Scouts Announce 2010 Program
Sis
The Madison Scouts are pleased to announce their 2010 show production
featuring George Gershwin�s Rhapsody in Blue and Richard Rodgers�
Slaughter on Tenth Avenue.
�In selecting these works I wanted music that will enable us to
re-establish the Madison Scout brand this first year. We will be
building upon that identifiable Madison wall of sound from the past
while at the same time exploring new and exciting ways of presenting
these wonderful pieces,� stated James Mason, artistic director. �While
these compositions have a historical significance to the corps and our
audience, James Prime arranging them is a dream come true for me. I also
believe that it is a great vehicle to showcase the battery and front
ensemble writing of Thom Hannum and Jim Ancona.�
�The combination of rich melodic passages with intricate and complex
rhythmic interludes has certainly excited our entire gifted team of
arrangers,� continued Mason. �I�m sure that Jon Vanderkolff and Jim
Moore, as designers of the visual program, will produce a unique and
inspired interpretation of all the sounds on the field as well. I�m
really looking forward to seeing it all come together!�
�Rhapsody and Slaughter are iconic pieces,� said Chris Komnick,
executive director. �Our members have always been eager to explore the
musical legacy of the Madison Scouts and these charts are going to be
both exciting and challenging for them to play. They�re recognizable to
audiences and will provide numerous opportunities for the corps to
connect with and energize the crowd.�
Rhapsody in Blue was written for solo piano and jazz band and combines
elements of classical music with jazz-influenced effects. It was
performed by the Madison Scouts in 1975, 1976 and 1985. Slaughter on
Tenth Avenue comes from Rodgers and Hart�s On Your Toes which has been
performed as a movie, on Broadway and as a ballet. It was performed by
the Scouts in 1974, 1975, 1982 and 1989.
The audition process for the 2010 Madison Scouts is underway, please go
to www.MadisonScouts.org to learn more. Callback auditions will take
place in Bloomington, IN on November 21-22 and December 18-20.
To donate to the 2010 Madison Scouts, please go to www.MadisonGear.com.
The Madison Scouts are a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization and all
donations are tax deductible.
flu...@msn.com
> The Madison Scouts are pleased to announce their 2010 show production
> Slaughter on Tenth Avenue.
>
> “In selecting these works I wanted music that will enable us to
> re-establish the Madison Scout brand this first year. We will be
> building upon that identifiable Madison wall of sound from the past
> while at the same time exploring new and exciting ways of presenting
> these compositions have a historical significance to the corps and our
> audience, James Prime arranging them is a dream come true for me. I also
> believe that it is a great vehicle to showcase the battery and front
>
> “The combination of rich melodic passages with intricate and complex
> rhythmic interludes has certainly excited our entire gifted team of
> Moore, as designers of the visual program, will produce a unique and
> really looking forward to seeing it all come together!”
>
> “Rhapsody and Slaughter are iconic pieces,” said Chris Komnick,
> executive director. “Our members have always been eager to explore the
> musical legacy of the Madison Scouts and these charts are going to be
> audiences and will provide numerous opportunities for the corps to
>
> Rhapsody in Blue was written for solo piano and jazz band and combines
> elements of classical music with jazz-influenced effects. It was
> performed by the Madison Scouts in 1975, 1976 and 1985. Slaughter on
> performed as a movie, on Broadway and as a ballet. It was performed by
> the Scouts in 1974, 1975, 1982 and 1989.
>
Fan-tastic and I do mean Fan...;}
George
> The audition process for the 2010 Madison Scouts is underway, please go
> towww.MadisonScouts.orgto learn more. Callback auditions will take
Jazzycat1
(old style) uniforms?
vettepassesyou
Stu
> The Madison Scouts are pleased to announce their 2010 show production
> Slaughter on Tenth Avenue.
Is it too much to ask for something new? Before Star of Madison
dressing up like daddy? Or have we just come to accept that anything
new is crap?
> “In selecting these works I wanted music that will enable us to
> re-establish the Madison Scout brand this first year.
Mmhm. And then what.
> We will be
> building upon that identifiable Madison wall of sound from the past
Not without bugles.
