Who are your picks of the 2 scariest horror movie monsters ?
Nev
screen, or were always unseen, what are your picks so far of the 2
scariest (whatever your definition of that is) horror cinema monsters
(as opposed to any you regard as a favorite for being cool, but you
never really considered it scary) and please say why, for anyone
named.
Jack Tingle
was the largest, stupidest, rudest, most ignorant wiener I ever saw. It
was funny though when it wandered from movies to books. The look on its
ugly, brainless face as it realized it had no chance of ever learning to
read* was priceless.
Regards,
Jack Tingle
*Based on putting a post with 'movie' in the subject on rec.arts.sf.written.
Gene
303812...@l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com:
The alien from Alien, and Hannibal Lecter from Silence of the
Lambs.
veritas
'On the Beach' scared the crap out of me.
Number two is that CRAZY MAN IN THE TRUCK! Duel. Directed by Steven
Spielberg.
il...@rcn.com
1. The psycho from "The Hitcher". A lot scarier than even Hannibal
Lecter.
2. The unidentifiable evil in "Event Horizon".
Marv Soloff
Two Clouzot films - "Les Diabolique" (France - 1955) and
"Le Salaire de la peur" aka "The
Wages of Fear" (France - 1953)
Two first class scrotum tighteners. No monsters, no chainsaws; both will
scare the living daylights out of you.
Marv
TBerk
Taking into account when I 1st saw it I nominate
- the Tingler w/ Vincent Price.
and
- the nasty crap that was the second coming of 'the Thing', Carpenter
version.
TBerk
Don Bruder
<0258274b-2ee5-4292...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
TBerk <bayar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Which brings to mind a TV show I saw as a kid - A *VERY SMALL* kid - I'd
guess I saw it sometime between 1969 and 1972, which would have made me
somewhere between 4 and 7 years old. Probably closer to 4 than 7. *LATE
NIGHT* sci-fi/horror flick - Maybe something like the old "Circle of
Fear", or "Night Gallery"? Not sure if it was a movie, or an episode
from a series. All the details I can remember clearly enough to type:
The "monster" was a black box - guesstimate 2 feet high/wide by 3 feet
long. Self-propelled, with no visible means of propulsion. (no wheels -
it just moved with a sliding noise) Moved on its long side. Somehow able
to go up and down stairs. Ker-thump. Ker-thump. Malevolent, and
apparently used an electrical charge of some sort to do evil things to
people - I can remember a man and a woman in a house, trying to hide
from it. The man let it get too close/he got too close to it, and the
box "lit up" with something like st. elmo's fire, and the man got zapped
(Killed? Just knocked out? Not sure.) by a sizzling beam from the corner
of the box.
That's all I've got...
Anybody recognize it?
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whessoe
"Don Bruder" <dak...@sonic.net> wrote
>
> Which brings to mind a TV show I saw as a kid - A *VERY SMALL* kid - I'd
> guess I saw it sometime between 1969 and 1972, which would have made me
> somewhere between 4 and 7 years old. Probably closer to 4 than 7. *LATE
> NIGHT* sci-fi/horror flick - Maybe something like the old "Circle of
> Fear", or "Night Gallery"? Not sure if it was a movie, or an episode
> from a series. All the details I can remember clearly enough to type:
> The "monster" was a black box - guesstimate 2 feet high/wide by 3 feet
> long. Self-propelled, with no visible means of propulsion. (no wheels -
> it just moved with a sliding noise) Moved on its long side. Somehow able
> to go up and down stairs. Ker-thump. Ker-thump. Malevolent, and
> apparently used an electrical charge of some sort to do evil things to
> people - I can remember a man and a woman in a house, trying to hide
> from it. The man let it get too close/he got too close to it, and the
> box "lit up" with something like st. elmo's fire, and the man got zapped
> (Killed? Just knocked out? Not sure.) by a sizzling beam from the corner
> of the box.
>
> That's all I've got...
>
> Anybody recognize it?
The story sounds very similar to "The Travelling Grave" by L.P. Hartley. I
will look into this.
whessoe
Howard Brazee
wrote:
Costumed monsters don't work for me.
So I would say Hannibal Lector from Silence of the Lambs, and seeing
it in the first release in the San Francisco Fox - Maleficent from
_Sleeping Beauty_.
Flasherly
Monstrosities of a hypothetical bane that visit pestilence upon
mankind - heralding plague and scourge, death dealers and stalkers
behind every footstep, watching and waiting to move in. Sauron, Tim
Curry, the Lord of Darkness, Sting, after Bowie and McDowell turned
down Marin for Brimstone and Treache, all, great monsters because of a
mythic proportions surrounding them through time and across culture.
Interjected into a personal sphere of daunting unfamiliarity, the pale
pasty fetid pallor of defining a woman squatting on a public beach,
pissing before her provider she's subject and lover, easel propped and
ready, swiping irreverently great gobs of glorious colors from a paint-
laden brush momentarily across the tongue in added viscosity. Poised
and scared, in some movie I forgot the title already. Anything else
in particular you're looking for?
whessoe
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2. Keyser Soze
Bonestructure
> I'd guess I saw it sometime between 1969 and 1972, which would have
> made me somewhere between 4 and 7 years old. Probably closer to 4 than
> 7. *LATE NIGHT* sci-fi/horror flick - Maybe something like the old
> "Circle of Fear", or "Night Gallery"? Not sure if it was a movie, or
> an episode from a series. All the details I can remember clearly
> enough to type: The "monster" was a black box - guesstimate 2 feet
> high/wide by 3 feet long. Self-propelled, with no visible means of
> propulsion. (no wheels - it just moved with a sliding noise) Moved on
> its long side. Somehow able to go up and down stairs. Ker-thump.
