T3 Workbench on OSX 10.5?
Jim Aikin
OSX, but there appear to be emulators (such as Wine) that can run
Windows apps. I've never tried installing or using one (though
OpenOffice uses something called X11, which seems to work, but I think
that's Unix, not Windows). Has anyone in the IF community tried
setting up one of these and running Workbench with it on a Mac? Does
it work? Any gotchas?
--Jim Aikin
P.S.: In case an explanation is needed, I have both Windows and Mac
laptops, but the Windows machine has an annoying acoustic buzz in its
case. If I'm going to relax in my easy chair while writing, I'd much
rather use the Mac.
James Cunningham
> I'm new to the Mac. I know TADS 3 Workbench doesn't run natively in
> OSX, but there appear to be emulators (such as Wine) that can run
> Windows apps. I've never tried installing or using one (though
> OpenOffice uses something called X11, which seems to work, but I think
> that's Unix, not Windows). Has anyone in the IF community tried
> setting up one of these and running Workbench with it on a Mac? Does
> it work? Any gotchas?
I tried it once, using the OS X Wine port Darwine (builds are available
from a number of places on the net -- eg
http://www.kronenberg.org/darwine/). The workbench certainly did work,
after a fashion, but there were very annoying problems -- I believe
that every time I hit "enter" the window would jump downward a notch.
So you constantly had to be dragging it back up, rendering it nearly
unusable as an editor and a player.
It may be worth another try to see if things have changed since then,
but that was only a few months ago.
That's pretty much the only way to get the workbench running on OS X,
as far as I know, without actually installing Windows somehow (e.g.
dual booting or running Windows through a virtual machine). Whether
that's worth it is up to you, but it's sort of an expensive option.
Best,
James
Khelwood
> On 2008-09-30 17:35:50 -0400, Jim Aikin <midigur...@gmail.com> said:
>
> > I'm new to the Mac. I know TADS 3 Workbench doesn't run natively in
> > OSX, but there appear to be emulators (such as Wine) that can run
> > Windows apps. I've never tried installing or using one (though
> > OpenOffice uses something called X11, which seems to work, but I think
> > that's Unix, not Windows). Has anyone in the IF community tried
> > setting up one of these and running Workbench with it on a Mac? Does
> > it work? Any gotchas?
>
> I tried it once, using the OS X Wine port Darwine (builds are available
> after a fashion, but there were very annoying problems -- I believe
> that every time I hit "enter" the window would jump downward a notch.
> So you constantly had to be dragging it back up, rendering it nearly
> unusable as an editor and a player.
>
> It may be worth another try to see if things have changed since then,
> but that was only a few months ago.
>
> That's pretty much the only way to get the workbench running on OS X,
> as far as I know, without actually installing Windows somehow (e.g.
> dual booting or running Windows through a virtual machine). Whether
> that's worth it is up to you, but it's sort of an expensive option.
>
> Best,
> James
Parallels Desktop is very useful from that point of view. That's what
I use for TADS workbench and for htmlTADS.
RootShell (IFReviews.org)
Well I think the best thing (option) would be fix (or ask/pay someone
to) the problem with the windows laptop ;)
there's paralels, which for what i could understan emulates windows on a
mac, but i would like to point you in the 'free' direction of VirtualBox...
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VirtualBox
Check it out... It's really easy to use and very fast in emulation speed.
You can install a windowsXP virtual drive and only use it (in less than
10 secs>) when you need it :)
Regards,
RootShell