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Watercolor lightfastness testing, 12/01/01 update

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Bob & Dale Ford

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Dec 2, 2001, 12:58:09 AM12/2/01
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Interesting, not surprised about the prussian blue results but surprised that the
Senneliers hookers green didn't fade. Hooker's green is generally not considered
light fast at all ( so much so I would never even think about using it.) Like I
said interesting.
Dale

dkra wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes
>
> Here is an update on some lightfastness testing of watercolor paints I
> began this July.
>
> ******
> Testing method:
>
> For tube color, measure out pea-sized dab of tube color mixed with water.
> For pan color, charge brush thoroughly.
> Lay out color (masstone to tint) in 1" x 3" swatch with Yarka 1" flat or
> Winsor & Newton Cirrus One Stroke bright kolinsky sable brush, on Arches
> 140-lb. cold-pressed 100% cotton rag paper.
> Let swatch dry. Cut in two (long way) along center line.
> Mount one half of swatch (test) with tape (back only) or glue on paper and
> fasten to windowpane in north-facing sunny window.
> Store other half of swatch in a plastic bag, place in a dark,
> seldom-accessed desk drawer.
> Check swatches periodically for color changes. Testing should be about 6
> months total during sunniest months (Northern Hemisphere).
>
> Unless otherwise indicated, all paints tested were "artists'" quality (not
> student range).
>
> Unless otherwise indicated, all paints tested were tube paints; pan paints
> are indicated with a "#" sign.
>
> Discontinued brands also tested:
> Pebeo (Fragonard)
> Shiva (Creative Arts)
> Shiva (Contemporary)
> Liquitex (Color Index number estimated from listed contents on tube)
> Permanent Pigments (Color Index number estimated from listed contents on tube)
> Rowney Artists (now Daler-Rowney)
> plus some discontinued** (pre-1996) Winsor & Newton stock.
>
> ++++++++
>
> 7/14/01-12/01/01 = 20 weeks exposure
>
> ========================================================================
> NO CHANGE (test swatch matches control swatch):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
> Daniel Smith Genuine Lapis Lazuli 036 PB-N/A
> Winsor & Newton# Winsor Blue (RS) 709 PB15
> Winsor & Newton Neutral Tint 430 PB15+PBk6+PV19
> Winsor & Newton Payne's Gray 465 PB15+PBk6+PV19
> Sennelier Phthalo Blue 326 PB15
> Utrecht Phthalo Blue 28154 PB15
> Sennelier# Cinerous Blue 344 PB15+PW6
> Perm. Pigments Phthalocyanine Blue 316 PB15:6?
> Holbein Marine Blue W102 PB16
> Sennelier# Cobalt Blue 307 PB28
> Winsor & Newton Cobalt Blue 178 PB28
> Sennelier# Cobalt Green 856 PB28+PG7+PW6
> Sennelier# Ultramarine Deep 315 PB29
> Holbein Manganese Blue W300 PB33
> Winsor & Newton Manganese Blue 071** PB33
> Winsor & Newton Cerulean Blue 065 PB35
> Winsor & Newton Indathrene Blue 321 PB60
> Perm. Pigments Lampblack 250 PBk6
> Winsor & Newton Blue Black 004 PBk6
> Winsor & Newton Indigo 322 PBk6+PV19+PB15
> Sennelier# Payne's Gray 703 PBk7+PB15+PV19
> Liquitex Burnt Umber 128 PBr7
> Daler-Rowney Raw Umber 247 PBr7
> Daniel Smith Monte Amiata Nat. Sienna 056 PBr7
> Perm. Pigments Burnt Siena 127 PBr7
> Sennelier# Burnt Sienna 211 PBr7
> Sennelier Raw Umber 205 PBr7
> Winsor & Newton Burnt Sienna 008 PBr7
> M. Graham Pthalocyanine Green 33-150 PG7
> Pebeo Cyanine Green 246 PG7
> Perm. Pigments Pthalocyanine Green 317 PG7
> Winsor & Newton Winsor Green (BS) 719 PG7
> Winsor & Newton Terre Verte 048 PG23+PG18
> Schmincke Cobalt Green Dark 533 PG26
> MaimeriBlu Cupric Green Light 322 PG3
> Utrecht Cobalt Teal 28166 PG50
