something to
>>> bolster the economy, didn't it?
>>>
>> In fact, going to War is the only thing that brought us out of the Depression...
>>
>> His New Deal certainly didn't - it destroyed more jobs than it created...
>> Excise taxes, personal income taxes, inheritance taxes, corporate income taxes,
>> holding company taxes and so-called "excess profits" taxes all went up.
>> (The business tax increases resulted in companies having less capital for growth
>> and jobs; The Social Security excise taxes on payrolls made it more expensive to
>> hire workers - so they didn't...)
>> This resulted in prolonged ~17% unemployment.
>>
>> It made more money on Excise Taxes - extra taxes on alcoholic beverages,
>> cigarettes, matches, candy, chewing gum, margarine, fruit juice, soft drinks,
>> cars, tires (including tires on wheelchairs), telephone calls, movie tickets,
>> playing cards, electricity, radios, etc. - than it did on Income and Corporate
>> Taxes until 1942...
>> The money spent on New Deal projects came from taxpayers, so they had less money
>> to spend on food, cars, et al that would have stimulated the economy.
>>
>> On top of that:
>> The "National Industrial Recovery Act" of 1933 cut back production and forced
>> wages above market levels, making it more expensive for employers to hire people
>> - blacks alone were estimated to have lost some 500,000 jobs.
>>
>> The "Agricultural Adjustment Act" of 1933 cut back farm production and
>> devastated Black tenant farmers...
>>
>> The "National Labor Relations Act" of 1935 gave unions monopoly bargaining power
>> in workplaces and led to violent strikes and compulsory unionization of mass
>> production industries. Unions secured above-market wages, triggering big layoffs
>> and helping to usher in the depression of 1938...
>>
>> Then there was the Tennessee Valley Authority project, which flooded about
>> 750,000 acres of farmland, dispossessed thousands of people - and didn't
>> compensate Black sharecroppers one dime for their loss of livelihood...
>>
>> *Then* there was the "Anti-Chain Store Act" of 1936 and the "Retail Price
>> Maintenance Act" of 1937, which banned all retail discounting - and again hurt
>> the ones who needed help the most...
>>
>> These were all total disasters which did much more harm than good...
>>
>> And now, while we're close to what some call another Depression, Obama wants to
>> "fix the problem" by raising taxes and spending like FDR did!?
>
>
> jesus Ron, you're just fuckin' with us, right?
> I mean, who's gonna fall for that kind of comparison?...
> oh, yeah, some still do. But some are finally waking up.
>
>
>
Instead of just shooting your mouth off, show us where Ron's comparisons
are wrong...
Jim Blansett
>On 10 Oct 2008 12:21:01 -0500, Jim Blansett <jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze>
>wrote:
>
>>>
>>>There ya go... blaming the current situation on the sitting
>>>president. What you don't get is that THIS sitting president didn't
>>>CREATE the plummeting economy.
>>
>>I don't recall him doing anything - read ANYTHING - to help the
>>economy, either. Wait, he did declare a war against a country that
>>had nothing to do with attacking the US. That did reward the
>>military-industrial complex and, in effect, do at least something to
>>bolster the economy, didn't it?
>>
>
Well, I see you don't have me kill-filed anymore.
Hey, take a moment and read this: "The most important source of New
Deal revenue were excise taxes levied on alcoholic beverages,
cigarettes, matches, candy, chewing gum, margarine, fruit juice, soft
drinks, cars, tires (including tires on wheelchairs), telephone calls,
movie tickets, playing cards, electricity, radios -- these and many
other everyday things were subject to New Deal excise taxes, which
meant that the New Deal was substantially financed by the middle class
and poor people." Sound familiar? It should. One would think that
you might point out the web site where you gleaned a good portion of
this screed from, but didn't give any attribution:
(http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3357)
If you were in a class in college and submitted this as a paper, you
would likely be expelled for violating the honor code due to
plagiarism.
Jim Blansett
wrote:
They aren't "Ron's comparisons." They are Jim Powell's comparisons,
and Ron provided them here as screed, without providing attribution.
All one has to do is spend a little time on the web and they will find
a wealth of evidence that FDR was quite successful at getting this
country back on its feet.
David White
JB,
The point I was trying to make was, Zorb's posts are almost all like
this one. He tell us how stupid we are for believing and thinking what
we do, then, when pushed to show us where we are wrong, he just states
that he doesn't have to.
