Surrealism & Dada
Kay
: There is a book titled "The Art Book",
published by Phaidon Press Limited,
: London 1994. In a section called "Glossary of
artistic movements" there is a
: reference to Dada that includes:
:
: "Dada was a violent reaction to the snobbery
and traditionalism of the art
: establishment: its members were ready to use
any means within their
: imagination to cause outrage amongst the
bourgeoisie. "
:
: I believe Alison parroted that statement in
true parrot fashion.
You are referring to a little bitty book. Alison,
nor most of us here would use that as a reference
source.
But -
(snip)
:
: Maybe my statement that Surrealism "grew" from
Dada was misleading. But my
: point was the clear influence of dada on the
surrealist movement.
: Surrealism was a movement that took artistic
freedom to new levels by
: combining the real and unreal into a super
reality hence the name
: surrealism. They to wanted to buck the status
quo, and "shock value" was
: highly embraced. They also stupefied the art
critics of the day by becoming
: extremely popular in spite of tactics like
shocking sexual imagery and
: ridicule of popular public figures. According
to "The Art Book" :
: "In the works of it's main theorists, the
writer Andre Breton, (who wrote
: the Surrealist Manifesto), its aim was to
"resolve the previously
: contradictory conditions of dream and reality."
:
I see Dada in much the same way as Fauvism, nice
for the artists to do at a specific point in time
and then they move on to other things. Most of
the Dada artists became Surrealists but the
movements are *extremely* different in my mind
except for the disconcerting placement of
objects. Dada was far more conceptual and very
important for today's artists who rely heavily on
the *concept* such as Beuys, Ann Hamilton, etc.
Surrealism evolved into an entirely different
direction.
Scarlett
(formerly Kay)
Alison A Raimes
<scarl...@theriver.com> writes
>You are referring to a little bitty book. Alison,
>nor most of us here would use that as a reference
>source.
Damn right, Scarlett ..... phew, I can call you by your real name at
last !
The *Art Book* is the sort of book you buy for the twelve year old niece
as a Xmas present. Its an excellent introduction to art and I highly
recommend it. But I can't believe it is being quoted as a source book by
someone who claims to know where the Surrealist movement developed out
of. If that is the depth of Sharon's research, then I, for one, will not
waste any more time responding to her. I suppose this is where art
school graduate benefit - they have so much exposure to books and
lectures on subjects that go beyond the docent's drivel. I am immensely
grateful that I had that exposure - and that I didn't waste a minute of
my time at art school.
Alison A Raimes
ali...@raimes.demon.co.uk
http://www.raimes.demon.co.uk
http://raimes.homestead.com (work in progress site)
Sharon Barcone
post about Dada resembled that "little book".