What sells the best?
Richard
What kind of paintings & drawings sell the best?
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Tina Mammoser
Richard wrote:
In what market? In what outlets? In what price range? Dead artists or
living artists?
Modern masters have been doing well at auction houses this year
(Sotheby's, Christie's etc.)
Contemporary abstracts do well in appropriate galleries in the UK.
Traditional figurative paintings do well in appropriate galleries in the
UK.
Cats and dogs and nudes do well on eBay. (and in appropriate galleries,
of course)
The art market is HUGE and international. You need to narrow it down a
bit... compare like with like. Are you interested in a certain subject
matter or style? Is this for your own work or just general interest?
Unfortunately drawing media are usually unrated compared with painting,
even though paintings in pastel for instance take just as much skill and
patience. In some places ceramics is relegated to the craft market,
though many ceramicists I know consider themselves fine artists and
sculptors (not all though, some are content to be in the craft
category). But trends, even those that can be pinpointed, come and go in
swings and roundabouts. So figurative nudes may be 'the thing' one year
and minimalist abstracts take over the next. Of course conceptual art is
very in at the moment. Art is much like the stock market in that
respect.
Tina.
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> What kind of paintings & drawings sell the best?
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Ted E. Behr
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>What kind of paintings & drawings sell the best?
First of all, are you asking about 'originals'
or 'reproductions?' Thos Kincade and similar
are probably the 'best sellers.' Just as there
are popular 'best sellers' in novelists, so there
are in the arts. That doesn't mean they are worth
two cents to people who know and appreciate
profundity in the arts. It means they have 'mass
appeal.' So if you want to find a niche where you
can be guaranteed sales, learn what appeals to
the common person. From what you've disclosed here
of your 'common tastes' I suspect you are on the
right track. All you need then is a marketing degree!
keith o'connor (tinmangallery.com
http://www.tinmangallery.com/ezine/EzineApr2002.html
keith
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Bonnie
Many years from now you might have a "dark night of the soul" - you
might wonder if your paintings have any value at all - indeed, you
might question if your life has any purpose: On that day remember this
question you have asked, and weep.
ßonnie
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keith o'connor (tinmangallery.com
buyer.
keith
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Richard
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:56:01 GMT, "Bonnie" <qx...@excite.com> wrote:
>Many years from now you might have a "dark night of the soul" - you
>might wonder if your paintings have any value at all - indeed, you
>might question if your life has any purpose: On that day remember this
>question you have asked, and weep.
>ßonnie
So? What's your point? I shouldn't be an artist? I should be an
accountant? I shouldn't ask any questions?
I already know what the purpose of life is: having a girl who you love
and who loves you and raising a family. That's more important to me
than anything. Art to me is not about the value of it but the
enjoyment and satisfaction of making art and improving my skills. But
it's still good to know what sells, cuz you might want to make some
money too.
Bonnie
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> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:56:01 GMT, "Bonnie" <qx...@excite.com> wrote:
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> >Many years from now you might have a "dark night of the soul" - you
> >might wonder if your paintings have any value at all - indeed, you
> >might question if your life has any purpose: On that day remember
this
> >question you have asked, and weep.
> >ßonnie
>
> So? What's your point? I shouldn't be an artist? I should be an
> accountant? I shouldn't ask any questions?
> I already know what the purpose of life is: having a girl who you
love
> and who loves you and raising a family. That's more important to me
> than anything. Art to me is not about the value of it but the
> enjoyment and satisfaction of making art and improving my skills.
But
> it's still good to know what sells, cuz you might want to make some
> money too.
>
You seem like a fine young lad. I'm sure you will have a very happy
and rewarding life. It's great to have a hobby too, it makes life more
enjoyable. Sorry lad, but I was thinking of those who paint because,
well, they have no choice - there is something deep within that must
be expressed in painting. Whether these paintings are sold or not make
not a bit of difference to this urge. Consider Picasso, if you will,
who was a rich and famous artist in his own lifetime: do you think he
would have stopped painting if this were not so? Or maybe go to the
world of sports: Gretzy though very rich, would have played hockey
even if he had to eat sardines and live in a tar paper shack. Gretzy
and Picasso. Not a comparison you'll see everyday...
ßonnie
Ted E. Behr
>OK, I'll do paintings of Van Gogh and Picasso and make a fortune! (smile)
Do you ever read Smithsonian magazine?
There is a very interesting article on
the Louvre's long-standing/still-existing
policy of letting artists copy from the
real things in the Louvre's galleries.
The article mentions that many of the
artists sell the copies they produce.
SMITHSONIAN, October 2002 issue
Does anyone in the USA know of a museum
that allows artists to set up their
easels and paint on-site? I know many
allow drawing to be done. I'm asking
about painting?
Tina Mammoser
"Ted E. Behr" wrote:
>
> Does anyone in the USA know of a museum
> that allows artists to set up their
> easels and paint on-site? I know many
> allow drawing to be done. I'm asking
> about painting?