> Ker-thump. Malevolent, and apparently used an electrical charge of
> some sort to do evil things to people - I can remember a man and a
> woman in a house, trying to hide from it. The man let it get too
> close/he got too close to it, and the box "lit up" with something like
> st. elmo's fire, and the man got zapped (Killed? Just knocked out? Not
> sure.) by a sizzling beam from the corner of the box.
>
> That's all I've got...
>
> Anybody recognize it?
>
It sounds to me like an episode of Outer Limits
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Bonestructure
$Ri....@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com:
> I don't know about my all-time picks, but I saw "Curse of the Demon"
> (1957) for the first time a year or two ago and, damn, that was a scary
> monster. :)
>
That was a pretty decent monster for the time
rcp
Klownzilla from _Killer Klowns From Outer Space_
donny
alien and predator.
Bill Steele
he was unstoppable. No stake in the heart, no kryptonite, nuthin.
(Huh! my spellchecker recognizes "kryptonite.")
The Wanderer
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Anim8rFSK
Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net> wrote:
That's interesting. Sleeping Beauty is the first film I recall seeing
in a theater; probably the old Phoenix FOX downtown, which looked like
the place they tape Siskel & Ebert. I remember we got there early and
the lobby was shaking, and I was scared about that. And we went in
early and saw the dragon fight first. But I wasn't scared at all. I
sat rock still, mesmerized, trying not to blink so I didn't miss a frame
(not that I knew what a frame was). Dad tried to get me to move when
the dragon fight started again ("this is where we came in") but I had a
death grip on the armrests and wouldn't even turn to look at him. I
went out as Mal that Halloween (the dragon costume proving too
difficult) having no idea I was walking around in drag. She called to
me, she thrilled me, but she didn't scare me.
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No Shat, No Show.
Jerry Brown
wrote:
Sounds a bit like The Avengers episode "Thingumajig" from 1969,
although being an Avengers episode it was played fairly
light-heartedly. IIRC the device is finally stopped by throwing the
plugs of electrical appliances at it, which stick to it and drain its
power.
Jerry Brown
--
A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)
Howard Brazee
wrote:
>That's interesting. Sleeping Beauty is the first film I recall seeing
>in a theater; probably the old Phoenix FOX downtown, which looked like
>the place they tape Siskel & Ebert. I remember we got there early and
>the lobby was shaking, and I was scared about that. And we went in
>early and saw the dragon fight first. But I wasn't scared at all. I
>sat rock still, mesmerized, trying not to blink so I didn't miss a frame
>(not that I knew what a frame was). Dad tried to get me to move when
>the dragon fight started again ("this is where we came in") but I had a
>death grip on the armrests and wouldn't even turn to look at him. I
>went out as Mal that Halloween (the dragon costume proving too
>difficult) having no idea I was walking around in drag. She called to
>me, she thrilled me, but she didn't scare me.
I sometimes wish someone would go to that kind of effort to let me
sleep...
TBerk
> Anne Hathaway
Oh, now. Given that she is a cross between humans and aliens from
outer space (the benevolent kind), she is still a lovely way to die,
don't you think?
> and George Lucas
Well, natch.
TBerk
argento32
Michael Myers(original Halloween)
Killer from original Black Christmas...
As for George Lucas..damn now i'm gonna have Star Wars prequel
nightmares again...
FoggyTown
I gotta go with the monster in "Night Of The Demon". What made it
even scarier was that, up until the end, its presence was only
suggested or off camera.
FoggyTown
moviePig
Good remake candidate, btw. Great little story for those unfamiliar,
and a frequent favorite of those not...
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lal_truckee
> "Le Salaire de la peur" aka "The Wages of Fear" (France - 1953)
> scare the living daylights out of you.
Avoid the Roy Scheider remake - no apprehension at all.
deering
> Good remake candidate, btw. Great little story for those unfamiliar,
> and a frequent favorite of those not...
Argh--oh, _hell_ no. There's no way remakers could resist FX-hyping
this. What makes the original scary is its subtle, stealthy menace.
C.
**
(What--you _want_ McG or even Stephen Sommers doing this? :b)
moviePig
With that warm reception so far, I might as well complete the insult:
In the back of my mind, I was actually relating the story's ambience
to the sort of supernatural thrillers the Japanese have been pretty
good at in recent years, i.e., with menace, creepiness, and rules that
have to be figured out. And, of course, the Japanese seem to have too
much sense and/or too little budget to "hype the f/x". (We'll
overlook any passing resemblance between Tourneur's demon and
Godzilla...)
deering
> On May 27, 4:
> With that warm reception so far,
Heh...
> I might as well complete the insult:
> In the back of my mind, I was actually relating the story's ambience
> to the sort of supernatural thrillers the Japanese have been pretty
> good at in recent years, i.e., with menace, creepiness, and rules that
> have to be figured out. And, of course, the Japanese seem to have too
> much sense and/or too little budget to "hype the f/x". (We'll
> overlook any passing resemblance between Tourneur's demon and
> Godzilla...)
But there's a difference in terms of culture (and supernatural
motivation) between contemporary Japanese horror and the kind of
neo-Victorian/based-in-English-legend scare stuff that NOTD is from.