Although I don't agree much with you and George, I know that when you
two post something to refute my posting, it is generally based in fact
and you post links to back you up. And I also know when you do, I'm
usually gonna get my ass handed to me.
Sis
There is a bridge between Boston and Brookline that has a little sign
that says it was built under FDR's New Deal (or something like that). I
always thought that was pretty cool.
Jackie
flu...@msn.com
> Jim Blansett wrote:
> > wrote:
>
> >> Zorb wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:45:33 GMT, Ron Allard <R...@Dicemen.nat> wrote:
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Think about it...our roads bridges...dams...schools...hospitols...etc/
infrastructure is in need of repair and will soon reach the point of
needing replacement if we continue to ignore these repairs. Why are we
spending Billions to repair what we blow up or the enemy blows up
there instead of here?
It's a proven fact that every dollar spent on war is worth five
spent in the private sector. Imagine all the jobs we would create by
spending our tax money on us. It's worked before and can work again.
It's a win win policy to spend at home and not for a country that has
enough money to take care of itself.
Sis
>
> Think about it...our roads bridges...dams...schools...hospitols...etc/
> infrastructure is in need of repair and will soon reach the point of
> needing replacement if we continue to ignore these repairs. Why are we
> spending Billions to repair what we blow up or the enemy blows up
> there instead of here?
> It's a proven fact that every dollar spent on war is worth five
> spent in the private sector. Imagine all the jobs we would create by
> spending our tax money on us. It's worked before and can work again.
> It's a win win policy to spend at home and not for a country that has
> enough money to take care of itself.
I agree. We totally need bridge repairs.
Jackie
Colonel Jake
"Zorb" <mzee...@hotmeals.commode> wrote in message
news:sfi0f49id28cgf10s...@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:57:31 -0700, David White <wligh...@att.net>
: wrote:
:
:
: You're distorting facts. Again.
:
:
: And I don't know you,
: except I know I don't like you.
: And by the way, you don't know me, nor do you have any real idea what
: I'm about.
:
: I don't answer to you. (kid)
: I don't owe you anything.
: Don't try your little kid tactics on me, they don't work.
:
Check out one of David's?,
"Kid tactics --->
<->
<-> ----- Original Message -----
<-> From: "David White" <wligh...@comcast.net>
<-> Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
<-> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:38 PM
<-> Subject: Re: Colonel Jake gets drunk, Pees on own foot...
<->
<-> David White <wligh...@comcast.net>
<-> news:p72dnR0DRtl...@comcast.com
<-> : Yep. Joey-the-Retard is at it again.
<-> :
<->
So you can see? (Zorb),
"Just that 'statement' alone?!?!?! (that David has made),....,
makes him to be, un-credible!!! (eversomore)..."
But what can we say?,
"VK all the way!!!..."
:
: I don't talk to you, except to try to explain what should be obvious
: to someone so intelligent, and with so much integrity as yourself;
: which is, again, I won't waste my time on you.
: I mean, after 6 years of this shit, anyone that still thinks Fox is
: fair and balanced doesn't deserve my time.
:
: My life is in the real world, not in here.
:
: Z
Jim Blansett
>On 10 Oct 2008 20:37:01 -0500, Jim Blansett <jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>They aren't "Ron's comparisons." They are Jim Powell's comparisons,
>>and Ron provided them here as screed, without providing attribution.
>>All one has to do is spend a little time on the web and they will find
>>a wealth of evidence that FDR was quite successful at getting this
>>country back on its feet.
>
>My bad...
>I had the link in my clipboard but forgot to include it:
>http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3357
>
>In any event, I haven't seen any rebuttal of the claims...?
Here's a rebuttal, of sorts. The numbers Powell sites appear to be
fairly accurate. Our country, however, is about much more than just a
series a numbers and talking points. Roosevelt is considered, by some
experts, to be one of the three greatest presidents our country has
known, behind Washington, and Lincoln. Roosevelt was elected to the
highest office in the land four times. The American people obviously
felt he was a terrible president and the country was far worse off
with him in office than it would have been with another person there.
That's why they elected him, and elected him, and elected him, and
then finally elected him a fourth time. I think that pretty much sums
it up.
David White
That's OK, Joey. Coming from you, I'll take that as a compliment..
David White
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:57:31 -0700, David White <wligh...@att.net>
Am I?? If so, show me where I'm wrong.
