The Open Sketch Book
John Moore
Ponderable
Bad ad. Who wants to look at sketches?
Tim
Bethany
Ponderable wrote in message >
(snip)>Bad ad. Who wants to look at sketches?
>
>Tim
John Moore
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John Moore
The Open Sketch Book
http://home.earthlink.net/~johnmoore100/
Ponderable <ponde...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >Visit the Open Sketch Book
>
Ponderable
Yo, I'm on your side.
I'm just saying that your site would be apt (IMHO) to get more hits if you
referred to it as a gallery or studio. Even if it only contains sketches,
people would have to go there to check it out.
By and large, people are not really interested in sketches. Go to many
galleries which feature sketches? Know of any book stores which sell rough
drafts? I mean, maybe, if you become famous for your paintings or sculpture,
then people might take an interest in anything and everything you do.
My suggestion only concerned your "ad" and was simply intended as something to
think about with your success in mind.
As for your reply, well, I have a hard time respecting you for saying that. I
mean, I didn't invite anyone to view my sketches. I've never publicly shown
them for the same reasons I stated above. Not a lot of interest.
Don't be petty bro. If you don't want response, don't post anything. I gave you
as good as I had to give. If I had posted an invitation (or any of my messages
for that matter) I am nothing but honored by a response of any kind.
Even yours.
It inspired this. I am happy for the opportunity to make myself more clear.
Thank you.
Tim Folzenlogen
John Moore
John Moore
even negative ones, but you have to admit it seems kind of ignorant for a
couple of artists to agree that nobody wants to look at sketches. I don't
believe that's what you meant, but that's how it sounded,so sorry for the
misunderstading.
Actually you have a valid point about calling it a sketch book. As a
teenager I used to get highly upset at my dad for calling my finished
drawings "sketches". These days I try not to put so much importance on
labels. Call it a drawing or call it a sketch but if its done well most
people will respond favorably.
For me the internet is an opprotunity to get away from the formality of a
gallery. You have to get dressed up to go to a gallery, but not to surf. I
always stiffin up a little bit when I go to an online "gallery" page, where
you arent even allowed to download the images for wallpaper, so, I probably
am making some dumb mistakes, but I want to do things a little differently.
Anyhow, it's a waste of time to argue about titles for an artists site since
the major search engines tend to list artists by name alphabetically buried
under ten thousand layers of catagories which don't really fit anybody.
Sorry again for the misunderstanding,
--
John Moore
The Open Sketch Book
http://home.earthlink.net/~johnmoore100/
John Moore <johnmo...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Erik A. Mattila
you left traces of your thought processes on the page. That's always very
interesting. But I'm curious -- how many impressions are you getting from your
drypoints before the line loses that 'velvety' quality? The best I've ever
done is about 10 before all those 'zinc feathers' flatten out and goes dull.
But hey, all the self portraits looked like the same person to me, even with
the moustache.
Erik Mattila
Ponderable
I'm a New Yorker.
To offend a New Yorker you pretty much have to hit them over the head with a
baseball bat.
Here, strong opinions and argument are as common as pigeons. It's one of the
things I like about the place. One can move faster here because people are more
apt to tell you exactly what they are thinking. You don't have to waste time
being diplomatic.
I'm fond of saying that "diplomacy" is just another word for "takes longer".
Tim Folzenlogen
John Moore
that I haven't worked long enough on a single press to get a good feel for
the pressure settings. Most of these were done on copper plates, though.
It's harder to work on copper, but the burr holds up almost twice as long.
--
John Moore
The Open Sketch Book
http://home.earthlink.net/~johnmoore100/
Erik A. Mattila <emat...@tomatoweb.com> wrote in message
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> > Sorry again for the misunderstanding,
> >
Walter Idema
artist that is always looking for technique ideas in building up finished
work in various mediums. I could watch my browser download finished
masterpieces all day long, (or just go to the library and museums), but I
get a great sense of comaraderie and inspiration in viewing "work in
progress," or sketches by such a fine artist as yourself. This is exactly
the type of thing I am looking for here besides suggestions on where to find
good tips and techniques. Thanks for all the effort you have put in to
scanning and webmastering, it is greatly appreciated.
Walt
John Moore <johnmo...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Visit the Open Sketch Book
Larry Seiler
> galleries which feature sketches?
