Need book recommendations on Van Gogh
Broker
SINGLE definitive book on Van Gogh. I've found the two catalogues raisonnés
(The Works of Vincent van Gogh: His Paintings and Drawings by Dr. Jacob
Baart de la Faille and The New Complete Van Gogh: Paintings, Drawings,
Sketches by Jan Hulsker) but I don't like the fact that only a very, very
small portion of the pictures in each book are in color. I don't even know
what the book covers look like since all of the websites that list these
books don't seem to have pictures of them.
Since I'm looking for a definitive compilation of Van Gogh's work, I'd like
to have something that shows all of his available work with as much color as
possible. Unless the listings for the books above are incorrect, I was
absolutely stunned at how many of the illustrations are in black and white.
Perhaps I'm misinformed. Both books do seem to receive consistently high
marks from the few reviews I read.
The only other resource that piqued my interest was the series being
released by the Van Gogh Museum:
a.. Volume One: Drawings--The Early Years, 1880-1883
a.. Volume Two: Drawings--Nuenen, 1883-1885 (currently not available through
Amazon)
a.. Volume Three: Paintings--Dutch Period, 1881-1885
These seem to be very comprehensive as they break down each period, but I
know very little else aside from the three above. (By the way, most of this
information was culled from http://www.vangoghgallery.com, a very good
site.)
If anyone can offer any further information on these titles, or others not
mentioned, please reply. If you wish, you can contact me directly at
cs...@home.com. Many, many thanks in advance.
Sharon Barcone
Then do a search on Van Gogh.
They currently have many books and one titled "Vincent van Gogh by Himself"
boasts 230 paintings and drawings all in full color. Current bid on that
book is $20.00. Books on e-bay often are pictured and descriptions are
usually accurate and informative.
I have bought several books through and not been disappointed.
sharon
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RolandKoch
ISBN 0 86124 522 9
- An excellent, large full-colour book.
Bison Books Ltd
Kimbolton House
117A Fulham Road
LONDON SW3 6RL
England
Also try look for an old book by Time-Life on Van Gogh. It was produced
circa 1970-1975(?) as part of a series on the world's masters, about 24
volumes (incl Picasso, Cezanne, Manet, Turner, etc.. Although it may not
contain as much colour prints as the abovementioned book, it has great
detail on Vincent's life and was a very interesting read.
All the best,
Roland Koch
www.xlab.co.za
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Fawn Dew
>Also try look for an old book by Time-Life on Van Gogh.
I have the full series and still refer to
it on occasion. One of the problems, if there
are any with the series, is that the volumes
on an individual artist are written in context
of the artist's time, not as a definitive
look at the particular artist. For example,
the series' titles begin with "The World of _____"
In "The World of Van Gogh" you'll find a
chapter titled "Gauguin in Paradise" which
tells of that artist's influence upon and
relationship with Van Gogh. Conversely there
is no volume for Gauguin.
niloufer
you have to read LUST FOR LIFE by Irving Stone. Any art you see of his
after that will be filled with a greater depth when you know how it
came from the depths of his soul! Even if its in Black and white!
Niloufer
www.niloufer.com
Broker
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> I have the full series and still refer to
> it on occasion. One of the problems, if there
> are any with the series, is that the volumes
> on an individual artist are written in context
> of the artist's time, not as a definitive
> look at the particular artist. For example,
> the series' titles begin with "The World of _____"
Interesting that this particular series should come up in the conversation.
I inherited this series from my father who bought them when I was a child.
I still can't believe he gave them to me. I've always wondered if this was
a complete set or if he just stopped buying the books at some point. The
ones I have are listed below with the colors of the spines (they're grouped
by era). Can anyone tell me if this is the complete Time-Life series?
RED
Bruegel
Dürer
Michelangelo
Giotto
Leonardo
Titian
TAN
Velázquez
Rembrandt
Rubens
Watteau
Copley
Bernini
Vermeer
Gainsborough
Seven Centuries of Art (Survey and Index)
GREEN
Manet
Rodin
Winslow Homer
Van Gogh
Delacroix
Cézanne
Goya
Turner
Whistler
BLACK
Marcel Duchamp
Picasso
Matisse
American Painting 1900-1970
Broker
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Thanks for the recommendation. I'll have to pick up a copy.
Dik F. Liu
Any art you see of his after that will be filled with a greater depth when you
know how it came from the depths of his soul!<
Irving Stone's is a Hollywood version of Van Gogh. I don't know, as you do,
about the depth of Van Gogh's soul. Frankly, I don't care about his soul. This
especially when it is colored by Irving Stone. I only care about the paintings.
When I look at a painter's paintings, I consider them for what they are:
paintings. With Van Gogh's paintings, I considered them the as among the most
sobering, analytical paintings of the Postimpressionists era. Unfortunately,
today when the vulgus look at Van Gogh paintings, all they could see is the
severed ear, Kirk Douglas, and Lust for Life.