Japanese horror is (partly) about the supernatural as a kind of
emotional virus--it's not as rooted in cultural beliefs being shattered
or skeptics becoming believers. British horror like NOTD (which is based
on one of the Victorian era's best ghost stories, CASTING THE RUNES, by
M. R. James) is about heavy-duty rationality and belief under siege from
supernatural forces. NOTD works so well because it shows staid British
events and settings--children's parties, manor houses, London streets,
villages--increasingly disturbed by very British horror elements--devil
cults, runes, sorcerers. I'm no expert on Japanese culture, but it
doesn't seem like there are enough equivalent points between it and
British culture for NOTD to work as well tranferred.
C.
**
Derek Janssen
Japanese horror (we'll also overlook Godzilla, his being a friend and
protector of the earth) tends to be more rooted in Japan's own ancient
culturally-obsessive fears of fate, disgruntled ghosts, and having one's
death inescapably predicted by opening the wrong door--Hence the
urban-legend obsession with cursed photos, cursed cellphones, cursed
websites, cursed VHS tapes, cursed high-school lockers, and all
predicting doom by the calendar.
Except for NOTD/Runes, you don't see the "doom" idea too much in English
culture--
NOTD seems to be more on the English traditionalism for
eerie-Stonehenge, and what if all the "rot" of their quaint Druidic
tourist-ruin forebearers really had been onto something?
Which gives it that spooky-vs.-civilized edge that works better on this
hemisphere.
Derek Janssen
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> screen, or were always unseen, what are your picks so far of the 2
> scariest (whatever your definition of that is) horror cinema monsters
> (as opposed to any you regard as a favorite for being cool, but you
> never really considered it scary) and please say why, for anyone
> named.
The Woman in Black
Gene
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> NOTD works so well because it shows staid British
> events and settings--children's parties, manor houses, London
streets,
> villages--increasingly disturbed by very British horror
elements--devil
> cults, runes, sorcerers.
I don't think that's specifically British, nor does it need to
be. Just some degree of cultural resonance. The golem in "It!"
I thought was pretty creepy, for instance, and mummies and
ancient Egyptian curses have long been popular.
"He who will find the secret of my life at his feet, him
will I serve until beyond time.
"He who shall evoke me in the 17th century, beware, for I
cannot by fire be destroyed.
"He who shall evoke me in the 18th century, beware, for I
cannot by fire or by water be destroyed.
"He who evokes me in the 19th century, beware, for I cannot
by fire or by water or by force be destroyed.
"He who in the 20th century shall dare evoke me, beware,
for neither by fire, nor water, nor force, nor anthing by man
created can I be destroyed.
"He who in the 21st century evokes me must be of God's hand
himself because on this earth the person of man existeth no
more."
Jared
> Japanese horror (we'll also overlook Godzilla, his being a friend and
> protector of the earth) tends to be more rooted in Japan's own ancient
> culturally-obsessive fears of fate, disgruntled ghosts, and having one's
> death inescapably predicted by opening the wrong door--Hence the
> urban-legend obsession with cursed photos, cursed cellphones, cursed
> websites, cursed VHS tapes, cursed high-school lockers, and all
> predicting doom by the calendar.
>
> Except for NOTD/Runes, you don't see the "doom" idea too much in English
> culture--...
When you put it like that, cursed bits of paper sounds like perfect
Japanese remake territory. In fact I think they've already done it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419280/
And now that I think of it, the "cure" to the Ringu videotape is
pretty rune-ish.
Of course the great thing about Demon/Runes is that it's not an
uncaring fate that's siccing the monster on you, it's a nasty bloke.
Whereas the human characters are almost incidental is so much J-Horror
(look at Ju-on), NOTD is at heart a battle between two men.
Howard Brazee
And the first version to come out in America. The full version is
better.
Bill Steele
<ee13fd3d-c933-44a8...@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Jared <bi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Of course the great thing about Demon/Runes is that it's not an
> uncaring fate that's siccing the monster on you, it's a nasty bloke.
> Whereas the human characters are almost incidental is so much J-Horror
> (look at Ju-on), NOTD is at heart a battle between two men.
Before this goes any further, can we get that back to COTD?
deering
> Japanese horror (we'll also overlook Godzilla, his being a friend and
> protector of the earth) tends to be more rooted in Japan's own ancient
> culturally-obsessive fears of fate, disgruntled ghosts, and having one's
> death inescapably predicted by opening the wrong door--Hence the
> urban-legend obsession with cursed photos, cursed cellphones, cursed
> websites, cursed VHS tapes, cursed high-school lockers,
"Cursed high-school lockers?" Which movie was that? I know I'm behind on
my J-horror, but jeez...:) ;)
> Except for NOTD/Runes, you don't see the "doom" idea too much in English
> culture--
> NOTD seems to be more on the English traditionalism for
> eerie-Stonehenge, and what if all the "rot" of their quaint Druidic
> tourist-ruin forebearers really had been onto something?
Yep. Japanese culture doesn't generally dismiss its myths, spirits, and
old religions as superstitious nonsense. There is still a great deal of
reverence and respect for those things...and among all classes. Great
Britian is a culture where rationalism and classism held great sway (and
still does, to a degree)--and where different religions were revered and
discredited in ongoing cycles. As a result, to admit that you believe
that "trick or treat" was originally a ceremony where children were
sacrificed to ensure fertile crops, or that there were beings the Druids
summoned up that are still lurking underneath ancient ruins meant you
were either lower-class superstitious, uneducated...or didn't live in
that bastion of civilized living, London. :)
> Which gives it that spooky-vs.-civilized edge that works better on this
> hemisphere.
