modernism vs postmodernism
mdeli
artwork.
Postmodernism: longer-winded excuses (Artspeak) for producing
incompetent artwork.
Mani DeLi
...no skill no art
A Skeptical View of Modern Art was updated Jan.16,99
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bean...@my-dejanews.com
hug...@interlog.com (mdeli) wrote:
> Modernism: long-winded excuses (Artspeak) for producing incompetent
> artwork.
>
> Postmodernism: longer-winded excuses (Artspeak) for producing
> incompetent artwork.
>
> Mani DeLi
> ...no skill no art
>
>
>
*chuckling* ...he never gets tired of it does he?
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So, in all seriousness, what was modernism with respect to industrial
design and architecture? An empty marketing scheme?
Glenn
hug...@interlog.com (mdeli) wrote:
>Modernism: long-winded excuses (Artspeak) for producing incompetent
>artwork.
>
>Postmodernism: longer-winded excuses (Artspeak) for producing
>incompetent artwork.
>
>Mani DeLi
>...no skill no art
>
Bryn_Ayers
grg...@earthlink.net (Glenn Geist) wrote:
> So, in all seriousness, what was modernism with respect to industrial
> design and architecture? An empty marketing scheme?
Modernism is a rough term to describe things that
happened in an arbitrarily defined time frame.
This century has been different than the last. Obvious.
However the whole of whatever has happened since
"whenever modernism" has been defined cannot easily be
defined as a simple or monolithic, or even coherent belief.
Post-Modernists have been trying to cohere what has been
arbitrarily defined time-frames with social theory. Really
Post-modernists are part of a part of philosophy that has
been trying to do this since before historians define modernism.
Post-Modernism as a time frame would be now, -if historians
decide in the future that this terminology is meaningfull even.
Most Post-Modernists think they are cohering the present with
social theory, many things they say they have discovered through
the dilligent work of PM seem obvious to me.
> Glenn
This is part of my magic crystal and the project E(enlightenment
conspiracy)
> hug...@interlog.com (mdeli) wrote:
> >Modernism: long-winded excuses (Artspeak) for producing incompetent
> >artwork.
> >Postmodernism: longer-winded excuses (Artspeak) for producing
> >incompetent artwork.
> >Mani DeLi
> >...no skill no art
> >A Skeptical View of Modern Art was updated Jan.16,99
> >check out my new book, new work, new comments at:.
> > http://www.interlog.com/~hugod/
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Glenn Geist
>In article <373f06d2...@news.earthlink.net>,
> grg...@earthlink.net (Glenn Geist) wrote:
>> So, in all seriousness, what was modernism with respect to industrial
>> design and architecture? An empty marketing scheme?
>
>Modernism is a rough term to describe things that
>happened in an arbitrarily defined time frame.
>
>This century has been different than the last. Obvious.
>
>However the whole of whatever has happened since
>"whenever modernism" has been defined cannot easily be
>defined as a simple or monolithic, or even coherent belief.
I quite agree, nor is it so easily dismissed by calling it fraudulent.
One of the tricks I see here so often is to lump things into
ill-fitting categories and then to attack the category. That so many
things are called Modernism weakens the argument that the many things
- from coffee pots to churches to chairs that have been changed by the
desires of a new century are the result of an academic cabal or a
council of the elders of New York criticism.
>
>Post-Modernists have been trying to cohere what has been
>arbitrarily defined time-frames with social theory. Really
>Post-modernists are part of a part of philosophy that has
>been trying to do this since before historians define modernism.
>Post-Modernism as a time frame would be now, -if historians
>decide in the future that this terminology is meaningfull even.
>Most Post-Modernists think they are cohering the present with
>social theory, many things they say they have discovered through
>the dilligent work of PM seem obvious to me.
>
>> Glenn
>
>This is part of my magic crystal and the project E(enlightenment
>conspiracy)
>
Ah- the magic crystal. I knew there was a conspiracy here somewhere.
Who cares about PoMo - what does the crystal tell you about where the
NASDAQ will close on Friday? <s>
Glenn
Brother Alphabet
On Sun, 16 May 1999 bean...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > Modernism: long-winded excuses (Artspeak) for producing incompetent
> > artwork.
> >
> > Postmodernism: longer-winded excuses (Artspeak) for producing
> > incompetent artwork.
> >
> *chuckling* ...he never gets tired of it does he?
Simple truths never cease to be useful, do they? The above should
by now be known as artistic rules of thumb. :)
Hutto
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Brother Alphabet
On Sun, 16 May 1999, Glenn Geist wrote:
> Oh great! Another gratuitously inflammitory post!
> So, in all seriousness, what was modernism with respect to industrial
> design and architecture? An empty marketing scheme?
Who gives a rat's? This is an art forum.
~Artist~
> Who gives a rat's? This is an art forum.
LOL
Mattison
FoAm Destroyer
grg...@earthlink.net (Glenn Geist) wrote:
> Bryn_Ayers <br...@wralaw.com> wrote:
> >This is part of my magic crystal and the project E(enlightenment
> >conspiracy)
> Ah- the magic crystal. I knew there was a conspiracy here somewhere.
> Who cares about PoMo - what does the crystal tell you about where the
> NASDAQ will close on Friday? <s>
It's not very clear but there is a 7 in there. Maybe
a 7 something something, or a something something 7.
Sell short for the next 3 months, go long this year.
And there is an O in there... It may mean purchase
options, or maybe Oracle, or America Online!
Ciao Babes!
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Glenn Geist
tipe like this and I could retire to the bowery with a bottle of
Ripple in a paper bag. <s>
Daddy Warbucks
John Haber
uploaded, on the Modern's show of art about the museum (showing art
about the museum (showing ...)).
It's as usual the top item in my What's New list, or direct from
http://www.haberarts.com/muse.htm
I'm still really dragging mentally since the injury. I've got notes
up the wazoo for a review of the Whitney's "American Century," some
posted here, and I can't get it together.
John