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Randolphlee

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Jun 4, 2001, 7:36:09 PM6/4/01
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Greetings,

Large portfolio of figurative paintings, drawings and sculptures is on
view at

http://www.randolphlee.com

This is a cross section of work produced since the 1970s. Comments
are welcome in the guestbook section.

Thank you, and feel free to enjoy the exhibition.


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Randolphlee McIver | Figurative Painter, Draughtsman, Sculptor
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Fine Art Portfolio: http://www.randolphlee.com
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mdeli

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Jun 6, 2001, 4:06:18 AM6/6/01
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(Randolphlee) wrote:

>Greetings,
>
>Large portfolio of figurative paintings, drawings and sculptures is on
>view at
>
>http://www.randolphlee.com

At last, someone here who has skill. I guess he would deny it but in
spite of his philosophy I see the influence of art deco. He can draw,
has ideas and the skill to carry them out.

Its not the kind of stuff I like but it is attractive and interesting
and I admire anyone who can do something well that most can't.

BTW if you want to see some fine work of in styles I happen to like
check out the work of Gil Bruvel and James Christenson on the net. In
spite of the examples of the patzers here there is lots of fine work
on the net but it requires a bit of sorting among the vast majority of
garbage.
...no skill no art

Modern Academic Art is incompetence in search of an idea.

Tired of Modern Art? Check out my web page!

http://www.interlog.com/~hugod/

Chris

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Jun 6, 2001, 8:04:30 AM6/6/01
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Hi;

You might want to check out:

http://www.uaq.mx/EBA/carbonell/index.html

For those who don't read Spanish, just click on the arrows at the bottom
of the pages.

Regards;

Chris

silverpoint

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Jun 6, 2001, 5:59:02 PM6/6/01
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Interesting,

We've all seen Mani's rants again and again, and we all know that he's
bright, energetic, means well, and that his heart is in the right place.

But it is interesting here to see him flummoxed by something outside of his
range. Like so many, he's tied to century old arguments about "abstract"
vs. "representational" painting, and the like, arguments that were perhaps
irrelvant or should never have been made.

On this artist's work, he seems genuinely puzzled as to what to say. This
is likely due to the fact that despite his constant admonitions, right as
they may be, about "skill" and the perils of modern academic art, about
which he is completely right, he is mistaken and short sighted on a few
points--

1) Notions of "skill" are defined by the likes of Bougereau and Salvador
Dali, there's no concept of the ART or the form of little nobodies like
Michelangelo, Raphael and the ancient Greeks, something that the hacks whom
he admires can only ape at a great distance. Why champion a bunch of losers
like Boug. and Dali when there's a whole universe of art that blows it out
of the water, freely available and widely known? His notions of what
comprises "skill" are, ironically, Modernist to an extreme, perhaps defined
by some ability to flatly mimic photographic imagery. To fully understand
what I mean, take a pleasant little trip to the Sistine Chapel-- Bougereau
will no longer be of any concern to you, nor such tepid notions of "skill."
Even by saying "I see the influence of art deco" he reveals that his
prejudices and opinions are wholly modernist. Even his own constant rants
are like a modernist, surrealistic collage of the writings of Salvador Dali,
Tom Wolfe's "The Painted Word," and the like, in fact his web page with it's
examples of skill are taken from Dali, right down to the punchline about
Picasso.

2) This artist's "philosophy" openly mentions not only modernist influences,
but invokes the art of the Renaissance and the ancient Greeks. Not too
palettable to a well meaning soul like Mani, no doubt, who doesn't see a
bigger picture in which art has been perhaps stagnant for way too many years
since the end of WW II. Mani must live in a private universe in which the
airplane and the motorcar were also irrelevant, much like Modernism and the
pet peeves Cezanne and Picasso.

3) Finally, an artist even Mani admits has "skill," and who can really draw.
Why champion, again, a bunch of hacks and illustrators, when real painting
can be had, for those who can grasp it. An all time first, from what I've
read here and elsewhere, only Mani doesn't know what to make of it, exactly.

There's other points to be made here, these are just for starters.


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Philip Ayers

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Jun 6, 2001, 5:59:48 PM6/6/01
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in article 9fm8nt$hpo$1...@bob.news.rcn.net, silverpoint at
etenth...@hotmail.com wrote on 6/6/01 5:59 PM:

> 3) Finally, an artist even Mani admits has "skill," and who can really draw.
> Why champion, again, a bunch of hacks and illustrators, when real painting
> can be had, for those who can grasp it. An all time first, from what I've
> read here and elsewhere, only Mani doesn't know what to make of it, exactly.

I don't want to trash the artist which AH#1 like..his work is weak but it's
good to see his positive side.

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