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Bobbie Sellers

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Apr 17, 2013, 10:56:28 PM4/17/13
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Sukeban Arashi 1 is on Manga Fpx

Sukeban Arashi 2 is coming next...

SUKEBAN ARASHI Manga
スケ番あらし
Released: Author & Artist Genre(s):
1977 Kurumada Masami School Life, Shounen

I find this really interesting and entertaining.
Sukeban means delinquent and Arashi is the heroine's name.
She does not like to study and prefers to sleep in class.
A rich girl with the usual chauffeur/bodyguard transfers
into her class and appropriates her desk. Oh yes and she
is your strong Karate shojo.

A precis of the story is below.

Further
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E There is an incident and Arashi never rats out anyone
so she takes the blame and we get to see the whole group
exclusion punishment applied. But the chauffeur driving
a Lincoln Continental for the rich girl assaults her
and leaves her lying at the side of the street, driving
over her school books. Then her friend Moe-chan confesses
that she caused the incident and for some reason the
foolish chauffeur returns. Rich girl trys to buy her
and she refuses in fine style the chauffer gets out of
the Lincoln and Arashi punishes him with her nun-chucks.

Then she catches hell at home from her family
who haven't heard Moe-chan's confession but the teacher's
report.
thas all folks
bliss

Kenneth M. Lin

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Apr 18, 2013, 1:08:06 AM4/18/13
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Kurumada is very famous for Ringu O Kakero (boxing manga) and Saint Seiya
(Knights of Zodiac in U.S.?).

Ringu is very interesting in that it started off as a very basic boxing
manga where the main character was learning how to throw a jab. Then all of
sudden everyone developed super powers where a punch could knock the
opponent one hundred feet into the air. Then it degenerated into constant
splash pages with zero character development but it was still very popular
nonetheless.

Saint Seiya must have made Kurumada very rich in toy licensing as every
character has a "cloth" that could transform into a sculpture depicting a
constellation and other item. If you look at eBay, they appears to have
created the action figures for all the characters in that series.

One thing that is very interesting about Japanese delinquent youths is that
once they are out of high school, they outgrow that phase and would most
often get a job and start living normally. Unlike America, the gang members
in Japan don't end up joining Yakuza when they get older. These days the
delinquents are often called "Yankees" perhaps because they dye their hair
blond. (I don't know what is the fascination Asians have with different
hair colors but it's very obvious in many manga and anime.)

If you like Sukeban manga, try Wada Shinji's (recently deceased at the age
of sixty) Sukeban Deka. Deka is a slang for cop and this is about a
"sukeban" that was recruited to work for police as an undercover informant.
Her signature weapon was a loaded yo-yo. I was very fortunate to find the
complete set at a used book sale for next to nothing.

"Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:kknn8a$kdq$1...@dont-email.me...

Gilles Poitras

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Apr 18, 2013, 10:03:31 AM4/18/13
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In article <no-dnbHO0pJv4vLM...@giganews.com>,
"Kenneth M. Lin" <kennet...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> These days the
> delinquents are often called "Yankees" perhaps because they dye their hair
> blond.

Yanki is an old Japanese term for delinquent that has no apparent
connection, other than sounding similar, to "Yankee"

BTW sukeban refers specifically to a type of delinquent girl, not to
delinquents in general.

--
Gilles Poitras
Profession: Librarian Obsession: Anime
http://www.koyagi.com
http://gillespoitras.blogspot.com/

Bobbie Sellers

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Apr 18, 2013, 10:25:51 AM4/18/13
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On 04/17/2013 10:08 PM, Kenneth M. Lin wrote:
> Kurumada is very famous for Ringu O Kakero (boxing manga) and Saint
> Seiya (Knights of Zodiac in U.S.?).
>
> Ringu is very interesting in that it started off as a very basic boxing
> manga where the main character was learning how to throw a jab. Then
> all of sudden everyone developed super powers where a punch could knock
> the opponent one hundred feet into the air. Then it degenerated into
> constant splash pages with zero character development but it was still
> very popular nonetheless.
>
> Saint Seiya must have made Kurumada very rich in toy licensing as every
> character has a "cloth" that could transform into a sculpture depicting
> a constellation and other item. If you look at eBay, they appears to
> have created the action figures for all the characters in that series.
>
> One thing that is very interesting about Japanese delinquent youths is
> that once they are out of high school, they outgrow that phase and would
> most often get a job and start living normally. Unlike America, the
> gang members in Japan don't end up joining Yakuza when they get older.
> These days the delinquents are often called "Yankees" perhaps because
> they dye their hair blond. (I don't know what is the fascination Asians
> have with different hair colors but it's very obvious in many manga and
> anime.)

Most of our delinquents don't end up in organized crime. Most find
reasonably honest work and do crime quietly on the side. You have
to be very bad and well connected to join a crime family. I am not
talking Crips and Bloods level here but the banking families that handle
the cash from the operations that the lower level criminals generate,
bribe judges and police officers.