Yeah, A J-Horrorized NOTD kinda misses the point.
C.
**
moviePig
> Derek Janssen wrote:
> > Japanese horror (we'll also overlook Godzilla, his being a friend and
> > protector of the earth) tends to be more rooted in Japan's own ancient
> > culturally-obsessive fears of fate, disgruntled ghosts, and having one's
> > death inescapably predicted by opening the wrong door--Hence the
> > urban-legend obsession with cursed photos, cursed cellphones, cursed
> > websites, cursed VHS tapes, cursed high-school lockers,
>
> "Cursed high-school lockers?" Which movie was that? I know I'm behind on
> my J-horror, but jeez...:) ;)
Sterotypical Oriental mispronunciation. He meant 'rockers'...
> > Except for NOTD/Runes, you don't see the "doom" idea too much in English
> > culture--
> > NOTD seems to be more on the English traditionalism for
> > eerie-Stonehenge, and what if all the "rot" of their quaint Druidic
> > tourist-ruin forebearers really had been onto something?
>
> Yep. Japanese culture doesn't generally dismiss its myths, spirits, and
> old religions as superstitious nonsense. There is still a great deal of
> reverence and respect for those things...and among all classes. Great
> Britian is a culture where rationalism and classism held great sway (and
> still does, to a degree)--and where different religions were revered and
> discredited in ongoing cycles. As a result, to admit that you believe
> that "trick or treat" was originally a ceremony where children were
> sacrificed to ensure fertile crops, or that there were beings the Druids
> summoned up that are still lurking underneath ancient ruins meant you
> were either lower-class superstitious, uneducated...or didn't live in
> that bastion of civilized living, London. :)
>
> > Which gives it that spooky-vs.-civilized edge that works better on this
> > hemisphere.
>
> Yeah, A J-Horrorized NOTD kinda misses the point.
Nobody's suggesting the NOTD's sorcerer wear a kabuki mask. And,
remember that Perry Mason's Godzilla was anything but a "friend of the
Earth". The Japanese can certainly do culture-free scary. (Best
example: THE RING.) I'd just like to transplant their horror-
technique ...which right now surpasses Hollywood's. Yeah, NOTD's
Druid(?) backstory, which wouldn't emigrate well, might give it a bit
of weight... but nowhere near as much as with, say, WICKER MAN, imo.
What sucks us into both Tourneur's movie and James's story isn't
Lovecraftian Stonehenge monoliths towering ominously behind the
shrubbery, but rather the simple mechanics of the juvenile spell...
not unlike a silly videotape you musn't watch...
Sea Wasp
> Derek Janssen wrote:
>
>> Japanese horror (we'll also overlook Godzilla, his being a friend and
>> protector of the earth)
Except when he's an uncaring force of nature, or an incarnation of
the fury of the dead of WWII.
>> tends to be more rooted in Japan's own ancient
>> culturally-obsessive fears of fate, disgruntled ghosts, and having
>> one's death inescapably predicted by opening the wrong door--
Note that the original conception/depiction of Gojira-sama not only
embodied the nuclear bomb, but the tsunami, typhoon, and earthquake in
a single being.
>> Which gives it that spooky-vs.-civilized edge that works better on
>> this hemisphere.
>
>
> Yeah, A J-Horrorized NOTD kinda misses the point.
J-Horror isn't ALL that different from ours. But they usually have
cooler babes.
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Jared
> Before this goes any further, can we get that back to COTD?
Not yet, cause I want to nominate the creepy kid from JU-ON as on of
my scariest horror movie monsters. Number two is a bit of a cheat -
the rage virus from 28 DAYS LATER.
As much as I love ?OTD I have to admit to finding the demon itself
kind of cute. I know some people think they should never have shown
it - personally I like that they did, but I can't say it's ever
featured in any of my nightmares. Unlike that freaky little kid.
Halmyre
> In article
> <ee13fd3d-c933-44a8-9546-c589a73c6...@w5g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
But NOTD = original film. COTD = butchered version of NOTD intended to
run as second feature in a double bill.
--
Halmyre
dclizardking
HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN and NICHOLAS CAGE both send shivers down my spine.
moviePig
Somewhere in my gut there lives a gatekeeper who divides all horror
movies into those that show the devil and those that don't. And that
gatekeeper's significance isn't the difficulty of his task -- it's
easy -- but rather where he lives. Scary stuff that doesn't make
seeing believing always *feels* to me like a cop-out. (Alas, this
niggle applies even to admittedly great stuff like CAT PEOPLE. Sue
me.)
David Oberman
>Somewhere in my gut there lives a gatekeeper who divides all horror
>movies into those that show the devil and those that don't. And that
>gatekeeper's significance isn't the difficulty of his task -- it's
>easy -- but rather where he lives. Scary stuff that doesn't make
>seeing believing always *feels* to me like a cop-out. (Alas, this
>niggle applies even to admittedly great stuff like CAT PEOPLE. Sue
>me.)