> “The combination of rich melodic passages with intricate and complex
> rhythmic interludes has certainly excited our entire gifted team of
> arrangers,” continued Mason. “I’m sure that Jon Vanderkolff and Jim
> Moore, as designers of the visual program, will produce a unique and
> inspired interpretation of all the sounds on the field as well. I’m
> really looking forward to seeing it all come together!”
Sure, if they can't do something original, and they can't do drum
corps (sans bugles), then ... well - yeah ... *whatever* they come up
with will no doubt be really ... something. Can't wait to see the
Madison Scouts Marching Band attempt drum corps music while they sit
around and convince themselves those uniforms really mean something
with these Star prima donnas running the show.
> “Rhapsody and Slaughter are iconic pieces,” said Chris Komnick,
> executive director. “Our members have always been eager to explore the
> musical legacy of the Madison Scouts
[explore = pillage]
> They’re recognizable to audiences
I wonder. Most drum corps fans left long ago.
> and will provide numerous opportunities for the corps to
> connect with and energize the crowd.”
Which for DCI is an increasingly remote end in itself. Strike up the
band while I vomit.
Stuart E. Rice
www.marchingresearch.com
flu...@msn.com
> On Oct 26, 11:10 pm, Sis <siste...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > The Madison Scouts are pleased to announce their 2010 show production
> > featuring George Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue and Richard Rodgers’
> > Slaughter on Tenth Avenue.
>
> Is it too much to ask for something new? Before Star of Madison
> dressing up like daddy? Or have we just come to accept that anything
> new is crap?
Your post is crap...but that's not new...now is it...;}
>
> > “In selecting these works I wanted music that will enable us to
> > re-establish the Madison Scout brand this first year.
>
> Mmhm. And then what.
You'll have to wait till next year to know.
>
> > We will be
> > building upon that identifiable Madison wall of sound from the past
>
> Not without bugles.
I think they will be loud enough and in tune no less.
>
> > “The combination of rich melodic passages with intricate and complex
> > rhythmic interludes has certainly excited our entire gifted team of
> > arrangers,” continued Mason. “I’m sure that Jon Vanderkolff and Jim
> > Moore, as designers of the visual program, will produce a unique and
> > inspired interpretation of all the sounds on the field as well. I’m
> > really looking forward to seeing it all come together!”
>
> Sure, if they can't do something original, and they can't do drum
> corps (sans bugles), then ... well - yeah ... *whatever* they come up
> with will no doubt be really ... something. Can't wait to see the
> Madison Scouts Marching Band attempt drum corps music while they sit
> around and convince themselves those uniforms really mean something
> with these Star prima donnas running the show.
Maybe you could apply for a job...You're a prima-donna... just
kidding... who the fuck would hire you(rhetorical)
>
> > “Rhapsody and Slaughter are iconic pieces,” said Chris Komnick,
> > executive director. “Our members have always been eager to explore the
> > musical legacy of the Madison Scouts
>
> [explore = pillage]
(explore =pay respect)
>
> > They’re recognizable to audiences
>
> I wonder. Most drum corps fans left long ago.
Lots of us are still here...
>
> > and will provide numerous opportunities for the corps to
> > connect with and energize the crowd.”
>
> Which for DCI is an increasingly remote end in itself. Strike up the
> band while I vomit.
I hope you choke on it...:}
>
> Stuart E. Ricewww.marchingresearch.com wannabe/has been for all of a month...once...too funny
George
three...@yahoo.com
>
> George
I am so glad that they are going to let the scouts be themselves. I
saw them in Indiana in 08 and they just werent the scouts i was use to
seeing. I hope to see them this summer and I cant wait.
flu...@msn.com
wrote:
>
> > George
>
> I am so glad that they are going to let the scouts be themselves. I
> saw them in Indiana in 08 and they just werent the scouts i was use to
> seeing. I hope to see them this summer and I cant wait.
I saw them in Allentown and people were laughing at them...mostly for
the uniform and guard costume. The crowd was bored and people around
me talked through their performance...just too sad for words.
Bring back the power...