> Winsor & Newton# Cobalt Green 184 PG50
> Sennelier# Hooker's Green 809 PG7+PY83
> Yarka# Russian Green 303 PG8
> Pebeo Greengold 237 PG10
> M. Graham Viridian 33-195 PG18
> Winsor & Newton Viridian 692 PG18
> Shiva (Contemp.) Guignet's Green PG18
> Sennelier# Viridian 837 PG18+PG7
> Old Holland Cobalt Green Turquoise E266 PG19
> Sennelier Terre Verte 213 PG23
> Utrecht Perinone Orange 28000 PO43
> Sennelier# Red Orange 640 PO43+PY83
> Old Holland Golden Barok Red C136 PO65
> Schmincke Translucent Orange 218 PO71
> Daler-Rowney Warm Orange 633 PO73
> Winsor & Newton Permanent Carmine 479 PR-N/A
> Sennelier# Rose Madder Lake 690 PR83
> Old Holland Old Holland Light Red A340 PR102
> Holbein Vermilion W218 PR108
> Holbein Cadmium Red Light W214 PR108
> Perm. Pigments Cadmium Red Medium PR108:1
> Sennelier Quinacridone Purple 671 PR122
> Daniel Smith Quin. Burnt Scarlet 087 PR206
> M. Graham Quinacridone Red 33-155 PR209
> Old Holland Scheveningen Red Deep C24 PR214
> Sennelier French Vermilion 675 PR242
> Sennelier# Sennelier Red 636 PR254
> Daler-Rowney Cobalt Magenta 417 PV14
> Holbein Cobalt Violet Light W110 PV14
> Shiva (C.Arts) Cobalt Violet 680 PV14
> MaimeriBlu Mineral Violet 460 PV16
> Sennelier# Cadmium Yellow Light 529 PY35
> Winsor & Newton Cadmium Lemon 086 PY35
> Daler-Rowney Cadmium Yellow Deep 613 PY35+PO20
> Winsor & Newton Cadmium Orange 089 PY35+PR108
> Perm. Pigments Cadmium Yellow Deep PY37:1
> Sennelier# Cobalt Violet Light Hue 911 PV16+PR122+PW6
> Sennelier# Yellow Ochre 252 PY43
> Winsor & Newton Yellow Ochre 059 PY43
> Winsor & Newton# Lemon Yellow (N.T.) 347 PY53
> Daniel Smith Nickel Azo Yellow 061 PY150
> Sennelier# Sennelier Yellow Light 578 PY154
>
> ========================================================================
> CHANGED (lighter, darker, color change):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
> MaimeriBlu Turquoise Green 350 PB16
> Very slight fade
> Holbein Peacock Blue W101 PB17
> Masstone a bit duller
> Rembrandt Prussian Blue 508 PB27
> Faded
> Winsor & Newton Prussian Blue 036 PB27
> Faded
> Perm. Pigments Ultramarine Blue 380 PB29
> Slight fade in tint
> Schmincke Ultramarine Finest 494 PB29
> Very slight fade overall
> Utrecht Ultramarine Blue 28151 PB29
> Very slight fade overall
> Winsor & Newton French Ultramarine 263 PB29
> Very slight fade overall
> Grumbacher(Acad.) Magnesium Green A133 PB36
> Slight fade in tint
> Winsor & Newton Cobalt Blue Deep 180 PB73
> Very slight fade in masstone
> Perm. Pigments Payne's Gray PBk9+PB29
> Slight fade in tint
> Liquitex Sepia Umber 360 PBr7+PBk6
> Very slight fade overall
> Winsor & Newton Winsor Emerald 708 PG7+PW4+PY175
> Very slight fade overall
> Daniel Smith Moonglow 057 PG18+PB29+PR177
> Very slight fade
> Shiva (Contemp.) Terra Verte PG23?
> Slightly cooler, bluer
> Old Holland Scheveningen Orange C18 PO69
> Slight fade in tint
> Winsor & Newton Carmine 127** NR4
> Bleached out, faint maroon smudge left
> Winsor & Newton Rose Madder Genuine 587 NR9
> Bluer, faded overall
> Perm. Pigments Alizarine Crimson PR83:1
> Light fade overall
> Sennelier# Alizarin Crimson 689 PR83:1
> Slightly warmer overall
> Winsor & Newton Alizarin Crimson 004 PR83:1
> Very slightly warmer overall
> Winsor & Newton Indian Red 317 PR101
> Very slightly warmer overall
> Winsor & Newton Cadmium Scarlet 084 PR108
> Very slight fade in tint
> Winsor & Newton Quinacridone Magenta 545 PR122
> Very slight fade overall
> Sennelier Tyrian Rose 659 PV1
> Bleached out, almost white
> Sennelier Red Violet 905 PV1+PV39
> Very bleached, only faint tint remains
> Winsor & Newton Cobalt Violet 192 PV14+PB28
> A bit cooler
> Old Holland Ultramarine Violet B199 PV15
> A bit duller overall
