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Nikolaus Maack

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Aug 24, 2003, 2:01:04 PM8/24/03
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Gud E. Nuff

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Aug 24, 2003, 5:49:43 PM8/24/03
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In article <3F48FD60...@sympatico.ca>, nikm...@sympatico.ca says...
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>http://www.nikart.ca/painting/73.html
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>Comments appreciated.

I question that last remark.

In any event, on the web site you muse:

>Tight lipped and staring off into space,
>this man knows where the bodies are buried,
>but he's not telling you a thing.

With the oversized ears and eyes on this guy,
it's no wonder he knows so many secrets.


Nikolaus Maack

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Aug 24, 2003, 6:55:20 PM8/24/03
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Gud E. Nuff wrote:

>>Comments appreciated.
>
> I question that last remark.

Is that a comment? :)

> With the oversized ears and eyes on this guy,
> it's no wonder he knows so many secrets.

I like distortion. Do you think it works? Too much?

Nik
http://www.nikart.ca

keith o'connor

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Aug 24, 2003, 9:00:23 PM8/24/03
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Interesting: you are knitting the face together using ancient Greek linear
principals - curves repeat, invert etc. texture contrast between figure
ground - ground not fighting with figure.

It's coming Nik.

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take care: Keith

www.tinmangallery.com

The eye should not be lead where there is nothing to see.
Robert Henri - The Art Spirit
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DNALJM

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Aug 24, 2003, 10:04:18 PM8/24/03
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It's not my taste but I'm an academy snot-box with a two foot stick lodged
in my ass.


Jane


www.geocities.com/teslathemothgod
<---- figurative art and exobiology links

Dik F. Liu

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Aug 24, 2003, 10:40:30 PM8/24/03
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"keith o'connor" <ke...@tinmangallery.com> writes:

>you are knitting the face together using ancient Greek linear principals -
curves repeat, invert etc. texture contrast between figure ground - ground not
fighting with figure.<

>You may want to consider evaluating colour and texture as a positive /negative
duality. Colour decreases texture increases - texture increases colour
decreases.<

Hot air to stuff the turkey.

Dik

Nikolaus Maack

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Aug 25, 2003, 7:00:57 AM8/25/03
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DNALJM wrote:
> It's not my taste but I'm an academy snot-box with a two foot stick lodged
> in my ass.

Those sticks can be surgically removed.

I'm not certain if you were joking or baring your soul, but I went to
your website all the same:

http://www.geocities.com/teslathemothgod

Your stuff seems very formal and serious -- the oil paintings, that is.
It feels like there is a hysterical humour itching to break through, a
sort of repressed comedy. Maybe I'm imagining it.

The prints are wilder. I like the bat.

Nik
http://www.nikart.ca

Nikolaus Maack

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Aug 25, 2003, 7:05:32 AM8/25/03
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keith o'connor wrote:
> Interesting: you are knitting the face together using ancient Greek linear
> principals - curves repeat, invert etc. texture contrast between figure
> ground - ground not fighting with figure.

The real change in the last two paintings is, I don't look at the
photograph I'm working from so much, and play more on the paper. I've
always prefered using the face as a departure point, as opposed to as
something I'm striving to replicate.

I copied a Van Gogh self portrait a long time ago, and remembered how
the dashes of colour point in different directions, creating movement
that give the face a shape. That's something I'm working on.

Thanks for your thoughts, Keith. When I take over the world, you may
have a piece.

Nik
http://www.nikart.ca

Flobby Bischer

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Aug 25, 2003, 8:11:22 AM8/25/03
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badly drawn but of course you want that expressionist look

derivative of german expressionism (and very bad first year everwhere
painting by students in the US)

you got to get this figure/grounds stuff under control

the background right now is totally separated from the painting

resolve these issues and post again!!


Gud E. Nuff

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Aug 25, 2003, 8:35:37 AM8/25/03
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In article <3F494258...@sympatico.ca>, nikm...@sympatico.ca says...

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>Gud E. Nuff wrote:
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>>>Comments appreciated.
>>
>> I question that last remark.
>
>Is that a comment? :)

An observation.