George
Stu
> On Oct 29, 9:53 pm, Stu <choreoma...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 26, 11:10 pm, Sis <siste...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > The Madison Scouts are pleased to announce their 2010 show production
> > > featuring George Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue and Richard Rodgers’
> > > Slaughter on Tenth Avenue.
>
> > Is it too much to ask for something new? Before Star of Madison
> > dressing up like daddy? Or have we just come to accept that anything
> > new is crap?
>
> Your post is crap...but that's not new...now is it...;}
That would explain why you, as a DCI fan, are attracted to it.
> > > “In selecting these works I wanted music that will enable us to
> > > re-establish the Madison Scout brand this first year.
>
> > Mmhm. And then what.
>
> You'll have to wait till next year to know.
Meanwhile, ask yourself something: Why would Mason assemble this
crack staff and then turn around plunk a quarter in the jukebox so we
can all "relive the memories" with band instruments? A - They have
nothing planned. They're just happy to get a paycheck; B - They
aren't capable of producing something original that doesn't suck (or
smell like sophistication envy like "Medea"). They realized in the
90s that they can't contribute something drum corps fans will like; C
- [fill in your best explanation for this abomination].
> > > We will be
> > > building upon that identifiable Madison wall of sound from the past
>
> > Not without bugles.
>
> I think they will be loud enough and in tune no less.
I heard your "loud enough" from Phantom last year. "Loud enough" it
ain't. Not by a longshot. Corps these days can't manage a forte on
these peashooters.
> > > “The combination of rich melodic passages with intricate and complex
> > > rhythmic interludes has certainly excited our entire gifted team of
> > > arrangers,” continued Mason. “I’m sure that Jon Vanderkolff and Jim
> > > Moore, as designers of the visual program, will produce a unique and
> > > inspired interpretation of all the sounds on the field as well. I’m
> > > really looking forward to seeing it all come together!”
>
> > Sure, if they can't do something original, and they can't do drum
> > corps (sans bugles), then ... well - yeah ... *whatever* they come up
> > with will no doubt be really ... something. Can't wait to see the
> > Madison Scouts Marching Band attempt drum corps music while they sit
> > around and convince themselves those uniforms really mean something
> > with these Star prima donnas running the show.
>
> Maybe you could apply for a job...You're a prima-donna... just
> kidding... who the fuck would hire you(rhetorical)
Here's another rhetorical question: Why would I want to work with a
staff whose only title came because they bought Zingali?
> > > “Rhapsody and Slaughter are iconic pieces,” said Chris Komnick,
> > > executive director. “Our members have always been eager to explore the
> > > musical legacy of the Madison Scouts
>
> > [explore = pillage]
>
> (explore =pay respect)
pay respect = don't dress up in a drum corps uniform so you can prance
around playing on band instruments
> > > They’re recognizable to audiences
>
> > I wonder. Most drum corps fans left long ago.
>
> Lots of us are still here...
... and they call *me* deprived.
> > > and will provide numerous opportunities for the corps to
> > > connect with and energize the crowd.”
>
> > Which for DCI is an increasingly remote end in itself. Strike up the
> > band while I vomit.
>
> I hope you choke on it...:}
Beats feasting on it.
> > Stuart E. Ricewww.marchingresearch.comwannabe/has been for all of a month...once...too funny
Looks like we're all laughing here. You're laughing at me because I'm
different. I'm laughing at you because you're all the same.
George - all you DCI superfans, for that matter - you folks need to
smell the coffee and recognize you've been sold out (and for quite
some time now). What does BD 09 tell you? Why do you tolerate this
crap? Because "you love drum corps"? Love is a two-way street. The
alternative - loving something that betrays you at every step - is co-
dependance. If you want to "do it for the kids," or just pretend
these contests mean something because they validate your glory days,
its a free country. But its a terrible misallocation of human effort
and money, and a misrepresentation which some consider ugly. I don't
know what you think you're celebrating, but it isn't drum corps.
You're in denial.
Pal, we all love drum corps, and for different reasons - principally
drum, bugle, and guard, unless you were in it just for socializing.
How much more money and effort do you want to see flushed down the
toilet by these bandos just so you can get an increasingly rare
glimpse of what used to be? This activity doesn't believe in drum
corps anymore. Its all about crappy uniforms, rankings, and
attention. Begin the grieving process and get on with your life.
