Living letters going abstract
Mistasmiros
I am doing right now my first steps in sellling paintings I am doing.
The very original aspect about my art is, that it is done what is
considered by most people and artists as an unappropriate medium:
Stabilo-Pens and Markers as Graffiti writers use them to do sketches.
This one listed below is my first try to auction a painting I did.
Normally I just give them away as a present.
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=37533&item=6513773362&rd=1
The text is in german so I discribe it here again in english and more
indepth:
My name is Mistasmiros on eBay and the painting done on DinA3 (slightly
bigger then two american standard letters) paper shows my mainly used
writer or artist name "Wolf" in flames.
"Mistasmiros" stands vor "Mi estas mi iros", which is Esperanto vor "I
am I will go" and referes also to my christian name Ibo, which is the
latin word for "I will go" (first person futur of "go").
Wolf is the animal I associate myself with mostly, because my way of
live I mainly go on my own. Flames or flame style one will finde very
often in my work, because it reflects the inner fight e.g. the Khoran
means when it reads about Djihad, which is first of all the daily inner
fight with oneselfe to be a good person.
I am kathlik so, but consider the Kohran as one of the holy books.
Beside, check out www.sacred-texts.com. Bevore Jesus was handed over to
die for our sinns, he spoke with himselfe in this little wood close to
Jerusalem. What happend there between him and god is what the Kohran
means with Djihad. This was a major on in history, I guess ;-)
In many respects we all do have such fights, beeing a good human and
serving god on a daily basis in many forms. This is what I try to
reflect with my work.
Comments appriciated.
thanks,
Ibo
P.S: Worldwide delivery guranteed. ;-)
keith o'connor
he died for YOUR SINS sins not mine.
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take care: Keith
"Mistasmiros" <ibo_n...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mistasmiros
Jesus claims to have died for all humans sins. This includes yours
aswell.
But I guess an allmighty god will understand youre wish to be
(probably) temporarely excluded ;-).
But, what's with your sins then so, you do not want to throw the first
stone, will you?
Regards,
Ibo Neumann
keith o'connor
group to which you are a member e.g.: in our culture we do this. since i am
not a member of your group i am not one our your 'our'. to automatically
include me within your group is presumptuous on your part.
since your jesus never edited the bible as to accurate recording and correct
interpretation of his words nor did he edit translations into different
languages as to accuracy of meaning and intent you can only assume that what
has been recorded is correct and that the recorder recorded correctly etc.
in other words you don't know you just believe that you know - that is not a
sign of mental health.
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take care: Keith
"Mistasmiros" <ibo_n...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Mistasmiros
keith o'connor wrote:
> You are extending the use of the english language - 'our' refers to
the
> group to which you are a member e.g.: in our culture we do this.
since i am
> not a member of your group i am not one our your 'our'. to
automatically
> include me within your group is presumptuous on your part.
>
> since your jesus never edited the bible as to accurate recording and
correct
> interpretation of his words nor did he edit translations into
different
> languages as to accuracy of meaning and intent you can only assume
that what
> has been recorded is correct and that the recorder recorded correctly
etc.
> in other words you don't know you just believe that you know - that
is not a
> sign of mental health.
>
Our, in this case refeered to all humans. I asume you are human. Also
the devil that is walking on this earth and will be killed by Gabriel
is of human nature.
With all appropriate respect, you know this, how "our" was ment in this
respect, and shouldn't pretend to be more stupid then you are.
We can way more then only asume or suggest what Jesus, and way more
importend, god wanted. Logic as a philosephy can tell us. 1+1 equals
two. The way Jesus went in his live ends up as a logic result in his
death for our (all human) sinns.
There was no need for Jesus to edit texts on him, also didn't Mose. The
bible, the old and new testament, any way have been written over a view
decades and centuries. Jesus gave Petrus the very importend task to
spread the holy message, this message is equal in many respects to the
what Jews and also Moslim beleve in. It is the same god we pray to.
That equals up in the conclusion that God wanted Jesus to sacrefy his
live for the sins of all humans.
"in other words you don't know you just believe that you know - that is
not a
> sign of mental health."
This is a false statement and a wrong conclusion. Aristotele said that
he knows nothing, but by knowing that he knows nothing, he knows more
then those that do not know that they know nothing.
With the statment above you declare Aristotele to be mentaly ill. Maybe
you jsut prefere Plato, whom I consider to be menately ill in many
respects.
It is very difficult to differenciate between knowledge and beleve ,
e.g. for a very long time science knew that the helocentric view of the
universe is correct or that the earth is a disc. And based on their
assumpted knowledge this was the correct conclusion. But still wrong,
so.
Kant kicks this, the state of knowledge and beleve into areas beyond
recognicion that will threaten ones mental health.
Beside: Mental health is very relative, not only space and time... ;-)
Thanks for your reply.
kind regards,
ibo neumann
Electric Nachos
<1109198219....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>...
>Our, in this case refeered to all humans. I asume you are human.
Our, *usually* implies European and/or Amerikkkan Christian males. That's
your 1st mistake - *abuse* of the word, "our" that is...
>Also
>the devil that is walking on this earth and will be killed by Gabriel
>is of human nature.
That's the devil who went down to Georgia, right? Gabriel's watch must be
off cause The Charlie Daniel's Band kicked his ass a long time ago!!!!