Dik
Chris
Gogh, borrow it from the library and save your money for something more
worthwhile. A good place to start is with a collection of his letters,
there's some good ones around, and he was a much better (and more
profound) writer than Stone. If you are interested in what he was trying to
achieve - something that is often ignored in our own dyspeptic era of
content-free work - take a look at Debora Silverman's "Van Gogh and Gaugin
- The Search for Sacred Art".
As for collected works, there was one book of complete drawings put out a
number of years ago (I saw it in a used book store, but it was , alas,
beyond my price range), and for the paintings, there is the Taschen set,
"Van Gogh, the Complete Paintings" by Walther and Metzger, which is ok, but
not great.
Regards;
Chris
Fawn Dew
says...
>Can anyone tell me if this is the complete Time-Life series?
Yep. Without comparing title for title,
you listed 28 volumes and that's what
I've got too. I've often wondered why
TIME-LIFE didn't continue this series
into the latter days. I'd have thought
that volumes on those artists who are now
20th century legends would have sold
well. Now a question for someone who
may know - Does TIME-LIFE still publish
books of any kind? I haven't received
a junk-mail ad from them in ages.
Fawn Dew
says...
>Irving Stone's is a Hollywood version of Van Gogh.
As I'm sure you know, there has been a proliferation
of fictional books lately on lives of the great
artists. I read both books on Vermeer recently.
Girl with the Pearl Earring and another that
I can't recall the title of. Presently I'm
enjoying the biographical account (NOT fiction)
of Hans Christian Andersen, by Jackie Wullschlager.
It's recommended by me - if for no other reason
than for the vivid picture she paints of Danish
life in the 18-19th century, with references
to visual and performing artists of that era.
Dik F. Liu
writes:
>As I'm sure you know, there has been a proliferation of fictional books lately
on lives of the great artists. I read both books on Vermeer recently. Girl with
the Pearl Earring and another that I can't recall the title of.<
I think that the other novel is on Vermeer's The Music Lesson. A colleague who
read the book mentioned it to me. I love the carpet covering the table. In its
front corner Vermeer subtly heightened the colors' intensity. It brings that
corner closer to the viewer, creating a perfect entry point withwhich to lead
the viewer into the deep perspectival space.
Re: "Girl with a Pearl Earring." I saw the painting about five years ago, after
it was cleaned. Here was gorgeous woman glazing at the viewer with her
innocent, liquid eyes. And as the painting was cleaned, we can now clearly see
that there is a faint touch of highlight in each corner of the girl's sumptuous
lips, indicating their moistness. And between those slightly parted lips
Vermeer painted in what must be the most erotic passage in the history of Dutch
genre painting. Vermeer painted the highlight of this girl's obviously wet
tongue. Only Vermeer!
I wonder how the novel compares.
Dik
niloufer
of the artists, but is that reason to turn up our arty noses at it?
The fact is its because of these "Hollywood" versions that when I look
at Van Gogh's "potatoe eaters" I see not just whats considered his
first great work, but the story of the reason he felt the need to
create it, and it becomes more than just a sketch. Similarly the
passing brilliance in his life we see in Sunflowers.
The same reasons I'd recomment "Hollywood" versions of Gaugin's life
in "the Moon and Six pence" - Somerset Maugham, or Irving Stones
version of Michealangelo in "Agony in Estascy".
Because simply, the art you loved anyway, is suddenly more beautiful
because you have also gotten to know the artist.
Niloufer
niloufer
Dik F. Liu
Gogh's "potatoe eaters" I see not just whats considered his first great work,
but the story of the reason he felt the need to create it, and it becomes more
than just a sketch.<
You know, you remind me of an art student who did a class presentation on Van
Gogh. While she projected a slide of Van Gogh's Starry Night, she played an
audio tape of Starry Night - the pop song. So moved of she by Starry Night -
either by the painting or by the pop song - that she burst into tears and began
sobbing uncontrollably.
Oh, Mercy.
I hate to burst your bubble. What makes Van Gogh an important artist is his
art, not the hard luck story portrayed by Hollywood. When you look at his
sunflower try to look pass the severed ear. When you look at his self-portrait,
look pass Kirk Douglas. Learn to analyze Van Gogh's paintings as paintings;
that is, pictorially. It might not be as romantic as "Lust for Life" makes it
out to be, but it will reward you in a deeper, more profound level. Van Gogh
was among the most intelligent, savvy, analytical painter of his generation.
He is not the cliche of crazed genius Hollywood would have you believe. His art
is sophisticated and interesting enough that it needn't any fictional peppering
from Irving Stone.
By the way, only Dan Quayle spells potato with an e.
Dik
Dik F. Liu
writes:
>Kirk Douglas proves he can't act, and the script is just silly.<
The stuffing to match the turkey.