Give DCI's bastardized version of something once beautiful a chance to
correct itself. Then maybe we'll all have something to celebrate.
Stuart E. Rice
www.marchingresearch.com
Charlie Groh
wrote:
>On Oct 29, 9:20�pm, "flu...@msn.com" <flu...@msn.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 29, 9:53�pm, Stu <choreoma...@juno.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Oct 26, 11:10�pm, Sis <siste...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > > The Madison Scouts are pleased to announce their 2010 show production
>> > > featuring George Gershwin�s Rhapsody in Blue and Richard Rodgers�
>> > > Slaughter on Tenth Avenue.
>>
>> > Is it too much to ask for something new? �Before Star of Madison
>> > dressing up like daddy? �Or have we just come to accept that anything
>> > new is crap?
>>
>> Your post is crap...but that's not new...now is it...;}
>
>That would explain why you, as a DCI fan, are attracted to it.
>
>> > > �In selecting these works I wanted music that will enable us to
>> > > re-establish the Madison Scout brand this first year.
>>
>> > Mmhm. �And then what.
>>
>> You'll have to wait till next year to know.
>
>Meanwhile, ask yourself something: Why would Mason assemble this
>crack staff and then turn around plunk a quarter in the jukebox so we
>can all "relive the memories" with band instruments? A - They have
>nothing planned. They're just happy to get a paycheck; B - They
>aren't capable of producing something original that doesn't suck (or
>smell like sophistication envy like "Medea").
...you know, this is pretty low, Stuart. Here you are ridiculing
people you don't know, with whom you have *never* sat down and had a
conversation , you have no clue as to their motivations for doing
the gig...other than your trumped-up scenario (and, of course, the
obvious fact that they all have worked together *very* successfully in
the past). You haven't the foggiest notion of what meetings have been
had, between whom or durations. Shit, man, you're just groping and
looking bad in the process...
It's entirely possible that the show decision was made to thrill a
disjointed fan base (duh)...your allusion to a juke box was clever,
but trite.
Your sole motivation is simply to knock all that is DCI...we know
that, smarty.
> They realized in the
>90s that they can't contribute something drum corps fans will like; C
>- [fill in your best explanation for this abomination].
>
>> > > We will be
>> > > building upon that identifiable Madison wall of sound from the past
>>
>> > Not without bugles.
>>
>> I think they will be loud enough and in tune no less.
>
>I heard your "loud enough" from Phantom last year. "Loud enough" it
>ain't. Not by a longshot. Corps these days can't manage a forte on
>these peashooters.
...what a bunch of hooey. How can you possibly compare now and
"then"? I'd be happy to stand in front of you with my 26 lb. Kanstul
Grande G bugle and make your face flat...and I'd do exactly the same
with a Yamaha Bb...I don't think you, personally, *ever* learned how
to blow loud in *either* key, studette (there're a slew of guys who
play Bb I'd *love* to see you stand next to in a line...hey Norris,
you listening?). I've stood BEHIND a Phantom line ('03) and been
absolutely blown away...not to mention the extra firepower the modern
lines have in numbers...gimme a break, you are nuts.
>
>> > > �The combination of rich melodic passages with intricate and complex
>> > > rhythmic interludes has certainly excited our entire gifted team of
>> > > arrangers,� continued Mason. �I�m sure that Jon Vanderkolff and Jim
>> > > Moore, as designers of the visual program, will produce a unique and
>> > > inspired interpretation of all the sounds on the field as well. I�m
>> > > really looking forward to seeing it all come together!�
>>
>> > Sure, if they can't do something original, and they can't do drum
>> > corps (sans bugles), then ... well - yeah ... *whatever* they come up
>> > with will no doubt be really ... something. �Can't wait to see the
>> > Madison Scouts Marching Band attempt drum corps music while they sit
>> > around and convince themselves those uniforms really mean something
>> > with these Star prima donnas running the show.
>>
>> Maybe you could apply for a job...You're a prima-donna... just
>> kidding... who the fuck would hire you(rhetorical)
>
>Here's another rhetorical question: Why would I want to work with a
>staff whose only title came because they bought Zingali?