Yes, the Art Institute of Chicago lets enrolled students (in the School of the
Art Institute) paint in the galleries - I believe a stipulation is that the work
must be of a different size than the original. I always loved seeing people
paint when I visited (I'm from Chicago originally) and have tried to become a
student on several visits just so I could do this. :) My timing was always wrong
though., between semesters or on summer breaks. :(
Tina.
P.S. Tip of the day: don't get Golden Tar Gel medium in your hair. *sigh*
Ted E. Behr
says...
>I was thinking of those who paint because,
>well, they have no choice - there is something deep within that must
>be expressed in painting.
It's called obsessive/compulsive behaviour.
It's NOT considered a desirable trait.
>Or maybe go to the
>world of sports: Gretzy though very rich, would have played hockey
>even if he had to eat sardines and live in a tar paper shack.
I presume you are speaking of Wayne Gretzky?
How do you know this about him? Are you a
personal friend? If what you say of him is
true, then it's just another manifestation of
obsessive/compulsive, or at least the obsessive
part.
Nerd Gerl
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> >well, they have no choice - there is something deep within that must
> >be expressed in painting.
>
> It's NOT considered a desirable trait.
>
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/ocd.cfm
No matter how hard I searched, I couldn't find "drawing", "painting",
"sculpting", "printing," or any "art making" description in this
"diagnosis."
Have you any leads as to where some of us can get some help for our
"disorder"?
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Nerd Gerl
> I already know what the purpose of life is: having a girl who you love
> and who loves you and raising a family. That's more important to me
> than anything.
Then get ready to put your art career on hold for 20-30 years.
Kids = Time and Money
Wife = Money and Time
Art Career? <FLUSH>
You want both? Find a woman who likes to cater to a man, raise kids,
cook, clean, teach, play nurse, play secretary, repair the house, run
a budget, do without sex, eat beans, give up her social life, and is
willing to be ignored.
Oh, and don't forget to have her sign a contract stating that at no
time prior, during, or after the marriage, will she kill you.
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John Ng
> Sorry lad, but I was thinking of those who paint because,
> well, they have no choice - there is something deep within that must
> be expressed in painting.
You can do free expression on your neighbour's wall but a good
painting has no time for people like you. I don't want to buy your
dull pointless thoughts. I want to buy a skillfully produced
beautiful artwork.
John
ART RENEWAL ADVOCATE
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Richard
On 22 Oct 2002 19:03:16 -0700, pigsm...@hotmail.com (John Ng) wrote:
>"Bonnie" <qx...@excite.com> wrote in message news:<TJet9.32853
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>> Sorry lad, but I was thinking of those who paint because,
>> well, they have no choice - there is something deep within that must
>> be expressed in painting.
>
>You can do free expression on your neighbour's wall but a good
>painting has no time for people like you. I don't want to buy your
>dull pointless thoughts. I want to buy a skillfully produced
>beautiful artwork.
I think I have much better ideas and creative genius that most people
who think they are deep, but right now I am focusing on building
technical skills so that my paintings don't look like bags of smashed
assholes, hehe. Focusing on "something deep inside" right now would be
silly for me. It'd be putting the cart before the horse. Also, my
ability to express ideas and feelings will be vastly increased once I
have mastered the skills I want to master. I do have a great deal of
passion, by the way. I have stronger emotions than most people, which
is why you see me letting off steam here sometimes.
Richard
On 22 Oct 2002 17:05:46 -0700, nerd...@rcip.com (Nerd Gerl) wrote:
>
>Then get ready to put your art career on hold for 20-30 years.
>
>Kids = Time and Money
>Wife = Money and Time
>
>Art Career? <FLUSH>
>
>You want both? Find a woman who likes to cater to a man, raise kids,
>cook, clean, teach, play nurse, play secretary, repair the house, run
>a budget, do without sex, eat beans, give up her social life, and is
>willing to be ignored.
>
>Oh, and don't forget to have her sign a contract stating that at no
>time prior, during, or after the marriage, will she kill you.
What, are you saying I won't be able to get a job as an illustrator or
a graphic artist even? I recently saw a job ad for an illustrator in
my area, and it paid $75,000 to $100,000. They required 5+ years of
experience. I saw a bunch of graphic artist jobs, and I saw one
temporary job for a sketch artist for computer games. They wanted
someone who could draw realistically. As far as I can gather, if you
have extremely high artistic skills, you can get a job making art. I
think the ones that can't make a living at it are the ones who are
less than extremely proficient. That's why I'm pushing myself really
hard to develop serious skills and I just spent about $500 on a ton of
art instruction books. I think I have enough talent. I just have to
push my abilities & knowledge as high as I can. I've also personally
met working artists. I met three who worked on computer games. I don't
plan to be one of those struggling guys trying to get their paintings
seen in galleries. I plan to do some kind of commercial art and in my
spare time I can make my own paintings that express my own visions. I
used to do customer service work and it was pure hell. I want to make
a living doing something I enjoy. Nobody is going to discourage me
from trying to make it in art.
By the way, beans are very healthy.
