Roy Tamer is the Son of an accomplished armature Painter who taught his Son
to Paint from the age of Four.
Tamer left formal education at the age of Fourteen,
his Family feeling that he was being restrained by the Mincing Machine of
State Education
"I knew what my future held and how I would set about it, since I was Ten
Years Old"
Tamer Started Painting Professionally at the age of Sixteen and has never
looked back.
Roy Tamers Paintings are in Private Collection both in Europe and the USA.
Anyone who was lucky enough to have brought "An Early Tamer" will think
himself to have been both extremely insightful and shrewd to have made such
an wonderful Investment
and will see the value of his Collection multiply considerably in the coming
Years.
http://www.kingsgalleries.com/1024x768/orignals/roytamer/index.htm
Kings Galleries is the Sole Representative of Roy Tamer and all requests,
questions
or enquiries should be channelled though us.
This young Rembrandt never saw a real Rembrandt painting in his entire life.
All of his time and effort is spent focusing on activating an emotional
response from the viewer when exposed to his subject - not too unlike the
sentimentalist domestic animal portrait painters who are so popular with
that percentage of the public. These paintings may be great on the walls of
tacky gay bath house but the art content is minor.
I now have an idea what an armature painter is - they hang in almost every
painting waiting for someone to start them up. I'll have to say to my wife
"have you seen my armature" it's the latest rage. Another idea is that the
abstract gay artists can create and show their armature painting. They can
even make a video called 'armature action painting'.
I wonder if there is a demand for armature paintings of dogs, cats etc.
remember to keep your armature clean and dry: keith.
P.S. keith is a post-modern thinker who believes nothing is sacred
everything can be played with even armatures.
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P.S. I think some of your painting is very good. According to your logic
maybe I am wrong, but I still like some of your textures so, I don't care If
you think I am not smart enough to recognise good painting - I think you are
a good painter.
keith
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> >
> > P.S. keith is a post-modern thinker who believes nothing is sacred
> > everything can be played with even armatures.
> >
>
> Keith: perhaps you need an art history lesson to find out what an
> armature painter was? And while you are at it, try and do some reading
> up on the post-modern debate. I can recommend some books, if you
> like. If you were truly a postmodernist thinker then you would not
> have posted what you did. What's your real problem with the site? The
> work is accomplished - it follows a contemporary line in Gay art (in
> terms of the re-writing of art history) and it is totally inoffensive.
> You sound very confused. Or maybe you are just trying to be too
> clever.
> Alison
> http://raimes.com
I hold the opinion that Mani is wrong when he proclaims the artistic
superiority of big 'B', who I hold to be the 19th century heterosexual soft
porn king of art. my view of Mr. Tamer's homosexual soft porn painting is
consistent with my view of 19th century soft porn painting.
Just because it is being painted now and assigned the phrase contemporary
gay art does not change its content.
Your remark about my comment to the photographer is perfectly consistent
with (you are not going to like this) your being female. There are alpha
male posturing that belong to males and this was one such posturing.
With regard to my ability to sense texture. Having gone through extensive
psychological testing during a divorce custody battle a few decades past I
became aware of my abnormally high sensitivity to textures.
With regard to your reading list - I have no intention of running out and
acquainting myself with the writings of philosophers whose names I have
forgotten and who you so pretentiously imply my having no acquaintance.
Did you know that the writer cannot control how the reader will interpret
his or her written word. That your own emotional structure - for better or
worse - will be projected onto the words you read and that each of us think
of self as being a wonderful person.
You may have read the ideas contained in my previous statement some where -
but the difference between us may be that you recommend I read a thousand
books and I just summarise the ideas as part of normal communication without
trying to impress my reader with the latest intellectual reading list.
have fun Alison: keith
P.S. remember tinman is looking for a heart not a brain.
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> > yes, yes, yes, yes and yes
> >
> > P.S. I think some of your painting is very good. According to your logic
> > maybe I am wrong, but I still like some of your textures so, I don't
care If
> > you think I am not smart enough to recognise good painting - I think you
are
> > a good painter.
> >
> > keith
>
> Very clever - for someone made of tin ;-)
>
> But on a more serious note - how can you make a judgement about good
> and bad based on texture that you have not ever seen other than
> through a flat screen? If you had made it on colour, composition or
> conception, then one might be more inclined to take notice. You made a
> harsh judgement about a photographer's work recently - work that I
> found aesthetically very pleasing. You took it upon yourself to bid
> him farewell - as if he has no right to be here. Why? Are you a
> terrible prude? or homophobic perhaps?
>
> So, if you are genuinely interested in the postmodern debate - and not
> just as a flippant gesture of your own ego (the growth of which seems
> to be on the incline these days)then I suggest you start with the
> anti-philosophy works of Nietzsche then follow that with Lyotard's
> _The Postmodern Condition_ in which he discusses what it is to be a
> human in the technological age. After that Foucault and his thoughts
> on power and the way that our ideas are formed (I would spend
> particular time with him, if I were you and maybe think about the
> circumstances in which you are developing your aesthetic judegements).
> Follow that with a reading of Baudrillard and the idea that history
> has become an illusion and complete the task with Derrida and his end
> of history deconstruction.
>
> That should keep you busy for a while.