> Winsor & Newton Permanent Rose 502 PV19
> Very slight fade in tint
> Sennelier Blue Violet 903 PV39
> Grayer
> Old Holland Cobalt Violet Light E31 PV49
> Slightly yellower
> Winsor & Newton Gamboge Genuine 265 NY24
> Very light fade overall
> Winsor & Newton New Gamboge 020** PY1+PR3
> Very slight fade in tint
> Winsor & Newton Aureolin 016 PY40
> Duller, darker
> Sennelier# Aureolin 559 PY40
> Duller, darker
> Winsor & Newton Winsor Lemon 722 PY175
> Very slightly darker
>
> ++++++++
>
> 7/29/01-12/01/01 = 18 weeks exposure
>
> ========================================================================
> NO CHANGE (test swatch matches control swatch):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
> Holbein Opera W213 PR122+BV10
>
> ========================================================================
> CHANGED (lighter, darker, color change):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
> Holbein Vandyke Brown W339 NBr8
> Faded overall
>
> ++++++++
>
> 8/05/01-12/01/01 = 17 weeks exposure
>
> ========================================================================
> NO CHANGE (test swatch matches control swatch):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
> Schmincke Cobalt Blue Light 487 PB28
> M. Graham Cobalt Blue 090 PB28
> Sennelier Cerulean Blue 305 PB35
> Winsor & Newton Cobalt Turquoise 190 PB36
> Schmincke Titanium Gold Ocre 659 PBr24
> Schmincke Walnut Brown 652 PBr33
> Schmincke Translucent Brown 648 PBr41
> Winsor & Newton Oxide of Chromium 459 PG17
> Shiva (C.Arts) Phthalo Green 682 PG7
> Shiva (C.Arts) Cadmium Orange 670 PO20
> Schmincke# Mauve 476 PV23
> MaimeriBlu Permanent Yellow Deep 114 PY139
>
> ========================================================================
> CHANGED (lighter, darker, color change):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
> Schmincke# Brilliant Purple 930 PR81:1
> Duller, darker, warmer (now crimson, not magenta)
> Rowney Rowney Vermilion 559 PR106
> Tiny fade in tint
> Schmincke# Permanent Red 361 PR251
> Tiny fade in tint
> Winsor & Newton Mauve 398 BV1.10+BV14+PB15
> Faded overall
> Schmincke# Brilliant Blue Violet 910 PV3
> Slightly duller, grayer
> Shiva (C.Arts) Red Rose Deep (Quin.) 691 PV19
> Very slight fade in tint
>
> ++++++++
>
> 9/03/01-12/01/01 = 11 weeks exposure
>
> ========================================================================
> NO CHANGE (test swatch matches control swatch):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
> Old Holland Old Holland Blue C223 PB15
> Schmincke Helio Blue Reddish 478 PB15:6
> Old Holland O.H. Golden Green C295 PY129
>
> ========================================================================
> CHANGED (lighter, darker, color change):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
> Sennelier Prussian Blue 318 PB27
> Very faded
> Schmincke Prussian Blue 492 PB27
> Very faded
> Grumbacher Prussian Blue W168 PB27:1
> Faded overall
> Old Holland Prussian Blue (Paris) Extra A34 PB27:1+PB15
> Slight overall fade
> Blockx Vermilion 320 PR106
> Tiny bit darker in tint
>
> ++++++++
>
> 9/09/01-12/01/01 = 10 weeks exposure
>
> ========================================================================
> NO CHANGE (test swatch matches control swatch):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
> MaimeriBlu Berlin Blue 359 PB15:1
> Old Holland Mars Black A370 PBk11
> Holbein Shadow Green W279 PBk31
> Old Holland Coral Orange C145 PO67
>
> ========================================================================
> CHANGED (lighter, darker, color change):
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
> ========================================================================
>
> Old Holland Green Earth A52 PG23