I also find some things frightening, or at least creepy, that seem
designed to have a slightly different purpose: for example, the tunnel
segment in Kurosawa's DREAMS
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"David Oberman" <doberman@etc.> wrote
>
> I also find some things frightening, or at least creepy, that seem
> designed to have a slightly different purpose: for example, the tunnel
> segment in Kurosawa's DREAMS
A wonderful film.
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moviePig
> moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> >Somewhere in my gut there lives a gatekeeper who divides all horror
> >movies into those that show the devil and those that don't. And that
> >gatekeeper's significance isn't the difficulty of his task -- it's
> >easy -- but rather where he lives. Scary stuff that doesn't make
> >seeing believing always *feels* to me like a cop-out. (Alas, this
> >niggle applies even to admittedly great stuff like CAT PEOPLE. Sue
> >me.)
>
> I also find some things frightening, or at least creepy, that seem
> designed to have a slightly different purpose: for example, the tunnel
> segment in Kurosawa's DREAMS
I discovered an unexpectedly horrific moment in the otherwise
decidedly sub-par TANK GIRL ('95), when the villainous Malcolm
McDowell merely *threatens* to suffocate our heroine by lowering her
into the ground head-first into a miles-long smooth tube whose
diameter decreases very gradually to less than a human body's. Iirc,
he never does it, nor do we even see it... but the mere description
awakened a claustrophobia new to me... (which has obviously lasted...)
DCar...@aol.com
A wonderful film.
Even better than DePalma's tunnel segment in "Body Double"????!!!!!
Dennis C from Tennessee
Derek Janssen
>>
>>>I also find some things frightening, or at least creepy, that seem
>>>designed to have a slightly different purpose: for example, the tunnel
>>>segment in Kurosawa's DREAMS
>>
>>A wonderful film.
>
> I also find some things frightening, or at least creepy, that seem
>
>>designed to have a slightly different purpose: for example, the tunnel
>>segment in Kurosawa's DREAMS
>
> A wonderful film.
And which segment had actually been co-directed by longtime Kurosawa
protege' Ishiro Honda--who had come out of fifteen-year retirement to do
the movie, and Kurosawa's "Madadayo"--but still no mark against Kurosawa...
Apparently, Honda had always wanted to do a ghosts-of-the-War project of
his own, before being sidetracked during the 50's and 60's into working
with his longtime Toho star, Gojira. :)
Derek Janssen
eja...@verizon.net
moviePig
> On May 28, 7:37 am, Derek Janssen <ejan...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Japanese horror (we'll also overlook Godzilla, his being a friend and
> > protector of the earth) tends to be more rooted in Japan's own ancient
> > culturally-obsessive fears of fate, disgruntled ghosts, and having one's
> > death inescapably predicted by opening the wrong door--Hence the
> > urban-legend obsession with cursed photos, cursed cellphones, cursed
> > websites, cursed VHS tapes, cursed high-school lockers, and all
> > predicting doom by the calendar.
>
> > Except for NOTD/Runes, you don't see the "doom" idea too much in English
> > culture--...
>
> When you put it like that, cursed bits of paper sounds like perfect
> Japanese remake territory. In fact I think they've already done it.
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419280/
Fwiw, I just watched the above Netflix disc, PREMONITION (2004
Japan). It lacks the intriguing clever mechanics of NOTD, as well as
any but the most superficial resemblance to that movie. It's also
flabbily paced, and features at least one badly overwrought
performance. But damn... even through all that, the Japanese still
manage to give you gooseflesh...
Anim8rFSK
Ronnie Bateman <OurOwnRon...@earthlinc.net> wrote:
> argento32 <aaron...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Michael Myers(original Halloween)
>
> I learned something new yesterday....I never knew that the Michael Myers
> mask was actually a William Shatner/Star Trek mask. Or at least, that's
> what Shatner himself claims.
Oh, it definitely is. It's quite recognizable as one of the Kirk masks
(that doesn't look all that much like Kirk) they used to sell on the
back cover of fan magazines.
--
Star Trek 09:
No Shat, No Show.
trotsky
Yeah, and their movies aren't bad, either.
Greengirl795
where there were three stories in it. The blind lady who can see and
tries to touch the sun and the man who kills his wealthy relative but
can see everything that is about to happen to him in a painting such
as graves appearing in it. The painting story scared me silly.
My picks for the scariest would be Angela Lansbury in The Manchurian
Candidate and the virus in Infection (J-Horror).
Doc Martian
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> Irrespective whether any monsters named have been visibly seen on
> screen, or were always unseen, what are your picks so far of the 2
> scariest (whatever your definition of that is) horror cinema monsters
> (as opposed to any you regard as a favorite for being cool, but you
> never really considered it scary) and please say why, for anyone
> named.
alien and the first batch of rage-infected zombies.
bod
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The Green Slime ;-}
Dorothy J Heydt
For scariness: the long-leggity beastie in Poltergeist I.
For artistry: the Krell monster.
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
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Anim8rFSK
<9474f719-f9ee-4ca6...@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
T987654321 <qwrt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alien
> The Green Slime ;-}
Hah! I watched that last night!
"Is it just something in your head
Will you believe it when you're dead?????
Greeen Sllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmeeee"
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It's an explanation, not an excuse!
TBerk
1) That nasty thing from Carpenter's 'The Thing'. It was nasty
man, morphing, hungry, and did I say nasty?
2) and I cant think of a second. Maybe Linda Blair from 'you
know'.
TBerk
Derek Janssen
mimus
> 1) That nasty thing from Carpenter's 'The Thing'. It was nasty
> man, morphing, hungry, and did I say nasty?
