Schools with good art programs in london or new york
Helen A.
to mid january 2003 and I was wondering if anyone could recommend some
schools offering interesting or good art programs (mainly primary or
secondary, not university) that I could visit. I would like to broaden
my skills in art education.
Alison A Raimes
Hi Helen
For London, you will need to find a university that teaches Post Graduate
Certificate in Education (PGCE) as that is the qualification needed to teach
art in schools. Even in University teaching they are demanding it more and more
these days, even if you have been teaching for years and have an MA in Fine
Art. Many of my friends who are University lecturers have received training
grants to do the certificate before they can renew their contracts.
Your best bet would be to contact the University of Greenwich
http://www.gre.ac.uk/schools/education/programmes.htm
I think they would be most helpful of all the London schools. I can't remember
the surname, but I suggest asking for Barbara in the PGCE in Art department -
you can tell her that I sent her (she will remember me from Eltham College
where I was working in 1997/8). Email me alison at raimes.com if you would
like me to make contact on your behalf. You might be able to visit Eltham
College which is one of the training schools and is purported to have one of
the best art departments in England. http://www.eltham-college.org.uk/ If you
want to contact Peter Richards, the head of art, and ask to visit the school
you can be sure of a warm welcome. Tell him that I directed you to him. If you
don't get a reply from an email to him then let me know and I wil give him a
call and set something up for you. I hope that is helpful.
Kind regards
Alison A Raimes
http://raimes.com
Mani Deli
wrote:
>>I'm an art teacher visiting galleries in london and new york in early
>>to mid january 2003 and I was wondering if anyone could recommend some
>>schools offering interesting or good art programs (mainly primary or
>>secondary, not university) that I could visit. I would like to broaden
>>my skills in art education.
>
>Hi Helen
>
>For London, ---
Before considering her recomendations for good art programs I'd first
take a look at Alison's artwork.
>Alison A Raimes
>http://raimes.com
...no skill no art!
Tired of Modern Art? Check out my web page
Tina Mammoser
place to cover the London area. Goldsmith's (same area of London, in
Lewisham I think) also does teaching certificates and has excellent arts
courses - so I'd imagine they do an arts teaching certificate.
As kids are going back to school very soon you may be able to find some
rankings information online and see what schools rank highly in arts. Try
google UK. You may want to ask for information at the Royal Academy (on
Picadilly) and the Royal College of Art - they may have lists of schools
for graduates interested in art education? Just a thought.
Tina.
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Alison A Raimes
>place to cover the London area. Goldsmith's (same area of London, in
>Lewisham I think) also does teaching certificates and has excellent arts
>courses - so I'd imagine they do an arts teaching certificate
They do, but Goldsmiths has a very good reputation for undergraduate and post
graduate art courses .... but not for primary and secondary arts teaching
courses. And I doubt they will be as receptive to overseas observers in their
teaching classes as Greenwich. But of course worth trying anyway.
>As kids are going back to school very soon you may be able to find some
>rankings information online and see what schools rank highly in arts. Try
>google UK. You may want to ask for information at the Royal Academy (on
>Picadilly) and the Royal College of Art - they may have lists of schools
>for graduates interested in art education? Just a thought.
Good thought, Tina, but RA and RCA aren't interested in producing primary or
secondary school teachers - they aspire to producing great artists at the top
of the scale, and university lecturers at the bottom end of the scale.
However, the London Institute of Education
http://ioewebserver.ioe.ac.uk/ioe/index.html are the recipients of the latest
government funding to train and retrain artists in primary and secondary
education at the moment - whether or not Helen will get a response is another
thing - but worth a try. Greenwich, who have one of the long term best
reputations for teacher training, are likely to be more responsive ... they may
even be validated by Goldsmiths, I can't remember.
At the other end ot the scale, Helen might enjoy observing in some of the
schools in Bow where we (the Bow Arts Trust artists
http:// www bowarts.com ) do workshops. St Paul's Community School in Bow is an
arts school - one of the only secondary schools in England that are primarily
for secondary students with scholarships (from deprived areas) with artistic
talent. They fund the workshops for Bow Arts Trust artists. English is a second
language in the Bow schools - Punjab being the primary - and they are producing
some of the leading art students today -- they should rate high in the
listings.... but I bet they don't - because rating are never done on one
subject. We also do workshops in a number of Bow shoools such as Stepney Green
and Bow Boys School (bring your armour) that are low in the academic ratings
but which are starting to do well in the arts rankings. Playtime is great - I
caught two boys playing *catch* with a hammer stolen from the arts department
at my last workshop. They lock these kids in behind barbed wire to give the
community some breathing space so what can you expect! But, despite the
hazards, there is an entire generation of new British Black and Asian artists
entering the art schools because of Bow Arts work in the community so the next
generation of British artists should be very interesting.
Helen is welcome to come and observe our education programme, sit in on
workshops, talk to artists teaching in these schools, visist their studios and
she should contact the education officer at in...@bowarts.com
Helen A.
> take a look at Alison's artwork.
>
> >Alison A Raimes
> >http://raimes.com
>
> ...no skill no art!
>
> Tired of Modern Art? Check out my web page
>
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/manideli/
What a shame you can only feel good about yourself by putting down
another. Art should be about acceptance and appreciation, not about
one style of art being better than another. Contemporary postmodernism
favours a pluralistic view, where artists of a range of groups (some
marginalised) are accepted. It also takes courage to put your art out
there for others to view and potentially criticise. Hitler in the
1930's proclaimed all "modern" art to be degenerate, hence the
exhibition of the degenerates. This is why so many German artists fled
the country - they couldn't lower themselves to producing "acceptable"
albeit realistic art depecting blonde families and 19th century style
art. So, I am not tired of Modern art, nor traditional or academic at
all. How boring the world would be without both.
Helen A.
contact with some of the above organisations. I can be fairly broad in
looking at art institutions as I work in both a school and a gallery
(2 jobs actually) in Australia, so I imagine the system in London is
different.
Anyone with a recommendation for New York City?
Helen.
WoN ereH
>> take a look at Alison's artwork.
>>
>> >Alison A Raimes
>> >http://raimes.com
>>
>> ...no skill no art!
>>
>> Tired of Modern Art? Check
I don't like generic abstract art but I found Alison's take quite beautiful and
expressive. It certainly has a lot more vitality to it than Mani's hackneyed
inflated bosoms.
Debra
Helen A.
> expressive. It certainly has a lot more vitality to it than Mani's hackneyed
> inflated bosoms.
>
>
> Debra
Good on you for the gusty reply Debra. Unfortunately it may have come
a tad too late for Alison as we may not expect to see her again on
rec.arts fine. What are the stuckists going to do for a reaction
now???
Peter H.M. Brooks
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>
> Unfortunately it may have come
> a tad too late for Alison as we may not expect to see her again on
> rec.arts fine.
>
raf, but can't keep away. People have been delighted to hear her promise to
bugger off many times before - I gave up after a while and put her in the
old kill file with other fuckwits I shan't be removing her soon.
Mind you, if you like rottweilers, nasty creatures of little brain, then
she's just the tickety.
--
"Sex is the biggest nothing of all time." --Andy Warhol
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