Marketing was Religious Art
Marilyn
said about the marketing of art could be said
about the marketing of anything. We all know
that coca-cola & pepsi is just coloured, sugared
flavoured soda water. The product is Nothing really.
It may be that you think that it is the art which
makes the artist and I agree with that. But out
there it is the artist who gives authority to the
work. Even for a small exhibition now, we have to
supply credentials. Even cafe managers want to see
a portfolio.
Ideally every artist who wants to market work,
should have an agent. Let them hustle for 10%
while the artist continues to work in his/her
ivory tower studio. Or keep a part time job going
to support the art work.
a bientot
Marilyn
Marilyn
>
> Marilyn wrote:
> : My comment if I may would be that what is being
> : said about the marketing of art could be said
> : about the marketing of anything. We all know
>
>
> : that coca-cola & pepsi is just coloured, sugared
> : flavoured soda water. The product is Nothing really.
>
> : It may be that you think that it is the art which
> : makes the artist and I agree with that. But out
>
> artist make the art.
While I realize that no one can function in a vacuum, I don't agree with you.
Of course, it depends on what you mean by community. If you mean support
group, well, that goes for life in general. Everyone needs it. If I relied
on my larger community I'd be painting watercolour seascapes for the rest of
my life, there would be no encouragement for experimentation. However, my
close friends, that's a different story.
>
> : there it is the artist who gives authority to the
> : work. Even for a small exhibition now, we have to
>
> In time it is the artists life that gives the authority to it all through
> proof comitment and staying power along with the art and the marketing
> of it and the community response to it.
I am speaking about the art market above. "Who did it" rules.
>
> The community makes the artist.
>
> : supply credentials. Even cafe
> managers want to see : a portfolio.
>
> Mostly because they do not want to scare the clientel.
No, because there are many artists out there walking the streets
looking for venues, and maybe because they are unsure of their own
judgement.
>
> : Ideally every artist who wants to market work,
> : should have an agent. Let them hustle for 10%
>
> You don not need an agent. Most of them are really full of it and you
> are your own best business manager. No one will care about your work
> more than you and you owe yourselves the business experiences. Agents
> are not in it for you. In time and experience you will find this out,
> they are out for cash.
>
> I would rather see artists hire their own staff and work with in the
> studio than work iwth agents.
>
> : while the artist continues to
> work in his/her : ivory tower studio. Or keep a part time job going
> : to support the art work.
>
> I think you really do not know all that much about how the art world
> works what the fringes are or where it is going nor do agents currently.
> That is why the artist is their own best agent.
I would really like to know where the art world is. Have you seen it?
Do people live there? I resent time away from my work. There are some agents
people can trust.
> If you can curt all that by yourslef then you might have the potential to
> have the staying power and hopefully you get recognized for your work too.
And don't forget the random benefits of luck. Lots of it to you.
> Mattison Fitzgerald
> Aritst
> http://www.rhinodev.com/M
> link
Mattison
: My comment if I may would be that what is being
: said about the marketing of art could be said
: about the marketing of anything. We all know
Yes, business is business.
: that coca-cola & pepsi is just coloured, sugared
: flavoured soda water. The product is Nothing really.
: It may be that you think that it is the art which
: makes the artist and I agree with that. But out
The community makes the artist. That has been the experience and the
artist make the art.
: there it is the artist who gives authority to the
: work. Even for a small exhibition now, we have to
In time it is the artists life that gives the authority to it all through
proof comitment and staying power along with the art and the marketing
of it and the community response to it.
The community makes the artist.
: supply credentials. Even cafe
managers want to see : a portfolio.
Mostly because they do not want to scare the clientel.
: Ideally every artist who wants to market work,
: should have an agent. Let them hustle for 10%
You don not need an agent. Most of them are really full of it and you
are your own best business manager. No one will care about your work
more than you and you owe yourselves the business experiences. Agents
are not in it for you. In time and experience you will find this out,
they are out for cash.
I would rather see artists hire their own staff and work with in the
studio than work iwth agents.
: while the artist continues to
work in his/her : ivory tower studio. Or keep a part time job going
: to support the art work.
I think you really do not know all that much about how the art world
works what the fringes are or where it is going nor do agents currently.
That is why the artist is their own best agent.
If you can curt all that by yourslef then you might have the potential to
have the staying power and hopefully you get recognized for your work too.
Mattison Fitzgerald
Aritst
http://www.rhinodev.com/M
link
Mattison
: While I realize that no one can function in a vacuum, I don't agree with you.
: Of course, it depends on what you mean by community. If you mean support
: group, well, that goes for life in general. Everyone needs it. If I relied
: on my larger community I'd be painting watercolour seascapes for the rest of
: my life, there would be no encouragement for experimentation. However, my
: close friends, that's a different story.
Community means everyone on the planet.
: I would really like to know where the art world is. Have you seen it?
: Do people live there? I resent time away from my work. There are some agents
: people can trust.
Not many agents are worth the time or money you can do better on your own.
You will never make it if you don't know and do the buisiness
yourslef...cold slap!
That is why there are so many has beens and bs'r in the art world. I
don't even waste my time when in 3 questions I can find out the bs.
Mattison