Copyright
Andrew Plotkin
> Has the copyright expired on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? I thought it
> would make a fantastic game.
Yes. Robert Louis Stevenson died in 1894.
A good way to check this sort of thing is to search Gutenberg, the project
that's creating on-line versions of public domain texts. If they've got
it, you can snarf it.
http://sailor.gutenberg.org/by-author.html
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Steven Jones
John Hill
>
> Steven Jones <ste...@tsn.cc> wrote:
> > Has the copyright expired on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? I thought it
> > would make a fantastic game.
>
>
> A good way to check this sort of thing is to search Gutenberg, the project
> that's creating on-line versions of public domain texts. If they've got
> it, you can snarf it.
>
> http://sailor.gutenberg.org/by-author.html
Hey...Rudyard Kipling, Jules Verne, Alexis de Toqueville.
Cool...
Andy Leighton
>Steven Jones <ste...@tsn.cc> wrote:
>> Has the copyright expired on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? I thought it
>> would make a fantastic game.
>
>Yes. Robert Louis Stevenson died in 1894.
>
>A good way to check this sort of thing is to search Gutenberg, the project
>that's creating on-line versions of public domain texts. If they've got
>it, you can snarf it.
It is a good yardstick but not always correct.
For instance Peter Pan is still copyright in the UK (and will not
fall out of copyright due to a special arrangement).
Also a number of the authors that are free of copyright in the US are still
in copyright in the UK (and most of western Europe).
Take for instance H.G. Wells - there are many examples of his works
in the Gutenberg collections.
However Wells died in 1946. The law was changed from Life+50 to Life+70
in 1995. This means all of Wells' works will be copyright to 2016
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Andrew Plotkin
> On 28 Nov 1999 21:42:29 GMT, Andrew Plotkin <erky...@netcom.com> wrote:
>>Steven Jones <ste...@tsn.cc> wrote:
>>> Has the copyright expired on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? I thought it
>>> would make a fantastic game.
>>
>>Yes. Robert Louis Stevenson died in 1894.
>>
>>A good way to check this sort of thing is to search Gutenberg, the project
>>that's creating on-line versions of public domain texts. If they've got
>>it, you can snarf it.
>
> It is a good yardstick but not always correct.
>
> For instance Peter Pan is still copyright in the UK (and will not
> fall out of copyright due to a special arrangement).
Good point. The Gutenberg has a note about this, and they claim their
version is public-domain in the US, but "they are not a lawyer".
> Also a number of the authors that are free of copyright in the US are still
> in copyright in the UK (and most of western Europe).
>
> Take for instance H.G. Wells - there are many examples of his works
> in the Gutenberg collections.
>
> However Wells died in 1946. The law was changed from Life+50 to Life+70
> in 1995. This means all of Wells' works will be copyright to 2016
Hrm, that law -- I assume you're talking about US law -- was changed in
1998, not 1995. (See
http://www.public.asu.edu/~dkarjala/legmats/S505-final.html)
And the law was previously changed in 1978, from some different set of
rules I don't remember, so Wells falls under exceptions from that earlier
set. If I read this guy's page correctly, the (current) rule for works
published prior to 1964 is "95 years from date of publication" -- the
author's lifetime is irrelevant.
Gunther Schmidl
God damn it, we really need rec.arts.int-fiction.copyright-threads, and it'd
get more traffic than raif and rgif together.
Same could be said for Muldoon threads, only they're actually relevant and
haven't been done a trillion times before.
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Andrew Plotkin
> Will you PLEASE. STOP. THIS. RIGHT. NOW.
No.
I was replying to a relevant point, and I was posting information that I
don't believe has been discussed in previous copyright threads.
Gunther Schmidl
news:823cbt$fq1$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
> Gunther Schmidl <gsch...@xxx.gmx.at> wrote:
> > Will you PLEASE. STOP. THIS. RIGHT. NOW.
>
> No.
>
> I was replying to a relevant point, and I was posting information that I
> don't believe has been discussed in previous copyright threads.
This wasn't directed at you alone, but at the copyright thread in general.
Sorry, but I'm *really* sick of having one every two weeks.
Kathleen M. Fischer
Andrew Plotkin <erky...@netcom.com> wrote:
> Steven Jones <ste...@tsn.cc> wrote:
> > Has the copyright expired on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? I thought it
> > would make a fantastic game.
>
> Yes. Robert Louis Stevenson died in 1894.
>
> A good way to check this sort of thing is to search Gutenberg, the
> project that's creating on-line versions of public domain texts. If
> they've got it, you can snarf it.