In some defense, I have found this not to always be necessarily true. I
have been painting wildlife, nature and landscapes for nearly 25 years. In
that time..I've won several competitions, and I find that at shows, people
absolutely love to pour over my sketchbooks. They seem to know just enough
about art and anticipate the depth of my researching my subjects that they
can sense that looking at a sketchbook is perhaps one of the closest means
of getting "into" my head. Seeing through this artist's eyes.
My favorite sketching tool is the expensive BIC medium black ball point
pen. I sketch from life...and then use a Cotman Field Watercolor set to
quickly and loosely wash color over many of the sketches.
Sorry...but after people spend some quality time looking at my paintings at
shows...they delight...I mean, absolutely delite looking at my sketches.
Often...they like to see me sketch, and enjoy the speed for which I combine
a gesture and contour to capture and suggest form...detail.
Also...who is to say that "galleries" always have a pulse on what people
will like???
I have discovered this last year the value of painting my plein airs where
people can see them. I've painted at festivals, road sides, fields, etc.,
and often people have incredible curiosity and wander over.
Musicians sell more CD's and products such as shirts as a result of an
"experience" people have in attending their concert. They buy
spontaneously to maintain that connection.
I am learning that galleries are not necessarily the "best" way to get out
there where the public is. Though my work is in a number of galleries, I
find the public has been disconnected from the mystery of art making.
Your choices seem to be to play upon people's interests with marketing and
bio's...or let them experience the magic. Sketches sorta bring people in.
Like a "hook" in a song, they are captivating.
Now....I suppose it depends very much on whether or not people are
interested in the main body of work to begin with or are likely to. If
they do...at least from my experience, I recommend having about 3-4 hard
cover bound sketchbooks filled with work.
peace,
Larry
Larry Seiler
artist's site- http://cwinc.net/larryseiler
WetCanvas Artists page- (shorter and quicker loading)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/Gallery/S/Larry_Seiler/index.html
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
depends on the unreasonable man." George Bernard Shaw
Ponderable
>people can see them. I've painted at festivals, road sides, fields, etc.,
>and often people have incredible curiosity and wander over.
I loved reading your post. It's like I could almost hear your accent. You write
real neighborly.
Checked out Brian's Walleye. It was the only painting in the gallery. Nice
friendly piece. You paint just like you talk.
I use to show on the street in NYC. I liked that experience also. It is nice to
meet the people and have conversations.
I don't like to paint on the street for much the same reason. Can't paint and
talk at the same time. Also, the conversations lean toward "My brother's
girlfriend's cousin is an artist" kind of a thing.
Tim Folzenlogen
Alison A Raimes
<lse...@ez-net.com> writes
>In some defense, I have found this not to always be necessarily true. I
>have been painting wildlife, nature and landscapes for nearly 25 years. In
>that time..I've won several competitions, and I find that at shows, people
>absolutely love to pour over my sketchbooks. They seem to know just enough
>about art and anticipate the depth of my researching my subjects that they
>can sense that looking at a sketchbook is perhaps one of the closest means
>of getting "into" my head. Seeing through this artist's eyes.
I agree totally with Larry. The Picasso museum in Barcelona has such a
wonderful display of his sketches over the years that you almost forget
the paintings are there at all in fact most major exhibitions always
display the artists sketches. Isn't the process towards the final piece
as relevant as the final piece ?
The problem is that sketch books can be so personal. I always had one
that I never show anyone ... I think most artists probably do. One of
our students committed suicide just before we finished at foundation
course. We decided to put his work up for final assessment and his
sketchbooks were displayed alongside the work. It was one of the most
influential moments on many of our future lives as artists in that it
revealed what was going on inside him, that none of us had really
identified and most of us felt guilty about.
Alison
ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
Lauri Levanto
is the museum of scetches, Skissmuseum in Lund, Sweden.
There is another, smaller one in Copenhagen.
-lauri
Larry Seiler wrote:
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> > By and large, people are not really interested in sketches. Go to many
> > galleries which feature sketches?
>
> In some defense, I have found this not to always be necessarily true.
>
John Moore
Barnes Foundation that houses alot of early works and small studies by all
the major post impressionists and early moderns.
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John Moore
The Open Sketch Book
http://home.earthlink.net/~johnmoore100/
Lauri Levanto <lauri....@nokia.com> wrote in message
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John Moore
not galleries and museums show sketches, people just don't experience the
internet the same way they do a live exhibition. The context is completely
different, and I think that allows for a little more intimacy.