>
> 2) and I cant think of a second.
This was exactly the response I was mulling over, but gave up while trying
to think of Numbah Two.
The Tingler, maybe?
--
"It's a Boo--!"
< _The Hunting of the Snark_
Dorothy J Heydt
TBerk <bayar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>1) That nasty thing from Carpenter's 'The Thing'. It was nasty
>man, morphing, hungry, and did I say nasty?
Well, after all ... it was written by Campbell.
William December Starr
"Doc Martian" <docma...@verizon.net> said:
That guy in "Triumph of the Will" has always given me the willies...
-- wds
Dorothy J Heydt
Yes, but I wonder if he counts ... not being fictional.
Which reminds me of the story of how Peter Lorre, who had made a
magnificent debut as the mass-murderer in "M", went on to England
to make "The Man Who Knew Too Much" and then to Hollywood, and
presently received a letter from the fellow you decline to name
above, asking him to return to Germany and be a star in the
films of the Third Reich. He wrote back, ~"No thank you.
There is not room enough in Germany for two such great mass
murderers as you and me."
J.J. O'Shea
(in article <K624E...@kithrup.com>):
Ooh, to have been able to record what happened when _that_ arrived. Good
thing that there was an ocean in the way...
--
email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.
John F. Eldredge
Charlie Chaplin's movie _The Great Dictator_ is a very funny send-up of
both Hitler and Mussolini. I suspect no one dared show it to either of
them.
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than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria
Dorothy J Heydt
Well, you know his aides called him (safely behind his back) _der
Teppichfresser_, the carpet-chewer. Apparently he did fall to
the floor and yell and kick and scream when he was annoyed, like
a kid in the throes of terrible two.
Tris Orendorff
When I was younger, "the little fireplace demons" in "Don't be Afraid of the Dark" and "the sword-wielding skeletons" from one of the "Sinbad" movies were it.
--
Tris Orendorff
[ Anyone naming their child should spend a few minutes checking rhyming slang and dodgy sounding names. Brad and Angelina failed to do this when naming their kid Shiloh Pitt. At some point, someone at school is going to spoonerise her name.
Craig Stark ]
Frank R.A.J. Maloney
> djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) burped up warm pablum in news:K6224...@kithrup.com:
>
> When I was younger, "the little fireplace demons" in "Don't be Afraid of the Dark" and "the sword-wielding skeletons" from one of the "Sinbad" movies were it.
_Jason and the Argonauts_ (1963) has a sword fight with seven skeletons.
There is a single skeleton swordsman in _The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad_
(1958).
Other than the man from Planet X, I don't honestly recall "monsters"
ever scaring me. Not that I was so darned fearless, quite the contrary,
but I never really believed the monster from the Black Lagoon wasn't
just a man in a rubber suit. Cynicism in one so young is sad, ain't it?
Has anyone chimed in yet to tell how the winged monkeys in _The Wizard
of Oz_ scared him or her? I loved them and never have understood why
they upset so many people so much.
--
Frank in Seattle
____
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
"Millennium hand and shrimp."
Wayne Throop
:: morphing, hungry, and did I say nasty?
::
:: 2) and I cant think of a second.
Not "The Blob"? Either original or remake. Creeps me right out, what
with the creeping and the leaping and all. And iirc lots of the times,
people were in confined spaces with it, and are shown rather indirectly
getting suffociated. In the remake, the guy getting sucked down the
drain (through a 2-inch-wide pipe) was particularly squicky for me.
I, myself, am not a claustrophile.
Of course, you might consider the Blob as the same sort of squick as the
Thing, but without quite as many super-powers, ie, no perfect disguise.
And I suppose after that, the various cases of internal parasites gone
wild. Like, oh, Alien. Which also has the claustrophobic element of
the face-hugger.
Wayne Throop thr...@sheol.org http://sheol.org/throopw
mimus
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:35:05 -0700, TBerk wrote:
>
>> 1) That nasty thing from Carpenter's 'The Thing'. It was nasty
>> man, morphing, hungry, and did I say nasty?
>>
>> 2) and I cant think of a second.
>
> This was exactly the response I was mulling over, but gave up while trying
> to think of Numbah Two.
>
> The Tingler, maybe?
Nah, on reflection I'm gonna go with the "Mothman" takeoff in _Jeepers
Creepers_.
He may not be all that nasty-- although I reely reely wish people would
learn to chop things' heads off and burn them when they get the chance--
but that's a finely-done recent horror-flick, which I've enjoyed any
number of times, and the sequel even isn't bad.
--
It's the Peterson kid dressed as an iguana!
< _Bloom County Babylon_
Juho Julkunen
says...
> Charlie Chaplin's movie _The Great Dictator_ is a very funny send-up of
> both Hitler and Mussolini. I suspect no one dared show it to either of
> them.
Hitler was quite a film lover, and did see the film, possibly more than
once. Reportedly he found it funny, too.
--
Juho Julkunen
David Matthews
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The Nazis never hid their heads in the sand about what the outside world was
saying about them and was quick to recognize talent. Nazi propaganda
minister Josef Goebbels saw Hitchcock's _ FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT _ and hailed
the film as a masterpiece, calling it "...a first-class production, a
criminological bang-up hit, which no doubt will make a certain impression
upon the broad masses of the people in enemy countries."