>
>
> And I don't know you,
> except I know I don't like you.
> And by the way, you don't know me, nor do you have any real idea what
> I'm about.
I don't know anything about you other than the fact that you keep
telling me that I am wrong, and then you refuse to show me.
>
> I don't answer to you. (kid)
> I don't owe you anything.
You are right, you don't owe me anything. But, you do owe yourself
something. that would be a little credibility by showing us were we are
wrong after you keep telling us how stupid we are for having the views
that we do.
> Don't try your little kid tactics on me, they don't work.
> I don't talk to you, except to try to explain what should be obvious
> to someone so intelligent, and with so much integrity as yourself;
> which is, again, I won't waste my time on you.
> I mean, after 6 years of this shit, anyone that still thinks Fox is
> fair and balanced doesn't deserve my time.
This time I am going to do some name calling. You really are a dumbass.
Show me where I have ever stated that Fox is "fair and balanced". What I
have posted is that Fox is to the right, what CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, and the
network news is to the left. If you take the time to watch some of them
all, you will see that the truth is somewhere in the middle of them. All
the these so-called news services are agenda driven and have little
concern for what the truth really is, and that includes FOX.
BTW, I have never stated for whom my vote was going to. All I have
stated here is that those who believe things are going to be 100%
different if Obama gets elected are in for a rude awakening. I have
tried to show that he has not been totally truthful (in other words, he
lied) and has gone out of his way to cover things up, just as McCain has
done. I also asked some here to give me reasons to vote FOR Obama, and
not just reasons to vote AGAINST McCain. If all you want me to do is
vote against McCain, there are other candidates in this race.
David White
Do you really believe that if we were not spending the money in Iraq, we
would be improving our infrastructure??
Sis
I didn't say that. I said we totally NEED bridge repairs. Remember
that bridge that fell down last year? What happens if that happens to
one of these huge old bridges? I hold my breath every time I cross one!
On another note, Palin got booed in Philly tonight. Flyers fans! ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TgDanmWkg
Jackie
Colonel Jake
"David White" <wligh...@att.net> wrote in message
news:_NeIk.3297$ZP4....@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com...
Yeah?,
"Compliments?!?!?!,...., can be hard to come by these days..."
: >
: > But what can we say?,
: >
: >
Colonel Jake
"Sis" <sist...@comcastRichMadeMeDoIt.net> wrote in message
news:kvednRI0LIFuH2zV...@comcast.com...
Yeah?,
"But she got booed?!?!?!,...., in style!!!..."
flu...@msn.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
The point is that we should...we could and sooner or later we will
have to. If we don't bridges, dikes, levies and dams will collapse at
an alarming rate over the next 20 years. No politics involved...just
plain old engineering facts.
David White
On that point, you and I are in total agreement. Our elected leaders on
the Federal, State, and Local levels have let us down. Ask almost anyone
who lives in California about the condition of our roads and highways.
The money that was supposed to pay for the repairs was diverted to other
programs. Now that we are upwards of $16 Billion in debt, our state
government now says we don't have the money. The problem, we did have
it. We pay one of the highest state gas taxes in the country. That money
was to be used for our transportation infrastructure, roads, bridges,
etc. This is happening all over the country. I don't understand why our
Governments can't get their collective heads around the idea that it
will cost us less to do preventive maintenance, than wait until it's too
late and have to build something new.
flu...@msn.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Connecticut is right there with CA. We also allowed state gambling get
to the point where it's an epidemic addiction. All that money was
promised to only two things roads and schools. When I was a kid CT had
some of the best roads and the school system was second to none. Now
we have casinos, two daily numbers, cash five, lotto, power ball and
dozens of new scratch tickets each month or so. I can only imagine the
revenue this generates. Our roads and bridges are worse than ever and
our schools are second class. Our cities are some of the poorest and
most crime filled in the nation. I just don't understand the math.
George
the OTHER Mike
>
> - Show quoted text -
I believe that would be levees :-)
( stupid spelling rules and all that.................)
Jim Blansett
>On 11 Oct 2008 19:56:08 -0500, Jim Blansett <jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze>
>wrote:
>
>>>
>>>My bad...
>>>I had the link in my clipboard but forgot to include it:
>>>http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3357
>>>
>>>In any event, I haven't seen any rebuttal of the claims...?
