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Poor drawing and painting technique.
>True. But his work shows promise. If this artist were to find a good
>teacher and work hard, I think he could produce some good things.
Probably!
His subject matter is really conventional. Yes, with the addition of
what you recomend he would probably be able to do work of more
complexity and be able to execute ideas he may have. However, what you
say holds true for most artists who show on the net, but first you
would need the teachers. The problem is that most teachers know even
less than he does.
Personally, I appreciate your periodic reviews; it's better than most of the
writing we get here in RAF (although proof-reading would help, for instance,
note the first "a" in "melancholia"). It's also criticism written by a
working artist, which tends to be more interesting than the work of
professional critics, since there's a place you're coming from that can be
seen in your work. I've never been to the Royal Hibernian Academy, but I did
think that London's Royal Academy show had something for everybody the last
time I went. I thought that was the point - inclusiveness for inclusiveness'
sake.
You should realize that the names which for you denote the dozen or so art
stars of Ireland mean little or nothing to most of us here - I read a lot
about art in general, but I've never heard of any of them. So when you're
doing this in future, feel free to include links to the artist's work on the
net - here's a google image search for Hughie O'Donoughue, for instance:
http://tinyurl.com/25pl94 - his non photo-based work, to me, was reminiscent
of the late Goya - perhaps too self-consciously so. Here's one for John
Bellany CBE, etc: http://tinyurl.com/2ykspm whose work to me seems to veer
unevenly between Matisse and Grandma Moses. Maybe it's just me, but I don't
see how a guy with all those initials after his name can justify posing as a
naif.
Perhaps the most interesting aspect of this piece was your attempt to figure
out your own place in the scheme of things, among the few artists whose work
you respect, or among the "tenth-rate" artists you actually know. Are you
more impressed by the degrees, the appended initials (we don't have those
here), the media attention than you let on? Why simultaneously bash one
artist for being "out of fashion" and another for being new and too clever?
Are these the poles you find yourself fluctuating between?
You do seem like an artist who has yet to settle down into a niche, which is
not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe that's because of the "failure" you
mention, since success seems to lock artists into working only in the mode
that brought it about. Unlike some here, I think your technical skills are
adequate to the artistic tasks you've imposed on yourself; the problem may
be that you're trying too hard, expecting to get attention for being
shocking, when the era for that is long past. If you were to enter one of
these big shows you scorn, what would you submit? One of the retro pieces
that echo commercial illustrations of the '50s and '60s? The porno-style
paintings (which would likely be rejected because of their subject matter,
allowing you to complain about censorship)? The Picassoesque doodles (done
just to show that anyone can paint like that?) The neo-Basquait pieces with
writing and scribbles? Or the quieter pieces where it seems like you let
yourself just paint, without particularly trying to prove anything to
anyone - which I liked best, actually, like Trees in a Park in Madrid :
http://tinyurl.com/349t8d . Or are you afraid that some impatient young
critic would dismiss them as old-fashioned?
Andrew Werby
www.computersculpture.com
"cypher" <cyp...@thepanicartist.com> wrote in message
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>It seems like you, Mani, and Biljo are all on the same page; you despise the
>last hundred years or so of art history, you don't really respect any modern
>artists,
There are as many great modern artists as any before. They just aren't
represented in the modern sections of museums at the moment.
>and your teachers were apparently the worst of all. So why can't
>you all get along?
>
Although we don't agree on art I suspect my general outlook and
opinions aren't very different from White's and probably your's.