Dave in Toronto
TBerk
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:35:05 -0700, TBerk wrote:
> > 1) That nasty thing from Carpenter's 'The Thing'. It was nasty
> > man, morphing, hungry, and did I say nasty?
>
> > 2) and I cant think of a second.
>
> This was exactly the response I was mulling over, but gave up while trying
> to think of Numbah Two.
>
> The Tingler, maybe?
>
Good choice! (I think I have that on laserdisk.) 1st time I saw it I
was very impressed by the bathtub scenes.
TBerk
TBerk
> [ Anyone naming their child should spend a few minutes checking rhyming slang and dodgy sounding names. Brad and Angelina failed to do this when naming their kid Shiloh Pitt. At some point, someone at school is going to spoonerise her name.
> Craig Stark ]
LOL!
Well, turns out TBerk's last name is... Berk. Rhymes w/ 'jerk' to the
Cockneys. Unfortunately it was those bastards at Ellis Island to
blame for the whole thing.
Oh, and back on topic- does the TV movie with the 'little Tiki Idol
with a spear guy' count?
TBerk
David Matthews
"TBerk" <bayar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>> [ Anyone naming their child should spend a few minutes checking rhyming
>> slang and dodgy sounding names. Brad and Angelina failed to do this when
>> naming their kid Shiloh Pitt. At some point, someone at school is going
>> to spoonerise her name.
>> Craig Stark ]
>
> LOL!
>
> Well, turns out TBerk's last name is... Berk. Rhymes w/ 'jerk' to the
> Cockneys. Unfortunately it was those bastards at Ellis Island to
> blame for the whole thing.
>
Perhaps there are some who don't know what Berkshire Hunt rhymes with.
Dave in Toronto
Nobody in particular
> "Nev" <ne...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:f1619645-ae47-41ea...@l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
Alien and the 1978 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
After all, the Golden Age is always around 12.
Grant Hurlock
> scariest (whatever your definition of that is) horror cinema monsters
>
Two that creeped me out at the age I first saw them are--
the stowaway alien in 1958 Shawn Smith classic It! The Terror from Beyond
Space
&
the stop-motion beast in the zone of invisibility in 1970's Equinox.
Edward McArdle
One of the Quatermass movies had an astronaut come back from space - but
he wasn't himself...
--
Edward McArdle
bod
> news:f1619645-ae47-41ea...@l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> Irrespective whether any monsters named have been visibly seen on
>> screen, or were always unseen, what are your picks so far of the 2
>> scariest (whatever your definition of that is) horror cinema monsters
>> (as opposed to any you regard as a favorite for being cool, but you
>> never really considered it scary) and please say why, for anyone
>> named.
>
> alien and the first batch of rage-infected zombies.
i know for sure that some people in rec.arts.horror.movies. find this stuff
terrifing....
http://www.viewpoints.com/images/review/2007/190/14/1184009598-96326_full.jpg
ReVulse
>
>> [ Anyone naming their child should spend a few minutes checking rhyming slang and dodgy sounding names. Brad and Angelina failed to do this when naming their kid Shiloh Pitt. At some point, someone at school is going to spoonerise her name.
>> Craig Stark ]
>
> LOL!
>
> Well, turns out TBerk's last name is... Berk. Rhymes w/ 'jerk' to the
> Cockneys.
"Jerk" is an American insult so wouldn't mean much to Cockneys.
"Berk" on the other hand, is definitely an old British insult.
--
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Bluuuue Rajah
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> djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) burped up warm pablum in
> news:K6224...@kithrup.com:
>
> When I was younger, "the little fireplace demons" in "Don't be Afraid
> of the Dark" and "the sword-wielding skeletons" from one of the
> "Sinbad" movies were it.
The zombies in Night of the Living Dead. I still haven't seen that movie,
and don't plan to, because I'm already too scared.
The giant, indestructible, nuclear cockroaches in Damnation Alley.
Sean O'Hara
declared:
I wonder what would've happened if he'd seen To Be Or Not To Be.
--
Sean O'Hara <http://diogenes-sinope.blogspot.com>
Rose: To get that many people dressed up and being silly, they gotta
be students.
Doctor: That makes sense. Well done. They're not students.
-Doctor Who
Jeff Stehman
>
> Alien and the 1978 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
> After all, the Golden Age is always around 12.
I was younger when I had monster problems. The energy blob on Johnny
Quest freaked me right out. That thing wumping toward Hadji when his
jetpack wouldn't work... <shudder> It was one of my favorite shows, but
I could not watch that episode.
Even younger than that, I remember emptying my toy box, pulling it to
the middle of the rec room, hiding inside, and holding the lid up an
inch to watch a monster movie/show. There's was a werewolf in it, and I
think a vampire too, but I haven't a clue what the movie/show was.
--Jeff Stehman
DCar...@aol.com
That thing that came out of the closet in "The brain that wouldn't
die" was pretty fucked up.
Dennis C from Tennessee
william
> That thing that came out of the closet in "The brain that wouldn't
> die" was pretty fucked up.
>
And if you want a severed head double feature get "The Frozen Dead" to
go with it.
William
www.williamahearn.com
Andre
> "Doc Martian" <docmart...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> news:Gzxrk.511$lf2.492@trnddc07...
>
> > "Nev" <ne...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:f1619645-ae47-41ea...@l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> >> Irrespective whether any monsters named have been visibly seen on
> >> screen, or were always unseen, what are your picks so far of the 2
> >> scariest (whatever your definition of that is) horror cinema monsters
> >> (as opposed to any you regard as a favorite for being cool, but you
> >> never really considered it scary) and please say why, for anyone
> >> named.