>> With the oversized ears and eyes on this guy,
>> it's no wonder he knows so many secrets.
>
>I like distortion. Do you think it works? Too much?

Depends on whether you're aiming to be
another cartoonist, another Philip Guston, or
mount a 'Maack attack.'


Chris

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Aug 25, 2003, 9:56:04 AM8/25/03
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"DNALJM" <dna...@aol.com> wrote in message
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I've not had much time for RAF over the last few months, but I am glad I
dropped in to catch a look at your work. It's definitely among the best I've
seen on the net (particularly in here); it's very striking work without
being garish;delightfully subtle. The one I like in particular is the doodle
done at your former day job; some of your drawings would make lovely
etchings. Anyway, best of luck, and if you are putting anything up for sale
let me know. I'm pretty broke but can afford somethings occasionally!


Chris

keith o'connor

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Aug 25, 2003, 11:54:10 AM8/25/03
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figure ground in my opinion is ok - it acts as a neutral foil for the colour
texture face. You may want to consider evaluating colour and texture
integrally rather than differentially.
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take care: Keith

www.tinmangallery.com

The eye should not be lead where there is nothing to see.
Robert Henri - The Art Spirit

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DNALJM

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Aug 25, 2003, 4:20:35 PM8/25/03
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>t's definitely among the best I've
>seen on the net (particularly in here); it's very striking work without
>being garish;delightfully subtle.

! Thanks kindly.

>The one I like in particular is the doodle
>done at your former day job; some of your drawings would make lovely
>etchings.

I actually majored in printmaking before I dropped out of college. But
it is easier to paint when you don't have a press. I've been carving a woodcut
for a year now but put it aside. Anyway I love to draw so thanks for liking
them. Drawing in my book is the last thing I do before I go to sleep.

>Anyway, best of luck, and if you are putting anything up for sale
>let me know. I'm pretty broke but can afford somethings occasionally!

It sure would be nice to stop selling my blood and eating Ramen noodle
bricks for a week. I have a discrete price list on the bottom of my painting
page for what I have available and I tried to keep it reasonable as I could. I
will have photos up after September 5th of my new work if nothing at present
catches your eye. (I know, not much available ATM)

Here's a teaser: One is a small panel 17" X 12" and has myself teaching
geometry at the head of a classroom with a black skirt, nude from the waist up.

I also just finished a drawing of a still life, an open book on the moon
with a clay mask, icon of my former history teacher, styrofoam bird, and some
other stuff on an Oriental rug.

And finally I have a ghostly figure in a hallway, done with a limited
pallete. I have some finished sketches for it, I'll see where it goes.

Jane


www.geocities.com/teslathemothgod
<----- figurative art and exobiology links

keith o'connor

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Aug 25, 2003, 5:04:07 PM8/25/03
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The one titled 'me' is interesting. It shows strength conviction and most of
all it lacks the fear of coming to grips with form. The dark accents bring
the form foreword which is the reverse of what most painters do - the
technique is referred to as realised form. Your more finished drawings in my
opinion don't have the strength of this one. But most people will probably
prefer your more photographically finished drawings.
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take care: Keith

www.tinmangallery.com

The eye should not be lead where there is nothing to see.
Robert Henri - The Art Spirit

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Nikolaus Maack

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Aug 25, 2003, 5:08:27 PM8/25/03
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Flobby Bischer wrote:
> badly drawn but of course you want that expressionist look

Impressionist, expressionist, the feel of the thing but not the thing.

> derivative of german expressionism (and very bad first year everwhere
> painting by students in the US)

Alas, I never went to art school. Grade me by the standards of all
other outsiders.

> you got to get this figure/grounds stuff under control
> the background right now is totally separated from the painting

How strange that Keith said that this painting made good use of figure
and ground. Ah well.

> resolve these issues and post again!!

I can't promise the former, but you can count on the latter.

Thanks.

Nik
http://www.nikart.ca


Nikolaus Maack

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Aug 25, 2003, 5:10:09 PM8/25/03
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Gud E. Nuff wrote:
>>I like distortion. Do you think it works? Too much?
>
> Depends on whether you're aiming to be
> another cartoonist, another Philip Guston, or
> mount a 'Maack attack.'