>
> If you like Sukeban manga, try Wada Shinji's (recently deceased at the
> age of sixty) Sukeban Deka. Deka is a slang for cop and this is about a
> "sukeban" that was recruited to work for police as an undercover
> informant. Her signature weapon was a loaded yo-yo. I was very
> fortunate to find the complete set at a used book sale for next to nothing.

I covered the anime for Rob Kelk's primer, I believe. I watched
it because it is the show which the KOR gang attempt to recreate as a
live action film. In production though Kasuga slips and has to use his
powers where others can see him. So the production degenerates into
an attempt to force the "superhero" into the public eye.

bliss

>
> "Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:kknn8a$kdq$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>
> Sukeban Arashi 1 is on Manga Fpx
>
> Sukeban Arashi 2 is coming next...
>
> SUKEBAN ARASHI Manga
> スケ番あらし
> Released: Author & Artist Genre(s):
> 1977 Kurumada Masami School Life, Shounen
>
> I find this really interesting and entertaining.
> Sukeban means delinquent and Arashi is the heroine's name.
> She does not like to study and prefers to sleep in class.
> A rich girl with the usual chauffeur/bodyguard transfers
> into her class and appropriates her desk. Oh yes and she
> is your strong Karate shojo.
>

[snip of the rest of my little post]

Bobby Clark

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Apr 18, 2013, 10:48:39 AM4/18/13
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"Gilles Poitras" <For-add...@www.koyagi.com> wrote in message
news:For-address-see-13...@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <no-dnbHO0pJv4vLM...@giganews.com>,
> "Kenneth M. Lin" <kennet...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> These days the
>> delinquents are often called "Yankees" perhaps because they dye
>> their hair
>> blond.
>
> Yanki is an old Japanese term for delinquent that has no apparent
> connection, other than sounding similar, to "Yankee"
>
> BTW sukeban refers specifically to a type of delinquent girl, not to
> delinquents in general.

The Wiki states that its the boss girl, not any of the gril gang
members. The article author did not state what the members were
called. Any ideas?

Bobby

Bobbie Sellers

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Apr 18, 2013, 11:47:00 AM4/18/13
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On 04/18/2013 07:03 AM, Gilles Poitras wrote:
> In article <no-dnbHO0pJv4vLM...@giganews.com>,
> "Kenneth M. Lin" <kennet...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> These days the
>> delinquents are often called "Yankees" perhaps because they dye their hair
>> blond.
>
> Yanki is an old Japanese term for delinquent that has no apparent
> connection, other than sounding similar, to "Yankee"
>
> BTW sukeban refers specifically to a type of delinquent girl, not to
> delinquents in general.

Thanks for the correction.
But the Sukeban in Sukeban Deka has no gang so maybe
bad girl or tough girl would be more apt. At least Arashi is
using nun-chucks rather than a yoyo. She seems to be over-powered
in the way she knocks the chauffeur about.

How close to being a sukeban does Madoka get in KOR?
Depends on which Madoka in which parallel world I guess but
Kasuga keeps her from realizing her delinquent potential in
the everyday world of KOR.

I thought the connection between us Yankees and those
Yanki was the arrogant attitude the yanki display similar to
that of the occupying power. But the yanki don't care about
conventional values which is why they are free to go ahead
and dye their hair, act rudely as does the judoka yanki in
Yawara, and get into crime, et al. Some as Kenneth says get
over it and get regular jobs as they are not well enough
connected to get into the yakuza. Others join construction
companies which are often yakuza front companies.

bliss


Kenneth M. Lin

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Apr 18, 2013, 1:41:54 PM4/18/13
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"Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:kkovkr$vl6$1...@dont-email.me...
Most of our delinquents don't end up in organized crime. Most find
reasonably honest work and do crime quietly on the side. You have
to be very bad and well connected to join a crime family. I am not
talking Crips and Bloods level here but the banking families that handle
the cash from the operations that the lower level criminals generate,
bribe judges and police officers.

=====================

Bobbie, you must be kidding.

I often hear about a father that is still in the gang (in his 30s, no less)
giving his infant son a gang tattoo. Perhaps in this country they don't
have age discrimination so you could join a gang at age of age and stay with
it your entire life.

Also, in other countries guns are illegal so there's limit on how atrocious
you can be. There are random stabbings in Japan but no drive-by shootings.
I suppose most Japanese can't drive either.

In many manga these so called "fu-ryo" (no-good or delinquent) are the
center theme. Ban-cho is the guy in charge and often they make it appear as
they control the entire school, including faculties who are too scared to
confront them. They have a lot of school spirit so if you get bullied by a
gang from a different school, they might come to your aid.

I am using Window Live Mail and cannot figure out how to add ">" to the
original post. Can someone help me?