>
> > alien and the first batch of rage-infected zombies.
>
> i know for sure that some people in rec.arts.horror.movies. find this stuff
> terrifing....
>
>
> --
> regards from BOD!
>
> "dont worry yoko, its only a friggin water pist...."
> JOHN LENNON 1980
>
> http://www.myspace.com/bodlandhttp://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bodland
The scariest monsters are invisible..."The Entity"
Andre
mimus
First time I saw it I was 'way too young to be watching it. Ick.
--
"Ah*ooh*ah*ooh*ah*ooh*ah*ooh*ah."
< _Shaun of the Dead_
David DeLaney
>Nobody in particular wrote:
>> Alien and the 1978 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
>> After all, the Golden Age is always around 12.
>
>I was younger when I had monster problems. The energy blob on Johnny
>Quest freaked me right out. That thing wumping toward Hadji when his
>jetpack wouldn't work... <shudder> It was one of my favorite shows, but
>I could not watch that episode.
I feel your pain, and share your freakedness of it. Unfortunately, in one
of those coincidence thingys, that episode was the ONLY episode of JQ I
ever managed to see - the three or four times I watched the show, it was
that episode each time. Brr/grr.
Dave
--
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It's not the clock that slows the hour The definition's plain for anyone to see
Love is all it takes to make a family" - R&P. VISUALIZE HAPPYNET VRbeable<BLINK>
http://www.vic.com/~dbd/ - net.legends FAQ & Magic / I WUV you in all CAPS! --K.
Derek Janssen
>>
>>I was younger when I had monster problems. The energy blob on Johnny
>>Quest freaked me right out. That thing wumping toward Hadji when his
>>jetpack wouldn't work... <shudder> It was one of my favorite shows, but
>>I could not watch that episode.
>
>
> I feel your pain, and share your freakedness of it. Unfortunately, in one
> of those coincidence thingys, that episode was the ONLY episode of JQ I
> ever managed to see - the three or four times I watched the show, it was
> that episode each time. Brr/grr.
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/Jonny_Quest_Season_1/60036798
Derek Janssen (and still better entertainment than the Venture Bros.
will ever deliver)
eja...@verizon.net
Anim8rFSK
Jeff Stehman <je...@stehmanRemove.com> wrote:
> Nobody in particular wrote:
> >
> > Alien and the 1978 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
> > After all, the Golden Age is always around 12.
>
> I was younger when I had monster problems. The energy blob on Johnny
> Quest freaked me right out. That thing wumping toward Hadji when his
> jetpack wouldn't work... <shudder> It was one of my favorite shows, but
> I could not watch that episode.
And what do you think of the monster from the ID in Forbidden Planet?
--
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It's an explanation, not an excuse!
lal_truckee
>> news:f1619645-ae47-41ea...@l17g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>> what are your picks so far of the 2
>> scariest (whatever your definition of that is) horror cinema monsters
I'm old enough to have hidden behind the seat in front of me when the
Karloff Frankenstein's monster roamed.
Same for the Karloff Mummy.
They're a tossup for me, and I don't think anything since compares.
TBerk
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:27:58 -0700, TBerk wrote:
> > On Aug 23, 6:14 am, mimus <tinmimu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> >> The Tingler, maybe?
>
> > Good choice! (I think I have that on laserdisk.) 1st time I saw it I
> > was very impressed by the bathtub scenes.
>
> First time I saw it I was 'way too young to be watching it. Ick.
Hah, hence my trouble with 'the Exorcist'. I went to the drive-in on
it's second turn through the theatres (before DVD, I mena VHS tapes),
films might get a second pass through after having a decent box office
the 1st time round.
Here I was in the back seat of a car with a young lady some years
older than me (it was a double date) and thoughts of access and
circumstance running though my head- and Linda Blair on screen
throwing up split pea soup with the revolving head and the whole
thing. oi.
TBerk
mimus
Then there were those damned "Killer Shrews".
Good old "Chiller", huh?
--
Let's get the hell out of here while we can still pass
our Rorschasch tests.
< _The Last Happy Hour_
TBerk
wrote:
It isn't too much interesting to me, apparently I have been
misinformed.
Somebody wondered about the scary aspect of 'the Blob' but I didn't
get a scare from that. Instead I got the whiles from 'Night of the
Living Dead' or Leatherface from 'Texas Chainsaw Massacre' (Haven't
seen he remake btw.)
TBerk
TBerk
> And what do you think of the monster from the ID in Forbidden Planet?
>
> --
One of my favorite of all times. Past that 1st initial viewing though
the scare went out of this movie for me. I cherish it still for the
beauty of the gal and the sets (most of them), the SciFi aspect in
general and the progenitor to Trek aspect specifically but germain to
the Monster; the melancholy of the fate of the Krell.
TBerk
chuck c.
>
> The scariest monsters are invisible..."The Entity"
>
> Andre
Yes--like the monster in FORBIDDEN PLANET, which I'm surprised no one
mentioned. Or maybe it was because I was 9 when it first came out.
Best,
CC
chuck c.
Hey TBerk, I still get chills when I see the steps on the spaceship
gangway being bent by the approach of the monster.
Cheers,
CC
Anim8rFSK
<3d52831d-5a8f-4522...@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
TBerk <bayar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's just always struck me as the same creature.