If I'm forced to put it in words: what I want is something between
charicature and impressionism. But I want it to be MINE.

Nik
http://www.nikart.ca

Gud E.Tushus

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Aug 25, 2003, 6:38:36 PM8/25/03
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In article <3F4A7B31...@sympatico.ca>, nikm...@sympatico.ca says...

> But I want it to be MINE.

I think you've achieved that modicum of
whatever it is. But in order for your
work to be acceptable to a broad audience,
and I assume that's of interest to you,
you're going to have to push well beyond
what you're now doing. And no, please don't
ask for suggestions...

keith o'connor

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Aug 26, 2003, 2:47:09 PM8/26/03
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He knows that at this point in time and for the foreseeable future it can't
be both his and also have broad audience acceptance. Broad audience
acceptance needs definition. What percentage for example: of the total
population: part of the population: of a specific country - language,
culture, education, religion, etc.

I can understand why you don't want to provide suggestions as this is a
complex subject. For your information my tinmanGallery ezine published a
general art market survey and is available on my site.

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take care: Keith

www.tinmangallery.com

The eye should not be lead where there is nothing to see.
Robert Henri - The Art Spirit

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Gud E.Tushus

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Aug 26, 2003, 7:21:08 PM8/26/03
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In article <NWN2b.49743$_V.2...@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
ke...@tinmangallery.com says...

>it can't
>be both his and also have broad audience acceptance. Broad audience
>acceptance needs definition.

Well, you could read that as being an audience of 'broads'
or as an audience of typically 'broad Americans,' or
perhaps the 'broad minded' - which again begs definition...etc etc

>I can understand why you don't want to provide suggestions as this is a
>complex subject.

I don't mind discussing complex subjects with
someone who is open to suggestion, but
I've learned to save myself the effort
in this forum when it comes to making "certain"
kinds of suggestions. Even making sensible tried
and true ones is often a waste of time here.

keith o'connor

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Aug 26, 2003, 8:49:59 PM8/26/03
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Yes, the stupidity can be astounding but there are still people around who
are willing to enter into an honest dialogue. The question becomes are we
going to let the crazies destroy everything?

The United States for example is a first world developed nation and yet some
of its citizens are still trying to exorcise demons from children - every
nation has its proportion of them. Some of us live mentally in the twenty
first century and others live mentally in the first.

RAF is a microcosm of the world in which we live and we live in a world in
which the culture of fear is constantly expanding. We cannot give up for
there is no other game in town. All we can do is try to make a tiny part of
the world better before we die. The unfortunate fact is that the crazies
also think they are making a better world.

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take care: Keith

www.tinmangallery.com

The eye should not be lead where there is nothing to see.
Robert Henri - The Art Spirit
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Gud E.Tushus

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Aug 27, 2003, 9:27:15 AM8/27/03
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In article <XeT2b.279769$4UE.1...@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
ke...@tinmangallery.com says...

>citizens are still trying to exorcise demons from children

Care to explain what you're referring to?
What am I missing?

If I take your statement literally, then most children need
their demons exorcised at one time or another, IMO.
And the younger you "exorcise" the easier it is for
you, as a parent - again, IMO.

keith o'connor

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Aug 27, 2003, 4:53:33 PM8/27/03
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Your playing games - this one is over. If you don't know that you're playing
games then that's your problem.

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take care: Keith

www.tinmangallery.com

The eye should not be lead where there is nothing to see.
Robert Henri - The Art Spirit
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Gud E.Tushus

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Aug 27, 2003, 6:37:53 PM8/27/03
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In article <hT83b.65020$_V.5...@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>,
ke...@tinmangallery.com says...

>Your playing games - this one is over.

Playing games is not my bag - er, game.
It's an old golf term - "never up, never in."
In fact, it's what gamesmanship is all about.
Him with the most marbles wins. So you might
ask yourself, do you have all your marbles?
And no, Carrera isn't what I had in mind.
No agate there, I understand.

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