Dik
Joe Bennett
Get:
Van Gogh (subtitle) His Life and His Art
by David Sweetman
Published in 1990 by Crown Publishers
Scholarship: Excellent
Writing: Reasonable
Illustrations: None, this is for readers
Best I've seen and quite authentic. No sentimental schmaltz whatever.
Regards,
Joe Bennett
Joe Bennett
Dan Quail? Who's Dan Quail?
Joe
Joe Bennett
Sorry about this misstatement regarding illustrations. I pulled the book off
the shelf and yep, there's a bit here and there, some color, but not much and
certainly not enough to suggest it as a survey of his work. Some interesting
photos, however. The basic recommendation is for this as a reader, not as a
looker.
Joe
Clara Knett
says...
>By the way, only Dan Quayle spells potato with an e.
Now now Dik. Potatoes is spelled with an e, and
that's what Dan has never acknowledged - that
he was interrupted before he could say s.
I agree wholeheartedly with your remarks about
Van Gogh's art speaking TONS about Van Gogh
the artist. He was simply out of sinc with the
time he lived. He'd fit right into any art
fair showing today.
Dik F. Liu
writes:
>I agree wholeheartedly with your remarks about Van Gogh's art speaking TONS
about Van Gogh the artist. He was simply out of sinc with the time he lived.
He'd fit right into any art fair showing today.<
Clara, Imagined in 1890 when Van Gogh pulled out his bang-bang, about to pull
the trigger, and at that crucial moment for whatever reason he chickened out.
Imagine if he went on to live and to paint like Van Gogh.
Van Gogh would see, at age 59, Dechamp's Nude Descending the Staircase. In age
60, he would see Coca-Cola becoming a popular soft drink. At age 70, he would
see the Dada movement not only formed but disbanded. By the time he died, he
would have been seen as one of the many fogies painting in an obsolete art
style from yesteryear, another has-been from the Church of Latter Day
Postimpressionists.
Dik
Broker
few of these books in my hand BEFORE I bought them.
Since many of you seem to have a good deal of knowledge on this particular
subject, does anyone know which Van Gogh book is shown in the movie "Eyes
Wide Shut" while Nicole Kidman and her daughter are wrapping Christmas
gifts? (Please, no comments about how much the movie sucked; I've heard it
a thousand times.) It's right at 21 minutes and 52 seconds into the movie;
yes, I have the DVD. She is wrapping an absolutely beautiful Van Gogh book.
Every time I see that scene the book draws my eye to it immediately. Unless
Nicole Kidman has gorilla-sized hands, the book looks to be about 3-5 inches
thick inside of a slipcase. Any ideas? I've never seen a picture of this
book anywhere online.
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> Joe -
>
> Yes, the Sweetman book is by far the best. I confused it with the Callow
> book in my earlier post (I have both) and compared to it Callow's book is
a
> waste of time. Get the Sweetman, everyone.
>
> Also, if you can find it, Marc
> Tralbaut's massive tome is a real treat - a little outdated in some
details
> now (published in 1969), but well worth reading. It is a big heavy beast
> and may be very scarce now - I got mine 20 years ago when they were
> remaindered in big stacks everywhere. Wish I'd bought a few extra.
> --
> Dan
>
> 'The self, violent and constant, is the subject of all art.' - Barnett
> Newman http://www.danfoxart.com
Broker
Honestly, sometimes I think I need to go back to college. All those A's in
English seem far, far away sometimes.
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Tim Simmons
> Many people here probably know about this site; if not, it's an invaluable
> resource. It contains ALL the letters, and I think all the known paintings
> and drawings. You can read the letters online and view the paintings, also
> download them as databases. The URL is:
>
> http://www.vangoghgallery.com/
>
> --
> Dan
>
> 'The self, violent and constant, is the subject of all art.' - Barnett
> Newman http://www.danfoxart.com
>
Tim S.:
Whoever did that site did an excellent job.
Tim
Julie A
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>
>Do these look very flat (not 3D) or is it just my imagination?
Van Gogh had a collection of Japanese prints which he much admired, and so
they influenced his style of painting, i.e. in a 'flat' manner.
Julie
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Tim S.:
I read that later in the bio AFTER I posted. I did see a few paintings
where he added a Japanese touch to them. Also, he was influenced by
impressionists and that probably is part of the reason he used that style
later in life. But it seems he really liked to swirl his dabs of color. I
may simply be ignorant and all, but I still like the more realistic works
myself. Even Van Gogh did some that were a lot closer to realism than his
"famous" ones.
Tim
Peter H.M. Brooks
> I read that later in the bio AFTER I posted. I did see a few
paintings
> where he added a Japanese touch to them. Also, he was influenced by
> impressionists and that probably is part of the reason he used that
style
> later in life. But it seems he really liked to swirl his dabs of
color. I
> may simply be ignorant and all, but I still like the more realistic
works
> myself. Even Van Gogh did some that were a lot closer to realism than
his
> "famous" ones.
>
appears to miss the point that delicacy of touch is crucial to their
beauty.
--
Want of variety leads to satiety.