>>
>>Here's a rebuttal, of sorts. The numbers Powell sites appear to be
>>fairly accurate. Our country, however, is about much more than just a
>>series a numbers and talking points. Roosevelt is considered, by some
>>experts, to be one of the three greatest presidents our country has
>>known, behind Washington, and Lincoln.
>
>All war-time Presidents... Go figure...
>(Grin)
>
>>Roosevelt was elected to the
>>highest office in the land four times. The American people obviously
>>felt he was a terrible president and the country was far worse off
>>with him in office than it would have been with another person there.
>>That's why they elected him, and elected him, and elected him, and
>>then finally elected him a fourth time. I think that pretty much sums
>>it up.
>
>The fact that the people elected him 4 times says nothing - the people elected
>Bush twice!
>Heh...
While it may just be semantics, the "people" only elected Bush once.
The electoral college elected him twice. Go figure.
>
>Granted, FDR did ok handling The War - well, except maybe for the Japanese
>Internment Camps thing - but his Domestic Policies pretty much sucked...
>
>And the Dems mirroring his policies and speeches ("First 100 Days", distribution
>of national wealth, blaming capitalism for the problems, more Federal spending
>and taxes being the solution, etc.) makes me.. uncomfortable...
Funny thing, being a socialist at heart, I support all of the above. I
particularly like blaming capitalism for problems. Oh, and making you
uncomfortable is right up there, too. ;-)
Sis
Wait, I thought the Supreme Court elected him once.
flu...@msn.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
You're right it's silly... 'cause as you know...nobody cares how you
spell um when they break.
Colonel Jake
"Jim Blansett" <jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze> wrote in message
news:8585f49lo70o1pa6k...@4ax.com...
Yeah Ron?,
"If you're reading this?!?!?!,...., if JB gave you a serious
loOk?!?!?!,...., you'd definitely be uncomfortable!!!..."
(been there, suffered that)
the OTHER Mike
>
> - Show quoted text -
I wouldn't know, but when floodwalls break, New Orleans gets flooded
( no pun intended )
As far as I know, had it been a levee that broke, it would have been
called a cravasse ( sp? ) as it was back in 1927 ( ?)
Growing up with the mixture of several languages, you might imagine
how much trouble I have with spelling.
Jim Blansett
Joey, was it as good for you as it was for me?
Colonel Jake
"Jim Blansett" <jim_bl...@hotmail.commakaze> wrote in message
: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:31:17 -0700, "Colonel Jake"
Yes it was?,
"As a matter of fact?!?!?!,...., to keep my 12-year & 14-year
old daughters in line?!?!?!,...., I sometimes give them that
`JB loOk,´ and you can just see it?!?!?!,...., they're
straightening up their attitude, real fast!!!..."
Thanks JB?,
"For them 'Lesson in Life!!!.' .."
"Only a life lived for others is a life worthwhile...."
-- Albert Einstein
flu...@msn.com
> "Jim Blansett" <jim_blans...@hotmail.commakaze> wrote in message
>
> news:7ve7f4p5kcefppl9k...@4ax.com...
> : On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:31:17 -0700, "Colonel Jake": <SergeantY...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> :
> : >
> : >"Jim Blansett" <jim_blans...@hotmail.commakaze> wrote in message
> : >news:8585f49lo70o1pa6k...@4ax.com...
> : >: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:33:50 GMT, Ron Allard <R...@Dicemen.nat> wrote:
> : >:
> : >: >On 11 Oct 2008 19:56:08 -0500, Jim Blansett
You know Joey...sometimes it's hard to hate you...lord knows I've
tryed...but then you always seem to amaze me at how normal you can be
(whatever that means) unbelievable...;]
George
Jim Blansett
George, we all have our idiosyncrasies. Joey, as I remember him, is a
little bit twisted, in his own lovable way. Me, as I remember me,
well, I'm more than a little bit twisted, in my own way. I try and
realize that we aren't all the same person, and thank the stars that
we aren't. Man, if I had to find my way through the forest, depending
on a whole buncha me kinda people - hell, I'd just shoot myself,
instead.
Sis
Hey! I just did an accidental google news search (I meant to do a
newsgroup search) on Joey Dingbat and what do you think came up but a
picture of Sarah Palin! I kid you not, try it! :-)
Jackie
Jim Blansett
3 outta 4 ain't good for the Governor from Alaska.