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Of Copyist and Picasso (reply to Ethan Ham)

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John Ng

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Feb 10, 2003, 11:38:53 PM2/10/03
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>There's a question, in one form or another, that I've asked John &
Mani
>three times. I haven't seen there thoughts on it (though it's
certainly
>possible I missed it in this maze of threads & postings):
>
>**************
>"If I was able to paint an exact replica of a Picasso painting,
wouldn't
>show skill/competence? If Picasso's paintings are photo-realistic
paintings
>of the images he was picturing in his head, wouldn't that show
>skill/competence?"
>**************

I only saw this post just.

If a copyist is able to copy a Picasso such that it looks very
similar, then there is skill and competent on the copyist's part but
not on the originator. If Picasso's paintings are of photo-realistic
images in his head, then he needs to see a psychiatrist.


John Ng

Peter H.M. Brooks

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Feb 10, 2003, 11:51:07 PM2/10/03
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"John Ng" <pigsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> If a copyist is able to copy a Picasso such that it looks very
> similar, then there is skill and competent on the copyist's part but
> not on the originator. If Picasso's paintings are of photo-realistic
> images in his head, then he needs to see a psychiatrist.
>
If there were life after death Picasso could go and see Jung himself.


--
I wish that baby Jesus had never been born - Samaritans


Roy L. Ballou

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Feb 11, 2003, 8:39:28 AM2/11/03
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In article <d1bb492a.03021...@posting.google.com>,
pigsm...@hotmail.com says...

Why has this newsgroup deteriorated even further
than it has in the past with its focused
discussion on the merits or demerits of Picasso works???

What about Alice Neal, Lucien Freud, Chuck Close,
Willem Dekooning, Velasquez and a whole host of other artists
who distorted and re-shaped the human visage for their
own particular reasons???

Isn't it time to move on and discuss some other
artists besides Picasso, who has already been
written about and debated about ad nauseam.

John Ng

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Feb 12, 2003, 1:20:53 AM2/12/03
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bal...@noemailever.com (Roy L. Ballou) wrote in message

> What about Alice Neal, Lucien Freud, Chuck Close,
> Willem Dekooning, Velasquez and a whole host of other artists
> who distorted and re-shaped the human visage for their
> own particular reasons???
>
> Isn't it time to move on and discuss some other
> artists besides Picasso, who has already been
> written about and debated about ad nauseam.

Picasso is picked simply because he is the most overrated artist,
especially judging by the number of books written about him.
DeKooning, Pollock and Matisse etc follow close behind. My scathing
remarks extend to Ingres and even Bouguereau himself, abet with the
understanding that, unlike Picasso, some of their incompetence were
not lied about and twisted into wholesomeness and into an advantage
(except maybe by myopic critics who want to see it that way).

See thread "False statements - Ingres" for a post about Ingres.


John Ng

Paul Mesken

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Feb 13, 2003, 5:32:49 PM2/13/03
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On 11 Feb 2003 06:39:28 -0700, bal...@noemailever.com (Roy L. Ballou)
wrote:

>In article <d1bb492a.03021...@posting.google.com>,
>pigsm...@hotmail.com says...
>
>Why has this newsgroup deteriorated even further
>than it has in the past with its focused
>discussion on the merits or demerits of Picasso works???
>
>What about Alice Neal, Lucien Freud, Chuck Close,
>Willem Dekooning, Velasquez and a whole host of other artists
>who distorted and re-shaped the human visage for their
>own particular reasons???
>

Freud is great, his rendering of human flesh is quite something.

Chris

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Feb 13, 2003, 5:41:24 PM2/13/03
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"Paul Mesken" <usu...@euronet.nl> wrote in message
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>
> Freud is great, his rendering of human flesh is quite something.
>

Yeah, rendering is quite the appropriate owrd....
Chris

Roy L. Ballou

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Feb 13, 2003, 6:35:34 PM2/13/03
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In article <oaV2a.397$bK4....@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>, n...@this.address
says...


>> Freud is great, his rendering of human flesh is quite something.
>>
>
>Yeah, rendering is quite the appropriate owrd....

Made you "owrd" did it! Rendered flesh
could gag a maggot, so not to worry...

Roob

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Feb 14, 2003, 12:50:31 PM2/14/03
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bal...@noemailever.com (Roy L. Ballou) wrote in message news:<3e4c...@news.zianet.com>...

why do you always try to make fun of people that make typos? we
obviously understand the sentence in spite of the typo because we are
PATTERN RECOGNITION FILTERS. when people just type, they make a lot of
errors that don't need to be corrected because the sentence is still
easily understood. your posts are really not funny. that shit is
getting old. can you please stop?

Carmine Rhedd

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Feb 14, 2003, 7:04:18 PM2/14/03
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In article <b1783836.03021...@posting.google.com>,
library_...@hotmail.com says...

>can you please stop?

NO!
What fun would then ensue?
Thank you!

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