>
Cool! I'd been thinking of adapting a short story to IF as a coding
exercise to try out some ideas, but dreaded having to retype it. As luck
would have it, there it was!
Thanks for the pointer :)
Kathleen
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Schmidl).wrote.posted.offered:
>"Andrew Plotkin" <erky...@netcom.com> wrote in message
>news:823cbt$fq1$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net...
>> Gunther Schmidl <gsch...@xxx.gmx.at> wrote:
>> > Will you PLEASE. STOP. THIS. RIGHT. NOW.
>>
>> No.
>>
>> I was replying to a relevant point, and I was posting information that I
>> don't believe has been discussed in previous copyright threads.
>
>This wasn't directed at you alone, but at the copyright thread in general.
>Sorry, but I'm *really* sick of having one every two weeks.
So ignore such threads, or configure your newsreader to ignore them for
you, or get a newsreader which is capable of doing so.
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> This wasn't directed at you alone, but at the copyright thread in
> general.
> Sorry, but I'm *really* sick of having one every two weeks.
So use restraint and don't read them, or employ a killfile.
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Andy Leighton
>Andy Leighton <an...@azaal.dircon.co.uk> wrote:
>> Take for instance H.G. Wells - there are many examples of his works
>> in the Gutenberg collections.
>>
>> However Wells died in 1946. The law was changed from Life+50 to Life+70
>> in 1995. This means all of Wells' works will be copyright to 2016
>
>Hrm, that law -- I assume you're talking about US law -- was changed in
Nope, EU/UK law - it is far more relevant to me as I live in the UK (and in
the post I was talking about the UK and EU).
It will also affect US IF authors if they are thinking about uploading
their work to if-archive.
>1998, not 1995. (See
>http://www.public.asu.edu/~dkarjala/legmats/S505-final.html)
>
>And the law was previously changed in 1978, from some different set of
>rules I don't remember, so Wells falls under exceptions from that earlier
>set. If I read this guy's page correctly, the (current) rule for works
>published prior to 1964 is "95 years from date of publication" -- the
>author's lifetime is irrelevant.
That can't be right (even for the US) - the Gutenberg project includes
_The War In The Air_ which was first published in 1908 in Britain
(and probably later than that in the US).
http://www.benedict.com/basic/public/public.html seems to indicate
that anything published more than 75 years ago in the US has had its
copyright period expire.
As many (hi Gunther) have noticed, copyright is a complex and somewhat
uninteresting subject. It is however vital to understand the rules
if you want to write IF treatments of literature.
Sean T Barrett
>As many (hi Gunther) have noticed, copyright is a complex and somewhat
>uninteresting subject. It is however vital to understand the rules
>if you want to write IF treatments of literature.
It is also vital if you want to write a play, a radio play,
a screenplay, a short story adaptation, or just about any
other sort of treatment of the literature. There is nothing
specific to IF about the discussion.
Such a justification for saying this discussion is on
topic for r.a.i-f is like saying "Good grammar and spelling
are important if you want to write IF, so that justifies
long involved discussions of grammar and spelling".
And don't tell me to get a smarter newsreader. That
argument is patently false, as taking it to its logical
conclusion would result in a single newsgroup containing
every thread in Usenet. The newsgroup line is the primary
way of divvying up threads based on *content*. Use it.
If you want to talk to some particular person, email them.
If you want to talk to a couple people who have been
posting about the subject matter on a specific newsgroup,
post a pointer to the newsgroup that you've diverted the
thread to; anyone who wants to talk or read about it will
go there.
Sean B
J. Holder
news.readers.philosophy
and crossposted to
rec.offtopic.threads.rant.rant.rant
Your argument becomes absurd the moment you posted it to this group.
*sigh*
John
Sean T Barrett (buz...@world.std.com) wrote:
> Such a justification for saying this discussion is on
> topic for r.a.i-f is like saying "Good grammar and spelling
> are important if you want to write IF, so that justifies
> long involved discussions of grammar and spelling".
> And don't tell me to get a smarter newsreader. That
> argument is patently false, as taking it to its logical
> conclusion would result in a single newsgroup containing
> every thread in Usenet. The newsgroup line is the primary
> way of divvying up threads based on *content*. Use it.
> If you want to talk to some particular person, email them.
> If you want to talk to a couple people who have been
> posting about the subject matter on a specific newsgroup,
> post a pointer to the newsgroup that you've diverted the
> thread to; anyone who wants to talk or read about it will
> go there.
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