> Very slightly yellower, darker overall
>
> ++++++++
>
> Not yet tested (planned for summer 2002)
>
> Brand Name and number CI Name (Pigment content)
>
> Old Holland Blue Lake B229 PB15
> Old Holland Scheveningen Blue Deep B226 PB15
> Block Blockx Blue 254 PB15
> Yarka Russian Blue 204 PB15(?)
> Schmincke Phthalo Blue 484 PB15:1
> Pebeo Cyanin Blue 231 PB15
> M. Graham Phthalocyanine Blue 140 PB15:3
> Daniel Smith Prussian Blue 082 PB27
> Blockx Cobalt Blue 352 PB28
> Yarka Cobalt Blue 203 PB28(?)
> Winsor & Newton Permanent Blue 473** PB29
> Yarka Ultramarine 202 PB29(?)
> Blockx Manganese Blue PB33
> Grumbacher Indigo W112 PB66 (Vat Blue 1)
> Sennelier Transparent Brown 635 PBr7+PR101+PBk11+PG17
> Yarka Umber Burnt 403 PBr7(?)
> Yarka Umber Raw 401 PBr7(?)
> Daniel Smith Permanent Brown 068 PBr25
> Yarka Emerald Green 301 PG7(?)
> Winsor & Newton Hooker's Green Light 314 PG12+PY100
> Winsor & Newton Davy's Gray 217 PG17+PBk6+PW4+PBk19
> Sakura Cadmium Red Pale Hue PO36
> Daniel Smith Quinacridone Burnt Orange 086 PO48
> Winsor & Newton Quinacridone Gold 0102 547 PO49
> Blockx Blockx Red 225 PR3
> Pebeo Permanent Carmine 233 PR5
> Blockx Rose Madder 222 PR83
> Yarka Carmine 106 PR83
> Yarka Madder Lake 105 PR83
> Winsor & Newton Thioindigo Violet 640 PR88
> Blockx Cadmium Purple 325 PR108
> Grumbacher Grumbacher Red 095 PR112
> Yarka Scarlet 104 PR112(?)
> Blockx Rose Madder Pale 221 PR149(?)
> MaimeriBlu Permanent Red Deep 253 PR177
> Pebeo Pink Madder 235 PR207
> Daniel Smith Pinkcolor 081 PR233
> Sakura Cadmium Red Hue 119 PR255
> Winsor & Newton Winsor Violet 728** PV5:1+Acid Blue 9
> Daniel Smith Ultramarine Red 107 PV15
> Winsor & Newton Ultramarine Violet 672 PV15
> M. Graham Quinacridone Rose 156 PV19
> M. Graham Quinacridone Violet 158 PV19
> Yarka Red Violet 201 PV23(?)
> Daniel Smith Quinacridone Pink 095 PV42
> Blockx Cobalt Violet 331 PV49
> Blockx Blockx Yellow 212 PY1
> Sennelier Lemon Yellow 501 PY3
> Holbein Cadmium Yellow Light W042 PY37
> Yarka Ochre Yellow 003 PY43(?)
> Pebeo Permanent Dark Yellow 240 PY65
> Yarka Golden Ochre 005 PY65(?)
> Pebeo Permanent Light Yellow 239 PY74 LF]
> Winsor & Newton Transparent Yellow 0102 653 PY97
> Daniel Smith Indian Yellow 045 PY108
> M. Graham Gamboge 105 PY110
> Holbein Greenish Yellow 046 PY117
> Holbein Mars Yellow W128 PY119
> Pebeo Permanent Lemon Yellow 238 PY138
> M. Graham Azo Yellow (Aureolin) 018 PY151
> Sennelier Indian Yellow 517 PY153
> Winsor & Newton Bismuth Yellow 0102 025 PY184
> ******
>
> -- dkra
>
> --
> **********************************************
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Dec 3, 2001, 2:27:27 PM12/3/01
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I have printed and checked it out, but it misses out many, so
since it's an update I searched Google but no earlier list is
in store.
Therefore if there was an earlier list would the originator repost?
Thanks,
N.H
"Dan Fox" <danf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks very much for posting your tests. I'm printing it out for
reference.
> I think most of us here (including myself) underestimate the value of this
> newsgroup in exchanging technical information.

>
>
> dk...@mmi.ix.netcom.com (dkra) wrote:
> > x-no-archive: yes
> >
> > Here is an update on some lightfastness testing of watercolor paints I
> > began this July.
> >
>
> --
> Dan
>
> 'The self, violent and constant, is the subject of all art.' - Barnett
> Newman http://www.danfoxart.com

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"Dan Fox" <danf...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Many thanks.
>
> --
> Dan

And again, Many thanks.
N.H.


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