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James Cunningham  
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 More options May 1 2006, 9:15 am
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From: James Cunningham <jameshcunning...@google.com>
Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 09:15:29 -0400
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 9:15 am
Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta
On 2006-05-01 08:57:36 -0400, Stuart Moore <N...@SPAM.HERE> said:

> An Internet Explorer dependency? Hmmm... does the Mac OS version require it?

Nope.  (Of course, it would be rather absurd ...)  IE stopped being
shipped with Macs at OS X 10.4, and I do not possess it.

I can't imagine what Windows Inform 7 requires IE6 for.  Viewing of help files?

Best,
James


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Stuart Moore  
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 More options May 1 2006, 9:25 am
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From: Stuart Moore <N...@SPAM.HERE>
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 14:25:12 +0100
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 9:25 am
Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta

James Cunningham wrote:
> On 2006-05-01 08:57:36 -0400, Stuart Moore <N...@SPAM.HERE> said:

>> An Internet Explorer dependency? Hmmm... does the Mac OS version
>> require it?

> Nope.  (Of course, it would be rather absurd ...)  IE stopped being
> shipped with Macs at OS X 10.4, and I do not possess it.

> I can't imagine what Windows Inform 7 requires IE6 for.  Viewing of help
> files?

If it uses CHM files for its documentation, then most likely.

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d.kin...@btinternet.com  
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 More options May 1 2006, 9:48 am
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From: d.kin...@btinternet.com
Date: 1 May 2006 06:48:50 -0700
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 9:48 am
Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta

James Cunningham wrote:
> I can't imagine what Windows Inform 7 requires IE6 for.  Viewing of help files?

Yes. The help, index and progress pages all show HTML, which is done
through IE. The requirement is not IE6, though: only IE5 or better.

David


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d.kin...@btinternet.com  
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 More options May 1 2006, 9:51 am
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From: d.kin...@btinternet.com
Date: 1 May 2006 06:51:36 -0700
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 9:51 am
Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta

eforg...@yahoo.fr wrote:
> I installed it on my wife's computer (xp), and copied the resulting
> files. I don't unsterstand why this .msi installer is so incompatible,
> I think also it won't be installable on win98 computers unless people
> install a bunch of new software.

It's been tested on a Windows 98 machine that had little installed on
it other than updates from Windows Update, and seemed fine.

> On Linux, I tried to run the extracted inform7.exe, and it required
> internet explorer :(
> I installed it (the IE6, I don't think it installed really well) with
> the winetools, and so I could see the main page of Inform 7. But when I
> started a new project, I couldn't go any further.

You'll have to provide a bit more detail to get any help, I think ...

David


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Stuart Moore  
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 More options May 1 2006, 10:01 am
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From: Stuart Moore <N...@SPAM.HERE>
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 15:01:10 +0100
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 10:01 am
Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta

d.kin...@btinternet.com wrote:
> James Cunningham wrote:
>> I can't imagine what Windows Inform 7 requires IE6 for.  Viewing of help files?

> Yes. The help, index and progress pages all show HTML, which is done
> through IE. The requirement is not IE6, though: only IE5 or better.

Yes, but the question then is: how well does IE5 install via WINE?

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d.kin...@btinternet.com  
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 More options May 1 2006, 10:31 am
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From: d.kin...@btinternet.com
Date: 1 May 2006 07:31:57 -0700
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Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta

Stuart Moore wrote:
> Yes, but the question then is: how well does IE5 install via WINE?

There I can't help you. Still, it can't be that uncommon a requirement
for Windows programs these days ...

David


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Lorenzo Marcantonio  
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From: Lorenzo Marcantonio <lomar...@tin.it>
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 16:42:54 +0200
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 10:42 am
Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta

Stuart Moore wrote:
> Yes, but the question then is: how well does IE5 install via WINE?

IIRC there was a way to install IE under WINE, but also IIRC it is not
permitted by the IE license (something like 'can be used only on a
windows operating system')

Google for "internet explorer" wine. Be careful since results varies
with the wine version in use...


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Stuart Moore  
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 More options May 1 2006, 10:45 am
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From: Stuart Moore <N...@SPAM.HERE>
Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 15:45:31 +0100
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 10:45 am
Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta

d.kin...@btinternet.com wrote:
> Stuart Moore wrote:
>> Yes, but the question then is: how well does IE5 install via WINE?

> There I can't help you. Still, it can't be that uncommon a requirement
> for Windows programs these days ...

Undoubtedly not. However, that doesn't help people who don't use Windows.

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Graham Nelson  
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From: "Graham Nelson" <gra...@gnelson.demon.co.uk>
Date: 1 May 2006 07:59:28 -0700
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 10:59 am
Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta
The OS X interface uses Apple's WebKit software to render HTML, I
believe: this is essentially the core of Apple's browser Safari, which
in turn derives from Konqueror. No copy of IE need be present on one's
machine, thankfully.

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Philipp Lenssen  
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 More options May 1 2006, 11:10 am
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From: "Philipp Lenssen" <philipp.lens...@gmail.com>
Date: 1 May 2006 08:10:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta
Great news, the approach looks very promising.

By the way, you guys might wanna change the Inform front-page... the
cover image, which loads before the navigation, is half a megabyte
big...


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Aramael Musitello  
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 More options May 1 2006, 11:20 am
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From: "Aramael Musitello" <aram...@gmail.com>
Date: 1 May 2006 08:20:21 -0700
Local: Mon, May 1 2006 11:20 am
Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta

Stuart Moore wrote:
> Aramael Musitello wrote:
> > Did you try that?  Cedega (5.1) doesn't seem to like the installer.

> Same with vanilla WINE.

I shall try the install on Windows/Copy over/sort out IE thing this
evening. Having played with it at work during a, um, break, I found the
interface breath-taking.  This is literate programming with a tuxedo.

> Haven't seen Haskell, so I have no clue.

Well, it's the old story: there's a programming language feature;
somebody mentions a language which has that feature, so somebody else
can't restrain herself from mentioning another language which also has
it, despite the lack of relevance.

A.


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eforg...@yahoo.fr  
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 More options May 1 2006, 11:52 am
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From: eforg...@yahoo.fr
Date: 1 May 2006 08:52:56 -0700
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Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta
I'm using the lastest Konqueror version 3.5.2 and on another computer,
version 3.5.1. On the other computer it looked fine at first, but after
a few pages it began to mixed up too. On "About IF" as you pointed it
out, but also on "Writing" (only 1 column). The "Download" part is
preserved, while on the 3.5.2 version it's also overlapping.
It's the 1st time I'm experiencing this on a webpage with konqueror.

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John W. Kennedy  
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 More options May 1 2006, 12:44 pm
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Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 12:44:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: Inform 7: Public Beta