> Alison
> http://raimes.com
But that's the twist of life - there is one spot remaining where your human
side emerges. Hopefully you won't choke it off.
I used to work for a Dutchman - a member of the Dutch underground during
WW2. He said you could always spot the Nazis - they couldn't laugh at
themselves - everything was serious.
It is unlikely you will change - you're finished - accept it: keith
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> > You may have read the ideas contained in my previous statement some
where -
> > but the difference between us may be that you recommend I read a
thousand
> > books and I just summarise the ideas as part of normal communication
without
> > trying to impress my reader with the latest intellectual reading list.
>
> Sorry Keith - I thought that in amongst all the yesses in your last
> post one of them was an acceptance of my offer to provide a reading
> list. I apologise most profusely - I wouldn't have wasted my time if I
> had known you weren't really interested in the post-modern debate (and
> only using the term for effect). You clearly have no understanding of
> the term, nor any desire to learn - therefore your opinions will never
> be more then Dan's *I like/don't like that*.
>
> BTW, if Tinman had a brain he would have bought a biolgy book and
> found out where his heart was . and saved himself that great long walk
> up the yellow brick road ;-)
>
> Alison
> http://raimes.com
Rembrandt ... ???
Hardly so.
More like undeveloped, one-eyed & colour-blind, queer "Rubens" (with a
huge brain tumour).
Even technically it's just too bad to put word "classical" near by it.
I think she is just about done with her post graduate studies. And after she
talks the "voice" of others in "life" she might find her own.
It's a fantasy I am glad to give up.
take care: keith
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> > It is unlikely you will change - you're finished - accept it: keith
>
> Thank goodness for that - I thought I was going to have to live a
> whole new life :-) Or I guess I could end up like you and our
> photographer friend here ....... with nothing to say and nowhere to go
> ;-)))
>
> wink, wink
> A
Alison as far as I care you can live by the rules of post modernism. For
myself being educated I get to make up my own rules in image makeing.
Yes, I can see that (though I've seen no evidence here of an education
;-). But what do you mean that I can live by the rules of
postmodernism? There are no rules! Don't be confused with someone
having an interest in the postmodern debate with someone who is
adhering to the concepts. It was Keith that claimed the title of
*postmodern thinker* - albeit flippantly (like most of his posts). It
is that sort of woolly, superficial use of the term that confuses.
I personally have always maintained a modernist stance in my artistic
practice, believing that pure abstract art has not yet been explored
enough to be dismissed. I pay particular attention to the Kantian
sublime (modernist) and the origins (which have been severely
distorted by the careless use of the term). My project involves
investigating the Kantian theories of reason and freedom and the
bridging of the two ideas into critical judgements (and hence the
sublime) - without merging them. Thus any work I do is aimed at
exploring the roots of abstract thinking (in particular the formless
such as light) and developing a way of making the concept of the
Kantian sublime accessible to a modern day audience.
However, what I choose to do in the studio doesn't mean that I am not
interested in postmodern thinking. I don't find that it has been
totally useful in art, but I do find it has been in other arenas -
I've just written an anti-postmodernist paper that outlines why I
think it has been not served a particulary useful part in the
development of art. But you must understand something before you can
reject it and very few people take the time to do that. They claim to
have, like Keith, but in fact they have not - and it shows in their
dialogue.
In light of my masters degree project, I find the idea of
desconstructing fascinating - I guess that is what I am doing by
returning to the origins of Kantian thinking. So in that, I could be
accused of being a postmodern thinker. Also the idea of destroying the
power structure of mainstream and including the peripherals is
important to me - hence the developement of the Artlives project
(which is two years old now).
You'd be hard pressed to substantiate the idea that I adhere to a set
of rules in anything I do. But you have to agree that it is
particularly postmodern of me to even think that you and I could
engage in a useful debate on the subject .... you being so educated
;-)
Alison A Raimes
http://raimes.com
http://artlives.org.uk
Does flippancy have rules? I make up the rules as I go along. Each exchange
requires the creation of a new set of rules all based upon game theory.
Poor Alison you keep trying - stringing out your long words that only
obscure shadow people use - I didn't say understand - trying to impress the
little people. You are so far above us. Yet you spit on us. Yes you spit on
us with your big words knowing that our dictionaries are small and yours is
big.
Is that what your masters degree has done to you. Your taxpayers supported
education. You look down an spit on the little taxpayers whose money helped
pay for your masters degree.
I am shocked - reduced to tears - my feelings will never recover. Thoughts
of suicide enter my head. You have made me feel worthless - what kind of
human being are you!
keith: the postmodernist thinker.
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And that is what the modernist said about there movement.
> But what do you mean that I can live by the rules of
>postmodernism?
One rule "of thumb" for post modernism is that "everything" becomes context.
on to something else
>It was Keith that claimed the title of
>*postmodern thinker* - albeit flippantly (like most of his posts). It
>is that sort of woolly, superficial use of the term that confuses.
Who gives a fuck, I don't care to much for people that try to position
themeselves as any be all and end all. (For some reason Time Magazine, Rolling
Stone, and Sports Illustrated come to mind.) And you Allison are just as
guilty as you accuse Keith of being however you have not made it to Mani level
nor keith.