>With all appropriate respect, you know this, how "our" was ment in this
>respect, and shouldn't pretend to be more stupid then you are.
That's really funny because the word "our" is defined as "Of or belonging to
us." If you want to continue to abuse the word "our," question why Jesus
does *not* belong to Muslims and Jews and the thousands of other religious
followers. If your brain works correctly, you will conclude that you
absolutely *must* speak of specific groups of people when you speak of Heppy
Jesus.
>We can way more then only asume or suggest what Jesus, and way more
>importend, god wanted. Logic as a philosephy can tell us. 1+1 equals
>two. The way Jesus went in his live ends up as a logic result in his
>death for our (all human) sinns.
There is no logical reason for a *god* to send his *son* to a planet to be
beaten to death by its inhabitants. (Unless the god hated the son, and
wanted to see his ass die - but hey, that's the god you worship - right?)
There is even yet no logical reason to assume this act would *absorb* sins
when the inhabitants of the planet STILL SIN!
>There was no need for Jesus to edit texts on him,
Care to explain how he could have? All the texts were written **after** his
death!!
>also didn't Mose. The
>bible, the old and new testament, any way have been written over a view
>decades and centuries. Jesus gave Petrus the very importend task to
>spread the holy message, this message is equal in many respects to the
>what Jews and also Moslim beleve in. It is the same god we pray to.
>That equals up in the conclusion that God wanted Jesus to sacrefy his
>live for the sins of all humans.
Let's see. Jews and Muslims have beliefs similar to Christianity (which
didn't exist prior to Jesus, mind you), so.... because they all believe
**almost** the same thing, God sent his son to earth for a good whipping.
Yup - Makes sense to me!!
>Aristotele said that
>he knows nothing, but by knowing that he knows nothing, he knows more
>then those that do not know that they know nothing.
>With the statment above you declare Aristotele to be mentaly ill. Maybe
>you jsut prefere Plato, whom I consider to be menately ill in many
>respects.
>
>It is very difficult to differenciate between knowledge and beleve ,
No it isn't. A dictionary can help you understand this.
>e.g. for a very long time science knew that the helocentric view of the
>universe is correct or that the earth is a disc. And based on their
>assumpted knowledge this was the correct conclusion. But still wrong,
>so.
What?!?!
>Kant kicks this, the state of knowledge and beleve into areas beyond
>recognicion that will threaten ones mental health
>
>Beside: Mental health is very relative, not only space and time... ;-)
<sigh>
Mistasmiros
That's
your 1st mistake - *abuse* of the word, "our" that is...
-So, whats with kathlik asions? Our in this case means all humans.
That's it. No way to negotiate it. My dictionare sais very clearly: ...
2.belonging to or associated with all people or people in general: e.g.
our nearest Planet is Venus.
That's the devil who went down to Georgia, right? Gabriel's watch must
be
off cause The Charlie Daniel's Band kicked his ass a long time ago!!!!
-Exactly this one. But the band was actually made up by spys from the
Venus and the Bluth Brothers bluw up their UFO hidden in the Arktis
somewhen in the nintees....
does *not* belong to Muslims and Jews and the thousands of other
religious
followers. If your brain works correctly, you will conclude that you
absolutely *must* speak of specific groups of people when you speak of
Heppy
Jesus.
-Jesus belongs to Jews, because he was a Rabbi and Jew. Jesus belongs
to Moslims as one of many Prophets. One of the main reasons why a
kathlik is a kathlik is because this jewish Rabbi is more then a
Prophet to us kathliks, but the Son of God and king of a kingdom not
from this planet.
is no logical reason for a *god* to send his *son* to a planet to be
beaten to death by its inhabitants. (Unless the god hated the son, and
wanted to see his ass die - but hey, that's the god you worship -
right?)
There is even yet no logical reason to assume this act would *absorb*
sins
when the inhabitants of the planet STILL SIN!
-There is. To teach us dignity and that god loves us so much that he
sacrefies his son. That we will have to suffer for our beleves in this
live. To have someone to now about that sufferd more when we suffer and
still was full of love and preached this love, that came back to live
and will give strength to all those suffering and beleving in him.
Let's see. Jews and Muslims have beliefs similar to Christianity (which
didn't exist prior to Jesus, mind you), so.... because they all believe
**almost** the same thing, God sent his son to earth for a good
whipping.
Yup - Makes sense to me!!
-You should think a little more about this. The core message of
Christinety you'll also find in Buddism or Hinduism. The balance so,
might be of different character.
No it isn't. A dictionary can help you understand this.
-Get one, but look up the term "philosephy".
>e.g. for a very long time science knew that the helocentric view of
the
>universe is correct or that the earth is a disc. And based on their
>assumpted knowledge this was the correct conclusion. But still wrong,
>so.
What?!?!
This you should start thiinking about. But first read. Read.
sacred-texts.com is a very, very good start.
get hold of books from "Kant" if you prefeer non relegious texts on
existence. But he'll might make you freak out.
Plato is about fashism, ith his ideal state. Something you should read
if you feel close to the ATTAC movement. Why?
Sun Tsu wrote in his book "the art of war" that one mist know his enemy
to beat him.
Thanks,
ibo