...bringing "titles" into it is jerk-off thinking, Stuart. Would you
say the same about Sandra Opie? How foolish...the great Ray Baumgardt
was part of the Madison team that won in '75, but you wouldn't work
with him 'cause he only won once? I don't have the time,
Stuart...your bucket is leaking pretty bad as it is...
I'm not sticking-up for DCI so much as calling you out on your agenda
and the phony lengths you go to to put it out there...phooey...
cg
>
>> > > �Rhapsody and Slaughter are iconic pieces,� said Chris Komnick,
flu...@msn.com
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:46:54 -0700 (PDT), Stu <choreoma...@juno.com>
Well said my friend...I wanted to reply...but have been too busy
teaching as it's crunch time in the band world and Winter guard is
fast approaching. I will deal with stuffy when I get some time on
Sunday. For now it's off to another rehearsal and a show...;}
George
Stu
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:46:54 -0700 (PDT), Stu <choreoma...@juno.com>
> wrote:
> >On Oct 29, 9:20 pm, "flu...@msn.com" <flu...@msn.com> wrote:
> >> On Oct 29, 9:53 pm, Stu <choreoma...@juno.com> wrote:
>
> >> > On Oct 26, 11:10 pm, Sis <siste...@comcast.net> wrote (quoting the Scouts):
> >> > > “In selecting these works I wanted music that will enable us to
> >> > > re-establish the Madison Scout brand this first year.
>
> >> > Mmhm. And then what.
>
> >> You'll have to wait till next year to know.
>
> >Meanwhile, ask yourself something: Why would Mason assemble this
> >crack staff and then turn around plunk a quarter in the jukebox so we
> >can all "relive the memories" with band instruments? A - They have
> >nothing planned. They're just happy to get a paycheck; B - They
> >aren't capable of producing something original that doesn't suck (or
> >smell like sophistication envy like "Medea").
>
> ...you know, this is pretty low, Stuart. Here you are ridiculing
> people you don't know, with whom you have *never* sat down and had a
> conversation , you have no clue as to their motivations for doing
> the gig...other than your trumped-up scenario (and, of course, the
> obvious fact that they all have worked together *very* successfully in
> the past). You haven't the foggiest notion of what meetings have been
> had, between whom or durations. Shit, man, you're just groping and
> looking bad in the process...
Like you, Charlie, I only know what I've seen. I only know what I've
learned from videotape, correspondence with Bill, an interview with
his PR guy, questionaires I've had filled out by Brass Theater
audience volunteers here on RAMD (geez, I posted this long ago), what
I've seen from Blast live and on videotape (for which I wrote a very
complimentary symposium paper) - "by their fruits ye shall know
them". And from what I've seen (and I think BT and Blast confirm
this), the only important contribution Star made to drum corps was
through Zingali. We discussed this here on RAMD in the mid 90s, and
if you can google it, I think you'll find this perspective was
legitimate before RAMD was irreversibly commercialized and overrun by
kooks.
As for "success," you need to recognize we both have different
definitions of the idea. Seems your "success" is my "distraction."
We'll probably have to agree to disagree.
> It's entirely possible that the show decision was made to thrill a
> disjointed fan base (duh)...your allusion to a juke box was clever,
> but trite.
Not entertaining, huh. Shucks. Guess I'll just have to settle for
pissing you off. :)
> Your sole motivation is simply to knock all that is DCI...we know
> that, smarty.
No, destroying DCI (so we can focus on drum corps) is one of my many
agendas, most of which revolve around promoting marching research.
> > They realized in the
> >90s that they can't contribute something drum corps fans will like; C
> >- [fill in your best explanation for this abomination].
[*crickets chirping*]
> >> > > We will be
> >> > > building upon that identifiable Madison wall of sound from the past
>
> >> > Not without bugles.
>
> >> I think they will be loud enough and in tune no less.
>
> >I heard your "loud enough" from Phantom last year. "Loud enough" it
> >ain't. Not by a longshot. Corps these days can't manage a forte on
> >these peashooters.
>
> ...what a bunch of hooey. How can you possibly compare now and
> "then"? I'd be happy to stand in front of you with my 26 lb. Kanstul
> Grande G bugle and make your face flat...