Bobbie Sellers

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Apr 18, 2013, 3:46:31 PM4/18/13
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On 04/18/2013 10:41 AM, Kenneth M. Lin wrote:
>
>
> "Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:kkovkr$vl6$1...@dont-email.me...
> Most of our delinquents don't end up in organized crime. Most find
> reasonably honest work and do crime quietly on the side. You have
> to be very bad and well connected to join a crime family. I am not
> talking Crips and Bloods level here but the banking families that handle
> the cash from the operations that the lower level criminals generate,
> bribe judges and police officers.
>
> =====================
>
> Bobbie, you must be kidding.
Not too much but I barely count youth gangs as really organized
crime. They represent to me an attempt to control the aggression
exercised against youth in general by creating semi-protective
organizations,
>
> I often hear about a father that is still in the gang (in his 30s, no
> less) giving his infant son a gang tattoo. Perhaps in this country they
> don't have age discrimination so you could join a gang at age of age and
> stay with it your entire life.

Yes but those are local gangs.
Not the same thing as really organized crime
>
> Also, in other countries guns are illegal so there's limit on how
> atrocious you can be. There are random stabbings in Japan but no
> drive-by shootings. I suppose most Japanese can't drive either.

Not in all other countries. I have owned several guns in
my lifetime and never had to shoot anyone but then my crimes are
hardly noticeable. ;^)
I learned to shoot in the military many years ago and
I have driven intruders from the apartment building where I live
many years back by presenting the proper stance and moving faster
than the intruders. Years ago before I got my refractory fatigue
syndrome and still was riding my motorcycle all over the state of
California.

Fpr a drive-by shooting you need a driver and a shooter.
Shooting and driving are each too important to be done by the
same individual. When road rage rules the shooter/driver almost
always misses the target.

>
> In many manga these so called "fu-ryo" (no-good or delinquent) are the
> center theme. Ban-cho is the guy in charge and often they make it
> appear as they control the entire school, including faculties who are
> too scared to confront them. They have a lot of school spirit so if you
> get bullied by a gang from a different school, they might come to your aid.

Well it makes a good story but I would imagine that in reality
such situation are far fewer than in manga.
>
> I am using Window Live Mail and cannot figure out how to add ">" to the
> original post. Can someone help me?

I don't know why you want to add the > to your mail but
when I add a url I insert via the keyboard a pair of "<>", cursor
between them and insert my copied url. I hope this helps as obviously
you can add ">" as you did above.

bliss

Kenneth M. Lin

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Apr 19, 2013, 1:34:24 AM4/19/13
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"Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:kkpie3$jfj$1...@dont-email.me...

>> I often hear about a father that is still in the gang (in his 30s, no
>> less) giving his infant son a gang tattoo. Perhaps in this country they
>> don't have age discrimination so you could join a gang at age of age and
>> stay with it your entire life.
>
> Yes but those are local gangs.
> Not the same thing as really organized crime

Well, let's not blame the local gangs for their lack of organizational and
marketing skills to expand. No matter how small a gang is, they still have
easy access to firearms in this country.

Some yakuza clans are quite wimpy too. I have read some manga where the
local yakuza group is pretty much only in charge of selling vendor permits
for matsuri (festival like obon dance) and having their own members running
some stands like selling tako-yaki or yaki-soba or that game where you scoop
up goldfish. There are often stories where a high-school girl must take
over a yakuza clan after her father dies or falls ill.

Then there are those in the polar opposite and have the territorial right to
entire Tokyo or something and rake in billion of yens a month.


Gilles Poitras

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Apr 19, 2013, 9:35:03 AM4/19/13
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In article
<For-address-see-13...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Gilles Poitras <For-add...@www.koyagi.com> wrote:

> Yanki is an old Japanese term for delinquent that has no apparent
> connection, other than sounding similar, to "Yankee"

An update sent to me by a friend in Japan, thanks Ono-san.


"A cogent theory about why the Japanese slang term 'yank?' means
'delinquent' is:

In the 70s and 80s, many delinquents and semi-delinquents hung out in
the America Mura (American Village) area in ?saka, and they bought
flashy clothes, which reminded people of rough uncultured American
persons, at shops in the area and wore them. Therefore people came to
call delinquents Yankees.

So it is probable that the Japanese slang term 'yank?' is derived from
the English word 'Yankee'. In fact, the Meiky? dictionary, a famous
Japanese-language dictionary, has the entry 'Yankee', and its definition
1 is 'American' and its definition 2 is 'delinquents and their
subculture which originated in the Kansai area'."

Kenneth M. Lin

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Apr 19, 2013, 1:20:39 PM4/19/13
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"Gilles Poitras" wrote in message
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============

Very interesting. When Japanese heard Americans saying "white (dress)
shirt," they started calling it y-shirt (wye-shatsu). If there're t-shirts,
why not y-shirts? It's called y-shirt even if it's of different color
because the origin is lost to them.

Also, sewing machine is called "machine" in Japan, except it's pronounced
"me-chine" to distinguish it from any other machine. Sort of like why we
call hot iron "iron" because it was made from iron.

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