Ted E. Behr
says...
Hey Nerdy, that's the best post from you
I've seen to date. Anyone in this newsgroup
who can bring a belly laugh from me is on
their way to fame and fortune! If you can't
make it painting angels then I suggest you
might have a shot at it writing satire.
Ted E. Behr
>> Does anyone in the USA know of a museum
>> that allows artists to set up their
>> easels and paint on-site? I know many
>> allow drawing to be done. I'm asking
>> about painting?
>
>Yes, the Art Institute of Chicago
I went back and thumbed through the article
again and it does mention that the National
Gallery in Washington, DC has such a
copying program. I would then guess there are
other museums that do the same. I've
been in many in the USA and never once saw
anyone with an easel setup. I have seen
plenty of students using drawing materials.
In fact I did some drawing in the museum
of the University I attended, but even there it was not
permitted to set up a painting easel. And
the Smithsonian article mentions the problems
the Louvre has had with younger students who
become too rambunctious.
Nerd Gerl
my father painfully shove his art dreams in his back pocket just so he
could suffer through an expensive mortgage, 2 jobs, expensive schools,
2 spoiled brats, ungodly demanding bosses, and a bitter divorce to top
it off. Nearing his retirement, he painted a self-portrait.
I wanted to cry upon seeing it. It didn't look like him, it looked
like who he was denied to be for all those years. :'-(
I care not to expand.
Ted E. Behr <Te...@noemailever.com> wrote in article
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> says...
>
> Hey Nerdy, that's the best post from you
> I've seen to date. Anyone in this newsgroup
> who can bring a belly laugh from me is on
> their way to fame and fortune! If you can't
> make it painting angels then I suggest you
> might have a shot at it writing satire.
>
Nerd Gerl
> What, are you saying I won't be able to get a job as an illustrator or
> a graphic artist even? I recently saw a job ad for an illustrator in
> my area, and it paid $75,000 to $100,000. They required 5+ years of
> experience. I saw a bunch of graphic artist jobs, and I saw one
> temporary job for a sketch artist for computer games. They wanted
> someone who could draw realistically. As far as I can gather, if you
> have extremely high artistic skills, you can get a job making art. I
> think the ones that can't make a living at it are the ones who are
> less than extremely proficient.
Well, that's a theory. I'm sure you and all the other 200 highly
realistic artists will get the job. I am afraid that you think you're
the best artist there is. You're just too excited and you need a
reality check. EVERYONE does!!
Look here, man. We ALL are the best artist there is at one point and
time. At other times, we totally suck and wonder why in hell we
started drawing in the first place. Upon that realization, we crumble,
or we stay in the fight and IMPROVE. Do you need to improve? Something
tells me you think not.
You're being way too protective of your ego. I know this sounds harsh,
but there are tons of artists better than you. You ask, how can I say
this without seeing your work? I can say this because of your
attitude. Your work is in your attitude and your attitude is in your
work. I can already tell you ignore probably sound advice. Advice that
would make your artwork even better than what it is.
To shut me up, please tell me, is your work better than:
1. Boris Vallejo's? that other fantasy guy? (you know who I'm talking
about)
2. Norman Rockwell's?
3. this Bourgeues (sp) fellow
If your work is better than these folks, then you're a king. You're
the man. You're the best artist and everyone else sucks buttermilk
bisquits. I bow down to you. I love you. I want to be you.
OKAY?!?!?
> That's why I'm pushing myself really
> hard to develop serious skills and I just spent about $500 on a ton of
> art instruction books. I think I have enough talent. I just have to
> push my abilities & knowledge as high as I can. I've also personally
> met working artists. I met three who worked on computer games. I don't
> plan to be one of those struggling guys trying to get their paintings
> seen in galleries. I plan to do some kind of commercial art and in my
> spare time I can make my own paintings that express my own visions. I
> used to do customer service work and it was pure hell. I want to make
> a living doing something I enjoy. Nobody is going to discourage me
> from trying to make it in art.
GOOD!! That's what you're *supposed* to do!! STAY FOCUSED. Leave the
soft and fuzzy creatures alone. All you'll get are more soft and fuzzy
creatures to DISTRACT YOU. It's a scene right out of Gremlins. GET
IT???
> By the way, beans are very healthy.
>
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Kelby
manner in which you respond to simple questions. The original poster
asked a straightforward question hoping to make a few bucks doing
something he enjoys. His reward is a discourse about depth and
passion from people who paint naked angels. This group is a gem. I
don't mean that as too much of a jab --- some of you take yourselves a
little too seriously, but that doesn't hurt me at all, and it is very
entertaining.
By the way, what's with the naked angels? As far as naked angels go,
they are nice enough paintings, and they are tasteful. It just seems
a little weird that of all the things you could have advertised about
your angel paintings, you promote the fact that they are naked. Good
luck with them in any event.
Regards.
Nerd Gerl
statement?
In short, I saw angels and they were naked. So that is what I call
them. Naked Angels. There is nothing ahead, abreast, and behind that
description.
Gotta website?
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