You and what "drum corps"?
> and I'd do exactly the same with a Yamaha Bb...
Peter Bond would say you're full of it.
> I don't think you, personally, *ever* learned how
> to blow loud in *either* key, studette (there're a slew of guys who
> play Bb I'd *love* to see you stand next to in a line...hey Norris,
> you listening?). I've stood BEHIND a Phantom line ('03) and been
> absolutely blown away...not to mention the extra firepower the modern
> lines have in numbers...gimme a break, you are nuts.
Enjoy the koolaid.
> >> > > “The combination of rich melodic passages with intricate and complex
> >> > > rhythmic interludes has certainly excited our entire gifted team of
> >> > > arrangers,” continued Mason. “I’m sure that Jon Vanderkolff and Jim
> >> > > Moore, as designers of the visual program, will produce a unique and
> >> > > inspired interpretation of all the sounds on the field as well. I’m
> >> > > really looking forward to seeing it all come together!”
>
> >> > Sure, if they can't do something original, and they can't do drum
> >> > corps (sans bugles), then ... well - yeah ... *whatever* they come up
> >> > with will no doubt be really ... something. Can't wait to see the
> >> > Madison Scouts Marching Band attempt drum corps music while they sit
> >> > around and convince themselves those uniforms really mean something
> >> > with these Star prima donnas running the show.
>
> >> Maybe you could apply for a job...You're a prima-donna... just
> >> kidding... who the fuck would hire you(rhetorical)
>
> >Here's another rhetorical question: Why would I want to work with a
> >staff whose only title came because they bought Zingali?
>
> ...bringing "titles" into it is jerk-off thinking, Stuart. Would you
> say the same about Sandra Opie? How foolish...the great Ray Baumgardt
> was part of the Madison team that won in '75, but you wouldn't work
> with him 'cause he only won once? I don't have the time,
> Stuart...your bucket is leaking pretty bad as it is...
Deep breath, Charlie. I wasn't suggesting their problem was winning
only one title. I was suggesting they couldn't have done it without
one guy who otherwise had nothing to do with their organization.
Which is a reflection of the fact that Star's staff, no matter how
hard they polish or how many music majors they attracted, had no
indigenous talent. Madison has since proven what we already knew
about them - that they are (were) an accomplished drum corps. The
same cannot be credibly said about Mason or anything he's been
associated with. Your steady diet of hype is affecting your thinking.
> I'm not sticking-up for DCI so much as calling you out on your agenda
> and the phony lengths you go to to put it out there...phooey...
Always a pleasure.
Stuart E. Rice
Jazzycat1
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:46:54 -0700 (PDT), Stu <choreoma...@juno.com>
>
> >Looks like we're all laughing here. You're laughing at me because I'm
> >different. I'm laughing at you because you're all the same.
>
> >George - all you DCI superfans, for that matter - you folks need to
> >smell the coffee and recognize you've been sold out (and for quite
> >some time now). What does BD 09 tell you? Why do you tolerate this
> >crap? Because "you love drum corps"? Love is a two-way street. The
> >alternative - loving something that betrays you at every step - is co-
> >dependance. If you want to "do it for the kids," or just pretend
> >these contests mean something because they validate your glory days,
> >its a free country. But its a terrible misallocation of human effort
> >and money, and a misrepresentation which some consider ugly. I don't
> >know what you think you're celebrating, but it isn't drum corps.
> >You're in denial.
>
> >Pal, we all love drum corps, and for different reasons - principally
> >drum, bugle, and guard, unless you were in it just for socializing.
> >How much more money and effort do you want to see flushed down the
> >toilet by these bandos just so you can get an increasingly rare
> >glimpse of what used to be? This activity doesn't believe in drum
> >corps anymore. Its all about crappy uniforms, rankings, and
> >attention. Begin the grieving process and get on with your life.
> >Give DCI's bastardized version of something once beautiful a chance to
> >correct itself. Then maybe we'll all have something to celebrate.
>
> >Stuart E. Rice
>
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Oh come on Charlie, I think Stu knows how to blow. I mean he really
does blow.